n00bking


Dominating Posts: 110 Joined: 27 Mar 2008 3228 gold

Hood of Defiance BS!

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:41 am

Ok, HoD is a good item for spell resistance throughout the game, however i have a major problem with it and hence that is why i hardly ever buy it. And that is because you lose 5 armor

Stats on items:

1x RoH: 5hp regen p/s; Or 2x RoR: 4hp regen p/s
1x HoIW: 3hp regen p/s; 5 armor
1x Planewalkers: 15% spell reduction

HoD: 8hp regen p/s, 30% spell reduction

So you sacrifice 5 armor and gain 15% spell reduction(and 1hp regen if you bought 2x RoR). I just dont believe thats a fair trade as 5 armor is significant throughout the game.

All other recipe items get better or some aspects of the items stay the same, so why the nerf with the armor? i just dont believe its fair or worth it to buy this item.

Dominator maintains armor, gives damage and lifesteal. Battefury increase damage, gives cleave, and regen. etc, etc...

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omelette


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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:46 am

i see it as

u remove the + 5 armor, for the + 15% magic resistance

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D3STROYER


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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:47 am

I agree i don't get HoD as much anymore because of the armor that goes missing, i think they should add the armor into the final product and this item will be gotten much more and more valuable
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n00bking


Dominating Posts: 110 Joined: 27 Mar 2008 3228 gold

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:51 am

I understand that, thats the point of the post. I think its BS. I dont agree it should be taken away...

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BloodyBengt


Dominating Posts: 161 Joined: 02 Aug 2007 5954 gold

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:43 am

You dont only get 15% spell resistance.
You also get + 1 hp regen and 3 extra inventory slots.

Hood is supposed to be a situational item, while facing a team of tough spell casters (example if you face Lina, Lion, Davion, Mirana, Magnus, all of which have spells). Its not supposed to make you tankyish...

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sfsy1


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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:04 am

The 15% increase is crucial because 2 hoods or cloack never stack. Its good agains zues, ogre, lina etc because they hardly depend on their normal att for damage. Its worth in some situations only so u cant compare 15% magic reduction with 5 amor.
"So you sacrifice 5 armor and gain 15% spell reduction(and 1hp regen if you bought 2x RoR). I just dont believe thats a fair trade as 5 armor is significant throughout the game. "
They serve different purposes.
Magic reduction actually doesnt become insignificant in late games, its the spell that lose the effectiveness.
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Tokemus


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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:09 am

Meh, the good thing is that it fuses automatically instead of having to buy a recipe.
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rambol


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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:13 am

I don't mind losing the 5 armor. It's a pretty nice item, spell reduction is important in the caster-owned early-mid game. Not to mention the fast hp regen which I think is one of the highest in the game, next to HoT and Bloodstone. If you wanted armor, get a Platemail.
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:16 am

too much effort to make unless you are a hero that synergises with it
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rllian


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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:23 am

what matters to me is the hp regen and spell reduction
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nemanja13


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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:16 am

Why Hod doesn't give +100 dmg? crappy item..

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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:35 pm

why would you complain with losing 5 armor? hood is for heroes with low HP, and high armor or low HP's and tanks

my advice, if you dont want it, dont get it. we dont care. there's 3 similar threads like this one
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:29 pm

IMO, theres more advantages than that -5 armor . .
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Teacuptim


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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:43 pm

I think it is worth it, for losing the 5 armor you get +15% magic resistance, and the helms regen as well. I don't have a problem with it and I think if it was changed to have the armor it would be overpowered. If the armor had to be in the item, it should have a recipe scroll cost as extra.

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dohyun99


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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:28 pm

lol, let me ask you one question:

Q: Why would someone get a HoD?

A: To weaken spells!

let me ask you another question lol:

Q: Would you need armor against spellcasters?

A: No! Armor reduces physical damage, not magical damage.

Moral: If you're going to get a HoD in the first place, you're probably getting it to lower the damage you recieve from spells. If you wanted to lower the damage you recieve from normal hits, get something like a Blade Mail.
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