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metallic_ghost

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Radiance..does it's reputation preceed it's actual uses?

Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:57 am

Ok, here goes another item that I have a problem with. Radiance. Personally I don't have this item down as part of a build for any hero. I don't see it's uses and it has no real synergy with any hero, and I will state my reasons. Firstly here are the main reasons why people go googoo gaga over this item.
1.immolation 35/sec is meant to be totally imba.
2.helps in farming (what the...?)
3.really cheap for a level 4 item (5325 gold)
4.Someone add more?

And here are my reasons why it is not.
1.immolation is meant to be good synergy with Weaver, Razor, Dirge, Bs, image heroes, spectre, Omni, Treant. These are the heroes that people think are good for them.
We can eliminate slow attacking heroes, purely because if you think you can are benefitting from the immolation during chases, and spend over 5 THOUSAND gold coins just so you can get 35 dmg per sec immolation. That's just wierd. With fast attacking heroes, don't you think you should be concentrating on getting items that actually increase your damage and aspd? (I will elaborate later on)
AND for image heroes..definitely a nono, because it gives you pure 60 damage, and those damage will NOT go into your image's damage...only stats will. and so what if your images adds to your aoe of immolation..it's plain stupidity to get radiance just because of that reason.
2. This is the real part I don't get. How does this item help in farming? Is it because of the immolation? Sure it may weaken the creeps when you are farming, but the fact still stands, you will have to last hit the creep to actually get the gold.
For eg. There's one enemy creep, and a bunch of your creeps are attacking it(normal creep wave situation), and you stand nearby, letting the immolation do the damage. who do you THINK will get the gold? the creeps or you? 98% of the time, the creeps will.
Or maybe you think the damage helps in farming? I won't even bother trying to explain that to you..60 straight damage, and no other benefit such as ias or cleave or whatnot..you work it out.
3. Real cheap for a level 4 item but it doesn't give you the benefits of other expensive items. 8% evasion is kind of negligeable, although not ignoring it completely, 60 damage is pathetic, considering other items such as mkb (5400 gold, almost the same as your Radiance), gives you 75 damage, 15% ias and 30% chance to do 100 DMG!! Butterfly might only give 30 dmg to non-agi and 60 dmg to agi but it 30% ias and 30% to evade is too good to be missed.
And the fact still stands that Radiance is the hardest level 4 item to farm for (excluding Rapier).

It's damage used to be 70, but that has since been nerfed (not updated in the item section) to 60 (since .50b I think)and the benefits are just too minimal to be of any use as part of a real build. maybe as a luxury or something, but I stil recommend other alternatives..
There were other points I was going to address but I forgot due to my gf coming over so I'll edit when I can remember. Lol this has been waiting to be submitted for over an hour now sigh..gf>dota haha

EDIT: if you get radiance just for the immolation, seriously, the benefits aren't that great

Last edited by metallic_ghost on Thu May 15, 2008 5:52 am; edited 1 time in total