How to stop neutral creeping/stop ganks(updated with images)

How to stop neutral creeping/stop ganks(updated with images)

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:48 pm

The answer is the ever ignored observer ward (210gold)

1.First how to stop neutral creeping...like the ever lovable naix.

Put the ward directly on the site of the ancients or any other neutral creep spawn point and creeps will not spawn there for the remainder of the wards existence. Webs also work the same way or anything that can keep an eye on the spawning points. Since creeps can't spawn if there is no Fog of War.

2. Since we're on the issue of wards I would just like to say proper ward placement can make ganks harder to pull off.

The first two screenshots are the most basic observer placement

The 3 here are just one of many places to put observer wards depending on the situations.
These screenshots are all single player and are only here to show you were to place them because my internet connection sucks^^

How to position Necrolic's Revenants (Thanks for Steve-O for reminding me^^)

Now first the role of the necrolic.

In Higher level games, is he a hero killer or a pusher?

Sadly his role in such games is more on reconnaissance. (Since it saves buying observer wards without end)

First the basic "you can't cross my side of the river without me noticing you" defensive position of your revenants.

Here's a literally bad sketch of the river and revenant placement:

x-xRxRx-xRxRx-x
x-xxxxx-xxxxx-x
x---o-----o---x
x-xxxxx-xxxxx-x
x-xRxRx-xRxRx-x
x-xxxxx-xxxxx-x

R=Revenant (Yes I know he has 7 revenants, you can place the additional where ever you think is necessary)
o= Rune
x= borderline/cliffs
-= Spaces

As you can hopefully see you can pretty much see the whole river. Just place the revenant high above the trees so it would be less likely for the enemy to destroy the little scamps.

For offensive like when it's time to push.

You can use 4 or five of your revenants as your fighting buddies while the rest are put on places were the enemy may most likely gank.

If you can always place them above the trees but you can also just place them anywhere on that location if there is not much cover, since you can pretty much notice the red dots that are killing your pets. Giving you the heads up as to where they are hiding.

And since the topic is now a sticky (yehey) I will update more about the necrolic and nerubian weaver as well, when I have the time of coarse^^
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Last edited by Nova on Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:26 am; edited 8 times in total

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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:00 pm

This is one of the reasons why I changed my Chen build from Army-type to Battle-support mage.
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:18 am

or somebody could get roofie or nerubian weaver on your team....free observer wards for everyone although i'd prefer roofie coz he is much more useful in teamplay
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:06 pm

Creep camps can also be stopped by Webs, although I think I've read something about it changed recently. Worth a try though.

Higher levels of games, wards are very important, especially for that rune early on. Perhaps when I get my pc back I'd post some good spots, but generally, the cliffs near rune spots are good-everyday spots to place wards.
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:55 am

Necrolics' revenants can be used as what they call Map Hack.. Place them on several parts of the map so you can avoid ganks or gbs... ~.~
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:38 am

Thread stickied, a lot of people can benifit from this.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:11 pm

Wow my topic is now a sticky COOL!!!

I've updated the topic being a sticky and all^^

Thanks to Steve-O for reminding me about Necrolic and his revenants
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:30 pm

nice strat.. just today some opposing team used naix and i recalled all your strat.. thx to it naix became a feeder

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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:52 am

wow map hack that sounds cheating but what the heck i'll give it a try!
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:53 am

Hey how can my topics be a "STICKY"?
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:28 pm

I hate necrolic if he use revenant

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:06 am

I do believe a techie could use a mine as a ward (or mines hehehe) at the neutral spawns.

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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:08 pm

It's true, in the latest versions of dota, heheh.. Also nerub weaver.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:55 am

Rooftrellen/Broodmother too can use this.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:51 am

uhm.. maybe delayed sumthing and add sum gang bang detector.. uhn.. trent's 1st skill will do..

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