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Tinker with Manta Style???

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:20 pm

Hello eveybody,I have question about tinker.Why many dota players make a Manta Style for it?Instead of Guinsoo or Linken?I think Linken is much better than Manta (because I don't know why manta is so popular),use Rearm to block most spells without waiting for one minute.

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Garfield

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:24 am

Maybe because they use Diffusal Blade's Purge charges to do their combo. Then when the charges are out, they form Manta. It's a nice escape mechanism too.

But personally, I rush Skadi for Tinker.
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onigakure

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:43 am

tinker with manta is used in my place for pushing purposes...

i too have tried this but not until i have guinsoo and linkens...
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mando

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:44 am

i think manta is useless.....use the money to get yourself a dagon is a better idea

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:02 am

hmmm... mana burn??
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:10 am

Hmm...what's for? One AoE spell can decide which is the real one, moreover Tinker is weak. It's better to buy Guinsoo and Arcane Ring then play at the back of the team.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:22 am

Why Manta Style, this is Bad, right???

You have a low aspd too take full effect of Feedback.

You have low HP, making your Illusions fairly weak.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:23 am

i think manta is fine with tinker,, man...
but i dont get manta on him,,man...
just buy euls/guinsoo and linken.. much better,,man..
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Tokemus

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:02 pm

manta is used so he can rearm in piece
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:45 pm

There is a variant of tinker gaming that relies heavily on controlling multiple lanes at once. Manta Style is for that purpose.
Scenario:
Lane 1 - manta style, march, rearm, teleport to other lane.
lane 2, march, rearm, tele to lane 3.
lane 3(mana dwindling) - march, Manta, rearm, tele to base.
base - rearm, tele back to lane. repeat.
something like that puts pressure on defense, and would help keep enemy heroes apart, for easy ambushing.
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tstiong

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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:19 am

Tinker with Manta makes him one of the best pusher in the game due to his rearm ability. Just like what quickbrownfox said, just do the 'Manta -> March -> Rearm' combo; you can eliminate the entire creep wave without the help of your creep.

With BoT (Boots of Travel), you can even perform this combo at multiple lanes; means pushing multiple lanes simultaniously.

But personally, i prefer to get at least a soul booster or a bloodstone first before i get Manta on Tinker as this combo requires way too much mana.

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caspian

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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:22 am

If u can access dota-allstars, there is a premium guide by s.o called VIROT, i think, on tinker with manta-style. He explains very carefully every item he gets, plus his gameplay. U should b able 2 understand y manta-style on tinker is good.

with BoT, his mana is practically unlimited. Mana is not really an issue for him.

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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:25 am

Could be used to escape but i prefer arcane ring dagon and linken..

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honya

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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:33 am

Nah, Manta is good on Tinker. Manta + March = pushing force. Linken's blocks you one spell then you need to rearm, with Manta, you'd be safe all the time since you've got clones beside you, offering both damage and protection. And since you farm much with Manta and Travel, next items to get would be stat items such as Skadi and Linkens, by that time Tinker is kinda hard too kill since he can fly around the map, have high damage/health, not to mention his clones are pretty much kinda effective as the original one since you got mostly stat items.
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