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hellinside__

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Bottle x Arcane

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:43 pm

Which one do you prefer, and why?
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mangoman

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:02 am

well i only use the above on specific heroes, so non are like a staple item i get with every1. no idea really, both hav their uses, maybe bottle caus it is really cheap and comes with more uses than jst a mana regen.
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naracloud

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:25 am

i've seen someone get 2 bottles, i thought it was so stupid but suprisingly he did really well. with yurnero he got 7 kills with two bottles in 15 minutes, and during the whole time both sides were calling him noob for getting two bottles. its not suggested to get two bottles, but that was hilarious

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:32 am

It really depends on the hero...

Sometines I get bottle and arcane on 1 hero,when playing with pudge/mirana.

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Mr. Naix Guy

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:10 am

No, using 2 bottles is not a noob thing, specially if you are using techies. You can mass those remote mines/mines early in the game when your opponents don't believe you can. Believe me its a sure double or triple kill early. Just buy a flying courier to refill it.

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:50 am

well yeah it depends on the hero but me i will pick bottle why?
because it gives mana and hp to heal n=but arcane for mana only but has a give mana but i mostly prefer bottle though i am not using it sometimes nut still very good item especially with chasing someone you will have mana and you can spell on him again
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caspian

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:56 am

Both are powerful in different ways.

MYM|Maelk has shown how powerful bottle can be if you routinely check the timer and abuse the runes.

On the other hand, mass arcanes plus mass heal (mekansm + heal spells) is absolutely imbalanced. Which is why mekansm and arcane are favourite items on Chen the Holy Knight.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:34 pm

i would think that for heroes that do support for the team.. get arcane... you guys are forgetting one aspect! arcane heals mana for all nearby allied units..not only yourself.. that can be amazing for a team player.. then again i'll go for bottle when using pudge since he really needs the hp healling too...
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Artimon

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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:49 pm

i get 2 bottles with luna, cause its so cheap and she can farm it in 2 seconds! Plus this allows u to stay in lane with ur pitiful STR gain and mana for like 10 beams and an ulti!
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DandyChat

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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:21 pm

Bottle is quite good for its HP aspect...
and arcane is nice for an hero with a low mana pool ! don't forget that rcan give bonus in mana !

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killmore

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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:58 pm

Absolutely Bottle for none -np games and Arcane for -np mode.

I always play in PUBS, so i seldom use Bottles. Only if I get Windwalkers.
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Cookie Monster

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:41 am

I think cm's global aura will be seen more and arcane less, therefore bottle ftw.
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DemonEclipse

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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:08 am

I prefer bottle more because of the hp healing.
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afro_scum

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:19 am

Well, it isnt noob if u buy two bottle for pudge. I did so cos i was farming heroes all the way. For pub games den its ok. U dun have to go back to the fountain. With occasional runes, u can really do major damage. By the way, two bottles are cheaper den an arcane ring.
It all depends on wut kinda heroes. for pudge, bottle is the way to go. Its not like u can spam your hook which has a LOOOONG cooldown.

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