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moogle-taxi


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how to make dazzle tank?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:34 pm

i played a 5v5 game on a Lan arem server.
and i got dazzle who i have never played before, nobody needed him so i baught my items and went to my lane, using pison touch and healing damage enemy's i managed to get a double kill on the first creep wave, about 5 mins later i then got another double il in a different lane.

i had 4k gold after that, so i went to the fountain for the first time, decided i may aswell go for raidance as i was hitting pathetic damage with nromal attack, after that i seemed to tank????


my question is was this a good build to end with??

1.raidance
2.boots of travel
assault curias.
4. guinso


but at level 16 i started to become less lielkl;y to get kills against barathrum and pudge... then viper staretd pushing emencly, ony person i could take was lina.

dazzle seems to lose potential during later game in my opinion.

so how can you make dazzle alos an emence pusher, but also an extreme late gamer.
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cdjelamade


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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:43 pm

dazzle as a tank...hmmm... never heard that before...
i would think he would do well with eye of skadi for the stats, health and mana
also i think shivas would do good for the -ias of the enemies plus the intel boost
melevy would also be good for the ias, the damage, and the soul burn

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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:44 pm

dazzle's role in Dota is to start a gank, make a tank, heal allies and to buff them with your ult.
my build personally is
BoT
Desolator
Necronomicon 3
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if i manage to farm that much i usually end up with
guinsoo
orchid
shiva

your build is good, its your build i cannot complain but thier are far better items then getting radience on dazzle. as for answering your question about making him tank try this build

Treads(str)
Necronomicon 3
shiva
skadi

late game
guinsoo
bkb or linkin
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:50 pm

im making him a tank of out interest, not to use everryday eveery typical player build son that char. its like getting 2 bashers on jakaral... i dont want too!!!!!


and @cdjelamade
yea, skadi for health, but shivva's is more of int stuns and slows and mass intel and mana regen.

1.assault curuias
2.travel's
3.?
4.?
5.?
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cdjelamade


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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:01 pm

@moogle-taxi
imagin shiva's with poison touch, they run up to you, you weave, cast poison, cast shivas, cast guinsoo's and attack,how is that not a total synergy for dazz?
my item build whould be
1.shiva's guard
2.travel's
3.skadi
4.malev's
5.guinsoo's
6.linken's

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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:02 pm

i agree with your build apart from one fact

you allready have a slow with eitehr skadi or shiva's

so skadi is better idea than shiva becasue its cheaper and you can rush it.

1.assauly curias
2.boots of travel
3.skadi
4.
5.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:24 pm

moogle-taxi wrote:
i agree with your build apart from one fact

you allready have a slow with eitehr skadi or shiva's

so skadi is better idea than shiva becasue its cheaper and you can rush it.

1.assauly curias
2.boots of travel
3.skadi
4.
5.
6. super chicken wtfpwndbbq~!

Whaaa??? Skadi is by no means cheper than shiva...
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:15 am

Dazzle has many different roles, and when I play dazzle I have 3 different ways of playing him depending on the opposition heroes and what our team needs.

I usually build Boots (I usually get STR boots for HP boost)
Then it's really Dependant on the situation.

1. Desolater for DPS boost of others / or you could go Skadi for the slow effect.
2. Mekansm for health benefits
3. Guinsoo Sheepstick for HEX

Some people prefer to buy Dagon, but I don't recommend it.
Remember, Dazzle is only TRULY good when he is with another hero because Dazzle isn't very good at surviving alone for a long time (he's too fragile!)

Good Luck ~ 1

BTW I'm not so sure about the Radiance. I think someone else should have it.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:11 am

Tsk , . . Dazzle isn't built to be a Tanker LOL

his a well rounded support type of a hero, . .allied heroes pretty much benefit from dazzles skill, . .

agree in above post bout the item build,
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thatlazyguy


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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:24 am

yea dazzle shouldnt be a tanker, but if he had to be, just get
BoT
vanguard
linken's
shiva's
assault
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:41 am

If you have no tank in your team, you could make a good tank

-PT
-HoT
-Skadi

If you keep weave on yourself and keep PTing people, (mainly draw attaention like a tank would like to) you will be the target of ganks, absorbing damage. If you die, your shallow grave will bring you back from the dead so don't worry. After level 3 keep SG on your tank and yourself. If you need more items

-Manta(image creation tankifies you)
-Shiva (this way you can affort to have weave cast on your carry)
-Orchid (improves damaging and an annoying silence, may attract more attention towards you)
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:58 am

zzz calculation of my build from post 3
hp 3181
mp 3296
damage 122-140 + 152
armour 8 + 22.7

my build with INT items to make him tank.
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:32 am

Make EoS, Cuirass, etc to be tanker, which i do not recommended. or desolator, cristalyst, etc to be a fighter.
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:56 am

my aim is to make tank becasue he can spam healing spells, and has poison touch.

assault curias is for armor breakage, basicly i wont have mroe damage they will take mroe damage instead.
sheepstick and mecka for health and INT.
desolator for 1v1 ownaining.


orchid? awsome extra damage and yay for silence?
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tend


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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:08 am

ok seriously do u want DPS, tank OR hybrid?
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