Spirit breaker and bashers

Spirit breaker and bashers

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:20 pm

what do you guys think about bashers on SB?
his greater bash is already great now add that.
i think bashers would be sick
what bout u guys?

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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:24 pm

Bashers would be stupid. Why?Cause when any player sees a hero which has a natural bash skill PLUS 2 bashers he will say: SHIT! No matter how noob you are, you just have to right click on the enemy hero and then just see him getting permabashed and get the kill.
Get a sange yasha or something instead of basher..If you want to increase the bash chance get attack speed but not bashers cause theres no point of playing.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:30 pm

Better have Hyperstone --> Cuirass.

It's better to have greater bash + more chance of disable because of his 3rd skill rather than have 15% on bashing with a high price.

But it's okay for him to have it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:43 pm

y'know what? greater bash is the only passive bash skill that "stacks" with cranium basher's bash.... simply because the greater bash procs on attack animation but the cranium basher's bash procs on the strike itself.... honestly it is not a bad item for him.... but SnY or lifesteal would be a much better choice.... for bash.... get some attack speed.... if you already have the attack speed.... and have nothing else to spend on.... and really wish to bash non-stop.... then by all means get it
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:11 pm

if u think about it, bashers give hp and str too...
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:23 am

Attack-speed is what you really need to make more bashes. Bash stacks diminishingly so the succeeding bashers you get are less effective.

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:52 pm

i direct you to a threat called 'bashers are noobism'...

my bara build,

travels,S&A,curias,mask of madness and sentry wards.
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:52 pm

if you HAVE to.. and theres no way we can stop you from getting bashers..
atleast do me a favour and only get 1. everytime someone buys 2 bashers on troll void, slardar or bara 1 iranian dies laughing....

imo twin bashers only on magina

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:34 pm

wtf have any of you actually tried basher on sb? kesgaea is correct, greaterbash =/= real bash. is programmed differently and also is suspended when the bash occurs so you cannot proc greater bash until after the previous bash is over. sb only have 17% chance which is hideously low compared to other bash heroes so it is okay, not a choice item.

sum it up is 30 damage 3str and 15% extra bash for sb ( stacks properly) 3k gold

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:36 pm

exactly why i said get only 1 basher if you must

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:39 pm

Bashes are really stupid in a non-1v1 game.

My build for him:

PT
Bottle
Hom
MoM
Armlet
Heart
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:50 pm

the best build IMO:
Power treads
Mask of Madness
1 basher (yes just one)
Hyperstone
S&Y
and if the game drags turn the hyperstone to cuirass.

SB is not a tank (yes he is strength i know), so dont put hearts plz! you dont have to buy a heart for every str hero(very expensive and not worth it for him)! attack speed and movement speed is the key to bara

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:51 pm

@ darkness:

Why not 2 bashers for troll?
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:29 pm

@ahmady9

the answer is simple.... each successive basher bought gives an individual bash chance.... for the cranium basher it is 15% for melee.... you see.... though you might say they stack.... in fact they do.... but not additively.... meaning its not 15% + 15% = 30%.... no no no.... the game engine works in such a way that.... on attack.... this happens....

Own passive bash ---yes---> bash occurs
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no
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First cranium basher ---yes---> bash occurs
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no
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Second cranium basher ---yes---> bash occurs
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no
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AND SO ON....

in short.... the effect is individual.... if one fails the next one is trialled.... in simple words.... they stack diminishingly.... so getting more bashers is less effective compared to getting attack speed as more attacks = more chance to bash.... rather than hoping that you'll bash every hit.... why not bash every 3 hits.... but do 3 hits every second? not only does it increase your chance to perma-stun.... it increases your total DPS too.... thats why as I've mentioned.... for bashing properties.... get attack speed instead.... but if you already have it.... and have REALLY nothing else to get and wish to get it just for fun.... why not?

Then again.... 2 bashers are a total waste of 6k gold which can be spent at much better items.... and 2 bashers only give you a stun chance of roughly 25% i think.... (can't remember exactly) so again i mention.... please only get 1.... but for me i normally don't even get it
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:02 am

Hero that can bash don need a basher,they need damage n aspd,like MkB,radiance,buriza..a average player will buy basher,but a pro doesn't

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