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darthpika11


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Perfect Damage

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:02 am

Which heroes deal Perfect Damage(I know about Glaives of Wisdom), and what exactly does P.Dam do? Is it affected by armor or spell resistance? Lastly, is it amplified by Chen's damage boost ability, Penitence?
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kaizer9


Hmmm...
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:24 am

perfect damage...

is that same as chaos damage

chaos damage: ignores defence of the target
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:40 am

yeah... like viper's skill viperstrike... and shadow strike
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kaizer9


Hmmm...
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:51 am

best example

vol'jins death ward
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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:02 am

Perfect damage?

*cough*

Test of Faith
Gravekeeper's Cloak
Last Will
Glaives of Wisdom
Impetus
Arcane Orb
Rupture


Just saying Chaos Damage IS NOT THE SAME as perfect damage.

Chaos Damage just says that armor TYPE is irrelevant. But armor QUANTITY is still counted.
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darthpika11


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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:34 am

That last sentence is confusing...you were talking about Chaos Damage? Perfect still deals full regardless?
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:53 am

Umm... Okay, it's like this. There are different types of armor (Fortified, Heavy, Hero, Unarmoed etc.) and different types of weapons (Piercing, Hero, Chaos, Siege etc.). Well, depending on the type of weapon (of the attacker) and the type of armor (of the unit damaged), the damage can be higher or lower. For example, in melee game, Siege deals 200% damage to Fortified (as far as I remember... I may be wrong), while Hero armor receives LESS damage from Fortified.

So if an unit with 0 (quantity) Fortified (type) armor would be attacked by an unit with Siege (type) weapon, and would the damage would normally be 50, the unit would receive 100 damage, because Fortified receives double damage from Siege. Chaos ignores all armor types, and deals damage unaffected by the armor TYPE.

On the other hand, armor VALUE (quantity) is something else. When you move your mouse over the armor of an unit, you will see that it says "damage reduced by x%", where x is a number (for example 25%). Well, that is the damage REDUCTION quantity, that applies to ALL DAMAGE TYPES.

Let's go back to the Siege-Fortified example. If an unit would throw a 50 damage projectile, and the fortified unit would have 25% reduction, the final damage would 50*(1-0.25(reduction))*2(bonus)=100*0.75=75 DAMAGE.

FULL DAMAGE, on the other hand, ingores everything (from armor to damage type), so practically, if the projectile is meant to deal 50 damage, it will deal 50 damage regardless the armor type or amount. That's kinda it!

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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:03 pm

@ Pika
Yes. The lasts sentence is about chaos damage. Edited it to be more clear.
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donatboy


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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:13 pm

culling blade is very perfect damage, no reductions whatsoever
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:15 pm

Not really.

It's just an ordinary attack with a special trigger that removes buffs and deals HUMONGOUS damage.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:18 pm

still deals perfect damage i think

my friend told me that if u combine warlock's fatal bonds and axe's culling blade and kill one unit with the fatal bond status other units gets killed not tried yet
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:23 pm

Unpossible.

There's a cap now [I think] for Fatal Bonds damage. Just like Gravekeeper's Cloak.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:25 pm

ow ok, so even if aphotic is on culling will go through?
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:38 pm

It removes buffs.

Aphotoic shield will be destroyed, remaining damage will pass through.

If borrowed time is one, remember Culling Blade removes buffs.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:44 pm

wait, dispersion isnt a buff , what will happen if axe culliings mercurial what will happen to dispersion damage?

laser deals exact damage ithink
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