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Raxxar

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:55 pm

He doesn't farm for his items... He kills for them... That's why he's got Track, which gives him extra gold every time he kills a hero...
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moogle-taxi

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:20 pm

its still difficult to farm next to gondar, constant harrasing at very very low cooldowns and constnaly backstabbing you...

if dirge uses his own aura at level gondar will be hurt if he comes in range of throwing a shreiken at you and i he chases he will slow get hit more and more.

im saying dirge becasue he IS my favorite hero. and i can get radiance in 10 mins using my zombies.
considering that it would still hurt him with radiance and my aura.thats around 100-450 damage per second depending on his level.
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Bishounen2k8

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:57 pm

Hmm,. .

so now you answered your own post, .

beri gud!

i guess you now know what to do, .

./gg
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genso19

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:27 am

@moogle

100-450 damage per second?!?

radiance deals 35, so you will need Gondar to have 6500 hp to deal 100 damage per second, and that's almost impossible (lol, 5-6 HoT's?!? for gondar?!?)

@guyz

Dirge would have hard time, since WW + Shuriken hurts him alot in early game, even Heartstopper aura could not easily hurt him, and constant trips to fountain means no radiance for dirge
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:01 am

Sladar can easily take Gondar...you can amplify so WW is no problem. And Nuking wise you guys are even. And you can permabash... so you win XD. Plus you have more hp.
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a_tumiwa

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:21 am

moogle-taxi wrote:

im saying dirge becasue he IS my favorite hero. and i can get radiance in 10 mins using my zombies.
considering that it would still hurt him with radiance and my aura.thats around 100-450 damage per second depending on his level.

it is imposibble to get radiance in 10 mins with only jungle without kill enemy heroes, if you can do that, please show me the replay

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moogle-taxi

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:35 am

miss type with the DpS thats completly wrong =s

but its not impossible.... any time you go into jungle, send a single zombie at them, by the time he dies another will have spawned...

you can easily get 5k gold within 10 mins... then i go for threads,valds and whatever else i want.

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sfsy1

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:36 pm

Try balanar, 5/6/7/8 sec silence.
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Sofa_King_Good

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:09 pm

I think Centaur Warchief can take him, just tank out his nukes and fight with his thorns and his two nukes

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Amplirage

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:15 pm

Umm..Gondar has two nukes? And he has thorns?
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genso19

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:21 pm

@amplirage

he means, thorns = return of centaur

2 nukes = hoofstomp + Double Edge

Nukes of gondar is his WW + Toss combo
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Amplirage

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:28 pm

Thanks genso for clarifying that..if you read his comment again, it is really confusing as one second you read it he is referring to gondar and another he's referring to centaur..

And I don't think WW is considered THAT much of a nuke, although 120 pure damage is rather painful to some..
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Counter_Force[X]

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:32 pm

Amplirage wrote:
Thanks genso for clarifying that..if you read his comment again, it is really confusing as one second you read it he is referring to gondar and another he's referring to centaur..

And I don't think WW is considered THAT much of a nuke, although 120 pure damage is rather painful to some..

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i reckon doom and naga
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:23 pm

sfsy1 wrote:
Try balanar, 5/6/7/8 sec silence.

Balanar? Early game you will get destroyed.
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moogle-taxi

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:16 pm

Flodian wrote:

sfsy1 wrote:
Try balanar, 5/6/7/8 sec silence.

Balanar? Early game you will get destroyed.

the problem with balanar is he will get annoying repetetive to fight gondar, but then he has to deal with every other charactor when they gank you. and how does balanar silence again? it slows at nighttime not silence

ohh crippling fear, so thats why he dominates... eed to be nerfed lmao?
naw balanar is actually really easy to counter if your below level 14... just nuke and harras to death
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