Some of my observations on Lina the Slayer - including 6.52

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:40 pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:42 pm

nerf lina for god's sake.>.<Unless icefrog buff "lousier" heroes.

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:55 pm

Woooo! Too excited for the DPS Lina. I'll try her!!
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:21 pm

New attack animation doesn't really mean Lina got a buff on her DPS capabilities, but giving her a better attack animation means easier farming for better items, plus her 3rd skill that will compensate with the new attack animation.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:24 pm

regardless of ANYTHING being said in this forum, i believe it is still balanced enough to where it doesnt overbalance anything in the normal dota games, or well there wouldve been some sort of an immediate patch.

while, her spells can devastate creep waves, we have to consider several things:
1. the cooldowns of light strike array and dragon slave
2. the mana costs of LSA and DS
3. the vulnerability of lina when waiting for those cooldowns (aka vs ganks and stuff)
4. active casting as well as being able to target all creeps in that wave (stupid necromancer...) accurately
5. stronger creeps, whether from the time passed or from rax.

her laguna blade is also still unfavorable in situations like:

1. str heroes
2. magic resistant heroes (magina, pudge)
3. heroes with HoD
4. uses up 1 slot for her aghanims in order to get the POTENTIAL 1250 dmg

while her normal attacks are faster (via ultimate) and stronger (via int), it is incomparable to several other factors:

1. doesnt get cleave
2. str and agi gain is lower than most

but the MAIN factor in all of this is....

regardless of ANYTHING else, each hero has his/her purpose in the dota world

while lina may be a better creep demolisher and hero nuker, she fails at support, tank, and any other role.

i mean lanaya's passive allows her to descimate creep waves in 2 hits (assuming you have the right items and the creeps havent "clustered" but are still running down their predetermined lines). should we have a bad feeeling about that? no.

if a hero is good at something, be glad the developers are making their WEAKNESSES less of a weakness (i.e, changing lina's str gain to 2, or something like that)

something to consider, if they had lina's visuals like this since the beginnings of her hero creation, would there be a "feeling" about her "imba", NO, because it wouldve become standard. what if her visuals were actually WORSE than most other heroes, wouldnt this change be BETTER for dota as a whole?

just my thoughts on this, wanted to present the other side
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:26 pm

@unholy
thats the sacrifice if you want old wave cd
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:03 am

You are too right I see alot of SLayers in pro games.

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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:14 am

I was playing lina today, like 2 mnatches... OMG IO so pwned with her...
tryed bloodstone, and my hp regen went crazy, tarrasque is shit before bloodstone ^^
[fo` those who don`t know, bloodstone has charges, charges that increase if you kill heroes, every hero killed gives you+2 hp/sec, so killin 20 times gives you 40 hp/sec and so on]
nad aghanim on akasha is, indeed,bad investment
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:12 am

Well, it makes farming so much easier, but she won't be exactly overpowered.
BTW i probably never will play QOP ever again, because i stunk with her before, and now she just got worse. This means that i will never own with her now.....
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:26 am

In my opinion guys, it really doesn't matter.

SKILL STILL DEPENDS on denying and killing creeps. If that Lina user is a pro in denying and last hitting, then good. but if he/she is not quite good in denying and killing, then its still not IMBA.

Kardel can still outshine her, despite the new animation.
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:55 am

Compared Kardel with Lina?

adds 220 range . .

*sigh*

easy farming though . . .
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:35 am

Ugh, what a load of sh1t. The fact that some heroes have excellent attack animations and some have really horrible ones (Drow, Lich, etc). Is a design flaw in dota as far as I'm concerned.

Every hero should have good attack animations, and the fact that he improved Lina's is good. Now do the rest of the heroes and it'll be great.

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