You can not target friendly units with this spell?

You can not target friendly units with this spell?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:30 pm

I think they should get rid of the inability to target friendly units regardless of the spell. In all reality why would you be unable to target anything you want with any spell you want??

There are plenty of situations where targeting a friendly hero could be in the best interests of the team. For example:

DENY
1. You are Zues and your friend is about to die to Stealth Assassin. You want to deny him but your attack does like 50 damage and he has 100 hp. You have plenty of mana but you cant target him with Lightning Bolt.

KILL
2. You are Medusa(Full HP). You and your teammate, Centaur(Full HP), are chasing Lycanthrope (100 HP). Lycant is outside your casting range for Chain Lightning and the distance between Centaur and Lycanthrope is growing. If you could cast Chain Lightning on Centaur the next jump would catch Lycanthrope and kill him.

SURVIVE
3. You are Pugna(30 HP). You just fled from battle successfully but there is a Zues on the enemy team and you know he is going to ult any second. Centaur is on your team with full HP standing next to you. If you could life drain him for a few seconds you would live. (Also could do it to a creep if friendly units were target able)

PREVENT
4. You are Skeleton King soloing Rosh. Your teammate Magina Blinks in to try to get the last hit on Rosh for the gold and probably steal your Aegis. You would like to Hellfire Blast Magina to prevent the steal but you cant.

It really just makes sense that you be able to cast these spells (and others) on your friendly heroes because that is the nature of the game. What are your thoughts?

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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:34 pm

if that happens ,shit noobsocks will ruin every game since they're noob dittos
NO
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:35 pm

Dont play with noobs then.

I understand your concern about the game play and have thoughts along the same line. But noobs ruin the game as is and can attack you if they want when you are low on hp... right? The question is whether or not a hero "could" or "should" be able to cast his spells on who ever he wants.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:40 pm

you REALLY arent looking on the real infliction of this
lets say you play zeus, you KS-ed so many kills and this doom shits you so much
what happens?
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:42 pm

Not really sure what "doom shits you so much" means,
Please speak more clearly.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:47 pm

ugh okay i'll make a more prominent example

techies suicide
tree's overgrowth
zues static field and wrath
akasha's scream and wave
magnus' polarity
slithice's song

now if you dont get what i mean, i'll give more
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:56 pm

i agree with CF[X]

it's like if Leshrac on your team can hurt his own allies with AoE moves. Unless you're talking about just targetting spells. But with the whole Chain Lightning thing, this could happen:

You use Chain Lightning on Centaur to hit the running Banehallow but when you cast Chain on Centaur it bounces back to you and all the allies near you instead and kills one of your allies who would've lived even though he had 30 hp.

OR

Ally Lich casts Chain Frost and your whole team dies instead
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:59 pm

No Man there is a reason you cant do that man. Why do you think about this stuff.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:04 pm

Imagine Death Ward hahaha
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:06 pm

this thread as far as dead
the starter is speechless i believe
i shall suggest you lock or let this be a debate when everyone wakes up
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:09 pm

No. You are missing my point. Area affect spells should be designed to hurt enemies not friendly because you can not decided which one to effect or not to, that goes also with chain lightning and all the others you listed. The only spells I’m talking about are those where you select which hero with a click (i.e. the first blast of chain lightning [secondary blasts only hitting enemy units])

You are right about those other spells and how you would not want them to affect your allies and I agree with you. That is not the point of this thread. However, thank you for you input.

P.S. I cant respond instantly, Im at work.
P.S.S I am going to make a list on monday of the spells Im talking about and the ones Im not and why there should be a diference.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:11 pm

then a debate it will be
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:58 pm

if we where to able to target our team mates we would allways have eachother being killed constantly.
like a team killer such as naix at the fountain could atatck hs own team mates a while ago.

every time you played a game someboyd would pick naix and kill his whole team for fun.. then ruin the game.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:06 pm

He's talking about spells only NOT attacks. I think it's a good idea but it'll require a lot more triggers and there could be a lot of bugs resulting from it. There's also the possibility that you mean to stun an enemy and you misclick on an ally. This would suck if you landed a multicast with Ogre.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:49 pm

In public people would teamkill you all the time..
Would not be fun at all
But the game would be more realistic!
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