You can not target friendly units with this spell?

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:33 pm

I agree there needs to be some work on the list. The blind and enfeeble and similar spells that have no apparent positive benefit should maybe be removed. I do believe that any damage producing spell should remain for denial purposes (stuns included)
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Updated List of Spells

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:47 pm

Heroes to remain unchanged:
Syllabear, Raigor Stonehoof, Rooftrellen, Ezalor, Furion, Tiny, Squee and Spleen, Rexxar, Jakiro, Mirana Nightshade, Raijin, Puck, Krobelus, Magnus, Banehallow, Dark Terror, Slardar, Anub’seran, Nervermore, Crixalis, Abaddon, Mercurial, Demnok Lannik, Meepo, Azgalor, Dirge, Ish-kafel, Kael, Slithice, Rigwarl

Which spells to have ally clickable or affect an ally?
Y=Yes
IA=Yes, if ally is attacked
UC=Unchanged
Shendelzare Silkwood
Magic Missile (Y); Terror (UC); Swap (UC)
Zeus
Chain (Y, secondary blasts will only hit enemies); Lightning Bolt (Y); Static Field (UC); Thurndergod’s Wrath (UC)
Aiushtha
Impetus (Y); Enchant (UC); Nature’s Attendants (Y); Untouchable (Yes, if ally attacks you)
Morphling
Waveform (UC); Adaptive Strike (Y); Replicate (UC)
Rylai Crestfall
Frost Nova (Y, splash damage No); Frostbite (Y); Freezing Field (UC)
Sven
Storm Bolt (Y); Great Cleave (UC)
Rikimaru
Blink Strike (UC, still no damage); Smoke Screen (UC); Backstab (IA)
Lina Inverse
Dragon Slave (UC); Light Strike Array (UC); Ultimate (IA); Laguna Blade (Y)
Nortrom
Curse of the Silent (UC); Glaives of Wisdom (Y); Last Word (UC); Gloal Silence (UC)
Yurnero
Blade Fury (UC); Healing Ward (UC); Blade Dance (IA); Omnislash (Yes, first attack will effect ally, after that Yurnero will either jump to an enemy if there are any present, or the spell ends if there are none, Yurnero will not jump from enemy to friendly units, only first strike can be targeted on ally)
Darchrow
Malefice (Y); Coversion (UC); Midnight Pulse (UC); Black Hole (UC)
Ulfsaar
Earthshock (UC); Overpoers (IA); Fury Swipes (IA); Enrage (IA)
Aggron Stonebreaker
Fireblast (Y); Ignite (UC); Bloodlust (UC); Multi Cast (Y)
Boush
Laser (Y); Heat Seeking Missile (UC); March of the Machines (UC)
Azwraith
Spirit Lance (Y)
Chen
Penitence (Y); Test of Faith (UC)
Razzil Darkbrew
Acid Spray (UC); Unstable Concoction (Y)
Huskar
Inner Vitality (UC); Burning Spear (Y); Life Break (Y)
Lanaya
Refraction (IA); Meld (IA); Psi Blades (UC); Psionic Trap (UC)
Luna Moonfang
Lucent Beam (Y); Moon Glave (IA, will bounce from ally to enemy not visa versa); Lunar Blessing (IA); Eclipse (UC)
Kardel Sharpeye
Scatter Shot (UC); Headshot (IA); Take Aim (IA); Assassinate (Y)
Jah’rakal
Berserker Rage (IA); Blind (UC); Fervor (UC); Rampage (UC)
Rhasta
Forked Lightning (Y, only the targeted ally will be hit, not others standing nearby); Voodoo (Y); Hero Schackles (Y); Mass Serpent Ward (UC)
Mangix
Thunder Clap (UC); Drunken Haze (Y); Drunken Brawler (IA)
Bradwarden
Hoof Stomp (UC); Double Edge (Y); Return (Y, if allies attack you)
Gondar
Shuriken Toss (Y); Jinada (IA); Windwalk (IA); Track (UC)
Knight Davion
Breath Fire (UC); Dragon Tail (Y)
Magina
Mana Break (UC); Spell Shield (Y, if ally attacks with spell); Mana Void (Y)
Traxex
Frost Arrows (UC); Silence (UC); Trueshot Aura (IA); Marksmanship (IA)
Purist Thunderwrath
Purification (Y, if enemy is healed other nearby enemies will take damage); Repel (UC); Degen Aura (UC); Guardian Angel (UC)
Terrorblade
Soul Steal (Y, allied heroes/creeps); Sunder (UC)
Leshrac
Split Earth (UC); Diabolic Edict (UC); Lightning Storm (Y, can target ally for first bolt others will only hit enemies); Pulse Nova (UC)
Kel’Thuzad
Frost Nova (Y, splash does not affect allies); Frost Armor (UC); Chain Frost (Y, can target ally for first blast, rest of the chain will only hit enemies)
Visage
Grave Chill (Y)
Lion
Voodoo (UC); Imapale (UC); Mana Drain (Y); Finger of Death (Y)
Lesale Deathbringer
Shadow Strike (Y); Poison Sting (IA); Plague Ward (UC); Poison Nova (UC)
Nessaj
Blink Strike (UC); Chaos Bolt(Y); Critical Strike (IA)
Black Arachnia
Spawn Spiderlings (Y); Spin Web (UC); Incapacitating Bite (IA); Insatiable Hunger (IA)
Mortred
Stifling Dagger (Y); Blink Strike (UC); Coup de Grace (IA)
Medusa
Split Shot (UC); Chain Lightning (Y, secondary blasts will only hit enemies); Purge (UC)
Balanar
Void (Y); Crippling Fear (UC)
King Leoric
Storm Bolt (Y); Critical Strike (IA)
Lucifer
LVL Death (Y); Doom (UC)
Anub’arak
Impale (UC); Mana Burn (Y); Spiked Carapace (Y, if attacked by ally); Vendetta (Y)
Akasha
Shadow Strike (Y); Scream of Pain (UC); Sonic Wave (UC)
Bone Clinkz
Searing Arrows (Y)
Viper
Poison Attack (Y); Corrosive Skin (IA); Viper Strike (Y)
Razor
Chain (Y, secondary blasts will only hit enemies); Storm Seeker (UC)
Niax
Feast (IA); Open Wounds (UC)
Pugna
Nether Blast (UC); Decrepify (UC); Nether Ward (UC); Life Drain (Y, allied heroes/creeps)
Leviathan
Gush (Y); Anchor Smash (UC); Ravage (UC)
Atropos
Enfeeble (Y); Brain Sap (Y, allied heroes/creeps); Nightmare (UC); Fiends’s Grip (Y)
Rotund’jere
Death Pulse (UC); Reaper’s Scythe (Y)
Pudge
Meat Hook (UC); Rot (UC); Dismember (Y)
Barathrum
Charge of Darkness (Y); Greater Bash (IA); Nether Strike (Y)
Mogul Khan
Berserkers Call (UC); Battle Hunger (UC); Counter Helix (UC); Culling Blade (Y)
Strygwyr
Bloodrage (UC); Blood Bath (Y); Strygwyr’s Thirst (UC); Rupture (Y)
Vol’Jin
Paralyzing Casks (Y, first hit can be targeted at ally all further hits will only strike enemy units); Maledict (UC); Death Ward (UC)
Harbinger
Arcane Orb (Y); Astral Imprisonment (UC); Sanity’s Eclipse (UC)
Dazzle
Poison Touch (Y); Weave (UC); Shadow Wave (UC); Shallow Grave (Y, you can put it on the enemy, I wouldn’t though, unless a very low health enemy was about to deny them, then go for it ; p)
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:49 pm

We have to make a survey and tell icefrog!
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:52 pm

Deal.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:06 pm

I dont see the point on huskars ultii or mortred's dagger....it damages yes but if you miss calculate wouldnt you end up making your ally slower so the enemy can come and last hit?
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:32 pm

True.. I am still trying to decide on those and the poison effects. They would need an experts eye to be effective and would be prone to error.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:09 pm

I like the assassinate idea lol. Fleeing ally who's a good distance away and about to be killed when...BAM!!! DENIED!
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:56 am

The game was made how it is for a reason. This just won't work.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:05 am

i spotted something

you say that Nature’s Attendants (Y)
but it already is ...
and if you say Y to every one then you heal the enemy instead how much dmg you deal
Enchantress UC all skills
its a waste if you can do that
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:19 am

Well,
I Flame way to much,
Im sure on Orge magi that i flammed would surly multi cast me to death.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:46 am

I would also like some of the spells mentioned above to work on allies. It would also be a weird thing that you can infest your allies with naix with somewhat of a twist, like, you can only infest him when his health is below 100 and if his health grows over 100 and you burst, you die not him.

Also i read on a page about atropos' sleep, that's great to cast on allies, immagine Lich just caught you and your ally pants down jungling and bang, ultimate. Sleep your ally or yourself and the ultimate ends there. Or, witch doctor banged someone and the last tick coming is 1000 dmg and the ally has 200 hp left. Sleep will fix it.

What i would REALLY like is you to be able to cast the new cyclone on ANYONE including yourself. That would be perfect to help escaping lots of ultimates like crix lich or escaping incoming magic damage like poison or maledict ticks.

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:49 am

LoLed at Ganksta . . .

nice idea but i prefer the things the way they are right now . . .

just as what Shimrra said

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:30 am

If u could deny your allies so easily with spells .. one would hardly get any kills especially if ur a carry hero and u go into a fight 1 v 4 and target one there are 3 others who jus have to use their nukes to deny him .. that wud ruin the game ...
Players would concentrate more on denying allies rather than killing enemies.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:26 pm

I dont think it would ruin the game.. but if you do thats ok. I have posted a poll in the heroes section: "New Mode For For DOTA... -FS Free Spell Use
Check it out.. give me your thoughts.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:13 pm

maybe a new mode would do. but nobody would use it. All it takes is a simple damn argument and wtf, zeus would keep chaining you repeatedly. There's a reason why the game was made this way. plus, your reasons on setting this mode just doesn't seem good enough.
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