A suggestion for Aganims
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No 65% [ 40 ]
Yes 34% [ 21 ]
I cant see a reason NOT to add this in. If some1 wants to spend 5.5k on guin for mana regen, int, and sheep go ahead. If some1 wants to spend somewhere near that on bloodstone, go ahead, Same with the old scepter. Its not like its going to force some1 to make the game imba
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NO.
Aghanim's is better the new way because it can give stats that you want in the building stage.
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the old aghis was for intel heroes alone. why give another item when there is already bloodstone, shiva, and guinsoo too choose from?!?
if you want to get huge mana go guinsoo and bloodstone/soulbooster and youd probably get more but for more gold..
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It seems like no one is reading the first post
I have to say, a bloodstone may fit the role of the old aghanims. Massive mana regen from bloodstone I think overcompensates the massive intelligence from aghanims. You might think the damage is irreplacable but int heroes dependant on aghanims don't get it for attack damage.
So yeah, your idea would be nice if it was not for bloodstone. Just give it a try.
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should be item section. anyway, simple answer. Nope. New aghanims works on nearly 3x heroes that old aghanims use to cover. 30 int means only good on a few heroes. or the int goes to waste very very quickly.
I like it the way it is now simple because it is:
cheaper
works on more heroes
adds to all stats.
Besides, I get aghanims for the ulti boost and not for its stats
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Go back and play 6.59D
Get 2 on obsidian and check his damage, now tell me that kind of pure damage isn't imba?
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Airbox wrote:
Go back and play 6.59D
Get 2 on obsidian and check his damage, now tell me that kind of pure damage isn't imba?
Go back and play 6.59D
Get 2 on obsidian and check his damage, now tell me that kind of pure damage isn't imba?
Instead you can have guinsoo + orchid. Not the same amount of mana boost, but this is compensated by the significant increase in attack speed, which also contributes to your dps, as well as the fact that you now have two potent disables.
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hell no...
i would like aghanim that completely changes some heroes ultimate... not boost them... complete change, whole new skill replacing old one!!!
topic: hell no...
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the new aghanims is superior and more balanced than the old one in every case. fullstop.
there are soooooo many items that increase int or mana regen, why you want to add another one? the old one didnt even give mana regen, except the int. and for what reason? to improve destroyer? one hero, who is better wth orchid and sheepstick anyways?
EVERY hero, that benefited from old scepter, benefits more from the new one, without loosing balancing issues.
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Well, i loved Aghanim's when i used it on INT heroes cause its was bassicly a replacement for Bloodstone, but now i love it even more.
Why? Cause now EVERY hero can use Aghanim's, not just the INT ones.
Aghanim+Heart on Pudge is a must for me when playing him.
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BloodyBengt wrote:
I voted no simply because I was annoyed by one of the arguments for why old aghanims should be reintroduced. DotA is balanced based on item effects and power, not based upon whether the appearance of a certain recipe item is coherent with the appearance of its components. Whenever I hear someone present an argument based upon such reasoning around item appearance, I shiver.
Besides, as someone already suggested, there already is a hp and mana item suitable for ints: the blood stone (which also, like you suggested, has secondary effects). I believe there was a reason for why aghanims was changed, and I strongly doubt that the change will be reversed.
I voted no simply because I was annoyed by one of the arguments for why old aghanims should be reintroduced. DotA is balanced based on item effects and power, not based upon whether the appearance of a certain recipe item is coherent with the appearance of its components. Whenever I hear someone present an argument based upon such reasoning around item appearance, I shiver.
Besides, as someone already suggested, there already is a hp and mana item suitable for ints: the blood stone (which also, like you suggested, has secondary effects). I believe there was a reason for why aghanims was changed, and I strongly doubt that the change will be reversed.
the change was made so that anghanims will fit with heros like nightstalker,bara,venge,pudge,etc....
old anghanims isnt imba.
but i would like to see another item for soul booster though.
but as for old anghanims coming back, i dont think it will happen.
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Asking for a move to ITEMS, but if you ask for my 2 cents worth of opinion then I shall admit I would like to see Bloodstone do a little more than just mana regen but ya: Its the best alternative to old aghanim's as far as stats go.
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the old aghanims wasnt even really good, i didnt think that anybody wants its back.
just zeus, lina, lion and destroyer normally got it, and even they not as first core item. (most of the time)
in 99% of the cases sheepstick was better anyways
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(Moved to items as requested by the way).
Old Aghanim's gave a total of 890 mana, so all comments about it being a great mana item are true. I agree that the new one is more balanced than the old one though and more variable.
I would seriously like SB's Sceptre buff to be less though. 75 to 20 cooldown still annoys me ... I don't even see it that much, its just the concept of something that unbalanced ...
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I like the new Aghanims. Though some heroes like Rhasta and Obsidian would benefit better from the old one.
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