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dota1734

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explain it to me plz...

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:46 am

i used range hero and make skadi and diffusal but only skadi works...mana burn won't,,, everybody said that skadi is not orb effect when used by range... Confused

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mv20vm

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:49 am

Which hero did you use? What other items you have built in your inventory?
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dota1734

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hei

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:58 am

i used voljin...juz skadi and diffusal.. does skadi works with another orb effect when used by range??

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mv20vm

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:02 am

They should work coz skadi is not an orb when used by range hero. How did you figure out that mana burn didn't work? It's 18 mana burnt per attack is like unnoticeable.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:41 am

it's because you can't have more than 1 debuff per attack(maim, frost, feedback, etc..)

a debuff is an extra effect to an attack.

so, even if EoS isn't an orb effect for ranged heroes, it won't work with diffusal blade.
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Millennium

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:07 am

Actually,if target has Mana,Feedback works,otherwise EoS slows.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:38 pm

Well.Target will hard have 0 mana,so feedback will activate and skadi won't work....

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:09 pm

They don't stack, but lifesteal does XD
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Millennium

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:21 pm

Eustace2 wrote:
Well.Target will hard have 0 mana,so feedback will activate and skadi won't work....

Exactly.Even if he or she have 0 mana because of your attacks,there will be a 1-2 second duration for your next attack and target's mana will be replenished (no matter how much mana replenished,it is still mana and that means skadi won't work again)
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:36 pm

U can't have 2 improved attack. Eg. EoS and maim stack but when maim released, no EoS effect, work the same with Chain lihtning and anyother orb effect that aren't released every attack (geminite attack,etc). So diffusal won't work. What about life steal? Why it stacks with EoS on range? Cause life steal affects u while EoS affects the enemy. Hope it helps.
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dota1734

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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:09 am

yah...thnx for the explanation... so only skadi with lifesteal works in range..simultaneously..
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vin007

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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:54 am

Feedback and Frost?

It's like this:-
Till the hero ur hitting haves mana it will feed back.
And once his mana is zero, it will frost
That means frost is useless, as every hero in dota keeps regening mana every second, so skadi will get no chance to freeze. RIGHT?

That is y Skaadi doesn't work with Feedback.

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bibo1990

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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:37 am

read the orb effects charts its not that hard
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:49 am

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