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Strategies:Moon Wrath posted by Lord_of_Draenor on 2007-06-11Lunatic Eclipse - Moon Rider Guide posted by quickbrownfox on 2007-03-31 Almost-Battle-Type Luna posted by yukino_silvermaine on 2006-08-24 |
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luna should not buy eye of skadi just because it useless for him, i will change with pet sword
good call on not buying eye. almost required(bad choice of word but o well) for luna is helm of dominator: you gain hp off of each bounce, even tho its ruduced it really helps. pls dont get sceptre
Ohhh!!! And please put 2 vanguards for HP!!!
get an aghanim and a blink dagger. great combo when creeps are around. blink past creeps next to hero, ulti, and if he's not dead yet use lucent beam again.
GIVE HER A RADIANCE AND A AGHANIM MAYBE A LOTHAR EDGE AND GG
To me, a useless hero
if eclipse is use wisely it can go triple kill..... flamingicecubes your wrong dont call luna a useless hero cuz she's one of my favorite..... you dont stand a chance.....
she have little hp
the 4th Moon Glaive deal with only 0.6*0.6*0.6=3.6*0.6=21.8% dmg. I think it is too low
the 5th sucks more
blink dagger, skadi, refresher... skadi works on de first target
i hate her so much! she cant use orbs cos it screws her up! and i dont know what the orbs are so i might be wastin money! shes also a close range fighter which makes her so easily chased!
Does vladmirs work on luna?
@ avcat HELLO is Luna about the fourth and fifth glaives' damage?? Wow.
Sceptre owns the world with Luna. Loads better ultimate. lvl3, two extra beams, increases cap by one beam, decreases cooldown by 10, mana cost by 25 or so.
Hmmmm. I don't even play Luna much. Shes a good hero. I wanna be the first to try using a refresher with her ult
luna is too crazy, she can do a 1 v 3 easy, just get scepter, , scepter is 12 beams and able to hit the same target 5 times, so thats 1500 damage each person until the 3rd one gets 600 dmg . but then you use lucent beam at it so its = 900 dmg
so tis 1500, 1500 , 900, CRAZYYYYY and maybe a dagon ? to finsih it
attack range too short for my liking. might as well be melee.
luna sucks with buriza i think stop bouncing when doing crit
lothar might be usefull SS then use your lothar edge, can summon the lucent while in windwalk
she is so picky in terms of item... "harsh"
get blink dagger and radiance for her please!!!
blink in and ulti and watch the enemy curse you to his death
in short, luna ROCKS!!
luna is a great hero if u can use her wisely and if u will buy a right items for her
is is an annoyin hero for me, she cant use orbs, she has next to no range and even though shes an agility hero, she has no skills which require agility.
true...she's more like an agi-mage lol...
Hi! Im brand new to this site and have enjoyd the comments. For the last 2 weeks i have chose this hero and have figured out a very good strategy. It ownd 12-0 in a 5v5 with the other team compsing of Naxia, Sniper, Elemental, Medusa and Pugna.
My item build is:
1-Secepter
2-BoT
3-Lothars
4-Linken's Sphere
5-Refresher Orb
I never got a 6th item because I never went back. I just had a bunch of clarity potions and went around killing people and laughing.
Lothars in, get right next to them pop Ulti, lucent beam and chase them!! Insta kill! With Secepter it allows ulti to hit the target 5 times. If they arent dead after Eclips wears off then ur cooldown on ur Lucent beam is done and Finish him off with that. dagger of escape can also come in handy if ur chasing them towards a tower or in a base.
my luna items...
powerthreads
lothars
Butterfly
EoS(it works on her)
Hyperstone
Linken Sphere
OPTIONAL ITEM:
Buriza
HoT
Or
Just check the strats
dudez
i think tht luna is a kewl farmer
with moon glaive and lunar blessing she's a tough hero......isnt she Flamingicecubes
Hmm..i like this hero but is her ulti channeling? as in when u cast it and then move, will the beams stop?
nope. just move. the ulti wont stop.
mhina!!!!!1
Just Stun her and = Ulti Gone
good hero but low HP...
Will the bounce attack still work with mjollnir or maelstorm equuipped?
just dont ulti when creeps r around
For Luna:
Powers Treads
The Butterfly
Secepter
Lothar's edge
Monkey King Bar
maelstorm
you want Sceptre, Radience, and BOT. But Id do it in this order: soul booster-->radience-->aggys/BOT
I would suggest doing either Lothars or Bottle.
I prefer the bottle cuz it forces you to check those runes (or just get wards) more often. Half the time its either haste or invisi which are both amazing runes for Luna. And if your smart, the illusion has many options.
I have a question though, is the diffusal blade good for her? Cuz purge seems like it be really useful on luna
Truly awesome hero-killer when they're alone. Eclipseh! Lunar Blessing is sort of okay late-game. Otherwise, Moon Glaive makes Luna an awesome farmer and a good hero-killer. (should said hero be trying to escape, but is still in range to chain in with Glaive.)
maelstorm is an orb effect... or is that mjollnir? question: does anyone know what happens when u do buy orb items for luna?
for all those who have asked about luna's ult being channeling/stopping it: once the eclipse is activated it cannot be stopped. it is not channeling. it works exactly like juggernauts omnislash as it will randomly target units within the aoe.
@lupeman if you buy certain orbs for luna it says right on the screen in big letters that orb effects will cause luna's attack to "malfunction". this means that luna will be unable to attack.
@lupeman: i once played luna in an older version with sange and yasha.luna did NO attacks any more!! 0 damage!!
WHAT THE **** DID THEY JUST DO TO ECLIPSE??? ITS NOT GOOD ANYMORE ITS LOUSY!!!
really good job but not scadi lol!just make a soul busterits 5 lucent beams in a target not only 4 and its 12 at all
This is a great hero.The damage aura makes it a hunter.You first have to make some life and some mana.Then you make DAMAGE,moooore damage and linkes Sphere,buriza,boots of travel to be fast and then >:))
Does her Lunar Blessing stack with the Drow Ranger's Trueshot Aura?
when you put eye of skadi on this hero does her glaives frost all the targets when it bounces??
im goin to piss off some people, create a new account, choose luna in APEM and buy her all orb items, feed loads then leave :P. howeva all orb items r expensive :|
This hero sucks.I used eclipes on Lucifer with full hp and single handedly targeted him(with aganim)and still only half of lucifers hp has been damaged.Pathetic.
a fairly good hero. late game she tends to be useless. just today in 5 on 5 i played against her and she had 15 kills and 0 deaths at lvl 15. By lvl 25 her godlike status is gone and even with manta style she seems less effective
luna is great man
luna is great if u know how to use her. if you just kill with out killing all the heros and just a cople then you get crushed late game.
MoM
BoT
Butterfly
Lothars
RoB
Crit
all you need
Build:
Blink
Treads
Hood of Defiance
Butterfly
Afghams
Radience
I usually start off with ror and some tangos, get point booster and blink asap
went 9-0 in a 40 min game with this build
luna is a greet hero man i love to use her
@ Team Havok
MoM is a great item... If you don't plan to do any damage. According to some people here, Luna doesn't attack when you give her orb items
and im assumin crit means buriza, u only score a critical on the first glaive, the rest only get a percentage of the first hit.
I just dislike her attack range, so bad 330. might as well become a melee hero cos all other rangers can harass u whereas u cant harass them unless u move even closer, meanin u will take more hits.
Does refreshers orb malfunction her attack? and what exactly is orb effect?
Her glaives blow
Get a MoM and never get her glaives and you wont have to go back to the fountain and u wont have her atk messed up
trust me it works
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glaives r great for farming though. sometimes i will destroy a tower unintentionally with the glaives.
koe viado e nos rapa
ulti is 2 strong..
ultimate hero killer good for chasing ,facing one on one,and irritating your enemy
cooldown 1140... that cant be right...
refresher orb + aghanims = lots of damage in one area. careful though, mana is very limited on her, even with aghanims
Late game this heroe uhmm well. Not too great. I used ulti+aghnims then refresher reapet on SkeleK and he still had 200 HP... The mana cost is high also. Suggest soul booster+boots+Mana booster then Refresher, finish BOT. Loathars. IF you can make it to late game without getting ganked every respawn then you can farm easily for the expensive items. ulti+loathars then chase lol funny.
This hero has a blatantly rigged ultimate - its possible for it to make 3000 damage in an AOE, it is not unlikely for Luna to take out an entire team at once.. and survivors are cut down by an attack which bounces around from person to person... and an instant 300 damage DD. This is the ultimate noob hero, for someone who wants to be able to hero kill but can't do it with any other class.
Ok Ok. Lets explain few things arround here: first af all stop whining about luna's ulti, there are way stacked heros than her. Eye of skadi is not an orb effect for ranged attacks so it wont cause malfuction, life steal will also works on her, but not the rest of orbs. Finally Luna IS NOT useless on late games if you think this then stop playing her... you maight be just too noob to know how to make a late game Luna.
Treads
EoS
MKB
Butterfly
You need nothing more
MoM
BoT
Butterfly
Lothars
RoB
Crit
this is my build
www.ronaldmojica.com
You need something to increase her HP
For Luna, I would start of with a boots of
speed in a 1 vs 1 match to boost her speed, next i will go for a yasha so her atk speed n movement speed will increase. Next go for a treads. Later, a Lothars Edge won't be too bad, it has a wind walk effect n it increase damage n AGI. At the mid game go for a Butterfly n MKB to boost ur atk speed n damage. Lastly, give her a Scepter to increase her mana n hp n also increase her ulti.
skill builds
1.moon glaive
2.lunar blessing
3.moon glaive
4.lunar blessing
5.moon glaive
6.eclipse
7.moon glaive
8.lunar blessing
9.lunar blessing
10.stats
11.eclipse
12-21.stats
22.25.lucent beams
item builds
boots of travel
satanic
butterfly
vanguard or defiance
lucent beam is her primary nuke, 6 second cooldown.
Does her ulti really have 1140 sec. cooldown or is it a typing error?
This Hero needs Battle Fury to work with Moon Glaive and HoD for armour and health (LS will work on each moon glaive)
This Hero needs Battle Fury to work with Moon Glaive and HoD for armour and health (LS will work on each moon glaive)
This Hero needs Battle Fury to work with Moon Glaive and HoD for armour and health (LS will work on each moon glaive)
wow wtf sorry bout the TRIPLE post :$
freakin noobs..ehem..sorry for the expression its just you underestimate luna too much..she's not my favorite hero.but she's one of the 3 i play best.(pudge,karde;luna) just buy;
2 wraith..
proceed to PT
crystalis->buriza(when your starting to get criticals,,its just every creep kill goes to you $chaChing$
trust me
after that buy vanguard..optiona only or defiance..coz u need defence.for you to cast your ulti and not be owned..
then dagger or lothar
last maybe ScePter or divine rapier..depends on how you kill your foes..if they got a hood of defiance go for rapier or MKB..
(blah blah..you might just say after this that why dont try to do my own guide??naaHHhh..im too lazy..
for me she's one of the best farmers..(SK,alchemist,luna,darkseer,pudge,tiny)
thats all folks..
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My items. Just wanna share ;)
Headdress of Rejuvination
Boots of Travel - movement and attack spd
Hand of Midas - transmute + attack speed
Helm of the Dominator - lifesteal
Aegis of the Immortal - armor
Lothar's Edge - killer!!
Just trap the enemy's hero near those creeps and see him die from each glaive hit hehehe
hey just wanna ask if luna can hit the enemy when the enemy is cycloned??
hey just wanna say that luna cant use helm of d dominator coz it is an orb effect item!!
dont lie 2 me yes or no??
((with the lucent beam/eclipse))
went 17-1 (stupid lina with scepter
) with this build: got 2 wraith bands and treads by the time i was lvl 6, then got mekanism (saved my ass a lot), then got satanic (SUPER LIFE SETAL) i was going for butterfly when game ended. one time i got a bottle and inherited anotehr bottle froma leaver so i never rna outa mana lol
french, her attack works with lifesteal, in fact, its an uber lifesteal
I prefer Battle type Luna. I really don't go for Agahnims, but it depends on the situation. My build:
Satanic
Buriza
HoT
Boots of Travel
Hyperstone
Any optional item(Vanguard, another HoT, etc)
This build rocks!!
by the time i build satanic, treads and butterfly, the game is always over. If anything, i build lothar's afterwards.
Hey if u like killin with eclipse u should try this: Get shiva's guard (a new item) and cast eclipse + artic blast its like "LOL"
really like her, especially eclpise
USELESS??? hell no its awesome and late game ownage
lothars, aghanim, bfly, buriza, and maybe a dagon= GODLIKE
She Owns hard my build with her
Butterfly
Helm of D
Crit Stick
Satanic
And if the game goes on for 2 long buy HoT this is all u need
Life Steal does not cancel her glaive
Build wise i go Glave, Blessing, Glave, Blessing, Glave, Ulti, Glave, Blessing, Blessing, Beam, Ulti, Beam, Beam, Beam, Stats
Ok... now i just noticed that aghenims is useless for Luna, it'll only hit 5 times a single targe and scepter is way too expensive. U rather go for a warrior Luna is much better
lol 2 vanguards? and y not scepter?
lololololol
1.BoT/treads
2.helm of dominator
3.scepter
4.butterfly?
5.radiance?
someone tell me if theres sumthing wrong with this just dont argue about dumb stuff like crits or MoM or skadi on luna
this build is based on the structure of early mid and late game.
-early-
3x wraith
Power treads
-mid-
helm of the dominator
crystalis
( n possibly a quarterstaff on standby)
-Late-
satanic
buriza
butterfly
happy hunting
nice built appleseed ..
who can kill this babe bythewat?
umm can sumone tell me how much damage does eclipse do?to a single opponent i mean..and lvl 3 ulti
give it satanic and butterfly and GG
aghanim, lothar edge and vanguard is useless for her
luna is one of the best heroes in dota.
those noobs who call her weak and useless are stupid... very stupid...
her moon glaive rocks. it mix well wit lifesteal.
early/mid items:
wraith band
wraith band
power treads(agi)
helm of the dominator
later game:
the butterfly
satanic
aganihm's scepter(always put this item last)
other cool items for her:
assualt curiass
monkey king bar
buriza-do-kyannon
is manta style useful on luna?
i rekon manta style is good :D clone 3 and wif ur glaive it shud own :D
machine gun like
Build for Luna Moonfang
1. Power Threads
2. Satanic
3. Buuterfly
4-6. Anything you want
my build is:
1.satanic
2.butterfly
3.power treads
4.loathar edge or manta style or blink dagger
5.buriza
6.aghanim sceptre
wad do u think?
manta is oso gud 2 confuse heroes...
so that they will use their ulti on ur illusion...and waste it...
den only the real luna cast eclipse...
have anybody ever won luna vs 3 Ai? i keep on losing. running out of idea.. wonder what strategy should i use..
have anybody ever won luna vs 3 Ai? i keep on losing. running out of idea.. wonder what strategy should i use..
Can anyone tell me how exactly the orb effect itmes are causing her atack to malfunction?
Can anyone tell me how exactly the orb effect itmes are causing her atack to malfunction?
Can anyone tell me how exactly the orb effect itmes are causing her atack to malfunction?
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i got a question.. how come everytime i use luna and i cast eclipse, it still damages enemies even without her 1st skill?? i never really cared about it but when i saw in the forums that eclipse wont work without putting points into lucent beam i was really curious why eclipse worked..
luna can only use life steal on her first target.. you can not get the effect of lifesteal on other targets who are hit by her moon glaive.. check dota orb table.. try also to check the actual game situation if you have time.
luna moonfang is a cool hero....but basically she likes hp...only weakness...but her powers r such that it can haress the opponent...
she has lucent beam cooldown of 6 sec..it can be annoyin to enemy...so i first go for an arecane ring...trouble my opponent until he wants to change the lane..arcane ring helps very good...u always have manna for doin an awesome 300 dmg....then i go for sceptre...then blink dagger...coz her health needs to be increases before she is ready to land up in the middle of someone..then red daggon..n upgrades..by that time the game finishes...then radiance n then butterfly...
Hey you Godspeedisowning: u feel u r so good in dota...
FUCK you !!!
its it necessary for luna to buy vanguard if she already had helm of dominator??
all of you guys are veterans of this game..hehehe!
do u get satanic??
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this hero really rocks when there's a gangbang.....
whos ulti do u guys think is stronger?luna or lich??eclipse or chain frost?
Items:
1. Satanic or Mask of Madness
2. Butterfly
3. Butterfly
4. Butterfly or Lothars
5. Sange and Yasha
6. Power Treads or Boots of Travel
I am not sure for the new version, but for the past versions, if you put Satanic or Mask of Madness, or the plain mask on the first slot, and put Sange and Yasha on a lower slot, you still have your attack in the form of a life steal attack. Sange and Yasha is required for Luna as she has no disables. The speed is needed to catch enemy heroes.
This is her fighter build and easily farms up gold like crazy. Also kills heroes amazingly fast within seconds. Most heroes cannot outrun you as you will be near max speed.
Do not get a Scepter for this hero. She is much better as a fighter. Scepter will only be a hinderance that cannot be sold.
it says a 1140 second cooldown for ulti level 1 rite now... maybe you should change that.
Satanic
Butterfly
Boots of Travel
Assault Cuirass
Buriza
Lothar/Radiance.
Int setups are complete rubbish, like aghanim/refresher builds. Good once in a while but you're utterly defenseless outside that cooldown of your ulti. Not to forget: Strenght heroes can easily counter your ulti with high hp.
Damage/speed is thé way to go to make an imba hero into unbeatable. Do not forget to creep/farm real hard on her to get your items asap, then the fun only truly starts
Read This carefully:
Luna can be used in 2! ways.
Either focus on her ulti (INT aspect) and her quick escape.
OR
Focus on her AGility, Hp level and dominance in her farming ability.
this post i am focusing on her SPELLS:
*PTs are a must because of her HP. (Str plz)
* Buy 2 - 3 Wraith Bands to farm with and a Bottle.
* Upgrade to Boosters then to mystic staff. Then to Sceptre.
*Buy a blink dagger
*Then either a Linkens or a HoD
This does work for those who do like his ulit.. some might say a refresher was in order but a definite kill is on the cards with Sceptre
Now for her AGILITY and DAMAGE aspect.
*Power (str) Treads again because of aspd, hp and ms.
* Rush Helm of Dominator with 2 wraith bands and a Bracer.
* Then Sell 1 Wraith Band and buy Lothars edge, depending on cash amount from farming.
* Go CREEPING, 4get about the team 4 4mins and creep.
8Go get some kills (if you have played her b4)
* Build for Butterfly then Reaver
* Satanic is on the cards so be patient.
*Should be on a killing spree heading to Godlike (MONSTER KILL)
*I feel like i've forgotten something but add to it...
*No need 4 anything else really so...
Happy Beaming!
It was warned in the begining that Luna cannot purchase item with Orb effect like SnY, desolator. Isn't helm of dominator or Satanic an orb effect item? Why can Luna purchase these items?
I like to use her for 1v1 or 1v2 games!
I was Luna v my friends: Jahrakal and Huskar!
And I owned them. They were always changing lanes, avoiding me. All my items was made! My items that game:
-BoT
-The Butterfly
-Satanic
-Radiance
-MKB
-(I forgot this thing, but it's Godly for sure)
my build 4 luna:
1.power threads
2.butterfly
3.satanic
4.buriza
5.aghanim sceptre
6.refresher orb (if playin against high hp strength heroes)or mayb a blink dagger
this build enable luna to play both battle type and her ulti
RE: pro-nooby
Read further back and you will see that the Helm (therefore Satanic) would only disrupt her glaive ability as it bounces, not allowing her the lifesteal from te 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th bounce. I dont think it stacks with her BLESSING but it definetely doesnt disrupt it.
Dont get LUNA, TAXEX, and VENGEFUL get in your way with their level 4 damage aura's...it stacks and it sucks if your the opponent....
Satanic is the best orb 4 her i promise
early game helm of dominator for luna is kinda weak...u need 2 go back to the fountain 4 quite a couple of times...
i prefer havin a vanguard 1st...4 early game...den only i farm 4 a satanic
So much for no orb effect
i agree with craft this. she doesn't lifesteal on her 2nd, 3rd and 4th moon glaive. the reason why lifesteal is good for her is because it is the only orb that stacks with her glaive (only for the first hit though). if you buy her deso, moon glaive would be canceled. i prefer buying her agi items than life steal. vanguard is good enough.
this hero is imba with his ulti...
best items build is here:
1.PT
2.butterfly
3.satanic
4.buriza-do kyanon
5.aghanim's scepter
6.divine raiper
even when u PICK luna. lvl 1 u can afford a bracer a gaunlet and 4 tangos. so no prblem wif farming early game. with ur fist b, complete ur other bracer and get pt. get ur helm of dom only AFTER u get ur bfly or simply eaglehorn. if not u cant steal much hp. once bfly and helm of dom is completed go for satanic cos its great for luna. start owning
Ok, most orbs dont work, she will either not throw anything, or with diffusal and skadi, she will attack but the effect will not work. life steal does work.
I have a quesiton though, it is confirmed that you only lifesteal every glavie if you are using satanic?
Also im pretty sure with criticals, only your first glaive can crit, and if it does, it stops. Does anyone know for sure?
what is the exact damage of luna's eclipse?
is refresher needed by this hero late game to kill strength heroes??
sword_acolyte: err satanic lifestea works only on de 1st glaive.
..beyondgodlike..: 1 beam 300 dmg max 4 beams to each hero.
moonfang: no.. luna is depending on its normal attack in late game. eclipse no longer hurts tt much. bfly is pain enuf as long as u don get perma stunned.
gdluck guys
My itembuild:
- BoT
- Mekansm
- Arcane Ring
- Mjollnir(good in combo with ulti)
- Aghanim's Scepter
comment at moonfang: DONT buy refresher orb for luna because her manapool isn;t big enough.
items:
-dagger
-satanic
-butterfly
-manta (ROCKS!!!)
-HoT
-BoT/PT
items:
-dagger
-satanic
-butterfly
-manta (ROCKS!!!)
-HoT
-BoT/PT
items:
-dagger
-satanic
-butterfly
-manta (ROCKS!!!)
-HoT
-BoT/PT
Does lifesteal stack to Moon_glaive
omfg... mljonir doesnt work xD my itembuild is crap.. realised today xD
How do i KILL this HERO 1v1??? It's pissing me off >_
Is it just me (and all of my friends), or is the link to the "Moon Wrath" guide not working? I love Luna and I am angry/sad that I cannot get to the only 5 star guide there is for her
When I click on the link, I get the following error message (not a popup, just this only thing on an entirely blank page) : Error1: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '93' and sid='5207'' at line 1.
I have no clue what any of this means, so please help!
tang ina nyo mga b0b0.........bah0 ng build nyo.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hey odicalp01...
can u teach me how 2 use luna wif manta??
how to count the damage of her ulti?hard to aim for farm seem..T.T
i prefer gettin helm of dominator first 4 her b4 i get my bracer n so on...
btw...wats the exact hp of a normal strength hero in late game??
Different heroes gain different stats-STR; a way to check it, however, is to play a single play game and use cheats to gain lvl and see. Otherwise different heroes with different items have various amount of hit points
wad i mean was most strength heroes has basiclly how much hp around late game...2300 or more den dat?
I'd say around 2700, but again it still greatly depends on the item build
whos stronger?luna or obsidian destroyer?
My build:
Wraith band
Wraith band
Power treads
Lothar's
Butterfly
Skadi
dont give him eye of dick because she get fuck
give her some items that have lifesteal duh!
Satanic
Butterfly
Buriza
satanic is good item 2 get after scepter(for 2x/3x kills) n bfly(glaive everywhr+evasion) make u untouchable... everybd is afraid of u...
luna is too strong in dota...ur opponent might feel that ur cheatin when u use luna
farming skill + super nuke skill.... OMG watz dat... Totally IMBALANCED
BOT
Satanic
Butterfly
Butterfly
Blink Dagger
Assault
If you want to earn faster, i recommend to make radiance after helm of dominator and power treads. this will surely give you a lot of gold. this will help you on pushing in late game with butterfly and satanic...hehehe
nahh my latest items was
1. Power Threads
2. Satanic
3. Monkey King Bar
4. Buriza
5. Butterfly
6. (using optional and Defensive Item) e.g Assault Cuirass or (Offensive Item) e.g Aghanims for the skill usage.
any ways, i can not do such a nice thing with luna, with some items that might not work like desolator, why it doesnt work?
just wonderin, i never tried it, anyways, nice guide, i need some strategies, which comes first in skill? Lucent Beam or Moon Glaive?? i just give her lvl 1 moon glaive then Lucent Beam, then Moon Glaive and Lucent again, then when level 5 and 6, i set the skills in Lvl 3 Lucent Beam and Lvl 1 Eclipse
i wonder if it will work as my strategy... well, thanks guys for the help
Satanick
Can someone please respond to comment 150? I still cannot access the "Moon Wrath" guide because of the same error that I mentioned in my previous comment. This has gone on for around a month now and I REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT GUIDE.
All I really want to know is if anyone else has this same problem. If not, could anyone explain what is wrong with my computer. Please help!
I think his ultimate at lvl 6 is imba. Killed Broodmother fullhealt just with ulti in 2 sec.
luna traix and clink are good patner since luna and traix skill stack wit all range hero u will have a huge range dmg
Wow Icefrog is a moron, new luna is nerfed, fer ult depend on her lucent lvl 140 cd always n no more ministuns... GG icefrog stop makin new dota maps u just suck at it... FFFFFFSSSS
I am glad luna is not so cheated anymore. 3000 dmg is still way too much for an ulti that keeps casting when you die. 900 dmg on lvl 6 is enough and sheep for 250 of mana (with only 2 skills to use with Luna). Thx IceFrog, you just got to nerf balanar now.
Alright.... I'm getting tired of this... Can anyone access the Moon Wrath guide? I can't because an error occurs when I click on the link from this page. The error is as follows: Error1: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '93' and sid='5207'' at line 1.
All I want to know is if anyone else has this problem. THAT MEANS YOU. Please just post a comment saying "Yes, Repsajo, I have the same problem" or "No Repsajo, your computer must be messed up because I can access that guide with no problems". Seriously people. Please don't just ignore me. It's not cool
One possible thing that could mean that DS just has something wrong is that the text and everything on this page isn't centered with the black strips running down the sides. Once again, YOU AND THAT MEANS YOU please say if you also have this problem, or if this page is no different than any others. PLEASE DON'T IGNORE ME!
P.S. sorry for the angry caps lock rants.
Yes, Repsajo, I have the same problem
Yeah, I'm getting the same problem. I used to not be able to see the Lunactic Eclipse guide, but that one works now. It's just Moon Wrath that doesn't work.
Thanks for finally responding guys. So admins, could you please fix this? I love luna and I can't find any REALLY good guides anywhere, and Moon Wrath guide is 5 stars, so....
Ya, please fix it
Btw this is my luna build:
2 Null Talismans (I like being able to use Lucent Beam a lot early, and no other items in my build involve int.)
Treads
Helm of Dominator
Butterfly
Finish Satanic
usually the game doesn't get much past this point, and I STRONGLY believe that everyone should get helm in their build because... well its awesome for her. Her damage output gets over doubled with Moon Glaives and her aura, so she lifesteals TONS mid-late game. Also, I think it is better to get Butterfly before finishing satanic because the Agi/Dmg/Dodge/Attack Speed is way better for her than the added strength and lifesteal for satanic.
Repsajo, my build is very similar to you:
Items:
Helm of Dominator
2-3 wraiths
BOT
butterfly
satanic
assault cuirass
Skills:
Beam
Stats
Beam
Stats
Beam
Eclipse
Beam
Stats
Blessing
Stats
Eclipse
Glaive
.....
Stats early to gain more survivability glaive after mid-game to increase her farming ability. She will be a great farmer after learning Glaive!
She is the most horrible DPS after equipped with butterfly
with full glaive and blessing, her output is 3.2 x dmg!
most people dont even bother gettin lucent beams so the nerfed ulti is much better for luna players who r nub and rarely use skills
I like how people say she is nerfed. They buffed her. OH NOES, ULTIMATE DOESN'T MINI STUN ANYMORE! BOO HOO! But regular Lunecent beam does, and it has like 1000 range now.
Her ultimate still does the same thing.
http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/glad.gif
Glad
I agree with MrZombie. People are all "man i hate Icefrog for making luna suck" but really she's a lot better. I mean, the .6 second mini-stun on lvl 4 lucent beam is really really helpful. It is long enough for a pudge to get an accurate hook (i use that combo with my friends). Also, I never really noticed the mini-stuns on the ult before, so I don't really care that they were taken away. Also, does anyone know if the range on lucent beam actually was increased or not?
Luna seriously needs to be nerfed beyond belief; no I do not mean her skills, I mean her ability to slap a helm of the dominator/bfly and destroy every single player. Her glaive should be made an orb effect; obviously something is seriously wrong when luna can 3v1 by simply auto attacking; she doesn't even need her ult. I hate people who claim they are pro when they play luna and use the ubber evade/lifesteal build. Icefrog learn to fix your characters
This is one of my favorite HERO!!!... Power Threads, Butterfly and Satanic will do and you will go crazy pawning!...
try my build to this hero:
PT
Satanic
Assult Cuirass
Buriza
Aghanim's
Guinsoo
BEYOND GODLIKE
this hero should be made bader because shes so imba i cant believe how
Yes, Repsajo, I have the same problem
do maelstrom works on her?????
Luna is for noobs in ap game.
they totally imba,in case of it's glaive, and ulti.
imagine in a 2 on 1 situation,luna can kills them easily,the glaive can transfer between each other and receive damage,if the luna's attack speed is like crazy+plus ulti,we cant even touch her,
my build...
aghanims
satanic
scady(it works it will be like chain frost)
SnY
treads
experimental(HoT,Vanguard,Manta Style)
Luna is a bitch! Along with fv they spoil the entire dota game. so gay that only a butterfly and a satanic and a power tread is needed then is pure ownage. And this hero's glaive make her farm like a fucker!so she can get a butterfly and a satanic in 30min only or less
And for those people who put scepter in luna's build, please fuck your mother. because the 6000 can be used for a butterfly which is surely more worth than a scepter. And one more thing, scepter gives you 500 mana that you dont need.
and it also gives you 25 intel which is piece of bullshit to luna!!
Luna is just gettin better with new incomin versions, at the start i thought that they nerfed Luna but now that im gettin use to the new skills its like: omfg this lucent beam range and stun is great and the sinergy between lucent beam and eclipse is adorable, LUNA FOR THE WIN
O yea and by the way at dotastrategy administration: lunas skills need to be fixed: Now lucent beam cost less mana and has a ministun and her ult has 140 cd in all lvls
WOW OMG stop gettin shit items for Luna: skadi? scepter? vanguard? luna does not need that she is not a tank or a disabler or a mage, skadi slow effect doesn even work, go for a dmg/life steal luna...
And just for those who keep callin luna "imba" let me tell u that u just are too noob to counter her, luna can kill and she can get killed learn how to do it so.... stop cryin about "imba" if u dont like it just quit dota and b happy
nah, luna seriously cant be killed if u get her satanic and butterfly. she pushes ur entire creep wave and kills u in a couple seconds of fighting
@ lupeman
u obviusly dont know how to counter her (noob)
no... luna cant be killed late game, only via 3v1 ambush and they must have at least 2 disables otherwise luna just lifesteals all her health back.
i know this bcos i hav never died in late game with luna afta PT, butterfly, satanic and SnY. (lifesteal overrides maim)
This is THE item build for Luna:
1. PT/BoT (might want BoT when you have enough money)
2. Butterfly
3. Satanic (works with glaives, but only steals on first hit)
4. Buriza
5. Radiance
6. Whatever you want, the other 5 items are the only necessary ones.
Easy kills with this build.
Viper shadow, you say we are too noob to counter luna then you tell me how to counter.if not just shut up
HAHAHHAHAH don't EVER put a crit item like buriza on luna, the crit stops the glaive if it connects. Seriously, don't complain that she is 'imba'. She doesn't have that much HP, she goes down fast under fire.
But you only need 3 items to own, treads, helm, butterfly.
because eye of skadi is not have effect to luna
is to exprensive
better butterfly
and satanic
in 35minute....
=triple kill
and the enemy GG already......
hi, im new to using luna and....the luna at 6.51 is different from the luna stated above her eclipse now has this extra add-on effect: "a target cannot be hit more than 4 times with this eclipse...." this means her eclipse only does up to 1200....also....the damage of each lucent beam is dependent on the level of the lucent beam itself! maybe i dint notice it before, but was it always like this?
WoW!!! Nice Hero
but it's to weak build item BKB or Black King Bar
Black King Bar Requirement:
Broadsword-1200
Ogre Axe-1000
Scroll of Black King Bar-1600
Activate the Black king bar to immune in magic and Luna Moonfang can't cast her spell
Man... this hero is owning.
i got like 2-29 with luna.
items were threads, lothars,bfly,skadi and some wraiths!
when u go 29-2 vs somebody,then u are both NEWBS:he can't play and u don't know when a game is pointless
Btw. Some1 say shes ulti is imba....use SILENCE! buy (malovance?) or what was it..
luna same items of mirana
skadi and satanic [it stacks]
soo skadi,satanic,threads,vanguard^^
slow + life steal the best
= GG^^
Since you have skady and satanic, you have enought HP and you don't need the vanguard; replace it with butterfly, mkb or buriza
correction luna is a woman!!! by the way, old item of luna are effective(not using ordb effect):
Mekansm
Boots of travel
Aghanim's Scepter
Lothar's Edge
Refresher Orb
Butterfly
Correction luna is a girl!!!
By the way, old item of LUNA is effective not using orb effect:
Mekansm
Boots of Travel
Aghanim"s scepter
Lothar's Edge
Refresher Orb
Butterfly
luna should buy...
power threads
butterfly
satanic
buriza
blink dagger -> 4 suprise attack...blink ulti...wack...die
bkb -> to avoid gangbang or used when solo against a gang of heroes
Luna moonfang is the best, hiting 5 enemis in 1 atak, and her powerful eclipse.
this are the builds for luna:
satanic
Vanguard
Aghanims
S and Y
Boots of Travel
Butterfly
Skadi
U can use Sange and yasha to Luna, u only need is a life steal item for Luna's attack to still function
if you Buy Luna Sange and yasha and boots of travel, Her movement speed will be more than 440, fast enough to chase or outrun Balanar.
wid aghanims, Luna's Eclipse will hit an enemy with 5-6 Lucent Beams, just use the 1st skill as last hit.
She has few chances to kill 2 or 3 enemies with the eclipse and lucent beam.
True but you can only buy her yasha cause with SY her normal attack doesn't work.Still if you want high ms you can get her Eul
this are the skills u should lvl up
lvls 1: 1st skill
2: 2nd "
3: 1st "
4: 2nd "
5: 1st "
6: 4th "
7: 1st "
8: 2nd "
9: 2nd "
10: 3rd "
11: 4th "
12: 3rd "
13: 3rd "
14: 4rd "
15: Bonus
16: 4th "
17-25: Bonus
does some of you know that luna is the half twin of Mirana?, because she rides on a wild cat, and the eclipse is a bit like the starfall but beams not Meteors.
well, theres a rison why Luna is the half Twin of Mirana
Once your in a 1 on 1 against Luna, wen her Eclipse is redy along with her qst skill and aghanims, u have few seconds to be Killed
once she has a boots of travel and yasha, she's to fast, you can chase her
Never Call Luna the Ultimate Noob hero, Cuz she has Killed almost all the Heroes of Dota.
When I used Luna, This are the heroes that Luna and I have Killed:
Mirana, Balanar, Zeus, Lich, Centuer, BloodSeeker, Yurnero, Puck, Sandking, Drow, Sylabear, Enchantress, Ursa, Venomancer, Viper, Kardel, Banehollow, Atropos, Rexxar, Earthshaker, Razor, Lion, Vengeful, Geomancer, Necrolyte, Weaver, Anubarak, Broodmama, Tinker, Lina, Axe, Magnus.
OMFG dude stop flooding just to show us how pathetic you are.What if I say that I have kiled those heroes....TWICE. It is the skill of the player that counts, not the hero
So what cranium Basher, it was my tecnik stupid
Luna Moonfang is a great hero. Of course she suffered from low hp and low range(330) early game, but she is a excellent killer, farmer and late game hero. Her ulti able to take down most hero early game at level 6.( 900 damage )
The ideal build for her:
1. Power Thread ( May change to BoT late game)
2. Satanic
3. Butterfly
4. Assault cuirass
5. Radiance
6. HoT/Buriza/Dagger/BKB/LS depends on your enemies.The 6th item actually not so matter to her, she is very strong after getting 3rd item
I think the best item build for luna is:
1.boots of travel (she already has 320 ms so it would be a great advantage to run after her enemies if u don't kill them)
2.butterfly
3.satanic (she has low HP. Actually satanic is not very good because she regenerates HP only on the first hit)
4.manta style (3 moonfangs with moong laive each that can hit 5 enemies)
5. buriza do kyanon (critical bouncing attack is very good)
6.heart of tarasque (gives about 900 HP)
hayzzzz....
( lmf moonrider )]
ur really a dumb ass noobz arent you??
no one can stand 1 on 1 to eclipse bitch..
luna can kill all hero in dota dumb ass
but you forgot something.know what?
1st you can use leap for mirana to dodge the eclipse...
2nd you can use blink to dodge eclipse
3rd. you can use lothars edge item to wind walk..
4th moonfang cannot win 1 on 1 on magina.. got it???
bitch.... dumb ass....
ur really a boring......
hayzzz boring......
uhmmm luna cannot win over mirana
yur so stupid, im to smart for that, I will make them think I used the Eclipse, u know how, use the lucent beam 1st, they will think Luna used the eclipse and they will charge her until they get the real Eclipse.
hayzzzz ur really a dumbass noobz....arent you??
everbody`s knows the difference between lucent beam and whatsoever you called eclipse bitch.......!!!!!!
ur thinking that ur smart for that...i can only say that yur so stupid.....
yur really weak,noobz,bitch,stupid,feeling so pro player in dota,
dont play dota dumb ass.....
hayzzzz boring.....
ur a boring person......
hayzzzz boring......
Eclipse is the Number of Lucent Beams stupid.
You Don't know me Bitch, When I play Dota, you don't know how deadly I am using the Heroes with the Ultimates.
how about 1 on 1
I live somewhere in fairview park subdivision, My School is FCI or Flos carmeli institution of QC.
My Build:
Early Game:
-Bracer
-Bracer
-Agi Treads
-Helm of the Dominator
Mid Game:
-Vanguard
-Lothar's
Late Game:
-Butterfly
-Satanic
If the game hasn't ended yet, i'd go for:
-Buriza
-Monkey King Bar
My final build would be:
Butterfly
Satanic
Buriza
MKB
Lothar's
Travel Boots
Oh Yeah.
Early/Mid you should always have Arcane Ring, also MKB+Buriza is a pure mathematical joke. You already have ministuns in your beams and if you need more dmg... you dont. Even the scepter is better than MKB on Luna.
arcane? scepter? omg.
OK might have gone over the top advising the scepter but you buy either MKB or Buriza, not both.
Arcane Ring is a pro-item Early/Mid in a 5 vs 5.
lothars in my opinion is a good item for luna. When u r above lvl 6 some heroes try to stay away from u and ur ult. Lothars lets u get really close to them and even run away during ganks.
Sweet!Eclipce can hit all on one person!
*ahem* 'Cooldown: 1140/120/100' Uhh... I think you've got a little problem there.
i like luna coz of her ulti its the best ever!!!
i see Luna... Any1 Else Think Shes A Little Boring ..... just A Tad
Luna = Is Gay= Bad Is= Bouring.
No1 Plays Luna Right Anymore ( GET SATANIC ) before Yu get Any Lvl 3+ Items
And People read Who Get Aura EArly Game I See People Do It All The Time And I Think I Mighta Missed somfin!?
By FuNnYbOnEz 2008-04-28
i like luna coz of her ulti its the best ever!!!
Me
ROFL!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A NOOB!!!!!
Complete prey for N'aix. That's all I have to say.
guys... can I ask u something?? what are the really useful items to buy for luna... so she can go beyond godlike??
satanic, butterfly and any damage up items and any boots.
the most overrated hero in the game used so much im ap games and even randomed at most times she has take the place of snipe being used the most
Item build for me:
-----------------------------
1. Ring of regen
2. Power Tread (str early game, agi mid game)
3.eagle horn -> quarter staff -> butterfly
4.Helm of iron will -> mask of death -> helm of dominator -> reaver -> satanic
5. Broadsword -> Claw of Atk -> Crysalis -> Demon Edge -> Buriza
6. Probably game ended or go assault cuirass
correct me if any mistake
The Eclipes bothers me, specially the stuns in every beam..make it difficult to escape..
