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Strategies:Earth Bound, Donatboy's guide to Raigor posted by donatboy on 2007-03-03The best stunner posted by maxi12 on 2006-09-02 |
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Limit your discussions to Raigor Stonehoof - The Earthshaker.
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Raigor is my MOST favorite stunner and multiple killer!
HE CAN KILL EVEN 5 HEROES IN ONE WAVE!
sure
A multiple killer? I think Jakiro is the best.
damage return should be
lvl 1 - 15 damage
lvl 2 - 30
lvl 3 - 45
lvl 4 - 60 damage return
multiple killer? try sandkings epi center
This guy can stun for 4.75 seconds on level 16. If you use this guy a lot.
Enchant Totem is more usefull with Afterrshock. Will hit for sure. Use Enchant Totem to steal tower.
try raigor with dagger and blink towards the enemy and fissure it, he cannot escape, while you use enchant with after shock, OWNING!!!
this guy looks unstoppable... theres got to be some flaws
get refresher orb and do double echo slam and u are even more unstoppable
I like to play this guy as a mp pool support. Range of fissure is long so it isn't hard to seal in a guy within tower range and then have teammates gang him. Good for ambushing as well, 1.75 stun is a bit scant but usually enough time to get your teammates in position. Gotta love the stun that you can't see coming :D
Question:
does enchant totem take effect when you use fissure or
echo slam
im not rly sure wat aftershock does
can someone clarify for me plz?
aftershock = if u use one of his other skills, it does extra damage and stun. attack style: fissure to trap/stun them, aftashock takes some damage, echo slam, totem, fissure, refresher orb, fissure, totem, echo slam, u cant lose. btw drew........ Level 2 - age, 45 echo damag 275 initial dame. great spellin.
double echo slam isn't that useful anywayz, if you use echoslam on 5heroes with so many creeps at their side, then you'll probably kill ALL the creeps and use fissure to finish off the other heroes, and IF someone even lives, you always have enchant totem(you should have blink dagger so doing this is easier)
or if you have battle fury, 1 echo slam on a bunch of creeps and heroes then wish that the heroes are near each other, then blink-enchant totem- attack! enchant totem gives you 200% extra damage and with battle fury you have extra damage AND the damage will be splashed to all the heroes!! then fissure
that ulti is mainly just to farm and chase with u hav lvl 4 aftashock. when its 5v5 and if theres a giant fight goin on, sneak in and echo slam, aftashock will stun them and this is ur chance to gank someone usin totem if their health is low, use fissure to lock their path so they cant flee
boost up his mana and you can go shop for kills.... and he's best at creep blocking "
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One of the best stunners in the game.
Items:
blink dagger
sheepstick
skadi
bkb
boots of travel
refresher.
Uses:
1. BKB 2. blink to enemy (usually big crowds with creeps) 3. Enchant totem 4. Fissure ( angle it, so you can trap a few) 4. Ulti 5. enchant totem 6. refresher orb. 7. enchant totem. 8. fissure. 9. Ulti 10. GG!!!
I DONT LIKE YOUR STYLE WAKOKOKO
I dont know
i tried use Raigor with a arcane ring
not bad too... hard to empty-mp
i tried use Raigor with a arcane ring
not bad too... hard to empty-mp
empty empty
this hero hardly needs mana though if ur good at conservin unless needed
Does anyone know exactly how echo slam works? I've been playin earthshaker for a short while, and lovin it, but I cant seem to master echo slam.
Basically heres what I do know: Echo slam 1v1 is garbage, and echo slam with a shitload of fodder creeps just owns everything.
Does a level 3 echo slam deal 65 damage to ALL units in the area, all of which then travel to another unit? So is it basically a kind of 'chain lightning to every single guy around you' type effect?
I dont know, just guessing =[
@rain9441
echo slam damages all near by targets by 350. after that all of the targets that been hit by the wave sends an additional wave which causes 65 dmg to the near by enemies..
so use echo slam when lots of enemies.. otherwise not so useless...
some times when a big creep wave come i use echo.. in 1 sec you farm all the creeps.. but you must be sure about you do not need your ulti soon..
hi guys...well here's a nice combo: try black king bar...when it's activated he automatically casts an aftershock...dmg+stun on simple hits...try it out.
eoieiri
The King Of Stun.Buy refresher....
Refresher? You use fissure to create an impassible path so they hav to run back to u to cross the otherside.
Hi There Raigor fans!!!
LISTEN TO THIS:
Get
BATTLEFURY FOR THIS HERO FOR PERMANENT AFTERSHOCK + Cleaving atk+Cranium Basher+SnY+Hyperstone+Enchanted Totem+Fissure x Echo Slam ==>
heh...refresher for diz tanker?? sound cool dude ill try 2 work with it,hehe.. for me this hero iz the BEST stunner in the DOTA world!! jz imagine all of his skill will make ur enemy stun for a quite a time...damm cool~~ in early game make sure u guyz make n arcane ring for endless mana source..but remember 2 use it well... diz hero is good i defending a base,tower or even being n attaker or tanker..with ur 1st skill u will over come some range hero while really usefull in farming creep.. ive use diz hero a lot of time n one of my fav..the result its FIRST BLOOD, hehe.. but remember 2 get the right item for diz stunner...arcane ring or a blink dagger is a must hac item for diz hero.. other item i recommend iz ....
1.battle fury
2.HoT
3.VG
4.MoM or power thread
5.BoT
for those guyz that hav insane idea n a lot of gold try diz...make diz hero a BUTTERFLY or SKADI...hehe,try it 1st n u will get what i mean..
ok thats all for me...
Actually there's some hero that can with stand multiple killers..
even crixalis' epicenter can be with stand by ezalor the light keeper
just by a proper item..
there is no such thing as multi killers for a good player
yet another great build for raigor
1. Power threads
2. Battle Fury
3. Vanguard
4. Vlad's
5. HoT
6. hyperstone /cuirass
InBA, just try it once
Perma aftershock ... what a fool. Just an animation, but no stun at all. Bf is kind of useless on earth, just go guinzoo for mana regen, doe...
Wow this hero is pure skill spammer u dont get those items... i agree wit battle fury though
u see guys use Arcane ring so you can use fissure many times and always use Kelen's dagger of escape for surprise attacks then use Battlefury then Ginsoo you will be in GODLIKE mode in no time! echo slam is better to use when they are many creeps! it will double the damage! (ouch!)
my favorite early-mid game, echo slam + enchant totem+ attack attack + enchant totem + fissure for the finishing touches, damn double/ triple kills nearly everytime, late game... so so
THIS IS SPELLCASTING HERO
U CAN TURN THE MATCH TO UR SIDE BY HIS ULTIMATE ONLY
MY COMBOS
1. REFRESHER
2. LOTHARS / BLINK DIGGER
3. SKADI
4. GINSU
5. TRAVELL
6. HEART
I WAS OWNING WITH THESE COMBOS AGINST A GOOD FACELACE VOID
That my favorite hero in Sentinel. He can kill 2 heroes in battle.
My ITEM Built
1). Arcane Ring
2). Blink Dagger
3). Boots of Travel
4). Refresher Orb
5). Battle Fury
6). HoT
One of the easiest melee heroes to own with at early/mid game, probably second to ursa warrior.
this hero is more pwerful
1.it nid an arcane ring
2.power treads
3.bloodstone for more mana
4.battle fury
5.tarrasque
6.tarrasque
it is more pwer ful how to use him
1.fissure
2.echo slam
3.totem
4.fissure
5.arcane ring
6.fissure
it is more pwer ful how to use him
1.fissure
2.echo slam
3.totem
4.fissure
5.arcane ring
6.fissure
use -wtf no cooldown or manacost
den train to lvl16 keep doing echo slam or fissure
for me, this hero is a bomb!
Hehe
i got battlefury for him^^
Hi EarthShaker fans
My item build is :
Bot-Arcane-Battle Fury-Hyper-Battle Fury-Heart
Dnt judge till u try
blink dagger...
Only for Rich guys:
Heart of Tarrasque
Boots of Travel
Guinsoo Scythe
Battlefury
Radiance
Assault Cuirass
Keep spamming EnchantedTotem and Fissures.
Try my items noobs!!!!!
ITEMS:
1) Boots of Travel
2) Dagger of Escape
3) Ginsue
4) Refresher Orb
5) BKB
6) Vanguard
GG!!!
You need some more damage
for me, this hero is very strong.. i use this hero a while ago.. and its great! well, it depends on how you can use this hero.. superb ability and every easy to handle!
item: threads, 2 bashers, vanguard,
guinsoo is really good for this hero, 4 disables
Does anyone know of a hero that is good agaisnt Raigor?
well to be good against raigor i think mass disabling will do it. try either a lion r rhasta with guinsoo and let ur mates kill him or a perma basher like troll time guy and slar to kill him urself.
wooow u need all these heroes all together to kill only one hero
and wouldnt raigor have his allyes with him
CHAIN HATDOG KA BA!
LABAN NA!
DI BA KAYO PINAGAARAL
KAMUKA MO PUWET KO!!
,,what is the meaning of MoM ??/
tnx 4 the strategy ^^
Hi..i'm a new player..i'm not n!ghTm@r3 or nighTmarE..i am Šš½
^_^ lol ^RK^ team
Raigor/Earthshaker try to build PT-BOT, Kelen, Heart, Arcane, Battle Fury & (Refresher Orb)..Y refresher??..coz ply multiply combo ulti to got Triple Kill!!!
COMBO SHAKER !!!!!!!
created by: Šš½
buy 2 Gautlets Strength ist..
refresher?
, echoslam will kill all units if there is mass creeps and be a near death for heroes caught in the attack.
really powerful when reached end games, and with the proper items
my primary items:
arcane ring
kelen's dagger of escape
battle fury
Later game:
Heart of Tarrasque
Assualt Curiass
Me no know wut the trud aftershock does. Me need el help!
Aftershock is passive. Every time you cast a spell (Echo slam, Enchant totem or Fissure in this case) you automaticaly deal damage to all units around you and stun them. The AOE is pretty decent sized too. Its primary use is to keep opponents stunned while you do your combo. Aftershock allows you to keep an entire area stunned for approximately 4.5 seconds, refresher = 9 seconds.
the only items you' need to own with raigor are arcane, blink dagger and battle fury
what i like about this guy is the fear you dont have to be any where near to fissure them so they cant do anything about it it rules
try put mjolnir on raigor. it rocks!
could someone explain to me why blink dagger is so inportant? it IS kind of expensive, especially in 5v5, so, why is it so darn usefull?
Why blink dagger is important: It lets you gain position on an enemy OR gets you out of a tight spot really quickly.
For raigor its an even more useful item as his spells require you to be right next to the enemy for maximum effect. If you were to walk up to 4 people and start casting spells you'll probably be dead. If you manage to make it to them they probably spread out and made your AOE's ineffective, but if you blink into a group of 4 people and start casting spells, you'll have a good chance of getting all 4 in your stunlock and doing heavy damage to all of them (not to mention 5 seconds of stun which your allies can then take advantage of).
ok tnx dude, I dont play 5v5 that much, since I usually play on my home LAN.
so on 1v1 or 2v2 you dont have the problem of getting killed if you get too close, or your enemies spreading, thanks anyway
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This hero is sure powerful but its fissure cannot hurt Puck, if puck has phase shift.. Just Use Ulti to him..
hahhahahah nice stunner!1!
Raigor is my MOST favorite stunner and multiple killer! HE CAN KILL EVEN 5 HEROES IN ONE WAVE!
did a triple kill
love the rumnpshaker!
all i wana do is stun..stun ....slam. pwned.. i mean how simple can he get?
Tbhis hero is great with all his stuns, just blink ult, totem, fissur and kill. But after i get BoT, kelens dagger, arcane ring, and like 2 nulls, what should i get him? thats the build i like
rush arcane ring then boots, upgrade to BoT. Then head for Blink Dagger and another arcane to become a reall support hero. Buy a battle fury or a Linkens to top off his gr8 after shock damage.
So again:
Arcane Ring (x2)
BoT
Blink Dagger
Linkens
Battle Fury
Happy Hoofing
arcane ring gofor 1 emough, it not stack...
Raigor is the most offensive and destructive Hero!
mumu ka raigor......
you are the COW
hahahaha!!!☺
ba™an
read Earth Bound, Donatboy's guide to raigor...you will learn how to master raigor stonehoof..
This definitely has to be heaviest stunner in the game. All of his spells basically can stun thanks to his Aftershock. I tried using Dagger and Refresher on him. Those suckers never got the chance to move once i slammed in... triple kills all the way...
hold on there (Craft This ^_^)...
2 arcane rings?
no way...
that wouldn't stack...
they'll both cooldown at the same time..
lol raigor much is hopeless in 1v1 battle.....and later in the game......his spell r mostly useless xcept for stunning purpose....BTW he's also weak against massive hp tank
Don't you know that I am the No.1 in the GG-Client games???
4.5 seconds? well, if fissure is not mentioned but if with fissure, it can deal longer stuns...
i wanted to learn how to use this caracter but i hope some one will teach me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you could check out the strategies posted above...
raigor can kill more heroes than sand king in mid game! but it really depends on your build!
and i think you dont have to spend much money in making a refresher orb! its useless when all the creeps dies in your first echo slam! and only 1 or 2 hero remains! go with bkb! or DoE..! guinso for disabling runing heros^_~
best stunner
this hero killss
BoT
HoT
ASSAULT CURRIAS
HoT
ARCANE RING
BLINK DAGGER
1 of the top 5 stunners in DotA.he is well 4 creepblocking but not a herokiller(boring)Buy:Travels,Arcane ring,Blink Dagger........
1 of the top 5 stunners in DotA.he is well 4 creepblocking but not a herokiller(boring)Buy:Travels,Arcane ring,Blink Dagger........
you wanna see the multiple killer??
NEVERMORE is the best.
I apologise to those looking for an item build.
I realised my stupid mistakes and have reconsolodated them.
OK:
*Boots of Speed (to BOOTS OF TRAVEL)
*Arcane Ring
*Blink Dagger
*HoT
*Guinisoo (or Dagon to maximise his hero killing capability)
*Another HoT
You might not get this far but trust me. You will get the kills.
p.s @seifer666, soz you were right
new score though 13- 4
raigor is the true multiple KILLER!!!!!
5 HEROES NEARBY WITH SOME CREEPS?? FISSURE!!!!! ENCHANT TOTEM!! ECHO SLAM!!!! ALL THE MONEY WILL BE URS THEN!!!!
the thing about raigor is he is alot of ppls worst enemys, even says on the guides
hands down Raigor is a multiple killer...
but in exchange of his combo will be depleted mana,means he becomes useless after the combo and if unfortunately his victims survive there is a hi chance of being pawned first...
@17 Uses:
1. BKB 2. blink to enemy (usually big crowds with creeps) 3. Enchant totem 4. Fissure ( angle it, so you can trap a few) 4. Ulti 5. enchant totem 6. refresher orb. 7. enchant totem. 8. fissure. 9. Ulti 10. GG!!!
thats more as retarded. u dont need bkb, skadi nor a refresher lol.. u dont have the mana for that all..
if u 're skilled u gonna backstabish and wait till they gang up i.e. they go middle and u fissure behind em to avoid escaping, meanwhile your gang already nuke em / attack so u can simple blink in spam a echo followed with a enchant , do 1 or 2 attacks then fissure the escaping ones, if still alive (almost impossible lol, then chase him and blink asap, ench and finnish (no need since your u'll gang the shit out of em anyway)
I recommend on him:
rob in early for 24/7 creeping
bot
sheepstick
dagger
bfury
hot
optional:
assault cuirass
or 2nd hot for ~ 1k hp boost
or scepter for ~400+ lifeboost + 800mana boost (unstopable in late game)
damn expensive tho.. only possible with a team who actually are able to gank / teamplay good
**(no need since u'll gang the shit out of em anyway)**
My Item Build for this guy..
1:Ring of Baccilius(optional)
2:arcane ring
3:Kelen's dagger of escape
4:powerthreads
5:refresher orbs
6: Shiva Guards
7:Hood of Defience(optional)
8:Heart
9:Battle Fury
or Monkey King Bar!
ummm, you know you can only have 6 items, right?
u do know he said 2/8 of em are optional right ?
i think this is a CRAZY hero! =p
Multiple killer (Except Jakiro & SandKing) and a stunner! I like thiz guy! =p
The item....
1. Arcane
2. Dagger
3. Vladimir (Optional)
4. Refresher
5. Battle Fury
6. HoT (It's up 2 u)
7. Basher (Optional)
8. Of course.... Treads/Travel
I think this is the best item he can wield
can i hve battle fury 4 ths hero?
can i hve battle fury 4 ths hero?
i think the true spelling of noob is newb... derived from the word "newbie" or "baguhan" in Filipino....
bfury is good with him but he really need mana so go for mana items that are NOT luxury much
I hope aftershock becomes a passive item buff so if ur spells are all active ouch ouch ouch!!
Note: Raigor is a PermaBasher...
I like him in int type build.....
118:
hilarious!!!!permabashing=permanent stunning . SO: void and slardar are permabashers,troll and magina can be permabashers----Raigor is NOTTTTTT!!!!
at the start when ur opponent is pushing you try to use fissure in him near the tower so he will be attacked by the tower for 8 seconds by blocking his way out.
also an MoM would be good. Go near him then activate MoM to create an aftershock leaving him stunned then attack him a few time then use enchant totem to stun him again with your aftershock then quikly use a fissure to block hi way then use your echoslam. If you want you could use your echoslam first while he is with his creeps 4 gold
battle fury????? i dont think so....
raigor is a pure caster and support hero..
this is my item build for raigor:
-arcane ring
-Boots of travel
-blink dagger
-refresher
-linken
-tarass
try it, blink into a huge creep wave and heroes, and use echo slam. if you have refresher, use it and use your echo slam again with enchant and fissure....
and dont be surprise that "Double Kill" or even "Triple Kill" pops up on your screen.....
echo slam is the best skill i think, it can deal a huge damage to your opponent...
To give you an idea of how much damage this skill can do, if Earthshaker blinks into a group of 20 creeps and five heroes and casts a level three Echo Slam, he will deal 1910 damage to everything near him and another 115 to everything in Aftershock’s range. Can you say triple kill?
make him an int type youll be unstoppable
1st refresher euls then kelens yeah
raigor is one of my best heroes....i usually play wit strength heroes...and this guy wicked...if u an energy booster early in the game and complete arcane ring...then u can use fissure after fissure...
this is so annoying for the other heroes, tat ll leave u for a while then u r free for farming....
dont forget ROB in begining..it also helps a lot....
no item build XDXD???
no battlefury for this hero!! ok??
can anyone pls tell me if enchant totem increases the damage of echoslam,or it's just increasing his stat damage?thanks,i would appreciate the answer
this is best build
arcane
batlefury
threads
refresher
tarasq
vladimirs
This is my usual build:
bot - mspd(hes a caster not a dps)
bfury - good w/ bfury(splash KABOOM!!!)
blink - surprise and escape
hot - damage and hp
guinsoo - mana and disable
vanguard - block and hp
Optional:
Arcane(I sell late game)
refresher
mom
vlads
Hes great partnered with luna, yurnero and lich.
echo slam...
eclipse
omnislash
chain frost
result = MASSIVE EXTINCTION
he is a good hero
a good hero for 5v5
great hero but low mana and life
triple kill
beyond godlike
owning
triple kill
beyond godlike
owning
sure
:lol
weak hero
worst hero
I think that...the mana cost for Fissure it's TO MUCH !!!!!!!! he is a STR hero
Many STR heroes need a lot of mana for their spells, dude; othrwise these particular heroes would be imballanced
I understand that dude...but not 170 mana cost...let's say a 130-140 still decent...because of that HIGH mana cost you are forced to buy items with mana or mana recovery (Arcane Ring) , otherwise with that money you could buy something else for a STR hero , an item with HP or HP recovery like Vangurd , I don't say this hero is weak , It's VERY VERY STRONG if you know how to use it properly , thanks for reply Cranium_Basher
You have a point, but you gotta admitt that he farms easily with his enchant totem ( thanks to aftershock ) and fissure, and np dude
Should have called this hero, earthshakey.
i get battle fury and RoB and then tank cuz i nvr run outa mana
until i get a few kills
XD
Man im pretty tired of everyones elaborate builds. its sooooooooo
unrealistic.
Heres a cost effective build:
1.Boots of speed/travel(depending on
2.Vladimirs offering farming rate)
3.HoT
4.Arcane ring
5.Necronomicon 1/2/3 (depending on
farming rate)
So much for being cost effective!
You even forgot about blink dagger...
Here's wad u really nid
1. Arcane ring (mana tapping)
2. Blink dagger (escape/combo)
3. Boots of travel (telepush/ms)
4. refresher (Again.. combos)
5. Heart (late game.. if u got the cash)
6. - (situational)
I've arranged the items according to its priority... but that excludes ur early game bracers and rob. Always get arcane Ring early!!!
Be sensible... he's not ur typical dps hero, Treat him as a skill spammer & excellent support str hero...
Yo lammakilla,
Soz for forgetting Blink. Its
definitely a core item for ES. I strongly disagree with refresher. As great as a double echo slam and a 6 step chain stun sounds, its an unnecessary waste of money which could be spent elsewhere, not to mention that ES can't support all those spells.
Um my build isn't DPS orientated btw.
build (in order):
1.Bracer
2.RoB
3.Bracer
4.BoS
5.Arcane
6.Blink
7.Necro 1
8.BoT
9.HoT
10.Vlads
11.Necro 2
12.Necro 3
Can someone tell me pls witch are the best stunners in DotA and the best creeps blockers ? It's Raigor one of the best creep blocker and stunner in the game ? and it's Raigor a late game hoero ? of a early-mid game hero ? someone pls reply I need help
Can someone tell if this build is good :
1. Treads [For AS and MS]
2. Arcane Ring [Must for Raigor]
3. Vanguard [For HP and HP reg]
4. Tarasque [To become a tank]
5. Cuirasss [AS and armor]
6. MKB [AS and DMG]
so ? It's this good or not ?
@ comment above
its ok but pers is all the mana regen u need
and then tank
how do i counter this hero???
i do:
1) Arcane Ring (must do first)
2) Shiva's
3) Kelen's Dagger (blink dagger)
4) Black King Bar
5) HoT
6) Boots Of Travel
i think it's the best build for this hero..
you blink, shiva's, echo slam, fissure..
GODLIKE. =)
A sniper own him easily with 2 basher and a soul booster or vanguard.
@rafi291:
Use manta/difusal balde against him - without mana he is useless
God of Stunner
arcane ring n refresher will do
trust me
dont forget to get kelens dagger
you can 2k crit with him... buriza(crit), guinsoo(manapool, stats), b-fury(for farming with his 2nd skill, no need for echo slam to take out big creepwaves), sange and yasha(as, ms, dmg, hp), power treads(ms, as), divine rapier(optional, you can 2k crit without divine).. attack sequence is go to center of creppwave w/ hero enchant, echoslam. attack, fissure, enchant, attack... +1 kill for you...
oh, i forgot... hex before 1st enchant...
i know this costs too much,... but the most important parts are the buriza, bfury and the guinsoo...
try it.. just for fun... i got 1991dmg crit with only the first 5 items...
the flaw with this guy is he needs mana and strength (which means if your not a good farmer you not invincible)
thnx Cranium ^^
THis IS oly hero that can disable push in matter of second..once he go in ulti,alll hero can go in help him and gg....if combo with pit lord and tide,it can be easier to kill...
if got es in our enemy,its kinda hard to push...but if u pick the rich hero to disable him,u can easyly push....like u pick VS and silencer...once u swap and silent,and he die..once he die,ur push now is eassier...
My favorite hero........next to stryg of course
i get arcane and spam fissure
i tried him in 1v1
with aftershock all u need to do is fissure, walk up hit once, enchant, hit, ult, fissure and dead
all u need with the char is:
PT
arcane
Lothars
refresher
Dagger
Boot
Bottle
Arcane
Nulls
Guinsoo or Refresher
I L-O-V-E how sfsy1 always replies to Panickiller, leaving his stinging comments, only provoking Panic to start flaming... hahahaha
but, but, but.... (going into a rage bashing the whole place up and leaving nothing unbroken) hehehe... DUDE!!! this site is to make ur opinions b/c u have nothing better to do (like us at work sometimes :P )
I know man.. say, when you gonna give me those ships??
