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Strategies:AI Build Boush posted by nidoking on 2006-05-27Rearm FTW posted by nanometer on 2007-01-19 |
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Limit your discussions to Boush - The Tinker.
Off-topic comments will be deleted.
what does rearm exactly do? resets cooldowns?
Um.. Yeah what does that do?
rearm helps you reset cooldowns. basically say you used march of machines. there you have a 35 sec cooldown. use lvl 3 rearm. cooldown is reset within a second. another example is with items. say you have boots of travel and used it. that a 60 second cooldown. you use lvl 3 rearm. again your cooldown is reset within a sec. so you can have fun and tele in top lane, take care of a creep push(even just one wave), instantly tele to bot lane and take care of things down there. you basically can tele as much as prophet if not more. rearm is his signature move. so don't mess it up. meaning don't move out of the way until the rearm spell is done. i know one to three secs feels like a long time, but just bear with the rearm. it helps in the end.
thats really good then, its better than the refresher orb because the refresher orb has a cooldown too (how ironic) rearm has a quick cooldown too which is surprisin for an ulti
rearm resets all cooldowns for skills and items. but it doesnt work for hand of midas. its like a free, no-cooldown refresher orb.
What does the last skill do?
A powerful nuker if supplied with mana. Work great against hero if you know how to combo.
completely owns, march of the machines, laser (this combo ought to hav killed all the creeps), heat seekn missile then rearm. push a little bit and wait for the next wave of creeps. Arcane ring, soul booster, guinsoo, BoT and HoT.
u can actually turn him to a tank if u buy Black King Bar
this guy needs a nerf. zimbebwei rocks is the gayest noob in the game. Ever done bkb then manta? your images are a goblin with weapons while you are a warlord riding on a tank with lasers.... lol.... JUST GAY!!!
i dont like him...
laser + missile + cyclone + rearm + laser + missile ... boooom! :D wtf activated...
so in another words if had a linkensphere, you can reset the spell block a crap load of times, wow, someone mentioned that meck would be good with tinker, how would that be?
how can i own tinker? its machines sucks...
isnt he kinda useless late game cuz his basic dmg only does about 700 at top
They've recently nerfed the ring and mek so that he can't spam them. (Yes, I realize mek was never "spammable" on its own, but before you could get a buckler and alternate, since the buckler broke the mek aura. They "fixed" that.)
Get him boots of travel. Do NOT under ANY circumstances put points in his ultimate. Three seconds and VERY LITTLE MANA is way, way superior to one second and TONS of mana. Are those two seconds really worth 200 extra mana when you have his mana pool?
This hero may be one of the best there is for getting first blood. Level up laser and missiles. Attack. Laser. When they're running away with low health, fire your missile. First blood.
Always go mid. You can nuke the hell out of anything that breaths, and even heroes that don't. And you can aid in your base just by sitting in your fountain, firing missiles repeatedly, and rearming.
I recommend a Lincoln's for reasons that should be obvious, except when you're up against heroes against whom it makes no sense.
Elf
hey can i rearm a refresh orb?
why would you want to there is no cool down on rearm!!
only skill can be rearmed.. i think
WeaveMyWayIntoYourBase when u bkb then manta u become invulnerable and lose your avatar
rearm works on everything including items like midas cuz it costs lots of mana . ANYWAY MEKA DOES NOT STACK SO U CANT USE IT TWICE U CANT HEAL THE SECOND TIME ( But I think they changed it )
Another One of the heroes i use when i jst wanna have especially in WTF mode
HEAT SEEKING MISSILES.... bwuahaha...
@ n00b, u can rearm items. and since when did boush use midas? he cant use it. lol @ rearm refresher. this hero is the worst to use in WTF mode
@Razyel2340
It depends really.. if he has completely raped you all game, you feed the shit out of him, and your team is a bunch of low hp nukers w/o cash.. then no, he still rapes you late game.
BUT, even if what happens in situation 1 happens when your team has high hp agi's or tanks or ogre magi for example... yes tinker can blows ass late game.
no,I didn't mean to tell you to buy BKB for this guy I just wan't you guys to see him turn into a tank
weak at late game is all i can say.
At early game he is a ganking machine. But late game he can be turned into a super pusher along the ranks of Furion & KOTL. That's how he wins late-game for you.
A good nuker and a pusher, laser, missile is good for hero killing low hp heroes, and march is for pushing...This is wgy the Tinker is one of my favorite heroes....
Generally this is the build for Tinker:
- Boots of your choice
- Arcane Ring
- Linken Sphere
- Guinsoo's Scythe of Vise
- Dagon
- (Final slot is for late game where you can either get items that help your entire team or up your damage some more)
At late game, you can missile, sheep, laser, arcane ring, rearm, missile, laser. That should be a good chunk of damage assuming you have tanks to back you up. You can get a Lothar's Edge if you are worried about getting ganked.
I sometimes even get a Heart of Tarrasque late game...
Tinker's not a very strong hero late game because his moves will get watered down by late game armor/stats so he has to rely on teammates for kills. So use burst damage and disable items to help out. Don't expect to dominate though... Even at 120+ atk (lv. 25) he is still weak against other lv.25 heroes.
Listen, Boush is the best hero support on 5 vs. 5 games, if ur sentinel or scourge, the main battles usually happen in the middle corridor, so all you have to do is stand in the secret shop( if ur scorge) and send March of the Machines and Heat Seeking Missile then rearm, Heat Seeking Missile (T)
then rearm and Heat Seeking Missile (T)
thats a lot of damage for a lot of heros if u have enough mana!
Does Rearm Affect Dominator?
not a late game hero...best for early game..
this guy is hell at early game. laser + missiles + rearm can deal 1k damage in 5 seconds at lvl 7. low HPers beware early game.
i dominated alot of ppl in hamachi wif this hero inculding syallar and morphling they left game cause i got dagon
One of da best heroes if played well ....
I defeated Modread and Razor on a two on one match ......
Went beyond Godlike ......
Dagoon a must for kills
Is there any reason to get lvl 2 and 3 rearm? 350 for a 1 second or 150 for 3 second, doesn't seem to be much better...
I'll have to try this later
Yes, when you have guinsoo and start to push with your team, level 3 rearm is very good for mass hex even if it costs loads of mana, cause that's pretty much all tinker can do late game, and it works well.
Level 1 rearm is simply too slow in team battles, and you won't be able to help your team as much as you could.
You could wait a bit with lvl 2 rearm tho since you won't likely have enough mana/regen at lvl 11-15(normal mode), but when you get guinsoo and possibly linken sphere, lvl 3 rearm is a must.
That's what I imagined... It would be more useful in later game, when the team battles are exploding all arround...
Well, I'm gonna try my luck with it!
I prefer guinsoo (great mana pool.. about 2000+ with other mana regen items) rather than linken on bush.. I believe guinsoo is a must item for him... And DAGON atleast level 2. My combo is (sneak attack).. missile (325 damage), + laser (320 damage), + dagon2 (400 damage), + hex (0 armor).. rearm.. missile (325 damage), laser (320 damage), hex, attack, attack, attack, dagon (400 damage)... rearm.. missile (325) if he's still alive. If you sums that up = Over 2500 damage in one combo!! ouch!!! mana cost is just about 1500 in total.. crazy isn't it?
lol guinsoo. thats actually a really good idea. :D
In AR games, and I random picked an INT hero, I always bring eul scepter in my pocket, when I already used 5 charges, I convert it to guinsoo. It gives you +damage, great mana pool and hex is for escape or for gank. Guinsoo is very useful to int hero bcoz of their less HP.
this heros fuken useless in late game
I like this hero cause it can easily pawn at the very beginning.If you keep on harrasing your opponent theres no chance that he will get good items lately.
@ghettogangsta
no he can own l8 game too
the best build for this guy is
***BoT***
I agree. With that much speed, plus a good set of mana regeneration items, you can just spam your skills like that.
I made the funnest item build for him.
BoT, Linkens Sphere, 4 Void Stones and some sentry wards around the map, the lanes.
During the game I just did this whenever i saw someone approachin (thank u sentry wards).
Rockets, Rearm, Rockets, Rearm (Laser wheneva possible). with the help of 550% mana regen, i found that my mana didn't deplete until after 20 seconds of spammin rockets and rearm
Got massive kills without even trying
maybe converted one of the voidstones into a perseverence and got a soulbooster, to create a bloodstone so i had a larger mana cap + bonus's
The Key items for Tinker are "Manta Style" and "Guinsoo"
These are the items you need to farm/gank for.
I suggest the following build.
1) Ring of Basilius
2) Boots of Travel
the ring of basilius should provide you with sufficient mana to kill and gank in the beginning - if you are running out of mana - but a sobi mask/void stone. But don't spend too much money on mana - cuz you want to get manta ASAP (because its expensive later and harder to get as the enemy gets stronger).
After you have your BOT.
get the following
3) Diffusal blade
4) Manta Style
I recommend holding off on the eulers till after u get the manta. With your increasing levels, you should have enough mana to kill. So there is no point in mana regeneration at this stage (Also, you can always teleport back with rearm and spam Boots of travel).
the next items to get are
5)eulers
6) Guinsoo
now you have your key items. Time to OWN!!!
By the end of the game - you should aim for
1) Boots of Travel
2) Manta Style
3) Guinsoo
the rest of the items are up to you.
I recommend
4) linkens sphere
5) Monkey King Bar
6) soul booster/aghanism
GAME OVER !!!
This hero is a power package.. can kill lina and lion in instant.. haha just use the proper items.. can even kill bradwarden in one combo.. just discover what item to use.. because i know for sure.. tried and tested..
dagon lvl 5, guinsoo's scyhte!
This hero is a hero killer. Just look at the ammount of dmg he can give with such a short cooldown time?!! WTH! I used razor and my fren pawned me 7 times with this hero. I only pawned him twice. T.T
Eul Scepter
BoT
Bloodstone
Guinsoo
Void Stone
(Up to You)
You should have 210% mana regen. 5 Hp regen. I get guinsoo and eul becos it buys time for skills to cooldown. Certainly a painful hero. OUCH!
He is good only early game.Late game he sucks.
i dunno about that late game comment.... everyones pushin, u can harass with rockets and last hit. u can blind with laser and u can wipe out the mega creeps with march of the machines.
he does dominate at mid game though, i wont argue that.
This used to be imba with Manta+BoT+rearm combo... too bad they remade Manta...
Drow Ranger will pwn tinker easy, just silence tinker or get bkb and hes fked easy
ouch! i played a boush b4 playing almost like wtf! he launched 4 heat seaking missiles at ounce.. but i still survived! hehehe!
COMBOS
1. TRAVEL
2. REFRESHER
3. SKADI
4. AGHANIM FOR MANA
5. MANTA / BLOODSTONE
6. 5 LVL DAGON
manta style
BoT
Guinsoo
the only reason u'd get refrsher is if u wanted to reload on the run. otherwise not necessary.
Why not blink dagger on him? would work good I think lol maybe not as needed if you have sheepstick
annoying missles.. INCOMING!! woooosh!! kaboom!!
rearms annoyin, good thing that all the spells hav high mana costs and his gain for intel is a measly 2.2. without his mana hes food.
this guy is insanity
i tells ya
wen u play at custom game orCC(cybercafe)type"-wtf"u will hav no cooldown n manacost so call ur tinker to do heat seeking missile all the time
buy a cro to bi helm of dominatordis ting is swe-eeeeeeet can turn dose creeps n neutral creeps,hand of midas,dagon,necronomicon,assault n mjolnir or bloodstone the cro is your body guard
buy dagon lvl 5 = duel 800damage, then rearm, duel again, rearm, duel, rearm, duel~~~~~~
DIE!
wat is the
item which givs the most mana
coz u will atleast 2350-3025mana
4 jp5077 2 spam his skill like that.
lol, but thinker will surely get holyshit
if he can do that. unless they gb.
so fun in wtf mode
plus permanent guinsoo!!!! rearm ftw
like boush
how bowt on dis one....... wat is the gud bild???????
who ever said that tinker suks late game is completly wrong and needs 2 learn how to play him. likens, hex, manta, dagon, BoT all refreshed what else could u want. i can take 90% of heros 1v1. void, niax and a few others can beat me if i dont gank them early on after i get my BoT and fly across the map 24/7. late game i will push the hell out of the lanes and get RICH BITCH. if u try 2 gank me ill just manta hex dagon hex dagon hex dagon. think about it a free 80% extra DPS and perma hex. OWNED...
many are saying that Boush is a useless and stupid hero, hehe, but i have proved it wrong cause i've been in beyond GOdlike just in lvl 15 with these items:
I started putting boush with a power threads to increas its as and ms, and 5 circlit of nobility, then 2 vanguards to increase its hp regen, and a malestrom. then a desolator to increase its damage, butterfly, and a radiance. try this itemz.
GOOD TIP!!!!!!
When u use march of the machines, clic ground behind u. In this way, goblins will come from behind the ennemies back.
In this way, ennemies wont be able to avoid the goblins as easily.
Dagon 5, rearm, Dagon 5 and laser or heat-seeking missle, my combos!
i try dagon, guinso, and deso n can take down PA and pudge at lvl 25. u should try. laser, bomb dagon then hex then ulti to reset n then use again laser+bomb+dagon again!!!! cool u should try...try add me at ggclient with id ericongq.. huhu
I just built and orchid on Tinker at level 16. All i would do was orchid someone, shoot a laser, missles, then rearm. I aslo had a Euls and shivas, so I had rediculous mana and regen.
Same goes for sheep stick.
hey how do u get refresher orbs
ultimate hero in almost all the game with experience i found out that the ultimate build is: arcane . bot. guinsoo. eye of scady. dagon .shiva's gard.if u loose with such a build u should stop playin dota....
this hero is best for 1 vs 2 situations
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all you need is a big fat mana pool!!!
Try this:
When your opponents are pushing you on your last tower. Stay near your fountain and just stay there while unleashing a number of heat seeking missiles for and rearming it again and again for like no mana cost.
By godwrath_blade 2008-03-17
I tried that, the range isnt long enought
This hero is absolutely unstoppable with the right items. Dagon and sheep stick turns this guy into one hell of a hero killer.
BKB is just for fun. It's so funny to see people go "wtf?" when they see a tank shooting lasers charging at them
does rearm refills items such as hex and soulburn and shiva? if yes... itz lik many secondS of disable/silence+amplifydamage/slow(if u gt enough mana)??? sum1 pls answer pls and thx
what i do is ...
- Boots
- Null Talisman(stats/mana at start)
- Guinsoo`s (void stone early)
- Linken`s Sphere (backup/safety)
- Vanguards x2
im a real protection kind of guy, but if u pwn at the start with kills, level faster then them, then this is a lethal combo...
3 MAIN ITEMS:
Boots Of Travel
Bloodstone
Dagon 5
-Boots of traves is for map control, bloostone is for mana and hp and works with him pretty well especially if have charges and dagon 5 for an added nuke skill
This guys gets his ass kicked by Anti-Mage. Other than that, a Punga + Boush combo rips most heros apart with one massive combo.
March + Decrepify + laser + Nether blast + 2 dagons + missle is pretty much an instant kill on any character other than Magina
lol even magina would be dead then. holy damage!
Factoring in Decrepify and Hero speel resitance, that combo comes out as 2041 damage with lvl1 dagons and pretending that the robotic goblins don't hit.
what item can be bought to make his Heat Seekers stonger. i love this lil dude.this is EXTREAMLY nobish but i got my first win yesterdday with TINKER. and i've been playin DoTA only since last week. soo PLease HELP
For whoever thinks Boush is useless late game, you're wrong. March of the Machines is an insanely good pushing/farming skill. Spamming it with rearm will get your creeps to the enemy base in no time.
Also, rearming linkens really pisses people like lion of, even if they have a refresher.
this is a dog hero..
guinsoo,travel,linken,bottle
great agi ang int hero harasing,
Once u have rearm, u wil fire the laser and missle again, very strong spells.
HAHAHA
Just 1st Blood a Zues while lvl 1, 1st I shot the Laser then suprise with a Dagon, But I lost the whole game, I could not make Gold for Defiance.
This hero it's so funny
I usualy learn the third skill first because u can harass melee enemy hero and pushing the creep.
My item build up for this hero are
Bloodstone
BoT
Shivas Guard
arcane
guinsoo
desolator
cant some1makeanew guide forhim? rly is needed.
Manta seems popular with him these days. Guess i dont get it. What makes it so great on him?
