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Strategies:The Deadly Night Stalker posted by ChainRule on 2007-01-18Mighty Balanar posted by 3dino on 2006-06-24 |
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For Drew: Base STR = 23; Base INT = 16; Base Damage = 47-51; HP = 587; Mana = 208; HP Regen = 0.94; Mana Regen = 0.65; Attack Speed = 1.39; Armor = 5.5 [or 5].
I DONT GET IT !!!!!! WTF IS CRIPPLING FEAR FOR ?!?!?!?!?! I DONT UNDERSTAND
i love balanar !!! void and darkness + hunter in the night rocks !!!
crippling fear is only used during the night and it causes your enemies to miss and unable to cast spells
IMHO, one of the best heroes in DotA. Darkness should be used as soon as night starts, and again in the middle... that way you can make the night last longer, and when day arises, the cooldown´s over. Also, it´s very fun to fly to the middle lane in early and kill the nukers xD
BoT + S&Y + Darkness + Hunter in the nighT lvl 4 = movespeed 522
i wish there was a timer to show u when night was, this guy can hav up to 600 health (with help of radiance, butterfly, SNY, powertreads and EoS with a spell that increases speed). id advise powertreads and crystalys then buriza asap with ur ulti cos ur invincible. i took out like 3 guys with this guy yesterday :D
movement speed not health. my bad
hard to use this hero if there are too many stunners on the opposite team. and BKB seems so far away...
what are you talking ablout it is still easy to use him. You must just suck at Balanar
this is one of the best heroes in the game because of the movement speed, buy a basher and guinsoos if ur afraid of stunners.
max MS is 522 noob
stfu n00b, its already been discussed that it is 522. at the time i was just guessin cos i didnt know the max speed
When it's late game and this guy starts turning it into night all the time find yourselves a lane buddy. Otherwise there is no catching up to him or killing him.
would dis be a good build for an offensive balanar?
1.basher
2.basher
3.treads
4.Heart
5.treads
6.sange&yasha
three basher,a heart,threads r best for her-killing.
sorry ita 'hero'
sorry its 'hero'
id replace PT with refresher at near end game, natural darkness, ulti, refresh, ulti
so...3 bashers...HoT..treads...refresher?
aint dat a bit expensive???
yeah its expensive, but c'mon balanar is one of the best hero-killer during night and during the day u can just farm.
is battlefurry ok?.. i use it before anything else.. it really helped me a lot.. then S&y bashers ..
what item do i prioritize in the begining game (1 vs 1)
buy treads then what item should i buy next???
it's not the best strategy but i saw someone do this when a guy left. he grabed the agi guy's bracer things(+6 agi +3 rest) and ended up with about +42 agi total and atacked really fast. this could be coupled with the other skill he has and it might make a halfway decent hero. what do you think?
what item do i prioritize in the begining game (1 vs 1) buy treads then what item should i buy next???
Im sorry to tell that balanar the night stalker is suposidly it's name..
the creator announced that this is balanar's true name..
balanar the killing machine..
One of the easiest heroes to use in DoTA, imo. His void is terrific for early and mid game, though the damage doesn't make much of a difference in late came. I love it when a plan comes together!
2x cranium basher and sange and yasha.. har har
use crippling fear on jarakal at night his rampage almost wont hit you hehehehe
2 cranium bashers arent particularly necessary, sure it increases ur damage dealt and stun chance, but id put a buriza or desolator there somewhere for critticals or more damage cos of desolator added damage plus reduced armour
great killer but no match for dalam'hati
what if you combine deso,buriza,and2xbashers
my build would be PT, Buriza, Basher, Deso, MoM and Refresher. got everything there, more damage, criticals, stuns, reduce armour, increase attack and movement speed and to go all out refresher = x3 more darkness
I think these are the list of his item:
-Power thread
-heart
-sangeyasha
-Buriza
-Satanic
-MKB
Lupeman is a stupid,
"Eat my shorts lupeman"
balanar is no match with vengeful spirit.
You can't have MOM and Deso because they are orb effects.
This is such a BS hero. One of the easiest to use in games, but 35% extra movement speed is a bit much.
u dont actually want the MoM for the lifesteal ya n00b, only for increased attack speed, but with the new recipes out, i guess u can replace it with bloodstone
Sange and Yasha + Basher = 20% chance stun.
Just recently I played 6.43b and I randomed NS. I got 2 gaunts 2 circlets branch and clarity pot as beginning, making bracers for hp AND mana (mana being the key thing here) for double voiding when you hit level 7/8. Also, never get ns's ult at level 6. You're better off getting skills that improve your night.
At endgame, I had BZK, Battlefury, Satanic, Divine Rapier, 2x aegis(from soloing roshan 3 times: I died once stupidly), and treads. It was pretty fun
i think you dont need refresher... ROFL
is MOM good for him?? it shld make him super fast moving and attacking char at night, or does it not work?
i play like this
1.power tread
2.sanga % yasha
3.vladimirs
4.buriza
and if game goes on
5.HoT
6.basher
this is my ideal items
1.powertreads
2.monkeykingbar
3.divine rapier
4.radiance
5.satanic
6.heart of tarrasque
roshan can't damage me with these items!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes... MoM is A nice item for him..
Crazy, I can own 5 average players 1v5 with this hero.
this banana is too great...
hurmm will this make good banana(balanar)??
1. battle fury
2. monkey king bar
3.power thread
4. linken sphere
5. cranium basher
6. the butterfly
@lupeman when you're carrying more than one of the same item, they all go into cooldown when you use it. so 3 refreshers = bad idea
Unless the x3 darkness you were referring to was ult+natural nighttime+refresher
i didnt suggest 3 times.... Natural, Ulti, refresh, Ulti. its not really necessary but if u wana get the game u could probably solo for a duration of 4 minutes
my personal way of using balanar is to increase his speed hes already fast but make him faster
1. power treads
2. Bracer (usualy you should have this around lvl 6 or 7 for the added health and mana)
3. satanic
4. buriza
5. basher
6. basher
satanic is a must with his incredible attack speed everything else is just for added dmg
This is one kick-ass hero when he has good items. Just add:
Cranium Basher
Boots of Travel
Hyperstone
HoT
Satanic
HOD
There, good eh?
BoT is useless at nighttime as MS maxed at night
i agree don't waste money just buy powertreads instead
what should i do during the day when drkness is on cd??
how to do to see wich item he are best with?
night stalker can be the most dangerous hero in early game and also late game. A number of hero kills early game will give you great items late game. Master his void early game and you will own.
here are the items you need to own with him.
Boot of Travel or Treads both are good
Radiance for his creeping at day because he is slow
briza+hyperstone will make you own at night, and finally get him a divine or mkb depends on the situation, i prefer divine last because ns needs great amount of damage to own late game, once you have those it's GG
also remember to get this guy a satanic then just enjoy the power of NS!!!
Crippling Fear is heavily underestimated. with lvl 1 void and lvl 1 fear, at nighttime, u can slow enemies for total of 13 seconds when these 2 skills r at lvl 2.
and why would u care if u can slow a hero for 13 seconds if u hav crazy high ms anyway? well u can take on two heroes quite easily, assuming ur lvl 11 and u got one cranium basher and its nighttime, u keep one of the enemies (preferably melee heroes) permaslowd while u keep the other one permabashed.
as the melee guy cant do anything cept attempt to run away or assist but move at extremely slow speeds, he will be killed cos u will permabash his afta ur done with his first friend. avg time to kill a hero if they r permabashd = 12 seconds maybe
i have few questions for you lupeman.first that why would you get basher for ns? even we know this guy's AS at night but because he just dominates at night, we dont need a basher, even you can permantly stun your enemy. not that it is uselss, it's just that it is no need, get a buriza and hyperstone will get the job a lot fast and also useful in day.
an other thing is that fear is not as good as u described. because in my situations i wouldn't go kill two heros at same time even you level 11 because when two heros have their stuns and abilites kicking in, you would most likely to run away and even maybe died. i dont know which two heros are you talking about but as ns i really prefer of killing one at night and make sure no one is around even ns is tough.
but i am saying fear is totally uselss because against clinkz it's perfect, fear and void and keep attacking him, and it's doesn't matter if he wind walks because you have fear on him and you can still see him, and with his tiny hp you can kill him easily. keep that in mind
*third paragraph i mean fear is not totally useless. sry correct me
Everyone has there strategy. I like to challenge myself nowadays, if I have a tank hero, I will solo 1v2 if they dont have slow/stun/immobilising abilities.
ur strategy is to deal as much damage as fast as possible whereas my strategy is to get as many kills without takn as much damage as possible. If i wanted to, i couldve replaced basher with satanic and buriza so i maintain the high hp
also, basher is cheaper than buriza (or crystalis) and hyperstone combination. this will provide u with some earlier ganks than farming for the buriza.
if i were to challenge u with nightstalker only match, i would start my killing at early/mid game, whereas u would start killin mid/late game (pricey build means delayed killing)
lupeman get your ns two bracers early game will do the job, then get ns either a s&y or radiance or what even you prefer because ns is overpowered early game, specially with two bracers, with two bracers you have more mana so you can cast void as many times as possible, and also your damage and your hp would go up lot for early game. i do my killing in early game too, because ns can be either overpowered or underpowered, that is just the way ns works. lupeman you told me that your strategy is to kill as many without being damaged, and i dont know what would basher do to success your goal, i know basher is cheap, but if you r not going for permanently bash, normally i dont recommend getting bashers, because when you think about it, it's 3K baby.
Again lupeman, ns is overpowered early game, that is why it's important to use that advantage, so try to get two bracers first and save up for your items late game, because 1 basher is just not going to anything.
BALANAR is one of my favorites.Kinda like Abaddon
Battlefury,Mechansm,Vladmir,Ptreads,
Heart of Tarrasque,Sange Yasha
Great rusher!!! If ignored enemy won't realize when you reached their base
this hero, when rightly used is simply amazing. build sange yasha and eye of skadi, then heart of tarrasque and you are officialy invencible. if u can build the butterfly then
yea... YOU get SnY and EoS to the hero who has maxed MS and extremely high ASPD at nighttime which makes it impossible to escape him.
I love how people say "Whyd you get a refresher for? its n00b!" and then i end up killin everyone cos i hav Boots of Travel and tele to enemies to pick them off while givin myself 3 minute darkness.
hes a god at night and a killer at day hes
the deadly champion he is.................. balanar- The night stalker
good build:
basher
basher
Mask of Madness (MoM)
BoT
and linkens (if you can) then its GG
or sometimes id use a blink dagger instead of a linkens you pik
First buy power tread then s&y then buy a basher and then a hyperstone...
woah, just used this hero for the first time and i was 15-1. a good hero, unless faced with a team full of disablers. bkb suggested if that happens. i'd personally stay away from multiple bashers 'cause they use up too many slots and reduce the amount of attack speed and damage items you could get instead.
i would not suggest tryin to challenge naix at nighttime when both of u hav dual bashers and u hav a MoM... u will not win.
actually you can...just run around him till his avatar runs out 
This guy sucks at putting on make-up
Naix is faster than you, even at nighttime. and if u get bite once by him, u get slowed as well.
There's a one time that i've used batman..
and our enemies haven't shown them selves even if the nights end..
i think there a bunch of dimwits
BALANAR KICK ASS!! he is so strong especially if combined with butterfly at night together with cripling fear...
its almost like he is hard to target.
The Most IDIOTIC INSANE PLAYER I've ever seen... I PWN him with ABADDING...
The Most IDIOTIC INSANE PLAYER I've ever seen... I PWN him with ABADDING...
darkness cooldown = 240/210/150
..."
SILENT_YET_DEADLY, plz READ the spell and u might understand
early game.....
2 bracers
treads
mid game....
2 bracers
treads
sange yasha
late game...
treads
sange yasha
2x vanguard
radiance
skills
take skill 1 n 3 at first till the skill has maxed
den take skill + and darkness
and then the rest to the silence one....
hmmph i need more suggestion
well i'm not really good at creeping
ok. bots + nighttime gg 519 ms. noone wants to waste 3000 on a useless orb effect and an extra 3 ms. plz dont b newb and get sny. bashers (at least one) and satanic r a must. then depends wat ur vsin u can get vangaurd, hood, bkb, etc. heart is optional too. more damage and hp regen. GET BRACERS EARLY!
but i thought buyin cranium depends on the opponents..if the opponents are venge,centaur n other disbler such as silencer then i'm dead... i thought balanar is good when the HP is huge...oooh yea if balanar vs pudge...balanar will get owned... soo the thing is how do i kill those kind of heroes???? sorry man i'm still a noob...with balanar
I've played this hero quite a few times and believe this build would do just fine for him,which is relatively inexpensive as compared to some of the other suggestions.
Power Treads
Cranium Basher
Cranium Basher
Satanic
Assault Cuirass
Monkey King Bar
i usually get this item build for balanar
PT, Mask of Madness, Basher, Basher, Butterfly and buriza
if im ownin, ill buy a Refresher (the refresher is only a fun item), the mask of madness is mainly to get first blood, u wont need it late game, but it still proves useful.
Hi guys Balanar is 1 of the best STr heroes and Melee i have ever played...
get items 4 him according to this
start with 2 Bracers a power treads and then get Satanic and then S&Y and then a Basher... thats it the enemy is already over
and finally ur wish a Gunisoo or Refresher
SnY wont stack with satanic
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Good Charachter....Use 2 Bashers,Power treads,Sange and Yasha,Heart Of Tarasque,Battle Fury(Up to you)
Lycan is one hero tat can stop NS in both early and late game
heh, once i was soloing with sb, and he kept perma bashing, so i got 4 bashers, mask of domn and treads..and night, wow i attacked rapidly and he was getting stunned like every hit
@ mariso basher balanar / baratrum is excellent one of the best bash combo heros. but what some people dont no is that bash skill and only up to 2!! bashers stack so if u have void/SB 25% + 15% +15% = 55% chance to bash
if u have 2 bashers on balanar 15% +15% = 30% chance
if u have 3 bashers the strength and damage carry over but the bash doesnt so it would be 3 bashers is 15% +15% + 0% = 30% chance to bash so having more than 2 bashers is rally a waste
Anyone know what hero counters Balanar? I can't find anyone who can give him a good fight. I've tried a bunch of hero's and the only one who stands out a bit is rikimaru but even he eventually gets owned.
Try Necrolyte with refresher-2 hits Deathpulse-Ult-hit-Ult
(I did it some days ago)
does BAlanar Stand a chance against magina??
It depends on the items that they have, and whether is is night or day
What Are the most idEaL itEms 4 BalaNAr???
I know it depends on the situation or enemies but what are the most essential items 4 balanar?
What is nightskalker's weakness?
I really need to know. I'm having a -apemscas 2 vs 2 match with my friends. So someone pls tell me.
IMO, Alchemist still can win Balanar at night. Get a lothar for Alchemist. Get Basher, MoM, 2 Blade Mails and BoT. Owned Balanar . But Alchem have to be good in farming.. =X
its nice,,, i agree with your items,,,, thats really ultimate
Alchemist??? which one is that?
sorry..
i have'nt come across a hero or/and a strategy to take NightStalker down.. can anyone contribute...
guyz its reaaaaly not that hard to kill ns. i have killed ns with almost every hero in the game. and yes lot o people were noobs but i beat pro night stalker players........one with barathrum (im pro with him) and the other with rogue knight.
naix can beat him in darkness, so can bloodseeker, probably most decent healthed agility heroes with high dps and evasion.
Well Balanar for max killing have to look like this :
1.power treads
2.sange&yasha
3.satanic
4.buriza do kyanon
5.2 x cranium bashers
no one can stand against him!!!!
conclusion:GOD LIKE!!!!!!
:)
^naix with the exact same build can beat balanar
Naix with half of this build can beat Balanar
I've seen it
who the ****ing hell is better naga or night??????!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
who the ****ing hell is better naga or night??????!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
Do u guys think that saladar can beat this
guy? I mean u see his HP isn't that high, the only thing thats high is his armor. Maybe with saladar's ulti, he can beat this guy. Correct me if i am wrong pls.
slardar will lose at nighttime
If Slardar gets a healer on his team or engages ns with full health then he should win considering the fact that he has his ulti
Bash + dmg amplify
Harsh
Counter with blade mails (x2)

wowsers! Ok i've seen over a hundred types of builds on here and noone seems to want to agree with the best build for this character they just all seem to put their own......what ive gathered so far is most people agree with satanic, S&Y, and 2 cranium bashers.....a couple suggested MoM and HoT....so would
Power Treads
Satanic
2 Cranium Bashers
and Radiance be ok?
or instead of radiance maybe S&Y?
The best Hero ever, lmao, but dunt get Radiance for this dude, its simply useless.. its not like you can't chase hero, you are able to catch up with them, i prefer PT, SnY or just sange, depends on how you do, buriza, santanic, then go for a defensive if you aint doing that great, but usually, night stalker gets around 4 kills first nite, easily.. therefore, nobody can compete, i usually get all atk... or another choice is the perma bash, which i dunt like, but its u guys' choice
sorry for double post, but btw, basher does stacks, its just not useful to get more than two
counter for balanar?
Viper - slows movement and attack speed using his Poison Attack and Viper Strike + Corrosive Skin to negate nukers and harassers
Zeus - makes Balanar wanna shout "Ouch!" because of some Lightning Bolts thrown at him followed by an irritating Thundergod's Wrath
Lycanthrope - use Shapeshift and bring some wolves to the party for a kill
Syllabear - double the trouble with his Spirit Bear
Rexxar - quick attack speed for continous harassing and Primal Roar for a killer blow followed by Wild Axes to make Balanar bleed
Any Hero Possibly canNOT kill Balanar at night...They can kill if they are naix or kele king.......But that also depends on the item build and oh........Balanar is NOT noob friendly...Remembered myself when I Randomed him T_T"
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Balanar is my lovely hero when battle with my teammates of RK team...
from: n!ghTm@r3
when using Balanar..try to build..Treads into BOT..Satanic..2 Battle Fury..MKB..fiNALLY if u rich..build God of Divine Rapier..
from: n!ghTm@r3
"Don't Waste my Time"
from: n!ghTm@r3
Balanar is awesome. I went Beyond Godlike one time I used him and nobody was able to kill me. What should I first buy when the game's 5 on 5? With that amount of gold I can barely buy something for a kill. We usually use Tango of...whatever... is that advisable??
the first guy who i thought would be a great counter for this guy is PANDAREN??coz balanar will surely just miss..but i was wrong the 2nd skill of pandren only lasted 7sec thats why it didnt took long before balanar pawned me to death..
but for those who think balanar is unbeatable you are surely wrong...just disable this guy hes useless..some one like LION or RHASTA or any permabasher..but for me the strongest counter for this guy would be TINY>>>heheheh (craggy exterior) so what if balanar attacks so fast he'll just get stunned more..heheheh.. .
Lupeman, you are a moron. Stop posting please. You only post senseless topics and it annoys the crap out of me..
i would lik to hear comments about this set up. treads and SnY for att and ms 521 enough no need to buy bot just to get 522. then one basher to make sure that they wont be able to scape even tho u got void. then stanic life steal and hp comes in handy. if games goes 4 too long as in late 50 mins up buriza for crits always comes in handy.but my last item used to be curias for more ias and def but i changed my mind i think buttefly even tho u wont get much dmg from it 30% miss plus ur 40% fear miss will make my ns nearly imposible to beat 1v1 by nearly ne1
i like to noe wat u ppl think
i would lik to hear comments about this set up. treads and SnY for att and ms 521 enough no need to buy bot just to get 522. then one basher to make sure that they wont be able to scape even tho u got void. then stanic life steal and hp comes in handy. if games goes 4 too long as in late 50 mins up buriza for crits always comes in handy.but my last item used to be curias for more ias and def but i changed my mind i think buttefly even tho u wont get much dmg from it 30% miss plus ur 40% fear miss will make my ns nearly imposible to beat 1v1 by nearly ne1
i like to noe wat u ppl think
um im just asking...would lothars edge, would that be any good on balanar? the windwalk and movement bonuses will allow NS's stealth and ganking to be unmatched. wot does everyone else think?
i tryed usin lothars but i recon that lothars are just mainy used to scape and i dont think ns needs it with BoT or with PT with sny he got ax speed so he doesnt need the extra speed cos he'll get none, the gankin part sounds reasonable but i dotn think he needs it cos he doesnt have and ult lik nevermore that needs cast time so i recon ill be useless beta to spend the money and space for hp or dmg
alright cheers buddy
@ 100pct_skillz
too bad, deal with it.
Mask of Madness... Makes NS a daytime killer and stronger nighttime killer
DOOMdezire, are you kidding me?
zeus can be the easiest target and it seems like you never use NS's 2nd skill
lupeman u may be right he gets nice bonuses from MOM but his void doesnt slow and fear only last 4 secs and ony gives 10% miss which is not that great.
so its not that great if u ask me
hmmm, so do we get MoM for Balanar or not? lol at night if he chases too much he might just die too. i got ganked
i personaly woulndt get it just because
that space couldnt be occupied by somethin else which could help ns more
i keep getting called a noob for getting S+y early game and satanic late game....whats wrong with that!?
theres nothin wrong wif that on the first night if u kill 3 ppl i get sange ezz then u farm 4 the day and next night u got SnY and prob helm of dominator besides maim and ms that gives out helps alot in eary game to chase and get kil so SnY owns eary game
jeez wats with the bashers ..lol u realize how little 15% a bash is rite..and money could be spent on other stuffff
Love balanar very powerful void 335
basher is anoyin 4 ne1 its just way to be sure that ull get the kill or even to negate an enemy to teleport or cancel channein spells just works :P
so were is the skill builds?
Own them all! HELL YEAH!!!
hmm...
cranium basher
cranium basher
sange and yasha
heart of tarrasque
assualt ciuriass
powertreads(str or agi)
this build is beast for balanar:
BKB
Vladimirs
SnY
Radiance
Str Treads
Buriza
i got 30-3 with this build
@killaholicxd
Your NS is not a chaser haha. getting a BKB instead of any MS. the whole point of NS, as far as im concerned, is a chaser, who wouldn't let anyone escape. With you getting your power treads so late, you probably die many times trying to escape with your pitiful 295 movement speed when not night. You will be a pray in the morning, an okay hero at night, but still. dunt get BKB that early, if you are getting it at all
There are no definite build, of course. depends on your enemy, wat you should get, but most of the times, i never really use BKB for him. and guess what?, it is never that vital. Hey, you got crippling fear, got what i mean?, silence them, pssh, those puny nukers, gets owned within 5-8 seconds, (the duration of the skill)at least, i played him, the last 20 times, i always get the most kills, despite the fact that i dunt always win, mainly cuz one person wudn't make that much difference in a multiple player atmosphere. Anyways, BKB, in my opinion, is not a VERY good option for him, you could always spend ur money elsewhere
With his incredible movement speed, you ain't really afraid of getting nuked badly, you got high hp high armor. WOW, speed, what can i say, they nuke u once, ur hp say.. down to 100, b4 they had time to react to use the second nuke, they are miles away from you.
As for cranium basher, it is always good, but the question is to what extend? OK, i have to admit, basher is not bad on NS, but the thing is, 15% for 3000+, 27.5% or so stun rate for 2 bashers, 6500?, You could get a sange and yasha and a power tread with that money, with your 521 movement speed at nite, its all good. Basher is also VERY space consuming, 2 slots for basher?, i rather get a santanic and a buriza or whatever u feel like the environment at that specific game requires you to get. But of course, if you are one of those perma-basher freak, get a basher for this guy. haha. but seriously, 521 speed at nite, + void, usually, enemy speed be less than half of urs (260 or less). u just chase hit chase hit. and Nop, no stun required. But of course, this is provided that you are not a noob, and can last hit well and dunt go base too often, = decent level and items.
Huh?, you are afraid of getting ganked?, Well, i thought you are the one that suppose to be "stalking" people and ganking and pwning their asses. ya thast rite. get a sentry or something if u r really that afraid, or if your allies has say.. Nuerubian Weaver?, very good. if you get ganked, why not utilize ur 521 speed, seriously?, who can outrun you, a 522 speed dude?, wow, now that is rare, and please tell me how long does it take for a 522 to catch a 521, lets see, if you guys are 1 second difference, its about 8 minutes of running he will be able to get u. why not use void to slow him?
Oh, you r bullshitting, Rhasta Lion friggin Vodoo/hexed me, im friggin sheep, how am i suppose to escape, then i get stunned by 4 other people. Well, if that is the case, 5 on 1?, i dunt see how any hero has any chances. And where are your teammates?,
If that still doesn't work for you. cuz those works for me well, but if they dunt work for you, just think this then "oh, this is a game, if i gank them sometimes, they get to gank me back, or they will get too depressed, getting pwned by NS too much" but of course, this requires just a bit of expereince in dota, when your teammates calls in for help on ganking, help them, if u didn't do too well, dunt count on night stalker always be able to kill everyone at nite
For those of you that thinks he can be easily beaten by people, LIke Zeus?, i was like, WTF?, before he can piss his thunder at you, his face is eating dirt.
Ok, scratch that if you are a noob and the zeus is played by an expert.
However strong i think Balanar is, it mostly depends on each player's skill level. seriously, any hero can beat the other, it all depends on the person that is controlling him/her or.. it.
Having said all that, i hope these helps you guys in understanding how he works, he is a guy who can get 20-0 relatively easy, but the bad thing about him, oh damn, i always am the first target to get ganked haha, they will do 3 on 1, oh well, but i guess thats dota, but i managed to escape most of the times, if i can't beat 1 on 3 hahaha.
Ok, i kinda went on a bit more. Lot more than i wanted, but anyways, Balanar rules, and he is my fav hero!
p.s for u guys, if against perma-basher, they are dangerous late game, pwn their tiny asses in beginning.
Thank you guys for reading my super long comment.
nice cooment cloud yui
u can kill pudge wit tis hero....when he rots just use 2nd skill on him
u can kill pudge wit tis hero....when he rots just use 2nd skill on him
u can kill pudge wit tis hero....when he rots just use 2nd skill on him
u can kill pudge wit tis hero....when he rots just use 2nd skill on him
u can kill pudge wit tis hero....when he rots just use 2nd skill on him
u can kill pudge wit tis hero....when he rots just use 2nd skill on him
u can kill pudge wit tis hero....when he rots just use 2nd skill on him
the most absolute BS,
got holyshit in 12 minutes.
wtf....
bro balanar is a stright hero killer! i end game in 20 mins.... o.0... they all got PISSD!... 2 tripple kills and 14-1
Movespeed isn't maxed out at night, so:
BoT
2x Cranium
MoM or SnY
Heart
(One item depending on situation)
imo, ppl who pick ns in games aren't any good at other heroes that require skill, such as pudge. that goes for clinkz razor stealth assassin viper and drow.
oh and skeleton king. my god he has the cheapest ulti, u can beat him with a manta style though, or other mana burn.
i would lik to hear comments about this set up. treads and SnY for att and ms 521 enough no need to buy bot just to get 522. then one basher to make sure that they wont be able to scape even tho u got void. then stanic life steal and hp comes in handy. if games goes 4 too long as in late 50 mins up buriza for crits always comes in handy.but my last item used to be curias for more ias and def but i changed my mind i think buttefly even tho u wont get much dmg from it 30% miss plus ur 40% fear miss will make my ns nearly imposible to beat 1v1 by nearly ne1
i like to noe wat u ppl think
No need refresher,too damn noob,better buy damage o life item..
My CrapPy LiTTlE GuIlDe
>>WorKs 4 Me
My CrapPy LiTTlE GuIlDe
>>WorKs 4 Me
this man eats every intel and almost all agility heroes for dinnertime
i had a HoT, PT, two bracers and was working towards Buriza 19min into the game... haha and then the host custom kicked me and banned me cuz i had a score of 26-1 hehe, I know i was cked cuz i can host my own games (but i nvr do). I am honered to be on such a nub host's Banlist, lolz. Wish i couldv saved the replay omg
Balanar is so annoying at night!
How do i kill him 1v1 day OR night?
the only way balanar can be killed at nihgt may be by gankin wif at least 2 stuns or disables if not he can just run away 1v1 he may be killed by perma stuners such as void or trol but in most cases fear can own them both mines can own ns if hes on haf health meh i guess hes not invinsible but hes close enough
he cant beat panda if panda has maxed out drunken haze/bowler just a tipp ;D
ye i guess panda is another not to mess wif char but wif the right gear and fearing him first before he cast can get the panda kill easily or if worse comes to worse ask someone to gank him
power treads
satanic
sange & yasha
assault cuirass
buriza-do kyanon
heart of tarrasque or butterfly
what a build?
satanic and sange & yasha these items are orb effect only satanic will be used and s & y will be useless.
power treads
satanic
sange & yasha
assault cuirass
buriza-do kyanon
heart of tarrasque or butterfly
thats one of the strengthheroes i LOVE
the purpose of S&Y is to give ns 521 ms at night and attack faster if maim doesnt work cos of satanic it doesnt bother me cos i got void which is as good
I just opened up a game with a triple kill at like 10 minutes, and they all left.
Imbastalker imo.
lol ns tends to do that
last time i used this hero, at level three i just killed techies
haha
!!! first Blood!!!!!!!
can anyone tell me wats the best build for tis guy?
yesterday i killed 5 heroes in the first night
damn cool
lol funny story: polayed ns yesterday by the end of the first night i was lvl 17 and had 13-0 kills then afta that they begged e to finish the game
lol
@repiola were u playing noobs since they should no better than to die to you 13 times in a span of 10 min. thats pratically 3 deaths each =/ (did u hack the gameor something?) and level 17 less than 20 min. into the game i doubt that. if this really occured post a replay because im sure alot of people would love to see something like that [if you really did pull that off MAD PROPS YO!]
aight i will i think i saved it
zzz i didnt save the replay i saved the game i can still show u that i was 17 and had 13-0 but i cant show u the whole replay
1. BoT
2. Sange an Yasha
3. Satanic
4. Heart of Terrasque
5. Heart of Terrasque
6. Assault Curaiss
I used this build last night ina LN game and went 23-0
y would u get bot and sny on the same built thats just noob with treads and sny u get 521 ms which is more than enought to chase ne1 another thing 2 hearts and a satanicwat was that 5k hp wat for lol u dont need that much. i got nothin against curias its a decent item but i think u should off swap one of the hearts for somethin lik buriza or rad or somethin
hey wat is HoT ? Can I use it 4 balanar ?
HoT is heart of tarrasque n u can use on ns but in my opinion satanic is ore effective on ns
FUCK THE WORLD AND WAR CRAFT
Balanar's picture do not stuit his powers....he looks like a clown in his pic!
2x basher and MKB for this hero is sooooooo coooooL!!!!., try it!,
Power threads
a Vanguard
2x Cranium Basher
MKB
bow.,
THIS ONE IS THE BEST HERO I SSAID!!
Quite an easy build 4 this hero because of his MS. Focus on that but also his damage and HP lvl.
*S&Y for his MS.
*Treads (definite, not BoT )
*Helm of Dominator
(Just farm after this)
*Basher
*Reaver
*Gr8 recipe for Satanic
*Maybe if game not over go for BKB 2 enhance his STR capability and quick dominance.
Ownage build
PT
Vladimirs
S&Y
Vanguard
MKB
HOT
my built
PT
Basher
SnY
Santanic
Buriza
Bfly
huhu..someone help me?i m newbie here..i promise my friend to one on one versus dota n he wan to use life stealer n i use night stalker..i really strange wif tat hero.."life stealer"..any strategy for me to beat him?item built n way..share wif me pls?
check the strategies use only ur first and 3rd skill alongside with ulty and take 2 bashers treads satanic heart of tarrasqe and assault cuirass
GOOD LUCK
thx for ur opinion..
erm..but in early game should i chase him or evade him?cox i duno which is stronger leh..
ns is my favorite hero in all of dotA, one cuz during daytime he takes skill to use and nighttime u hunt for heads ^^, no one can top him at night cept void
balanar got killed by ulfsaar at night on one game i played lol
Chase him only at night but dont be greedy,if u see that his lifesteal is better than ur hits run.At night ur movement speed is extreme.
Yah. At night u can Own his ass with night stalker. He is probably one of the most powerful hero i used. i never lost using him before.^^
My build is
Sange and yasha
Power threads
Vladimirs Offering
Basher(opt)
Assault curiass
..Thats almost all.
if got more money can buy Battlefury or Mkb . i prefer Battle fury as it enhances mana regeneration. The only way to counter night stalker is to use Stunners or slowers .lol
Man you are speaking in team battles.He wants 1v1.Against this Naix bashers are NOT optional and he needs lifesteal.So take satanic.That all
My build for Balanar are:
-Power Treads
-S&Y
-Satanic
-Buriza
-(optional)I usually get Butterfly o_O, yes I know it's a Agility thing. But It's better than cuiras(i think). it adds 60% atk spd(Butterfly wins, 30 Agi,30% atk spd),Butterfly gives damage(Butterfly wins),Armor(AC wins),and the most important(for me), EVASION!
-(optional)I usually get basher or MKB, but if I need more HP, I'll go for a HoT.
Satanic and s&y dont stack perfectly....balanar needs bashers and cuirass not butterfly.......
buterfly is the best thing 4 late game 4 ns because it stacks wif fear so it makes it nearly imposible to be beaten 1v1 i recon no even naix can take him on at night wif fear and and butterfly but thats just me do as u please
As soon as i pick Balanar, i would get one bracer followed by a Tango of Essifation. I would then farm until the first night going solo. Just before it turns to night the first time i would run back to base and get another bracer and boots of speed. I would then begin to save up for a Battlefury for cleave then a Sange and Yasha. I would then sell my Bracers and get boots of travel and a Satanic. Next i would get a Cranium basher and finally i would get a Heart to finish it off. It would eventually look like this:
1. Boots of Travel
2. Battlefury
3. Sange and Yasha
4. Satanic
5. Cranium Basher
6. Heart of Tarrasque
Has anyone told you that s&y and satanic dont stack perfectly?Your chance of maim is reduced to 5%- and you will miss some lifesteal hits.I usually get assault cuirass as a luxury when no one from my noob team has got.I there is one already i get butterfly.
just cheap and noobish but if u want 2 be a noob buy S&Y 4 him with perserverance and 2 basher:)
hey difusal blade wld work very fine with him.....
specially vs int. heros...
no escapin fm him......
very easy to play and a real int heroe killer....
a big negatif thing is you are the most hated heroe in the game and be ganged for many times...
OMG dota must of wanted this character imba
I think this hero is the MOST IMBA HERO IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE GAME!!!!!!!!!!
Power Treads
Sange and Yasha
2*Cranium Basher
Butterfly
HoT
Aegis-Vladimirs
N00bs
what thing blanar need????
this is probably the strongest hero in dota when it is night and item build:
1-power treads
2-sange and yasha
3-vladmir(not optional)
4-heart of tarrask
with S&Y and power treads and hunter in the night 521 -ms !
my build is
Treads
Bracer
HoD
2xBashers
Vanguard
is that a good build
crippling fear is used at night its basically like silence and it also makes them not able to stealth
your build Jlovitz is not good
except for the basher my build is comment 218
my fave hero!
power treads
basher
basher
sny
buriza
valds
GG!
nobody fears the nightstalker durring the day:P
ye but he can turn day into night wheneva he wants :P
my favourite!
bos/tango
treads until its 7:30 gametime
night: hero hunting
next morning: buy vlad and hunt neutral creeps, if sange rdy buy 2 bracer and go hero hunt, finish to SnY
midgame: PTS/SNY/BASHER/BASHER
lategame: either butterfly for gfg IAS/EVADE or hot if u need to be the tank or hod if many magic opponents or bkb if a lot of disable =)
also a helm of dominator build is possible but since it has orb effect, your 16% chance to maim to opp (slow) wont work, which is necessary to kill FAST heros (16maim/30%bash)
very weak hero in early game too, mostly massive harrased, ganked and if u gank at day u'll be the first who got disabled/pwned ;(
[Quote]As soon as i pick Balanar, i would get one bracer followed by a Tango of Essifation. I would then farm until the first night going solo. Just before it turns to night the first time i would run back to base and get another bracer and boots of speed. I would then begin to save up for a Battlefury for cleave then a Sange and Yasha. I would then sell my Bracers and get boots of travel and a Satanic. Next i would get a Cranium basher and finally i would get a Heart to finish it off. It would eventually look like this:
1. Boots of Travel
2. Battlefury
3. Sange and Yasha
4. Satanic
5. Cranium Basher
6. Heart of Tarrasque[/quote]
very bad setup.. battlefury is useless aswell as boots of travel..u've max movement speed at night with PTS + SnY..you need IAS (PTS), Satanic sucks since it nullify 16% to maim (SNY) ~ORBS DO NOT STACK~
b4ddy
CAn wuzzy kill Balanar by ambushing him with OverPower+Enraged+BKB+Dagger+Earthshock?
when it's night, this hero becomes IMBA !!! i even beat ursa warrior i had power treads, S&Y, satanic and vladmir he had heart boots of travel and also vladmir
there is no hero in the whole dota game that can beat balanar in the night !
I think Lion (scepter,guinsoo and dagon)might have a chance if he doesnt get silenced before he voodoo him
hay!prti padalaganun ya!
bskan si centaur hindi gd kstun cya ya
15kills vs 0 death
level 7 plang boots lang 2 ka gautnlets kag basilus,maayo man?manami na ya!hibi gd
he is wicked weak!!!!!!!!!!
with 2 Bracers a power treads and then get Satanic and then S&Y
B@L@N@R is COMPLETLY UNSTOPPABLE
Hey,why don't you try teaming Balanar with Lycanthrope(Bane H.) equip them both with PT,SnY,MoM and Skadi and the other 2 items are up two you,
,man,with these combo the opposition doesn't stand a chance,they won't be even able to move at all,WHACKY!!!
Bane Hollow=
maxed
Summon wolves-2 wolves with crit. & stun
Howl-32% increased dmg.
Feral Heart-adds 12%ms and 27%as(to B.H)
Shapeshift- adds bonus 9 - 27 damage
bonus hit points
10% chance to do 2x Crit
+380 bonus Ms
Hey,what do you think would happen if you team up Balanar with Lycanthrope both armed with SnY,PT & MoM
?
Lycanthrope - Bane Hollow
all maxed=for MS
Feral heart-Adds 12% ms,27% as
Shapeshift-+380 ms,+300hp.lasts 1 min.
295+65=360x12%=(43.2+360)403.2+380(shapeshift)=783.2 waaa... and w/o Shapeshift=783-380=403.2
Balanar-
Hunter in the night-35% ms,75% as
295+65=360x35%=(126+360)482
LOLz !!! .....
why so Knight08 ?
this hero is good when used properly
This hero is for advance users and if you don't know how to use it properly, then don't use it though!...
-sh balanar, all of pick him lol you just do darkness and darkness in turns that would be scary for your enemy they would be so hard to kill unlimited night?!?! wahhh!
the only way to have a chance with this guy is to harass the hell out of him until the first night.only if u outfarm and outlevel him in early-mid game u can beat him
BALNAR IS THE BEST CHARCTER FOR ME BECAUSE HES FAST, HE SLOWS OPPONENTS WITH VOID,, HE STOP THEM FROM USING SPELLS,, AND HIS ULTIMA MAKES HIS SKILLS WILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOTTA LOVE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote's lupeman
buy a basher and guinsoos if ur afraid of stunners.
id replace PT with refresher at near end game, natural darkness, ulti, refresh, ulti.
PT, Buriza, Basher, Deso, MoM and Refresher.
i guess u can replace it with bloodstone
BoT is useless at nighttime as MS maxed at night.
I love how people say "Whyd you get a refresher for? its n00b!" and then i end up killin everyone cos i hav Boots of Travel and tele to enemies to pick them off while givin myself 3 minute darkness.
favourite quote!
lupeman: with lvl 1 void and lvl 1 fear, at nighttime, u can slow enemies for total of 13
LOOOOOL
Lupeman,srsly, u should suicide. not to mention that you are a fag, u talk only shit on that forum. stupid build for stupid person I guess.wtf guinsoo?bloodstone?13sec slow?
u say u prefer pts, then u say u tele with both and kill 3 ppl.
Assuming u go with your shit build at lvl 25 u end up with 2200 life 850 mana.
considering u use void/fear for 13sec slow(LOOOOOL)
ít will cost u 270mana now u attack the opponent and if u are lucky its not a mana drain opponent , anyway u are required to use both again to make sure your opponent die = 540 mana and now u use refresher? for 375 mana? and then? u dont have enough mana to tele town /w your bot? OH FORGOTT U USE PTS LOL.
how does this end? whats about survivability? 2.2k life + 20% more dmg taken from mom .. dude u suck mastrodon eggs. u cant even surive one gank with it.
u're a nightstalker. u'll be focused and disabled as soon as u cast darkness.
assuming u're not talkin about crap public
games where a balanar beats a lot u will die ez.
a good build would be
at early game.
bos
2bracer for survivability
helm of dominator
dont skill your ulti.
4void 4hunter in the night
rest into fear depend how u could farm,solo or not.
should be 7mins gone now at first night so u can go for some kills.
if u did it well u can skill 1 point int darkness for some suprises.
helm of dominator is a absolutly godlike early game item. provides u with 5armor 20dmg 15lifeleech and a long last ability to dominate creeps for only 75mana.
dominate a centaur and u've a nice ias boost for neutral farming at day,help for farm and 2 times a aoe stomp with 2seconds stun. this stun used well with darkness gives u a surprisly good way to gank someone in a bottom / top lane will farming lvl 8-10. u also need the hod for up it to satanic later.
assuming u did neutral farming well + ganked one or some heros meanwhile u're able to buy crystalys. get 2 portals and next night takes over.
at the end u should end up with:
BOT/SATANIC
BURIZA/ MKB;RADI
2BRACER
the bracers can be replaced depend on enemys. either hood/hot or 2 hots.
2 hots give u +2k+ hp and +70dmg / 22hp/sec absolutly unbeatable item on him. hood if a lot of nukers (leshrac,zeus,lina,lion)
or a bkb if u meat some disablers (sandking,rhasta,)
ppl overestimate bashers. poor crap weapon. never required. 3300 gold for 30dmg 3str and a poor little bash.
thats almost a hot/mkb.
items suggested in an easy mod game considering its not a serious - private game.
cu lupegayman. gl with your mom,bloodstone,guinso,pts(LOL),bot balanar
Just about everyone here knows lupeman is missing a few marbles. It's okay I guess to voice your opinion (yes, even if it's clearly wrong), but the way lupeman does it, he manages to sound arrogant with his stupid ideas, not to mention belittling others in process.
My build:
Bracer
Bracer
Treads
SnY
Vlad's
Radiance
Good hero, one of the fastest. Just avoid using it against the Bloodseeker. Hahaha.
249 By Fairlady 2008-03-01
My build:
Bracer
Bracer
Treads
SnY
Vlad's
Radiance
sny cost 5400 gold and the stats are horrible. vlad doesnt give u survivability late game and radiance is bad on him. why? mostly u wait in woods till ppl pass cuz u're a stalker. if opponent see creeps moving in strange ways, either neutral or own, they know that you're there, atleast if its not a newb public game. your dmg/life sucks aswell.
bot
satanic
mkb
buri
2hot
hehe how do use nightstalker properly?? (a bit to lazy to scroll all the comments :P) anyway i started stalker with treads and 2 bracers.. added battle fury.. helm of domi.. then crystalis.. (after sometime) cuirass satanic buriza.. game ended.. wth that..
@prosu
Why would you get HoT? Especially 2? Balanar is a DPS hero, not a tank. A couple of bracers is enough.
bashers is a good item is u hav high dps. NS has high dps. (try shivas on NS, its really effective)
noobiest hero to use out of all the dota heros... takes no skill whatsoever... the first time i used him i slaughtered
hes a rigged hero
hmmm? my build:
threads (increase atk spd and mvespd)
satanic (to stay longer in battlefield)
buriza (lifesteal plus buriza? aw!)
mkb (incrse atk spd)
-correct me if my grammar is wrong-
i don't get:
basher (he has a skill that slows enemy)
bkb (u have the skill that silence)
MY Build:
Treads
2Basher
MKB
Buriza
Perseverace/Bloodstone
Balnar is my favourite Hero..
He is a killer in the night...
I wish the night is longer/the ultimate of Blanar is not just for 80second maybe make it 100seconds that will helps Balanar much i think...
My build
Treads
Mask of madness
gauntlet
buriza/mkb
just void-mask-gauntlet and kill
1.Threads - Attackspd and Mvement spd
2.Cranium Basher - Bash
3.Cranium Basher - Bash
4.Vlad's - Lifesteal
5.HoT - Hp and Hp regen
6.Malevolence - AtckSpeed and Mana XD
Crippling fear is mean slience for the sec that crippling fear is
my buliding item
-basher x 2
-SnY
-power tread(str)
-buriza
-HoT
Treads
Satanic
Basher
Basher
Quirass
item of choice
The items i get is
1)Basher
2)Basher
3)Vlad's
4)Treads
5)Heart
6)Buriza
This guys is very good in pubs, but a decent player with a melee agi hero owns him. Bounty Hunter, Stealth Assasin, and Phantom Lancer will own you fast in late game.
The advantage with this guy is that teamwork is needed to take him down. In pubs, especially -ar or -sd, the enemy will not have the right hero combination needed to deal with you. That said, a Lucifer/Magnia combination has dominated me before.
how long does night last..?
BALANAR is a noob hero because it's ohoh1's favourite hero.
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Build q kay balanar
-deso
-treads(pow)
-vanguard
-assualt quirass
-HoT
-kaw n bhala
this char great for owning and ksing people fk la it is gay like hell and i kill with bone fleteher
this dude is old and weak.. the other day i was playn with skele king nd i was pushing sentinels bot lane nd he came nd 1v1'd me nd he put crippling fear on me nd the void i stunned wit hellfire blast nd it was nyt as well nd i ownd with wit 4 hits nd i only had:
BFury
Vlads
PT str
hyperstone
messerschmidts reaver
do you really think balanar is the best of all?
so ima at night!!!!i got triple kill with him at night only with treads and 2 bracers
