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Strategies:The Queen of Ownage posted by madman007 on 2007-10-08 |
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Limit your discussions to Akasha - The Queen of Pain.
Off-topic comments will be deleted.
best hero ever, seriously :) confuse people with blink > all, and escaping is gold :D combined with slowing poison and magic aoe + instant high damage ultimate aoe
shes quite good, i like usin her, but my item build for her is still kind of weak because im not good at item buildin for ranger or mage heroes.
a slow, a nice little nuke, blink, aoe im gonna eat you nuke, i like this hero, first hero i ever played
she decides when will the battle starts or end...
I decide when
sonic wave can kill a lane of creeps..
ei!... what is the best item build on this hero...
Best item... EoS
a pro said that she can kill meepo easily... i dont understand!
yes he can... Sonice wave can kill meepo's clone
waste of a sonic wave though
lupeman, why is it a waste to kill meepo's clone? The meepo hero dies, and that is a waste?
Sonic Wave with Blink...
Great..
Pros - Yes sonic wave does kill Meepos clones in one hit.
Cons - Now you got to wait for the cooldown and Meepo can just use manta style to summon up clones again. Real Meepo usually will have enough health to survive a blast of Sonic Wave. Since Meepos clones don't have timed life, the cooldown couldve been reset already.
I don't get exactly what you're trying to say and no idea what a manta has to do with anything. People were just saying sonic wave makes it easy to kill a meepo clone so every meepo dies.
lupeman youre a moron, everyone knows when a meepo clone dies ALL of them die. why are you saying that he will just summon more with a manta?
ffs, im only goin to explain this meepo thing one last time then i give up.
once meepo hits lvl 16, he will use his ulti straight away, regardless of where he is, therefore his cooldown time will start. a smart meepo will hav each meepo on each lane and farm neutrals with real one. it will take a while before the enemy realises this thus lettin meepos cooldown for his ulti be reduced significantly. say the cooldown is already finished and akasha uses ulti to destroy one of the meepos clones, they all die, but because the smart meepo used his ulti asap so he didnt hav to wait for that annoyin longer cooldown if he used it moments before. if he needed to stall for a couple of seconds, he couldve used Manta Styles clones to confuse the enemy for a maximum of 20 seconds. now that meepos clones are killed by akashas wave, meepo can reuse the ulti again in quick succession and gangbash u because u had destroyed his clones. u might be able to escape ur death by blinkn, because i mentioned that if he had a manta style, manta style has a passive mana burn and can possibly drain akashas mana so she cant blink out of combat.
Meepos item build to counter Akasha
Boots of Travel (can chase her faster)
Guinsoo (immobilise her so she cant blink out of combat)
Manta Style (get +2 clones and they all dont die if only one of them gets destroyed)
Assault Curiass (Auras help ur other meepos)
Hood of Defiance (reduce damage significantly)
Necro (works well with ur assual curiass and can be used to hero block)
cooldown for meepo's ult...huh? what cooldown?
Akasha is good, but for me the most BORING hero in dota (even when i have for example 7-0)
underused in public games- overused in tournament/pro games. think its becoz she isnt that easy to play, but if u can use her well u are the god in the game
plz write a guide for her, I dont know a good item build for her, bcoz she has very different skills....
sorry for this triple-post
I normally love only str heroes(especially bristleback), but qop is so amazingly owning, that I play her as only non-str-hero. and as I said I only play str heoes so I dont really know the best qop item build.....
Very good hero to counter/escape with. Good in any hero combo.
Armor reduction weapons on her would be awesome with her nukes.
Items would be,
1. BOT
2. Stygian
3. AC
4. Guinsoo
5. Aggy
6. Dagon
Sheep, attack for a bit, shadow strike, scream of pain, ultimate, dagon, and followed by more screams and shadow strike. They should be dead by now with amplied damaged spells.
Can someone make a guide to this hero ppllsss!!!
to kill her, u need a lvl 3 necromicon. if she gets a large mana pool, ur screwed
Hmm, i tried her by using a "high burst dmg" build. Buying a few tangos and ring of basti.. first. next shop i bought boots and started on soul booster ( to increase my hp and mana pool. when i had the souldbooster i when for crystalis, and sceptre. after that i got buriza and power threads, really great way to build up, seeing that i had HP and Mana allmost all the time, and avoided the fountain for as long as i could. And with a high manapool and decent hp i could easy kill who ever i whanted 1v1, and sometimes even 1v2. In my opinion, this hero is ALL about burst dmg, and my way of engaging was something like this: Blink on my enemy-->Shadowstrike-->Scream--> blink away and fire like hell--> finish of with ultimate/blink and a new scream+shadowstrike and then ulti
hence... large mana pool
sonic wave is so strong even shadow strike thats why i love her.........
dudez who plays gg client here????
Imo best build is aganims, bot and skadi slow, blink plus aoe dmg and scream very nice.
my combo for akasha is wave + shadowstrike they start running away blnk and scream finish off with some normal attacking or dagon
Buy kelen's on akasha.
y would u buy kelens lol she already has a blink
Nice hero. This is good for chasing you blink and you use shadow strike, then blink and then sonic wave (is really owning with scepter) and I will say you can kill em. I don't always like the scream. Somekinda of a item build: Scepter, BoT, Guinsoo, EoS, Dagon, final 1 is up to you maybe a little stat giver like bracer or a regenation stuff. Really owning hero.
a great farmer and killer. ",
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Oh I forgot, maybe the 6. item could be the BKB. And that brings the chaser/nuker hero to her limits. 
@ lupeman
"once meepo hits lvl 16, he will use his ulti straight away, regardless of where he is, therefore his cooldown time will start"
cooldown ???? ve u ever played wid meepo... ???? his ulti has no cooldown.. it makes a hero as soon as u take the ulti... man !!!
I need a good guide leh
perhaps lupeman u could explain a few things:
no matter if ur meepo is the primary, the imperfect, or an image, the effected will obviously die pretty damn easily; primary meepo have half health, imperfect meepo will have about 1/4 to 3/8 hp, and image will die. so why would u buy manta style? i can't see a reason, is it so akasha sonic's the images, while the real ones sit back and laugh? no pro sonic waves straight away. they'll know what is real or not by the damage being taken. and where the hell did u pull cooldown for ulti from? it's a passive.
u need to make urself clearer, even if u said u'd only do it once, cuz the first time it didnt make sense.
oh i think i'm starting to get lupeman's point, but it's still wrong, considering it is a passive.
lupeman r u a n00b? do u really noe the ulti of meepo? cooldown? WTF?!!
okay...
when manta style clones die, meepo doesnt die.
u send the manta style meepos and ur real one (so they dont realise its trap) in. they will nuke one meepo heavily, puttin all their spells into cooldown.
Alas, it was an illusion, poof ur other meepos in to deal a combined damage total of around 480
i meant cooldown of manta style, not ulti, that was a typo on my behalf.
ill post a replay of me playin meepo next time, but gimme a site were i can upload files, not just warcraft replay files. this way i can show u what i meant.
Okay Lupeman, plz don't spazz over me not understanding... but...
It seems like you're saying to send a Manta clone in, right? Because I don't think most players are dumb enough to think that the clone's the real thing.
They're not going to just fire a Sonic Wave straight up when they see the clone you know.
For that to work you must be the dumbest creature in all of Dota Player History.
if you use manta they will see you have an inventory so your not a clone +they take extra damage any peron can see illusoins are fake
(meepos imperfects only get your boots)
BoT
Aghanim
Refresher
Dagon
I did it yesterday- looots of kills
Do eyes of skadi really fit akasha.
i like the stats thing but i read from some post that frost is wasted cause of shadowstrike.
i need an akasha guide at least on items
mmm, i don't think that skadi is a lost cause...
extra slow is always nice, you might be on CD or mebbe need to slow 2 people
it's kinda the same thing with Viper, his auto-cast is nice, but skadi and auto-cast is GG no RS
i dunno, ive versed some pretty dumb people online. illusions r invaluable online, people dont hav the patience to click the hero then nuke online. the net delay may sometimes cause them to lose the kill if they arent fast enough. in LAN, thats anotha question.
besides, if that plan does work and they use up their nukes on images, u can poof ur other meepos dealin additional damage. try this strategy b4 u flame.
also skadi is a nice additional but not required. although akashas shadow strike has a long cooldown and the slow given by it is short, u hav blink to make up for lost distance.
i dunno who gets viper eye of skadi, the auto cast is more than enough, plus skadi doesnt work when the autocast is on autocast.
Lupeman i see your name here on every topic... I mean this is none of my business but you piss me off. I am new to dota but i can tell that you such!
i fail to see how that is my problem. its ur problem. deal with it.
Yeah guess so but please stop acting like a pro if your not..
P.S i mistyped I meant suck not such..
Y lupeman
Meepo can farm a manta style
so his opponent in his lane is weak??
how can u farm meepo into manta style??
Try dis godlyk build in QoP
1.Linken Sphere
2.Desolator
3.Guinsoo
4.Buriza/MKB
5.it's better you to decide what item you will put..
6.it's better you to decide what item you will put..
If you have Linker Deso Guinsoo
Your unstopple!!
GG na 2 men
-=Lloyd b toh?=-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xOKpKbPvIIU
fave build:
START:
1.Bracer (STR & HP)
2.Bracer (STR&HP)
3.Boots of Speed (+MS)
4.Stout Shield (4 vanguard)
5.Ring of Health (4 vanguard)
6.Vit Booster (Then S. Shield, Ring of Health, & Vit. Booster becomes Vanguard)
ENDGAME:
1.Battle Fury (4 HP regen and +60 dmg)
2.Cranium Basher (for stun & +30 dmg)
3.Heart of Tarrasque (4 str & 11HP reg)
4.Vanguard (4 dmg block 4hp reg & +HP)
5.Stygian Desolator(for -6 arm & +60dmg)
6.Boots of Travel (4 +90 MS & teleport)
My ENDGAME build is for 1-on-1 hero battles with YOU as the hero killer, farmer and tanker all at the same time.
(I did this build against a normal Lion AI and killed him 19 times before the game ended (If using DOTA ver.38, and u use my endgame build, your attack will be 86-92+175 by level 25! by this time you could kill scourge creeps with 2 shots! (if u use -AP. I haven't tried it on sentinel creeps though..)))
man ur item build sucks
and btw there isnt any difference between scourge creeps and sentinel creeps
fave build:
START:
1.Bracer (STR & HP)
2.Bracer (STR&HP)
3.Boots of Speed (+MS)
4.Stout Shield (4 vanguard)
5.Ring of Health (4 vanguard)
6.Vit Booster (Then S. Shield, Ring of Health, & Vit. Booster becomes Vanguard)
ENDGAME:
1.Battle Fury (4 HP regen and +60 dmg)
2.Cranium Basher (for stun & +30 dmg)
3.Heart of Tarrasque (4 str & 11HP reg)
4.Vanguard (4 dmg block 4hp reg & +HP)
5.Stygian Desolator(for -6 arm & +60dmg)
6.Boots of Travel (4 +90 MS & teleport)
My ENDGAME build is for 1-on-1 hero battles with YOU as the hero killer, farmer and tanker all at the same time.
(I did this build against a normal Lion AI and killed him 19 times before the game ended (If using DOTA ver.38, and u use my endgame build, your attack will be 86-92+175 by level 25! by this time you could kill scourge creeps with 2 shots! (if u use -AP. I haven't tried it on sentinel creeps though..)))
oh yeah.. sorry bout that they both got 495? or was it 525?
i think druids & Necros got 495
and Ghouls & treants got 525
oh and the build i use on akasha is the one i use on axe- my fave so that's why it's more str oriented
OMFG
OMFG... You don't have a clue about the creeps, you are talking about some version years ago, put battlefury on ranged Intel hero...
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Hey mate, just stop using so much heroin
qop is pretty useless late game, isnt she? though i hate to admit it. usually after my eos and linken i dont get much kills unless in gangs because the wave is no longer as painful.
gay character although girl, hate blink
Lupeman, is SATANic and Mjollnir is still effect when i use it to troll warlord?
@sunadude
Late game is all about ganging and team pushes, so I don't think Akasha is useless then; besides if you have aghanim and refresher you become a very dangerous hero
A few things i wanna clear up:
a) @ niEL
That's two orbs and can u not post stuff about troll in the qop forum
b) @ anyone discussing meepo here
If you decide to play meepo to some ability, u will get at least vladimir's. This will mean that if you want to own with manta style, when creating images, all of the images will have a vlad's aura around them so the enemy will see that they r fake. also, i never click on images to see they're invent when dealing with meepo. that's just a waste of time. The moral, don't get manta style unless u want that geostrike or extra images to help dmg the enemy. Although, to be honest, i don't know if the images can deal stacking geostrike.
@ sunadude
High damage burst heroes like tinker, qop, pugna, zeus, etc. rely on their farming skills early game, either on owning the weak agi enemies early or by killing a load of creeps and helping in ganks. if u're not a team intel player, it's gonna take some serious skill to win.
@ keyvin0923
u clearly r new to this game cuz ur disagreeing with lupeman in other forums besides this qop one. stop being noob and learn to play before u flame members.
@ mirana789
stop smoking crack and make some sense.
Now for the item build:
Treads (Intel)
Dagon
Skadi
Buriza
Linken's/Refresher
Aghanim's
wat does Aoe means????
Area of effect
My Most favorite Hero.
great AOE Skill. oso nice in getting triple kill. SM queen.
one of my favorite int heroes!!!
aganihm's scepter
eye of skadi
shiva's guard
linken's sphere
guinsoo's scythe of vyse
boots of travel
is Desolator a good item for her???
my item build for this hero:
1.BoT
2.Stygian Desolator
3.Orchid Malevolence
4.Guinsoo or Butterfly
5.Assault Cuirass
6.Eye of Skadi
She's definitely the best farmer and ganker... and relatively hard to kill too, coz o' that blink...
he is my favorite in all heroes
fct/luhkt6
my items for this hero try it...hehe
1.boots of travel
2.aghanims
3.linken sphere
4.eye of skadi
5.radiance
6.monkey king bar
blink heroes very good for run n attack
my f@v0rit3 h3r0!!!!!!!!
Holy shit!
Akasha is one of the most greatest NUKER on early to mid game...
whahah
beware of pudge or magina spell reduction
and eat your mana when u blink magina can blink too to catch you or pudge can hook you and has a lot of life to not get killed by your nukes
My Item Build (late game)
1. Boots of Travel
2. Eye of Skadi
3. Aghanim's Scepter
4. Monkey King Bar
5. Satanic
6. Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse
haha! it's really hard to complete this build unless you really are pawning and owning. 
Lol If the clone of meepo dies everyone dies every decent players knows taht -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- -.-
try this build of mine:
sange & yasha
radiance
bOt
assault
hot
bF
no offince but i hate her she is the worst hero ever "In my opinon"
this hero very weak on ulti not so good
damage so litte i hope icefrog reform it
DIE!!!!!DIE!!!!!!!MUST BUY DAGON
i think her blink have a shorter distant now at level one and thats bad cuz i only take level 1 blink
1.Vanguard
2.PT
3.Linkins Sphere
4.EoS
5.Orchid Malevolence
6.MKB
Ultimate build 4 this
character. Very hard
to kill her.
One of my favourite hero....
Her blink can escape and chase.
Shadow Strike is good at the early game.
Scream of Pain and Sonic Wave can TRIPLE KILL....LOLZ
Item Build for this Queen:
-Hot
-Aghanim
-Refresher Orb
-BoT
-Dagon 5
-Guinsoo
This Queen can kill until GODLIKE!!!
(Great Combo and A BRUTAL HERO)
i think the ulti is to weak,agree?
@ someone_potm
Yep i agree but its very useful to turn the tides in a gank not going ur way.
I think shes perfectly suited for a chasing/ dps character.
Shadow Strike + EoS + Blink = Kill
What more can i say?
Disable her abilities quickly, or prepare to be pawned
think this needs to be updated
blink has 6 sec cd now...
lupeman is a total dumbass....
seriously..
there is no cooldown for divided we stand..
and...WTH would one meepo go farm while the rest attack...
seiously
whoever plays like that is a serious dumbass....
meepo can take out a whole wave in a few seconds and get all the money and exp
But isnt krobelus first skill better than akasha's ulti...?? I mean it has 10 sec coooldwon i think, 300 dmg and almost same range, with two shots u did something really seemed to akasha's ulti
Krobelus's Carrion Swarm has a 5 sec cooldown with Witchcraft maxed. 300 damage every 5 seconds is way better than this hero's ulti.
Brilliant i am. new Item Build:
*BoT
*Skadi
*Orchid Malovence
*Aghamins Sceptre
*Dagon 5
*Linkens/Gunisoo
(I prefer Linkens because of tanked ability, Sheep stick is just another disable or slow)
This B***h is tank and unbeatable.
Happy Building.
@ King.Drink.
Some things iagree with you but wtf m8. Bruzia? nice thought 4 the crit but no attacking speed, has to rely on EoS to slow for them to get at least 6 attacks off at them...zz
errr wtf is with the meepo postings? 2 many noobs saying stuff about his skills...zzz... They soooooo basic. So are QoP's...FFS noobs, go play Ai or something, get some practice, discover a glitch or new trait of the hero and THEN post back..(your lucky there isnt a angry face.)
I dont like Akasha's new Ult... cd is way too long and its the same damage. I dont know why Icefrog nerfed this one... And yes, this need to be updated; shadow strike, blink and sonic wave cds are wrong.
i always use this build-
Power thread(for atk speed)
Guinsoo(Hex+screem of pain+sonic wave)
Aghanim(Improve mu Ulti+Mana,HP)
MKB(More atk speed and damage)
Liken's sphere(stats+removing buff)
EoS(Cold attack+huge increase all stats)
i alway own with this.... any ideas????
I am wondering how the game would last that long, for you to be able to get all these items
Defeated this hero with Mirana even I dont always hit her with the elunes arrow, she may have blink but I have Leap.
1.Null
2.Null
3.BoS/BoT
4.Vanguard
5.Guinsoo
6.Shiva's Guard
Skill Build
1.Blink
2.Shadow Strike
3.Scream of Pain
4.Scream of Pain
5.Scream of Pain
6.Sonic Wave
7.Scream of Pain
8.Blink
9.Blink
10.Blink
11.Sonic Wave
12.Stats
13.Stats
14.Stats
15.Stats
16.Sonic Wave
17.Stats
18.Stats
19.Stats
20.Stats
21.Stats
22.Stats
23.Shadow Strike
24.Shadow Strike
25.Shadow Strike
What a poor BOT-like skill build; not to mention the items chosen...
@ Cranium_Basher
Dude, you misunderstand. U can have the stongest items in the game, but with no skill, all those items have gone to waste. It comes down to what you can do with the items you have.
Please tell me whats so wrong with my skill build.
@egg fuyong:
Dude, you should really max SS asap, cause the damage over time it gives, can get you some early game kills, and why not a FB. I assume that you want to farm with scream of pain, but you don't have that much mana early game, and you can't really spam it. Blink can get you out of trouble since you are fragile and works fine with SS for some early game kills so max it asap along with SS.
As for the vanguard - a point booster will be better to start forming soulbooster
No offence
@ Cranium_Basher
No offence taken. Im here to express my opinion. Your here to express yours.
I and many others prefer to max Scream early, not to farm but as a harassing and killing tool. You really only need the first level of SS as a slow to help with the kill. maxing SS isn't that great compared to getting 3 levels of stats (assuming you get 1 level of SS beforehand) which gives 114 HP, 78 MP, 1 armour, and 6 damage. So you can choose between a slow kill with maxed SS, which requires..
@ Cranium_Basher (continued)
..a chase, possibly putting your survival in jeopardy then your hoping that the SS kills them as they escape, or you could chose the faster kill with 1 lvl of SS and maxed Scream resulting in a shorter chasing distance. And with stats you have greater Survivbility and killing power.
Soul booster is not necesary because it doesn't help your team kill, or save your team from geting killed, which is why i prefer Hex/Shiva combo.
@ Cranium_Basher (continued again)
Shiva and Scream can serve as a lane clearing combo helpful with pushing or counterpushing.
@egg fuyong:
Soul booster is needed for aghan, which makes your ult hurt like hell; I respect the fact that you are perhaps a great team player, but you should try more offensive play, dude; and by the time I would maxed scream of pain I would have enough mana to use it liberraly; dunno how would you manage to use it well early game, before high lvl items are in aquired
@ Cranium_Basher
I'll give you my slightly updated build excluding early game items:
1.HoD
2.Guinsoo's
3.Shiva's
4.Desolator
5.BoT
hmm ok then. I need you to understand this and a few more things. Scream is not a spammable spell early game and is not used for farming early game. Its used sparingly for early ganks and harassment. Void stone is bought early along with nulls to sustain increased usage.
@ Cranium_Basher
Also have you watched any replays of the pro teams like Ks or MYM?
They ALWAYS chain nuke/stun to kill asap
where getting SS does't achieve that.
Aghanim's is far too expensive in my opinion and it really only does 580 taking normal magic resistance into account compared to 480 normally. Is 100 damage really worth 6000g?
@egg fuyong:
You have a point, dude. I thought about it and I must say that you are most correct. I will have it in mind when I play Akasha
@ Cranium_Basher
thanks for hearing me out dude. Tell me how things work out for you.
