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Strategies:The forest... a dangerous place to be! posted by Greater Bash on 2008-04-14Destroy and Survive with N'aix the Lifestealer, by Reaper666 posted by Reaper666 on 2008-05-30 |
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2 bracer
power treads
satanic
mkb
vladimirs offering
hyperstone
bkb
hot
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win a 1v5 easily
2 bracers? no way... try this:
-Treads
-2 basher
-2 hyperstone
-Satanic
UNSTOPPABLE!!!
you dont need basher lol. uve got a slowing skill.
@jakiro: You would need bracers to be able to survive and creep in the early game. @belanglos: Bashers are extremely useful for naix. Satanic + Vladmirs Offering is overkill. Get Vladmirs and a couple of Bashers instead.
@ Drew: Damage: 39-49;
items needed:
2BASHERs,
SANGEYASHA,
SATANIC,
HYPERSTONE,
you can equip the heart of tarasque...
this is easy to use
What items best for naix?Boots of travel,sange yasha,BuriZa,Aegis of ImmoRtaL,and exactly 2 DiViNe RapieR!!!!!!!!!
2 divine rapier... you almost give me an heart attack!!!!powerthreads, satanic and vladimir,, if you have those you can tank 1 tower with a full hp!!!! ok.. your hitting the tower.. ok... now you have low hp and enemy creeps comes by... kill all the creeps and look at your hp,, WOW its full again... hahahaha
treads 2 bashers S&Y mask of madness and heart of tarrasque
if you don't like heart, then i suggest buriza
1 boots+ 5 bracer should last you the early game...heart, hyperstone, S&Y satanic.... 2 bashers are good.....
"Posted by FroZeN_BoyZ: and exactly 2 DiViNe RapieR!!!!!!"
Why not 3 DIVINE? Or maybe 4???
in early game, u dont really need more than 3 bracers, wraith bands or that trinket thingy that increases intel (forgot name). haha for the person who suggested rapier... wheneva i pick up a rapier, i always get a team buddy to tk me and sell the rapier (cant be dropped, dropped on death). if u hav aegis and divine rapier, most guys will be smart enough to buy a guinsoo just to get ur rapiers :P
N'aix ulti isn't that good
It is the same wid Omni yet takes more mana. Omnio also can make people to be immune to mage longer too
Treads+SnY+1/2HoT+1/2basher+Buriza
40%lifesteal what if crit is higher than 700 that hurts and worth the lifesteal
He is hard to play with early game. I recommend getting a ring of regen to farm more efficient.
mali yaN, DapAt SnY, HoT, P. TreaDs, 2 bashers, and satAnic GoDliKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yesh yesh i know hes strength type but why does his strength gains lower than the rest... T_T
yes i've tried jakiro's item build but im just thinking is manta style work on this hero?
hahah xD
Naix is like one of the best late gamers or even at 13+ xD
i pwned with him, soloed 1v3 won all xD
be carfeful or highnukers and stunners, if you become repeatedly stunned then you can gain hp xD
but naix is GODLIKE ;]Tankified
Can't* Gain hp "
why the fuck would you get a talisman (for intel) you have 1 spell with 90 second cooldown... 2 bashers (bashers are for those mini stuns so they cant do ANYTHING)
your ulti (avatar - rage) that stops all spells against you for a period of time, your poison sting helps slow so they cant get away which works with bashers so against another hero 1v1 you will own... and the rest of the items are optional but 2 bashers with naix is pretty good and then he gets scary.
his ultis not that bad if u hav all lifesteal and agility items. it adds to lots of damage and life steal, its not rendered useful until uve got at least lvl 2 or 3 of the other passive skills
Only one hero ive got 2 divine rapiersr with, and that was slithereen gaurd, online that is, its overkill, if you dare get that for niax, get a burizo,! Cheapy, No1 says HoT for this hero yet its soooooo goood! Satanic is great but hey! 11 hp persec regen! Goof with the high hp boost
asa
vladimir is a waste of a slot for this hero, and money. life steal doesnt stack, and their r items that can replace it which will give you a better advantage.
I think This is a agi hero cause it gains more agility
lifesteal does stack, u just dont realise it. some strength heroes also hav a skill which increase their movement and attack speed, for example abaddon or nightstalker
Kardel can take care of this guy in 1 on 1. ill use 3 Hot's., 2 rapier, 1 hyper stone. God like!
would manta be good for this guy?
N'aix is great i dominate with him but i found tht if u dont have level advtg. on ranged characters ull get poned and if u see the other team get techies DONT PICK NAIX HE WILL PWN U with his range and if u get close suicide....steal all the life u want ull be blown up and i say treads, 2 basher, Satanic, Radiance, Hyperstone
The the contrary, Vladmir's stacks acceptably since Satanic is an orb effect and Vladmir's is an aura. But as I've stated before in these debates, it's waste of an item slot to get it on him. Maybe get it on King Leoric and have him max out Vampiric aura and sit loyally next to you. Don't waste YOUR time on it though. Get a Satanic and Buriza. I'm rather surprised that everyone recommends treads on him, since most people recommended SnY out of fear their opponent would get away. Get him BoT: Attack speed bonus is all but useless if he's built right, and the teleport/ms is priceless.
Anyone who thinks he needs a SnY needs a serious check-up. He's already got a slow, and orb effects don't stack. With BoT he's fast anyway. Get a Yasha if you're really concerned, but in my opinion that's still a waste. Save your energy for an assault cuirass. God, I love the assault cuirass. The 50% attack speed boost is lovely on him and utterly compensates for the Treads loss, and the additional armor helps to make sure he'll be gaining more health than the opponent can damage him.
His ultimate is anything but useless. It makes it almost pointless to fight him if you're intel. Jump out at them from behind (if you come in from the front they'll presumably run), avatar, and consume.
A heart is nice too, as is an MkB. If you're dealing with melee heroes, get a blademail. It's really funny.
Elf
get him a few blade mails and u shud 0wn
feast not an orb effect???
dunno but for me, i buy 2 bracers, 1 BoT , 1 Hyper, 1 Desolator and 1 heart? IT works for me..
@ andilon123 - yup
feast is obviously not an orb effect. rage is very useful in mid game as most heroes r low hpers and nukers would hav hard time. i repeat "ULTI IS NOT USELESS" with crazy ASPD
power treads
2 basher
mkb
satanic
vladimirs offering
hyperstone
enough for me
SnY
BoT/Power treads
2 bashers
Valdimirs offering
DR/anything i want
my item build if farm very nicely
Hi,
I’m new in this forum site, I’ve tried to use N`aix but it’s a hard hero… I like to know what is the best build item for this hero or on the beginning of the game what is the first item that I need to build….
i don't think naix is a hard hero at all. One of the easiest n cheapest to use....for me
ure builds kinda uber endgame but not that realistic..2 DIVINE RAPIERS AND 3 HoTs!!!
...not going 2 happen..
Is this a 1on1 hero?
i dont like him much either... people say hes a great hero, but wheneva i random this hero, my enemy is always ranged.
DO NOT GET SNY DO NOT GET SNY
I see SO many noobs get sny on niax.
dont need at all have slow dont need agi dont need move speed.
GET BURIZA FIRST
^no SnY, you need to increase your damage first so u gain the lifesteal.
2 bashers
power threads
2 hyperstone
s and y
i pwned roshan single handed( the old roshan) withour retreating
of course i was lvl 25 alredy......
roshan is lvl 20 and naix is one of the few heroes who can solo roshan easily. WTF would people get hyperstone? at late game, he has the most agility in the game.
Agi: 26 + 4.05
and DO NOT GET SNY, GETTIN HIM SNY IS LIKE GETTIN NAIX A REFRESHER ORB, ITS N00B
sange yasha is not requires to naix coz he aLredy got a sLow skiLL //
6 Hyperstones always does the trick lol
weeee 6 bracers and boots at start if 1v1
last two comments r completely dumb, yea, get Naix 6 hyperstones, even though he has the highest ASPD in the game "Agi: 26 + 4.05 with Frenzy". 6 Bracers with Boots? wtf, theres only 6 slots available idiot and one HoT is better than 6 bracers. talk about mega n00bz
talk about a guy who can't take a joke
This is a hero who likes passive skills
HOW 2 Beat this GUY??
rangers beat this guy EASILY. like Kardel Sharpeye. if enemy naix gets blink dagger, also get blink dagger. if he gets lothars, also get lothars :P
Maybe this:
-Sange Yasha
-Divine-2 Cranium
-Power Thread
-Mkb
-Taras
Gr8 her0
I relli lke naix having 2x basher and a satanic! hes invinvibe Its like he can never lose hp!
Naix is one of the best examples of late game hero. This guy just absolutely owns late game, but early game this guy is one of the easiest hero to kill, so if you can keep him alive and not feed, and once it's late game it's GG. and dont be scared of ganking 2 heroes at a time, because this guy just owns late game.
assault vlad satanic bot's thats how to make him unstopable
pretty boring hero for the first 40-50 minutes. Naix's early game is all about surviving to get a decent mid game. And then his mid game is about getting to late game asap.
and then.. pure ownage. can easily 1v2, 1v3 or 1v4 if not many disablers
Hehe this is what i call an unstoppable hero....you can take a full team on and get out with a little less than half hp...
Oh of course owning everyone 
very hard first, but very strong at the end (of course if your creeping good too ^^)
You can't actually kill anyone until like level 20, which sucks.
u start pwning when u buy satanic
Well from experience, i would say that naix starts owning when he finishes his first item (SnY, Helm of the Dominator, whatever), AND when he reaches level 14 or so....
You are pretty unkillable there unless nuked, but that's why you have your RAGE!!!!
anyone?
how to beat medusa w/ naix?
RAGE is vulnerable w/ purge
aarghhh
SnY is not needed for him... why would u waste gold to give a hero with crazy high MS and ASPD who also has a slowing ability a SnY which slightly increases his ASPD and MS and gives him the same slowing ability.
naix is a hard hero to farm with, unless with neutrals, so gettin a satanic would be around lvl 20'ish + basic item build.
he is insane...
my fave hero...
yes he is poor, but when you kill hero you got 250 gold, just got boots, sange, and mask of death can give u enough power to kill 2 int heroes (at lvl. 10)
ok ulti build 4 this guy is BoT,HoM, S&Y, BATTLE FURY AND 2 BASHERS HAV FUN WITH THIS BUILD, the battle fury an lifesteal make taking on anythin a walk in the park i mean honestly splash life steal com on!
Man this hero needs some balancing.
Strength hero with so much of agility.
Its like god-like armor-up.No matter how many hits tower gets on u,damage is like nothing especially when Feast is really going on.
Battlefury is necessary to get gold for him.
Just get Hyperstone,Battlefury,HoT,BoT,Mechansm,
Burizado.
Later on substitute mechansm for another HoT and convert the hyperstone to Assault...
Hp--wudn't go down wud it??
I got Naix the following build one day just to see if it would work... It was full out agility
PT, Butterfly, SnY, 2 Hyperstones and an item that would increase damage, MKB.
Even though his damage was quite low, he never lost hp cos he was attackn so fast.
i did get called a n00b cos i got the hero with the most agility gained in late game a full out attack speed item build.
i got bored and sold the hyperstones and MKB for dual bashers and it as GG soon afta.
sange yasha is the most important item for him!!!
I just played Naix for the 2nd straight random game. People in first game told me that Satanic does not stack but they are noobs. My item build:
Power Treads
Buriza
Radiance
Battlefury
Heart of Tarrasque
Satanic
Buttferly.
I know this whole build is pricey as hell. BUT, with proper playing, u can solo rosh at lvl 13. I did it with Buriza and Helm of dominator with treads...
A more ideal build:
Power Treads
2 X Cranium Basher (1 at least)
Buriza
Satanic
Heart of Tarrasque
This hero is very flexible with items IMO. You can get a buttferly, Assault Cuirass, Monkey King Bar, Skadi (never tried but sure would help), Vladmir's Offering, etc.
Let me know what you think of both builds
I just played Naix for the 2nd straight random game. People in first game told me that Satanic does not stack but they are noobs. My item build:
Power Treads
Buriza
Radiance
Battlefury
Heart of Tarrasque
Satanic
Buttferly.
I know this whole build is pricey as hell. BUT, with proper playing, u can solo rosh at lvl 13. I did it with Buriza and Helm of dominator with treads...
A more ideal build:
Power Treads
2 X Cranium Basher (1 at least)
Buriza
Satanic
Heart of Tarrasque
This hero is very flexible with items IMO. You can get a buttferly, Assault Cuirass, Monkey King Bar, Skadi (never tried but sure would help), Vladmir's Offering, etc.
Let me know what you think of both builds
Wrong.. can be killed by 1 hit
hahaha just one ulti even in level 25
hey guys, ihave a few questions, plz post ur opinions...
1. does Rage stop n'aix from receiving damage from skills like epicenter and laguna blade?
2. if you buy manta style, will ur images have n'aix's passives, which are the slow, increased attk and movement speed and poison sting?
plz respond asap, thx :D
epicenter is aoe, he would still get hurt from that, but laguna is targeted so lina cant use it against him. its like a BKBs avatar.
never tried manta style with naix so i wouldnt know.
btw, which orb do u prefer?
Satanic or SnY?
power treads
S&Y
heart
2MKBS
and ny othr item u lykk..
BEYOND GODLYK WIT THESE ITEMS
Aghanim's scepter is the best item for n'aix!!!hahaha
SHIT, WHY WAS NAIX A STR HERO? CHANGE THE PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE BECAUSE HE HAS A HIGH AGI GAIN!
treads,heart,santanic,mkb,assault cuirass? your gonna be very hard to kill and very fast cause lots of hp+lifesteal and armor
2 bashers
boots of travel
2 hyperstones
HoT
nuff said
i got firstblood with naix today :P
If you're naix and you're bottom sentinel or top scourge, first blood guaranteed.
1. PT
2. S&Y
3. Basher
4. Basher
5. HOT
6. Buriza
is the most common build.
he's like a partner with SK... his skills are so imba, such as feast is like 40% lifesteal wtf, bettter than satanic, poison sting, 40% slow? WTF even more!! anabolic 40% attk + 9% movement speed, that's like mini form of hyperstone and SnY's speed increase
and rage, 20 seconds of BKB and 20 dmg 90 cooldown
very noob friendly but if in tight situation kinda hard to get out since you only got 1 skill, and it's ultimate
btw, DONT get bracers, 4 gauntlets will do
COMBOS
1. POWER TREDS
2. SANGE YASHA
3. SATANIC
4. MKB
5. MKB / RADIENCE
6. MKB / BURIZA
why do people get SnY on this hero, as if anabolic frenzy isnt enough movement and attack speed and poison sting isnt enough slow? >_<
Midas is good cos he doesnt really that much on mana and the gold from centuars is quite nice.
i dunno what u mean about first blood, naix is supposed to farm neutrals until late game.
cool huh..
lifesteal to gain life...
boots of travel
assoult
2xbasher
satanic
BK
buterfly
2v2 team build:
Treads
sange n yasha
basher
cuirass
vlads
battlefury
...
BEYOND GODLIKE!!!
One word for this hero "GODLIKE"
Is this good for Naix?
1.BoT
2.Satanic
3.MKB
4.Hyperstone
5.HoT
6.Buriza
?
Somebody answer me pls.
those items i mentioned earlier, are made in order. 1-6 except the BoT i only use boots of speed at the beggining and later in the game that's the time i make a BoT.
could you give me a better build for naix pls
Pls tell me,what must i do? Yesterday game i pick naix,my team mate tell me to go mid,there i counter silencer n lion,f u guys was me,what u buy?What u do?Silencer got 1st blood killing me,
First of all, you have no business middle till you're lvl 16; try Powertreads, S&Y, basher, and Satanic
try to last hit in the beginnin with naix. once u reach lvl 6 and get mask of madness, just farm neutrals till lvl 16. the only reason i get mask of madness early is because earlier increased lifesteal and faster farmin. mask of madness is pretty much pointless at late game cos u will be ownin with or without it.
Best item of naix i ever built, 5 gauntlets. Then nuetral at lvl 5. then PT
MJolnir
Butterfly
Heart
Buriza and last
MKB
1 vs 4-5 still owns, believe me.
cast Mjolnir to self then avatar! RoaR!
Have u seen the new naix?
i think hes less imba that the late naix
i thought n'aix's skill has been upgraded??????
What the hell is this??
whats with the new naix.
i have actually played with the new naix and he seems completely changed Rage is no longer his ult, and its a normal ability lasting 4.75 seconds costing 75 mana with a 15 second cool down. Feast is and the poison is relatively the same and his ult is consume, which he hides in any creep to regain life and bursts out of it.
tis hero no nid buy hp,juz nid 2 pump damage only
Not quite
-don't forget about the stunners - if you're max hp is low even with great lifesteal - few seconds in stun may be fatal
woooooooooooo..........
they changed his skills completely in V 6.49
so the new naix is not as imba as the old one.
NOOBS NEW NAIX NEEDS ONLY ARMOR AND IAS NOTHING ELSE.WHEN U GET ASSAULT CUIRASS THERE WOULD NO HERO THAT CAN OPPOSE U HE DOESNT LIFESTEL NOR DAMAGE CAUSE HE HAS ENOUGH ALREADY FROM HIS NEW FEAST AFTER ASSAULT CUIRASS MAKE WHATEVER U WANT UT I WOULD RECOMMEND BUTTERFLY AND THEN WHATEVER U WANT.THOUGH AS SOON AS U GET ASSAULT THE GAME IS OVER!
um...... those of you who play 6.49, take a look at the bottom left hand corner of the load screen
Try this, i play both ai and human insane godly..:
1. Boots of Travel
2. The Butterfly
3. Basher
4. Satanic
5. Buriza
6. Linken Sphere
i'm a newbie , though...
N'aix is a late game ownage! my fav hero besides Razor,
my build
2 bashers
satanic
boots of travel
butterfly
and thats it!!!!!!
people, 6.49 is not an official dota map, please do not use it.
me??
-treads
-sange and yasha
-2 basher
-satanic
-if possible assault curriass
Does his Ulti work on Heroes???
And do the enemys see, inwhich unit u r?
And do u gain XP, while being there?
i think the new naix is shit because hes much more imba now with this new lifesteal. i saw naix ownin last game without another lifelech and it was impossible 2 kill him -.-. u cant use it on heros only on creeps later on your opponents creeps 2.
what are the builds for the new naix? plz help me i got killed everytime i use the new naix 8(
Satanic and Armlet of Morddigian are perfect for him!!!
I fail to see how the new N'aix is remotely balanced. Lets look at the skills:
Rage: 80% IAS and magic immunity for 4.75 seconds. Woopdy do, Clinkz/Viper/Razor/Storm gets 80-100% IAS for 10+ seconds, 4.75 seconds of magic immunity isnt enough to survive a battle, it'll just delay the nukes.
Open Wounds: I'm kinda confused about this but my guess is it gives allies additional life steal and is a petty slow. I'd just assume have shadow strike or better yet Dazzle's Poison Touch or even better yet a disable like Frostbite or Burrow Strike.
Feast: 7% of 1000 is 70, which is good, but once they get low on HP its not doing anything. The only remotely useful ability for this new redone hero and only because of the fact that it does more damage as the game progresses. Early game it sucks. It won't help in last hitting thats for sure.
The ult? Sounds retarded. A no damage no stun ultimate. Looks more like a free sapphire flask to me. The way it is worded it just screams "useful if you really suck at dota".
I can't really understand 2nd skill. Is it the same as an ordinary lifesteal?
Ulti, is it a 1 kill ulti?
3rd skill, if you use it, will your allies gain life per attack? 'Coz it says there "allowing his allies to feast on his life force, regenerating a portion of the damage dealt."]
I think this Nai'x is much better, but I'll miss the old Nai'x...
just retarded and totally imba..
I guess this renders all N'aix strategies, new and waiting, moot.
I liked the old one better. Oh, well.
This new Niax is kinda sucky... Bard Man misses the old version. He was simple, fun, and deadly.
This guy? Too much thought. Bard Man played N'aix for a simple game. Now that's gone. If Bard Man finds the guy who changed N'aix, He'll beal the jackass in the head with a tube of cookie cough.
dough*
The whole point of old N'aix was simplicity, what with no clicking. This new version makes you think about whether or not you really have mana to do things, which previously was never a problem.
sigh better start writing a new guide..
effort, picking the most probably shitty in most situations naix.
I like the new Naix more that the old one - now he is more typical strenght type
awTzz.. Naix. will become more weaker at early game cause he will be short with mana
too bad.. but good work for the 1st skill thou
something i think ppl are overlooking in the new nai'x is his second ability
yea it's kind of weird as a life steal ability, but it also has a dmg amplification purpose
the percent of the enemies' health is also added to your dmg dealt
so like a 2000 hp hero [which isnt uncommon late game] would give you a 140 dmg boost the first attack
of course the dmg boost goes down as your enemy takes more dmg but still
the first attack is like having two burizas or MKBs
NAIX IS A PIECE OF SHIT NOW.
i TRIED TO KILL someone with satanic power treads and a hyperstone.
its just useless.....
its almost imposible to kill someone.
(it was apem)
i tried to kill necrolyte. tried to kill panda.
Nothing.
I like the old naix better. I own even without using any skill
New N'aix looks worse. Isn't the agi gain per level a lot lower now? Wasn't it 2.7 before? I think it's better cause it'll prevent him from owning everyone one in late-late game.
how does the ulti work?
new naix sucks!!!
HAIZ
NAIX SO WEAK ADY
laz time i solo 5 hero with a build
now same build WEAKER FARMED enemy heroes also can 2 v 1 me haiz
naix so hopeless d
Has his skills been updated to take into account version 6.49?
Just not sure, haven't played with naix yet
the new n'aix is better, he's stronger in early game (MUCH stronger) and you can jungle with him
but he's weaker in lategame
i also like his 3rd ability which allows friends to leech life
I miss the old naix
If want this skills, they must made a new hero
Naix is imba (in the don't pick this hero nOOb way. His ult is shit (ooh I can hide in a creep and get 500 hp back)+His other skills are pretty crappy too. I see a third Naix remake on the way. My guess is IceFrog rushed and did a crappy ass job, and this retarded zombie was the result.
Infest > Consume. pfffft, how useless, the only thing useful about is if u wana hide in an allied creep, wait for it to reach the end of the path and consume it and backdoor/rax. or if u hav dominated a creep, send it forth to attack enemies, if a low health hero approaches u, BAM, consume and own him.
early game naix? pffft, i want old naix back (then again old naix couldnt be defeated in late game, hmmm. decisions)
i think rage should last longer
Tip 1: Hide in neutrals where enemies creep, for the surprise factor.
Tip 2: New Items ill get for him
-PT(Agi)
-Midas
-amulet
-Vladmirs
-SnY/Skadi (his ulti makes him farm like a demon)
-Devine (with his death pact and the amulet u can mange his hp quite easy to never die after lvl 16)
NERF THIS BITCH
So imba
New ulti is not very useful. Also he can't kill as easily as before because he lost his poison sting skill.
I hate N'aixs new lifesteal, once the enemy is low on hp u do less damage and get less lifesteal making u weaker T_T
is open wounds an orb?
Delete those strategies? Naix is a whole newwwwwwwwwwww herol now
ok i have it down to...
Treads (agi) or Travel.
2 bashers
Bruiza
Assult.
HoT should you have time.
My Build - When Well Fed!!!!
-Power Treads
-Battle Fury
-Radiance
-Butterfly(Faster Attack)
-HoT(if possible)
@markey 0130
Open Wounds is a targeted spell...
Battle Fury would help here since N'aix has low mana pool and I like to spam Rage and Open Wounds.
new ult is SO dominant, it's better than lothars, cant be detected, regens health hella, can be used to sneak up with your creep wave OR excape by sneaking out with an enemy creep wave. I just got played by naix and he used the new ult so well, it is as tough to locate him sometimes as it is with heroes like Bounty and Riki
how about using his ulti on someone's flying courier or you own flying courier is it possible? that's one heck of a flight. XD
NAIx is the BEST hero possible
make treads,helm of the Dominator(to get huge lifesteal) and then go for cranium basher
Omg can u uswe it on a flying courior, you coukld backdoor sooo well.!
Both old and new naix has its ups and downs. I say jus let us keep our old naix and make new naix an entirely new hero...naix twin brother?
oh and as for items for the new naix, skadi might be able to compensate for the loss of poison sting...but cant get skadi till late game so still a downer
Damn. Making this hero weaker than before.
Ahh..one thing, It'll regenerate itself if it infest into creeps?
treads
s&y
2x basher
divine rapier
satanic
*this builds for those who find it hard to farm... fairly cheap and disables enemies quite efficiently... high attack speed and 2 bashers? blink and windwalks the only way to escape!
treads
s&y
buriza-do-kyannon
satanic
assault cruiass
divine rapier
this build is for those has a basic strategicadvantage over their enemies.. (mostly int type heroes are food for this wicked hero!)
nice item build everbody
, but mine is:
-2bracers
-power treads (or BoT)
-Eye of Skadi
-vladmirs
-aegis
-divine
you know why i bought EoS, because his 3rd skill is for only 7sec. soooo.... i bought EoS to frost attack and it will not stack at any skill(EoS is like the poison sting in the 1st naix)
mask of madness = 155 IAS with rage on
1st naix was beter...
new naix is great because it requires some
skill to use
Glad Smile Sad Surprised Confused Cool
Laughing Mad Bleh! Hmm Depressed Hysterical
Guilty Wink Confident Dreaming Disappointed Hopeful
gay new naix. fucking ice frog prob cant beat it so he changed it. PLUS wtf, if ppl say naix is imba, look at fucking Motred. 4.0 Crit.
28% dodge
blink less then 10 sec cool down.
New Naix-
7% Life steal, you shittin me?
Cast Spells? Open Wound? Rage? Fuck me side ways, wtf, Naix is pure str no skill caster.
Make some kind of monster like Naix, something different, like a worm or someshit. Infest into a creep. sounds logical.
yestrday we played 5 v 5.. i was tidehunter.. my other ally was naix.. man he rocked.. he got a skadi and 1 basher then heart.. thats pretty much all u need.. he was invincible.. in my opinion get skadi for him 1st.. and 1 basher is optional.. and heart a bit later.. treads would go a long way here too.. i love this hero now
Looks to me that new naix is better than the other one. Get 2 HoT, Mordiggan (leave it on when fighting or permanennt when your regen beats it), Skadi, PT and sthng else.
i LIKE this new model of Naix but i don't really like the ultimate avatar was a better ultimate!
any one have strategiesfor the new niax? cause i really want to know which skill he should up first and second. rage and open wound? cuz i dont think is good to up feast cuz in early game most heros have low current hp so u wont get much hp of their current life
scary character hehehe
@uregay, u rlly are gay aren't u?
wah wah new naix spellcaster now, wah wah.The 7% lifesteal is 7% of their hp fukwit and hav u even used his ulti before, yeh soooo gay, (at full lvl) all u get to do is go into any creep to avoid attack and to sneak up to ppl, and u only get their max hp added to urs. yeh man that ulti sux, bout time they added a bit more skill to naix than just farming and attacking (and the one hotkey u need to use rofl).
OH YEH im sure ICEFROG, the fuckin maker of our current dota could not beat it and thats why he changed it. jeez
Rage > Feast > Rage > Open Wounds > Rage > Feast etc... Blink dagger, SNY, One Basher + Other Dream item if needed.
what the heck dudes... i don't like heart of tarrasque on him... i mean, you guys are forgeting why they call him "the lifestealer"... satanic is way better for him.
cranium basher
cranium basher
satanic
assualt curiass
the butterfly
power treads(agi)
2 basher
s&y
treads
Satanic
HoT
Hyper for luxury....
1. Boots of Travel - for chasing
2. Assault Cuirass - Armor and ASPD
3. Satanic - added STR and LIFESTEAL!
4. Heart of Tarrasque - HP, STR, and Regen
5. and 6. Cranium Basher - Stun
infest should be nerfed really hard and degrade to a skill... bring back the avatar ulti!! its waaaaay better...
The new naix is so fucked up!!! his ulti is useles... And the life steal seems to malfuction sometimes... I dont like it!! GIVE OUR OLD NAIX BACK!!!
If u want my opinion... Just stop pickin' Naix till they fix him, cause he is totally useless. Since the new map was release i havent seen a player ownin' with Naix like he use to.
amfefe kau
tagalog namn dya LOL~
amfefe kau
tagalog namn dya LOL~
TREADS
SKADY
VLADIMIR
BLACK KING BAR (20 SECONDS AVATAR WITH RAGE GG!)
BUTTERFLY
SATANIC OR TARRASQUE
BASHERS BASHERS AND BASHERS? :S
I read and I see only say bashers the naix does not have the same aspd before .. sry my english is bad xD
BASHERS BASHERS AND BASHERS? :S
I read and I see only say bashers the naix does not have the same aspd before .. sry my english is bad xD
it will be so sweet if ur against big life heroes!!!
I like the old Naix better
hayz....if memory servz me right starting on version 6.44...2 bashers dont work anymore....it only lowers your stunning percentage...meaning 1 basher is better than 2
...my items on naix are weird but seems effective...treads,arcane ring,dagon,bracers...(hehe i like being weird on items..gives u the surprise factor)...my reason for the arcane is that the new naix is not like the old that dont depend on active skills only depends on his items...the new naix depends on his active skills now so arcane ring was my solution for the problem for having many active skills but low on mana...and his life steal is,at lvl 4,7% of the current life of the enemy..my solution is dagon...just think y...its not very complicated...dont want to explaine word for word...just try it just dont forget his ulti...its very crucial on this weird build...killing,hiding,surprising,and surviving..
I also like the idea of using dagon.you can lower your opponents much more faster with the new naix but it's hard to finish a kill because the lifesteal+damage will reduce as the opponen's HP reduce. Radience is also a good choice IMO.
mr. naix guy...i use the dagon if the enemy 's hp is low coz low hp=low lifesteal....thats the idea...^____^
mr. naix guy...i use the dagon if the enemy 's hp is low coz low hp=low lifesteal....thats the idea...^____^
mr. naix guy...i use the dagon if the enemy 's hp is low coz low hp=low lifesteal....thats the idea...^____^
hey can some tell me
why they change Na'ix
I think he is far most worst than the
other old Na'ix
Actually the new Naix is much stronger troughout the game
I agree with cranium naix is stronger throughout the game now and can manhandle high hp tanks people should stop complaining about how they hate the new naix its like the aegis on roshan theres nothing you can do so you live with it also if you dont like naix now dont use him..... maybe if you get lucky icefrog will put the old naix and new naix both in the game ... that would be cool.
Maybe I'm just noob enough
i don't know, is it just me or naix just became more easier to use throughout the game...
well i agree to those who said that naix build now is no longer item dependent and he can dish out serious dmg even in early part of d game because of feast...
though i dont agree on cranium naix since he lost his passive skill which makes him hit more faster and d rage skill only lasy for 4.75 sec i would prefer s&y to compen8 for lost speed...
as for mana issues because of his new castable skills i think 3 bracers is more than enaf to solve dis problem & besides casting his spells only cost cheap amnt of mana.
i also think they adjusted the amount of str gained per lvl though im not quite sure since in my games i thought he is now gaining more str instead of almost d same amt of agi nd str gain from b4...
by the way feast wont work on roshan
thought i can man handle hi *ss at lvl 11
...
and for last i use 3x bracers, power treads, s&y, satanic d reason i use this
items is simply becoz this items brings naix back to my comfort zone of naix of old...
@ ruthlezzTM yes at first i used items to try and recreate the old naix and then i found that small adaptations lead to better results than recreation based on the game Satanic if u need it Skadi sometimes it all depends o and BTW SnY and Satanic dont work together since its 2 orb effects.
wtf the new naix is totaly fuckshit dipshit assfucked man he totally sucks goateggs . 7 % lifesteal ^&%8 fuckin wtf are u kiddin me. Havent seen anyone owinng wid the new fucker not surpiring considering hes the fuckiest fucked up hero in the game> Bring the old naix backk.
How can you own with the New Na'ix please tell me
Superman of DOTA...he saves the game from getting lost..........
Before he don't need mana points
now he need it so badly for his new skills
holy shit this new naix sucks!!!!!!!!!
The old naix is better!!!!!!!!!
fuck the new Lifestealer it is a shit the old N`aix is better and stronger late game
this new naix is so good man, the skills are useful (except the ulti, whats up wit tat man) this item build is good for multi battles like 2vs 2:
1. Power threads
2. Vladimirs
3. SnY
4. Basher
5. Assault Cuirass
6. Basher
But if u creep damn well den get this build:
1. BoT
2. Skadi
3. HoT
4. Assault Cuirass
5. Basher
6. Hot
The ulti is useful, at first I thought it was stupid but it has some uses.
1) escape, in certain conditions you can infest an enemy unit (one of their ranged creeps) that have full health, if their creep wave is pushing then they can't ever get you unless they have lich (dark ritual) because their mage won't die until it gets to your tower! They can't deny it either.
2) Use it on centaur chieftain in the forest, over 1000 hp heal. Helps in jungling.
3) In the middle of a fight use it on a creep, 400+ hp heal OR more if rax are down!
4) Not quite sure on this one but instant KO of an enemy infernal? Ez money. Haven't been able to test it =[
5) Kill an enemy necro archer (probably don't want to use it on warrior).
6) You can use it on a friendly ranged creep early game to stop your wave from pushing and deny enemies experience.
Buy Satanic, vladimir, power thread, bkb, butterfly, radiance
just buy satanic,treads,bkb,hood,heartha and hyperstone!!HOLY SHIT!!!!
or cuirass instead of hyperstone
Can he Infest Ancient neutral creeps?
@vengeful spirit
I doubt it. That would make him much too powerful, though he's already too strong as it is.
A good build would be something like:
Strength treads,
2 Bracers,
Armlet of Mordiggian,
Buriza,
and maybe a Heart of Tarrasque.
Max Feast and Open Wounds first. Once you get Infest, hit the neutrals for easy farming.
Rage is your mini BKB. Use it to escape spell damage.
All in all, This new N'aix is more balanced through the whole game, though I think Open Wounds should be nerfed.
To Icefrog: try this - when choosing hero, allow two choices (new & old naix) when clicking on naix and evrybody will be happier than ever..
WITH RAGE AND FEAST HE CAN KILL THE ANCIENT CREEPS at LV 8 IMBAHAX
you be beyond godlike when this item is
power treads(str) cranium basher2x satanic heart of tarrasque guinsoo and radiance
geez u dnt nid 2 equip n'aix wd divine rapier ! wat if u pawned equipped with rapier ? oh ur just wasting gold ,, just buy 2 bashers, vlad's offering sange & yasha treads and also 2 bracers starting frm naix's 1st level untl d last.. I just won frm the game 1 hour ago wd all the items I've just recommended, trust me 8s useful, I'm not sure f xperts would follow my recommended items hihih
To Abaygar04
weeeh u dnt nid 2 equip n'aix wd guinsoo
Dis is the items dat u can equip to n'aix !!
2 Bracers
Powertreads
Sange & Yasha
@ Cranium Bashers
Vlad's Offering
Tarrasque
or fu dnt lyk tarrasque, just buy
buriza
also try
Radiance
Don't use
Divine
Datz oL foLks
I prefer the old n'aix. His attacking abilities and skills were deadlier before than now. I wonder why they made changes with N'aix. They could have just made another hero
very weak early game i dont like usig this character, although i admit im no pro at this guy
i luv his ult. in old version...
6.49 so problem 4 me...
N'aix vs rootfellen who will win if the players is balanced both are pro
i like the new N'aix. Much better from the old one
TwinsBladesHero....
gv me 5 reason why u like Naix in new version...
i`m so troble when vs with VIPER...
so suck...
1st of all the old naix was imba as hell late game. Unstopable with a bkb since he never got touched by spells, which is 75% of dota.
The new naix has open wounds which allows your entire team to gain life back while ganking a target. Very fucking nice.
Feast is godlike, i went against a centaur who had about 3.8k life, and i was at about 1k and i attacked him, raged through his stun and within a matter of seconds i brought him down to half life and I was back to around 75%. Since your first attack on someone like that would steal 266 life and deal 266 bonus damage. He was down like 350 life on the first attack.
1st attack +266
2nd attack +242
3rd attack around +217.
So in the time of rage in about 2 seconds i dealt 725 bonus damage.
2nd attack
lol...power threads
vladimirs offering
assault cuirass
hot
kai eimaste tsita
kavatzwthikame episimws...
This guy is the man with Satanic! HARDCORE LIFE STEAL! YAHOO!
-assualt curiass
-tread
-Heart
The new n'aix has lots of people divided on items, but I think I have found the best build for him:
2xBracers
Strength Power Treads
Vanguard
Crainium Basher
Assault Cuiras
The reasons for this is that he SHOULD NOT BUY DAMAGE ITEMS!!!!!
Sounds strange, but really, if you think about it, getting damage items is a bit pointless for n'aix. The reason for this is the change in his lifesteal skill. It now does lifesteal based on your opponents hp, rather than a percentage of your damage. This means that your damage does not improve the amount of life you steal!!!!!!!!!!
You should instead buy attack speed items, as this is the best way to improve your lifesteal, as you will do it more often......
boots of travel
assult currias
heart of tarasque
heart of tarasque
Satanic
armlet of mordiggan
items when you are super reach total destruction
someone please make a good strategy for this charactar. this character is pretty different to others it would be a bit interesting.
someone please make a good strategy for this charactar. this character is pretty different to others it would be a bit interesting.
I played with this hero 31-3 in eurobattle.My items are
BoT
Satanic
Vladimir's
Terrasque
MKB
Assault Cuirass
i just got done a game with this build:
str powertreads 1850
MoM 2000
vladamirs 2400
basher 3220
morrigan 2850
assault 6120
18440 total. pwned so hard.
damn man this new Naix is too damn POWERFUL in every part of the game I just cant lose wit him but i cant c any hero that can beat him in 1v1 exept butcher (if well fed)
THE BEST LATE GAME HERO
TRY THIS!!! PT, HOT AND 2X BURIZA!! THINK ABOUT THE LIFESTEAL WHEN HE DOES CRITICAL
@sumguy yes thats right he is a very good 1on1 hero.If you want me to i can make a strategy for him.
p.s btw juggernaut,luna and leoric can probably beat him.
no!!!
I fucked yurnero with this hero easily
But luna can beat him
no strategy yet for naix.
i really like to read a strategy on how to use naix on the newer versions.
no strategy yet for naix.
i really like to read a strategy on how to use naix on the newer versions.
NAIX NAIX NAIX!!!!!!!!!! Is this hero good or bad????? why the skills change a lot from the old one ~_~? can anyone tell me why!!!!!
im currently mastering my naix and i have discovered one trick... when infest is at level 2 u can now use it on your enemy creeps. if your HP bar is now red try this, open wound your enemy creep (you can also use this on the neutral creeps) then infest it and go out as soon as you have infest it... look at your HP bar it will became full again. again open wound infest then go out... try it...
;ater i will post some of my strategies concerning this guy. im on my experimental stage, and im starting to love this hero.
i suggest that if you use naix u need to buy a helm of dominator, why? because if your enemy has a low hp an you also have low hp ur lifesteal will have no use anymore... 7% of current HP is not enough, 16% of total damage will be good enough, you can see what im talking about when you try to 1 on 1 abbadon and rexar.
all u need is
satanic or vlads(cost wize)
treads
armlet (u have life steal)
bkb (nukers)
s&y(ups stats and attackspeed)
HoT(tanking if got satanic)
satanic
mkb
bashier
treads
vladmirs offering
heart of tarasque
armlet
satanic
helm of the dominator/vladmirs
treads/travel
assult cuiras
heart of tarasque
wtf is with bashers.. its so cheap theres no skill in perma bash. the only skill required is farming the stupid items up. this hero potential and capabilities is more then enough to get godlike without this item.
you can also try
Satanic
HoT
BoT
Basher
Basher
Vladimirs
BoT
Assault currias
satani
heart of t
heart of t
mKB
awww man y did they have to change him, the old N'aix was so much better!
pls don't even try to put bashers on him... all you need to do is pump up his attack speed and HP... don't even bother try to give him superb damage because his lifesteal is different now...
ow?! it is much better if u give him more damage..im sure with dat!!!
Nope, don't give him too much attackpower, because his lifesteal relies on how High the enemy's hp is and not of your attackpower.
@ Divine_Raper
I completly agree with you, his ulti is a laugh now, I prefered the old Naix with all his passivs and only the one-click-ulti-ownage thing
The New Naix is better then old one!
Also for the gameplay, everybody could own with this hero because he was a 1-click-hero. Just cast Avater. So any noobs could own with him.
if anyone makes a strategy for N'aix, ima shoot him, writing one right now :P
although i think the new naix was a good think for dota. (like many said noobs could easily own with old naix).
but old naix was a no-way-to-escape and this new naix my god cant chase even the no-boots heroes. the passive slow is now a 4 seconds slow?! wtf
Halfthought, then u have to shoot me cause i am making one for him at this moment
Well to tell you the truth, this n'aix is much more better than before.
I have once played with the old n'aix.But this new n'aix gives me afeeling that i, a complete noob. can win from a stronger enemy.
and it did happen. i challenged my friend who was using centaur. and i won from him easily. Same case with kel'thuzad.
So I love this new n'aix so much.
Hey, greater bash. could you make the strategies quicker. coz i'm gonna shoot you in behalf of halfthought. I will really appreciate it
.
could n'aix won with ulfsaar in 1 vs 1 combat?
no...few heros can.
oh um, right now im working on pics...hardest part lol
oh btw, all these builds suck, if you dont have a armlet of mordigannos :)
start with treads and bracers(3)
basher
vlads
sny (crazy movement and attackspeed)
basher
crysalis(cheap crit)
easy cheap and godly....last game i got this i was 9-2 winning 1v3s easy i was doing over 300 damage with perma stun leach and crit for little cost
I think you need to put all the life steal items first once I tried to do it and naix regence very fast no need to go home
items I tried
satanic
battle fury
assault currias
vanguard
etc
items I tried
satanic
battle fury
assault currias
vanguard
etc
this hero can really fight the old map (6.49) secret boss kael the invoker not the new 6.50 wan... the secret boss who has 50000 plus life... all u need is heart and assult... and a lvl 5 dagon for a courier it helps in killing it...
can someone post a strategy for him???
Basher
Cuirass
Manta
Travel
Raidiance
Butterfly
has this hero been rmk
Best item for naix?
ahm
SANGE AND YASHA..
TREADS...
ARMLET OF MORDIGGIAN?
CUIRRAS
TARAS
BURIZA
dont no if it is so killer!
I love this new 6.49 N'aix
he can neutral creeping at lvl 1!!!
beat Golem lvl 5 almost without damage!!!
if you play 4vs4, just take the Feast skill and buy 2 stout shield,then...happy hunting!!!
btw, my item build are :
»treads/travel (but i think he need attack speed to owning)
skadi
»hyperstone -> cuirass if you rich enough
»HoT---> to reach 3000+ HP
»radiance (battle fury not effected by his 7% current HP bonus damage)
» sugar,spice, and everything nice!
i wonder...
why almost everybody thinks he need more lifesteal? doesn't feast is BEYOND lifesteal? he needs SLOW!!!!
doesn't armlet of mordiggian risking his own life? if he get stunned it will be a suicide!
I think his killing combo is:
» hit!
» Rage!!
» if the enemy wants to run, Open Wounds!!!
» may be if you could play with kellen's dagger, just blink to the escaping hero
oh,i said enemy, NOT enemies
don't let stunners to backup your target hero,cause it will useless
P pErFECTO BUID:
2 bracer
powertreads
MOM
2 basher
Vanguard!!!!!!!!! owning
lupeman u suck
u can't even name null tailsman and u want to call others a noob. u go round commenting on every hero and i guess ur comments are useless. don't comment on other ppl when u are a noob. just like at the qop comments section geez
what
i like the former nai'x... much stronger, more imba than the new nai'x...
-power thread
-bracer
-satanic
-assault cuirass(
)
-radiance
-heart of tarasque
Nulls Talisman, grants 3 in every stat and 6 in intelligence. Got to love the hate comments.
A Funny Thought:
if you use infest and then doombringer came to devour that creep, it would be hiliarous if u stayed inside doombringer and got killed. of course, once devoured naix comes out.
Has anyone ever used infest in a sneaky way to get kills b4? use it in the enemies neutral creep spawn area or when a lane with the other teams rax r down, jump in a ranged creep and wait for a hero to come
usually it will be one hero who 1. needs to farm or 2. has good aoe, but poor hero killing ability. usually they dont expect to be ganked when theres creeps right at there base, so they will tank the creeps and let their hp go down a bit. thats when u come out and rape them when they r on low hp
rain9441, I couldn't say it any better than you did.
S&Y
Vladimir's
Assualt Curiass
Heart of Tarrasque
Black King Bar?
Boots of Travel
Threads
S&Y
EOS
2 Vlads
HoT
You can't put 2 orbs, dude; and the Vlads don't stack either
if u guys r so smart wont one of u write a strat cuz im getting confused here
i wrote one it is waiting approval ;)
@Greater Bash:
Rats, I was experimenting on Naix to write a strat on him
@ rllian
Then i got lucky i had that idea earlier then you
But still keep practising. There is plenty of room left for 2 strategies. Or is it because of the first N'aix strategy?
I also was aiming for that and he was one of my favorites so...
will somebody PLEASE MAKE A STRATEGY GUIDE FOR THIS HERO...... i have such a hard time using this new naix as his immunity is so sh
