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Strategies:Thunderfall`s Guide to Lion, the Demon Witch posted by maxi12 on 2006-08-17Shadow's King Of The Forest posted by shoikatroy on 2007-05-25 |
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witch is better drain mana yum yum!! or voodoo RRRR kill you???
drain mana is good......voodoo is a waste of mana
GOOD HERO...he has good combo(mana grain+woodoo)if u r skilled,u can kill allmost every enemy...
voodoo cant kill you literally speaking, its just used to delay an enemy to figure out your next move. drain mana is a big helpfor you not to go back to the fountain to gain lost mana.
What does Aghanim do for his ulti?
Voodoo is quite good, if you're in team with hero who deals high melee damage...
lion is one of the best one on one
all of his skills are good, use voodoo to one hero then finger a nother and ulti, refresh, ulti, double kill.
Drain Manna is the useless skill it leaves you vulnerable to attacks since its channeling. The points are better spent in other skills. Impale,Hit,Voodoo,Hit,Guinsoo`s Scythe of Vyse,Hit,Impale,Hit,Finger=Wtf Just Happened
I'd have to say his ultimate build would have to include Aghanims, refresher, scythe, and boots of travel. That's a combo that can keep people stunned and deal like 4000 damage.
Although if you have that much gold, you could just try and bribe the other team into throwing the game - lol.
lion's attack are unbelieveable.his attack IMPALE is the best thing to catch hold of the opponents BUTTTT!
THE RAPIER IS THE BEST CHOISE FOR WITCH FOR A ASS KICKING DAMAGE.FOR MANA THERE IS AGHANIMS SCEPTER.
believe it.ain't no joking BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
heavy nuker yet... needs micro... of course boost up his HP and armour too.. vanguard is the answer..
SPEAKING OF VANGUARD ITS GOOD IN PROTECTION FOR EVERY HERO.
wtf? is that a glitch. his damge is 42-28. is it supposed to be taht way?
i once owned a leoric on 1on1 by getting
mana drain. I maxed it out along with impale so he cant reincarnate,
too vulnerable while channeling though... better get stats than this.
Finger of Death make me mad.
Lion is really best on 1on1,
but who do you think guys is the best hero against lion?? can u give some idea...
finger of death = first blood at early game
@Greedygood
Improves damage by about 200. [i highly doubt you're gonna chekc here again but OH WELL
]. Lion is one of the BEST early game hero killers. If you get Impale/Voodoo early, wait till greedy enemy cahse you to proximity of your own tower, Impale---->tower takes potshots along wif you---->Voodoo when impale done----->FULL DAMAGE OUCH.
or if you got Imaple/Mana drain. Mana drain so your enemy can't cast/link his/her spells, then impale, and F.o.D, GUARANNTEED KILL. unless anti mage stokced up on spell reduction.
what is the best item build for lion on level to 8
what is the best item build for lion on level 1 to 8
SOMEONE HELP! PLEASE
How to kill this bloody bastard or who is the best char to choose. He start killing on LVL 6 (OMG) and if he have Perseverance, Desolator, Hyperstone he is unstoppable bloody killing machine (Combo like Impale, attack, voodoo, attack, Finger of Death ... and you can do nothing about it.
why do they call him demon WITCH he's a guy right shouldn't they call him the demon wizard???
mana drain is the most useless and pathetic spell in dota. level 4 gives you 350 mana. You can do notinhg with it. And all the mana doesnt get transferred. So no point
you do know that it is used at early games and not on heroes but on enemy creeps it is usually used to spam impale
Mana drain only for early game harrasing, thats bout it
hey guys! have ever tried making an agi build for lion instead of int build? try it guys. S&Y, deso, soul, threads, kabum!! hitting the enemy for six seconds because of ur disabling skills,, u might not need the finger to kill the enemy..
also vanguard is required for lion...
and if you can buy a hyperstone pls do.. believe me, with this agi build for lion, i killed a centaur warchief with his full HP at late game... 1vs1. he wasn't even able to touch me..hahahaha.
don't mind the orb effects of deso and S&Y.. buy S&Y first before deso.. the maim effect of S&Y will be overide by the deso..but it doesn't matter.you don't need the maim..you can disable your enemy for six seconds..impale,hit,hit,vodoo,hit,hit,hit,hit,hit,hit, and if the enemy is still alive,, finger!! bwahahaha...
la lang
whyd u get the SnY if u didnt want the Maim? just movement and attack speed?
if you can move and attack faster at the beginning, it would be easy for you to farm... plus the s&y gives you pls stats
one ultimate orb can take care of the stats gained. gettin SnY for the sole reason of movement and attack speed is stupid. Assualt cuirass is the better choice
Dota n lng D yung nag-cocomment p kau!!!!!!!!!!
Kung my GG kau Add Nyo n lng ako foodforthought is my name
I really like this hero cause every skill is very usefull,the only problem is its low hp.If you can manage to get aganim at lvl 11 you should go for the heart and its gg.
mana Dran is better for Skeliten King.
stupid witch...my magina will break you...
Magina would get killed if he doesnt attack fast enough.
Get him ac and refresher and he is gg
GO LION LOL
Drain mana
with a refresher, guinsoo and aghanims, he would become too overpowered. he can only pick off one hero at a time though, so lion is rather useless in team battles.
Not really cause of his stun get him refresher guinshoo and ac with an dagon just to make him extra uber haha
who said voodoo sucks.combo=inpale+ wack him+voodoo+wack him(if he survives)+finger of death
Another great item for him is guinsoo
he can cast:
-impale (2sec)
-damage (1sec +damage when impale)
-guinsoo (4 sec)
-damage (1sec+damage when animal)
-voodoo (4 sec)
-damage (1sec +damage when animal)
-impale (2 sec)
-damage (1 sec +damage when impaled)
-finger of death
a great combo.
but first equippe aghanims (max ulti 1050 damage)
which is better lich, faceless void, n'aix, abadon or lion????????????????????
lich = Multi killer
faceless void = good against all high DPS, low hp heroes
n'aix = Late gamer
abbadon = Mid gamer
lion = 1 vs 1 kind of hero
lupeman ur such a fucking idiot, he is mainly a disabler
Hi, can anyone can give me an item build for Lion plz include power treads and Aghanim and Refresher...
lion! my most fave hero! soooo fun to play! hehe i dont get power threads, aghanim and refresher. sori ahmad dota. ",
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well furion what do u get ?? and in late game what are u going to do without a refresher if ur facing a str hero like pudge ?
My Build:
1. Euls scepter(then Guiinsoo)
2. Dagon if ur having a shitty game which is likely to happen(more regen and easy kill wen double sheeped)
3. I usually go Power treads, but he really slow..soo BoT.
4. Aghanims scepter (more hp and mana count, plus good for ulti)
5. Mechanism
6. Blood stone, substitute for linkens.
good build, as far as a good support and a hero killer.
yawa mo
Does impale reduce your armor...???
Posted by Deadparrot
2007-08-22
lupeman ur such a fucking idiot, he is mainly a disabler
couldnt agree more!
i like lina more than lion
i think using dagon is better than scepter.. dont u think so ?
at the early start of the game dagon can be a big threat to lions enemy.. dagon + finger = ouch
* aghanims, refresher,
h0t or vanguard for Hp
Aganihm's Scepter
Eye of Skadi
Shiva's Guard
Assualt Curiass
Dagon 5/Refresher's Orb
Boots of Travel
yo,man he got Finger Of Death man
I love that haha...
bah u can go agi build on him for late game efficiency.
My build is Agahnim, treads, stygian deso,Buriza, guinsoo and cuirass.
ummmmm....killer? duble killer? triple killer? yepo, perfect for inexperienced. *just learn how to click and then its gg* gr8 hero
mana problem though.. can anyone fix this problem because i always, always run out.. ulti ownage , one item i would buy is blink dagger early game.. transform then impale, then drain then 2 hit kill , (specially agility heroes) ulti if needed 4 tank. buy dagon and bloodstone, arcane ring and...treads and.,......shiva's guard and....
refresher orb!
to....
umm is there a way 4 razor to totally own lion like hell? i mean beyond godlike ownage
lion has more strategic skills than razor so i'd go for lion.
at first razor is my fave hero but now ...Lion rocks..impale->voodoo->finger of death->dagon ....
do aghanim's stack?
Skill Build:
1. Impale2
2. Voodoo
3. Impale2
4. Voodoo
5. Impale2
6. Finger of Death
7. Impale2
8. Voodoo
9. Voodoo
10. Stats
11. Finger of Death
12. Stats
13. Stats
14. Stats
15. Stats
16. Finger of Death
17. Stats
18. Stats
19. Stats
20. Stats
21. Stats
22. Mana Drain
23. Mana Drain
24. Mana Drain
25. Mana Drain
Did voodoo is helpful to lion or not?
stupid lion. my lucy will kill him
it's so funny when someone dies to the "finger of death" because it's like they'd rather die than take such and insult or they couldn't stand the humiliation and died. Still this guy is a very rude individual. i mean to make your ultimate the finger???
endgame loser i think
can linkens sphere block lions finger of death?
I dont get some people. But what i do get is Demon Witch's skills. easy Godlike with him/her, Gr8 item build here:
*If randomed, start with two bracers
* Then go for pot in lane.
* Buy boots, then build for sceptre or Dagon.
* When you have 1 of the two, go kill...
* Then after a few kills build for BKB, yes BKB.
*BKB isfor nt being killed while killing others.
So your build should end up being:
=BoT
=2 Bracers
=Sceptre
=Dagon
=BKB
Happy Hunting
optional buying the refresher is better than dagon5 do impale finger impale finger dead....
start with Soul booster because he`s low HP then buy oblivion for guinsoo
Aghanims
Dagon 5
Guinsoooo
HOT
Refresher
BOT
Impale,Hit,Hit,Finger of death,Hit,Hex,mana drain,Guinsoo's,refresher,Finger PURE OWNAGE
Lol awesome hero perfect for owning early game get 3 null talisman and power threads. mid get Aghanims, refresher. late get assault cuirass and scepter. common finger --> refresher --> finger --> impale2 --> OWNAGE this does 2360 if he still survives do voodoo then own his asssss!!!!
magina should easy rape lion any time.
hod and bkb gets the job done.
10 seconds of mana burn hits will be enough to force lion to run away
the mana drain info is wrong...
Lion's armor is very weak, so try to build assault cuirass...
Voodoo, then drain. Impale upon recovery then finish with finger.
if you are running away, finger then impale.
Voodoo, then drain. Impale upon recovery then finish with finger.
if you are running away, finger then impale.
voodoo then drain. Finger when he recovers, then impale and run.
last skill is too strong...
My late game item build...
1.Boots of Travel
2.Aghanim's Scepter
3.Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse
4.Eye of Skadi
5.Shiva's Guard
6.AEGIS
gets you 15 SECOND DISABLE. Buy guinsoo, then voodoo-impale-sheep-voodoo-impale= 15 seconds
early game :
you must use drain mana. use it on magi creep. and harass with impale.
mid game : use impale, finger and dagon
late game : use hex(guinsoo), voodoo, impale, finger, dagon and finger(with refresher).
and look that word :OWNİNG
i like this when i combine with last skill and with max dagon it is fking painful
ONE OF MY FAVORITE HEROES CAUSE HE IS A KILLER BUT I KNOW WHAT ITEM CAN DEFEAT ALL INT. DEFIANCE
MY ITEMS BUILD FOR HIM:
AGHANIMS
DAGON 5
VANGUARD
DEFIANCE
DESOLATOR
BOT
lina and lion is the best when ur in 2on2 match.. i build lina and lion with the same item..
1.BoT/P.treads
2.stygian deso
3.dagon
4.aghanim's
5.MKB/butterfly
6.Refresher orb
lion and lina is also gud in lvl..lol..its sure "HOLY SHIT'..BEYOND GODLIKE
wahahahaahah
pros: A good killer during mid-games...
Has a painful damage for those who
has a low hp
cons: Will do nothing during late games
for your adversaries will have
such as defiance...
but no big deal
Lion rule!!!!
wahahahaahah
pros: A good killer during mid-games...
Has a painful damage for those who
has a low hp
cons: Will do nothing during late games
for your adversaries will have
such as defiance...
but no big deal
Lion rule!!!!
oh no tym for ur sunder terrorblade
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