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Strategies:[Necrolyte] A guide to owning with Rotund'jere posted by nazarite on 2007-06-28Nasty Necro posted by Bryant Pham on 2007-01-24 |
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Limit your discussions to Rotund`jere - The Necrolyte.
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boot os travel, refresher, aghanim's, linken, buriza will do...
nah Aghanims first then Dagon, Guinsoo, Refresher, BoT.
just get dagon fist then get guinsoo the necrolyte strong enought
Aghanim first then a guinsoo and a dagon. improve his ulti to deal more damage
Aghanim and then Refresher. Necro has got 1 really good attack spell, his ulti. U must use THIS to killlll!!!
Ulti is imba...I hate playing against Necro because of it...you're basically dead if you have half life, even if you're owning him.
By far one of the best heroes in dota, imo. Overall goodness and excellent skills.
Diffusion aura doesnt really seem to make a difference in late game and sometimes even in early game. That makes it a 9/10
aghanims isnt necessecary until late game. i got BoT, soul booster (later aghanims) dagon, refresher, and if it goes on longer a cyclone stick
very good!!! thx for share
setoxc, diffusion aura is a great support skill. You can take a pretty big beating and keep on healing your mates with death pulse (also damaging enemies).
My friend likes using this guy
He says that yurnero the juggernaut
is a great ally for him
is that true.
6 outta 10
wow, his ulti is like almost an insta kill
if enemys are 55% of life or less = insta kill =X
with aghanims... no one should go near him with half HP...
Why are you giving rankings. Its a HERO. IN THE GAME. Are you trying to change things or something I feel so confused... And dagon is only good if rushed. Otherwise its puny. Get it as first core item.
yep... kinda need dagon first cos his death pulse range is quite short
Quite hard to use. agree or disagree?
OMG this guy is AWESOME...
hi ULTI is so good to be true...
as far as i know you only need to get your enemies life to half then they're DEAD
his ultimate is preposterous.
too strong, should be nerfed.
Toinskie - nope..
@noob28
umm ok fine he has to have the scepter
BoT linkens maybe blood stone Guinsoo Mek thats al lu need the staffs(Dagon nd Aghhnims arnt needed) and bracers will keep you alive with the mek
I tried the dagon approach a few times and i don't like, any other item builds for this guy that are more mm... useful? Dagon-scythe is so effective but its literally putting your whole hero into wtfpwning one guy. Walk up to a guy, pulse, dagon, scythe, +250 gold. But the next guy comes along and you cant do anything >
8 sec cooldown on DP
hmmm... imagine him in WTF mode. lost 100hp, lost 200hp, lost 400hp, lost 800hp, lost 1600hp, lost 3200, death.
Hyperstone,Burizado,Satanic,Refresher,Boots of travel,Sceptre
WE HAVE Rotund'jere-The NecroAssassin
bryant pham put some Items into that strategy of your's!!!!!!!!!
Dun Noob la fucker pepek long
haha noob
zzzzzzu pro
One of the best ulti an hero's in the game!
one disadvange..has very low movement speed
Bot asap ! thats all =) 2 bracers euls and bot =)
300 movement speed is average for heroes.
i wouldve replaced bracers with couple of circlets, its cheaper and u can always use death pulse to heal urself if needed to (if u position urself right, u can kill some enemy creeps as well and get some mana back from Sadist)
ever tried DP, then dagon, reaper's scythe, refresher orb and repeat the process? It shud kill any1.
to make tis hero super gay
mekanism,dagon,,aghanim and refresher can own u opponent to death.Even Though Death Pulse Heal u,when facing tanker u can use mekansim to make ur opponent flare up and death pulse again,dagong,ulti...ifnv die
refresher orb and ulti can do the trick...save dagon for another hero incase they suddenly appear from nowhere...
tis may not be the best way to kill but is one ofthe way to OWN UR opponent...
(ulti) pretty pointless to use with full hp hero lol, without scepter, ulti would not kill a half hp hero rite?
what about HoT?
at early game you should purchase atleast only bracers and den dagon1, meka, euls, aghanims, den put your euls into guinsoo den no one can stop dis hero with that..
simple..
so someone explain how diffusion aura works.
do enemies within 300 range... take away their armor? hp? or sipmley damage taken by Necrolyte?
how does it help you take a bigger beating? is it by taking away their damage stats?
the damage gets reduced. i love death pulse + sadist. provides unlimited mana and health, oh yea!
um raped
try this guy in a ban all map wtf mode, death pulse rox lol
my favorite hero for all str type!
Guys... try this out. THis is my "walking team fountain" build: arcane, boots, mekansm, eul's, skadi, finish guinsoo, finish boots of travel, and then sell arcane and get whatever fits your fancy. Your team will WORSHIP you for the constant mana and hp boosts and emergency 250hp + armor from mekansm. Also helps keep the whole team alive much, much longer during pushes if you keep spamming death pulse. Idea is to keep healing team while they bring other guys within hp range of your ulti. hehe... gg
my fave and first hero! could be a pusher, killer or support. ",
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last items i used:
1. guinsoo
2. BoT
3. Linken
4. Eye of Skadi
5. Aganim
6. Hyperstone
i killed centaur more than 5 times with 1 Hot on him
imagine this guy and magina together on the same side
one gives damage for mana miss and the other one for life miss
even if you have a million HP once it gets to 500000 HP ure sure to die
dude this hero woops but but like who is his nemesis like what attribute i dont know what type of hero to use when against intel except for anti mage. so who is the other good people against intel?? please some one help me?
Get a refresher with aghanim
anyone with 3/4 his life its an instant kill haha
Pudge is an anti-intel hero. So is Rikimaru and Anti-mage. Lots of anti-intel heroes, just be smart.
refresher is kinda a risk, u wont always knock down two heroes down to half health and can waste ur money. some heroes can tank multiple spells and physical damage but still hav something like 70% health left
oh yes Pudge can definitely do this-I've seen it
good in 1v1
I call this guy the tank-buster. I watching love 5k hp centaurs run around like they own the place then get murdered once they get below 50%.
Almost as imba as Terrroblade in 1vs1... Dagon-Ulti early on is just unfair, and most Mage-Killers/Permabashers cannot match his pushing ability.
Not to mention he usually has a herd of creeps around him... and can use Euls to kill yours and heal right under your butt.
Images come to mind, but are easily beaten/distinguished by DP.
Pudge can work IF you hook him out of his creeps and kill before he diables.
Axe maybe... hard call.
ei...how about in an early game? with lvl 1 Reaper's could you kill a half-life-d opponent? considering that you are in a close range of Levels
early game, support, late game killer. (if u buy dagon, then its early game killer also, but wont work on strength heroes, dagon, reaper usually works for intel and few agility heroes)
cool hero
Aganihm's Scepter
Dagon 5
Shiva's Guard
Eye of Skadi
Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse
Boots of Travel
this hero is owning hahs.
OMG this hero owns!!!
his 1st skill follow his enemys ass and kick it
aganims, guinsoo, threads of int, refresher then high damaging items like stygian or radiance.... actually, you can buy deso early in the game if you farm in the best way that you can then start creating aganims then your godly.... by the way, diffusion aura is not useless in late game.....imagine, 36% damage reduction on every opponent surrounding you.
aganims, guinsoo, threads of int, refresher then high damaging items like stygian or radiance.... actually, you can buy deso early in the game if you farm in the best way that you can then start creating aganims then your godly.... by the way, diffusion aura is not useless in late game.....imagine, 36% damage reduction on every opponent surrounding you.
items for necrolyte:
1.Bot - increased movement speed
2.Aghanims Scepter - more damage and mana boosts ultimate
3.Dagon - for high HP heroes ull need this for them to lose some HP
4.Orchid Malevolence - inc. attack speed and silence
5.Shiva's guard - increase your armor and it goes well w/ ur diffusion aura, 200 damage and slows enemies for 40% since u don't have stun this is quite usefull for chasing or escaping
6.HoT - so you would last longer or something like that
Necro has to be one of the most imba heroes there are. Even without items, he can still own the game. Death Pulse does a whopping 275 AoE damage and 130 AoE heal every 5 seconds. Reaper's Scythe alone generally means a sure kill for opponents with less than half HP (and try topping that off with Dagon!)... If he's paired up along with Bloodseeker, the result is clearly SURE DEATH.
i just started really trying to play necro and hes so awesome late game with the build i have.
early game:
go either boots or treads, maybe BoT if u need it but with treads u can do so much physical damage to people. then you can either go meka or just tech up straight to guinsoo.
Late game: have guinsoo, orchid, treads or BoT, BKB, Skadi, and either buriza or aghamins.... its my battle necro build.
After completing aghanim's, what would you guys farm for next? Many of you like refresher, but what do you guys think of guinsoo's/shiva/orchid instead?
i would get stygian
to all weaks.lol .lol... hhehhe sorry for the word maybe i see rtdjere is tough coz of its thrd skill first bild a vanguard and its based on the enemy if u will use a vanguard then make a ginsoo if wats so ever even without any itm it can kill after ginsoo make a desolater to lessen armor and make damage
try using HOD,vanguard,euls,linken,heart with him,ur sertified killer...all he needs is armor,hp n mana regen bec of his death pulse n diffusion aura..36% reduction...mind that..then farm with skadi..damage is not so impt to him,just depend on your deathpulse having 5 sec cool down...his very hard to face 1 on 1..just beware of stunners n permabahers..
i don't get refresher with him, my money is better spent upgrading dagon, so my ult will work fine the FIRST time.
BoT, aghanims, blink dagger, dagon 1-2-3-4-5
my items try it...hehe
1.BoT
2.Dagoon
3.aghanims
4.radiance
5.guinsoo
6.assault
hay!!!
maayo gid ni pangpush kag support
tig a pa ya
butangan mo ni radiance + skill 3,unlimited gid mana mo bord
tapos my ice cream in cone ka kag kag refresher..y na gd,tudas gd mga kontra mo
1. Arcane ring
2. Guinsoo
3. BoT
4. Aghanim's
5. skadi/deso
6. hot
Instead of Aghanim's, you should seriously consdier Skadi. It is just a myth that half life= dead. The damage is not pure or like Axe's Ulti. It is reduced by magic reduction and all heroes have at least 25%.
So your enemy need to have at least 40.3% life (without magic reduction item at level 4) With Aghanim's ur enemy needs to have at least 45%. So it actually doesnt improves a lot.
Skadi gives about the same stat and also a frost attack. Necro has no stun+slow so i think skadi is good 4 him
u guys all fail its, skadi, BOT, aghnim's if farmed well a dagon
u guys all fail its, skadi, BOT, aghnim's if farmed well a dagon
Just 2 items to him! Aghanism and Dagon lvl 5.Cast dagon and then ulti and then let the opponent cry
Build straight for Radiance.
Boots of travel
Mystic Staff = Sceptre or Guinisoo (depending on game situation)
Sceptre and Dagon
Shivas or Skadi
Radiance shoudl be a must coz 3 secs in creep wave then 1 Death Pulse eliminates it..
Very handy
this is my 2nd and my ultimate hero! he rockz!!!
my items:
Aghanim's Scepter
Dagon 5
Assault Cuirass
Boots of Travel
Refresher Orb
Eye of Skadi
And only noobs won't put Aghamin's on him, it improves his ultimate!!! and DP chases his enemies like to the edge of the Earth!
All NOOBS!!
No AGHANIM! It only adds 0.2 damage per life loss. 1000 life loss only deals 200 damage ==> useless. Its too expensive dont get that.
NO REFRESHER! CD is 210 sec. Necro's ulti is 70 sec. Can use it 3 times before CD is over!
Don't get BOT as first item. Bonus 40 movement speed of 350 is only 10% increase. Not till late game for travel.
The only way Necro can win every single fighter and magic caster is to tank.
1. BOT
2. Dagon
3. Guinsoo
4. Shiva Guard
5. Heart
6. Cuirass
Trust me this build makes Necro godly.
He has unlimited mana from guinsoo dagon and shiva. Regain life indefinitely from pulse and heart. Melee hero becomes useless against necro (Mega armor and diffusion aura). Every hero stare hopelessly while undead Necro push alone with the multitude of creeps.
Trust me this build makes Necro godly.
He has unlimited mana from guinsoo dagon and shiva. Regain life indefinitely from pulse and heart. Melee hero becomes useless against necro (Mega armor and diffusion aura). Every hero stare hopelessly while undead Necro push alone with the multitude of creeps.
Trust me this build makes Necro godly.
He has unlimited mana from guinsoo dagon and shiva. Regain life indefinitely from pulse and heart. Melee hero becomes useless against necro (Mega armor and diffusion aura). Every hero stare hopelessly while undead Necro push alone with the multitude of creeps.
Trust me this build makes Necro godly.
He has unlimited mana from guinsoo dagon and shiva. Regain life indefinitely from pulse and heart. Melee hero becomes useless against necro (Mega armor and diffusion aura). Every hero stare hopelessly while undead Necro push alone with the multitude of creeps.
anything at half life is at risk!
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
holy maccaroni!!!
Best setup so far was already posted by weezing22arbok but some noobs came after that thinking "No Aghanim's, Necro should TANK"..
Lite-version of that setup would be:
-BoS
-Dagon (1)
-Aghanim's
-Refresher
Costs around 15k only. Head up to your opponent and use Dagon-->Ulti--->Refresh-->Repeat.
After a couple of these, the game is over or you've upgraded into the elite-version and will be ending the game rather quickly.
i prefur a first; sobi mask than dragon 1 ,2 and then aghanm`s than dragon3 and than skadi
i prefur: 1, sobimask 2, dragon 1, 3, dragon 2, aghanims then dragon 3, en and guisoo
I think u should go mass recipe scrolls for him trust me it works
Really really pwns hard in -wtf mode.
Spam death pulse ftw
@ nic7410 : wtf dude read your stats 1.1 per missing hp is the shiz coz if you F**King opposing hero is on yellow bar hp, you will kill him.
Start with boots, RoB, Trees(2) farm
This ist eh dude for ap.
*radiance
*Sceptre
*Guinisoo
*DAgon *sigh*
*shivas / skadi
wtf is with you noobs and your HoTS?
DONT i repeat DONT get a refresher
This guy will Lyte the way
