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Strategies:Bring the Pandamonium! posted by asdfjjj on 2007-03-12blooo's guide to "The Eye of the Panda" posted by blooo on 2007-07-09 |
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Limit your discussions to Mangix - The Pandaren Battlemaster.
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good for tanking, almost unkillable hero if used properly
Could sum1 make a guide 4 this hero????
someone make a guide
this hero is way better if he's an AGI type..... i used him and i say cool................ nice with thebutterfly,battlefury,tarrasque threads and Hyperstone or MKB or S&Y
hey hey hey, de ulti's too short...
HEY!!! IVE LEARNED A NEW BUILD TO PANDAREN!!! Firstly farm fast 4 kelens then skadi!!! The combo goes like this... Blink-clap-split-attack... Witk skadi, it would be hard 4 ur enemy to run!!! then u have enough tym to switch pandas then use the hurl boulders of the earth panda to stun then ur enemy would be really hurt w/ the the damage of the fire panda and it would be a sure kill!!! Just watch out 4 blinkers and wind walkers coz they can ruin you!!!
I HATE Panda!!
suld he buy refresher?
No, don't buy refresher.
His build is simple,
Headress
Boots
Kelens
Treads
Bracerx3 (Some where in there)
MoM
Aegis/HoT (Sell Bracers Accordingly)
Radiance
sum1 please make a guide
lol i got best item build.....
Boots of travel, arcance ring (u need this so bad), kelens dagger of escape, battlefury. If it comes to late game get satanic and if its even further get heart of tarasque
this guy pisses me off wheneva hes with a low hp, high dealin damage hero.. its impossible to get a kill if this hero is around. very good support and tank hero.
You need skadi or S&Y 4 killing... $ me, skadi is a must have...
I get S&Y, blink dagger, HoT, BoT, Fury, radiance. in stead of fury you can get vadmirs offerening
his ulti is usually used to avoid dying. u regain all of ur health and make one of the pandas run back before u die.
yea the dotamaster is right, the ult is for pushing or escaping from ganks or trap kill
Not only 4 pushing, you can will primal split!!! 1st, use kelens then blink beside the enemy hero, then thunder clap, then drunken haze, then primal split, hurl boulders... Since you have skadi, the hero cant run far and could suffer a lot of damage from fire panda... I tried it, and i became UNSTOPPABLE
Oh im sorry, correction plzzz... I mean *you can kill with primal split!!!* Sorry...
I'm in the middle of making a strategy for this hero.
Primal Split is very cool skill
... if u're ganked by 2 heroes, just activate the ulti & hurl boulder on the weakest hero, hit it several times, and if that hero fleeing away, just cast cyclone & wait just below the cyclone...
when the cyclone ends just thunder clap and hit it until it dies..
i often got kills from this circumstances
love how if u are getting ganked u can just split windwalk and blink dagger until u are safe awesome for running from bad situations
plus this is also good for catching runners
10 seconds seems a bit too shrt for me............
i mean the ultimate....
I dun like him, ulti soo short
i want a strategy for this...
ulti is long enough if u can micro, and this guy is almost like a dps hero as well as being a HUGH tank with 24% evade, 7 second slow/makes them miss, huge aoe stomp, fast attack... and it's chinese! =]
get bf and santanic then it owns =]
TOO COOL A HERO
Make a guide please
PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. MAKE A GUIDE TO THIS HERO
I only like his ulti primal split
Can sum1 please make a strat 4 him?
this is my build: S&Y, a bracer, talisman, headdress, HoT, treads,..
first, buy ring of regen, couple of tangoes and clarities..
then, on the first trip to the fountain i usually have enough money to buy BoS, 1 bracer and 1 talisman.. (talisman is for the mana u need to cast drunken haze if there's an attack dependant enemy, like: drow, naix, ursa, sniper, etc... if there are no enemy like that, just buy 2 bracers and max out stats first before drunken haze)
Finally complete sange first, treads, yasha, sange & Yasha, HoT..
Skill build:1,drunken brawler, 2 tunder clap, 3 tunder clap, 4 drunken brawler, 5 tunder clap, 6 drunken brawler, 7 tunder clap, 8 drunken brawler, 9 primal split, 10 drunken haze / stat (depends on the enemy ) 11 primal split, 12-14 drunken haze/ stat (depends on the enemy)
, 15 stat/ drunken haze, 16 primal split, the rest depends on the drunken haze / stat preference
blink + clap + split + boulder + clap = GG
its a little cheaper build and seems to work pretty good by end game I had Treads MKB Vanguard Hyper Kelens then last slot I change between HoT, Aegis, if you have moneya nd wanna uber tank I go with Perseverance because Panda has real mana troubles with this build
(which also if you have lots of money can turn into Battle Fury or Linkens Or Skadi)
EDIT not Skadi for Perseverance sorry Linkens and BF though which give you either Awsome Defense or Awsome attack
blink+clap+split+boulder+taunt+firedamage+
clap--> oh well ownage again...
needs micro... i cant do it... i just saw it...
Hes famous for his ulti and drunken haze
wow 44% miss. o.o
i noticed that every time i ult its always the boulder holdin panda that mangix spawns back on
I love this hero! Though he's mana pool is rather too low, Skadi can solve it and it will make him a good hero killer. His ulti is cool and short, aside from being an escape tool versus death, is one of the hardest to control. You need a lot of practice with it. You should know which panda to use depending on the situation.
Hmm, I noticed the info about Panda here is outdated. Drunken Haze is much better now (max 75% miss), and he's called Brewmaster, I think...
Yup, its Pandaren Brewmaster... HAVE ONE ON THE HOUSE! i know because i hate this hero so much when im versin it. its impossible for me to get a kill without usin guinsoo b4 his ulti, like squee and spleen
after the split, is the three of them survive or two.. who does panda reborn into?
any panda is ur real one. to escape, hurl boulder, permanent immolation cyclone. use storm panda to run with windwalk. use earth and fire to attack other enemies because they have great attack damage,
Should i make a guide for this??
@icyjovial
Thats what ive said...
he so good
Guide created. Check it out ^
me friend sez if panda has his ulti activated, then gets swapped by vengeful spirit, he becomes one again
finally, a guide !
get sanga ,blink, yasha,s n y, hot
LoL this is one of the hardest heroes i played so far
his ulti only has 10 seconds to let you use 3 different pandas and all those 3 pandas have different skill so far ive only manage to properly execute is STORMS > CYCLONE , And EARTH > HURL BOULDER... den.. TIMES UP BACK TO NORMAL
by the time cyclones finished, ur pandas will hav disappeared :D
Tosses a target non-mechanical enemy unit into the air, rendering it unable to move, attack or cast spells and stopping others from attacking or casting on it. Lasts 20 seconds and costs 150 mana. Has a 5 second cooldown.
I don't get how the ultimate lasts only 10 seconds.. meanwhile the windwalk ability for the Wind Panda lasts 15 seconds.. haha. Don't make too much sense. Whoops.
Wheres the guide? I see no guide!!!
@ Toinkskie. hes like the most ultimate n00b hero to learn dota with. hes got a skill which can dodge and deal critical, slow, miss chance and gangbash. lol so imba. but a good starting hero for newbies.
Is it me or does Earth's taunt ability seem to never work... Split, hurl, wind walk, taunt, dispel, windwalk again, hurl again, recombine, clap. Its a monstrous combo, but the taunt doesnt do shit it seems.
...
why is all the character info here dodgy? the miss chance of drunken haze goes up each lvl
lvl 1: 45%
lvl 2: 55%
lvl 3: 65%
lvl 4: 75%
give him a butterfly.. miss..!!!!
@ akstibishin
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evasion does not stack.
and anyways 24% natural evasion + 75% miss from enemy is already more than enough
His Ulti makes him a good tanker.
If it lasted 10 seconds more, could make it the best ultimate of the whole game.
But 10 secs just isnt worth it
oohh.. thanks kkkshuffle
thats becos the 10 second is to either help u escape or guarantee u a kill or 2
who's better him or storm spirit
I always like Pandaren in 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2
battle but once I played 5vs5 and just as I
hit the split each of enemy aimed at one panda a time .Even before using Storm panda's wind walk HPs started slipping out so rapidly I didn't even understand what had struck me......
I always use Battlefury,arcane-ring,Radiance,
HOT,Linken's ,Boots of Travel/Powertreads
Later on substitute arcane with Skadi
Best Hero I could ever use besides chaos knight and sven.. a very good ally if you're an int type.. massive disable is the thing
Arcane ring is a must for this hero, and it seems that panda respawns on the panda (from the three pandas from primal spirit) with the most hp (usually the earth panda)
Goes Earth, Fire then Wind.
They should make it so that the panda with the most current hp, not largest hp pool.
So many n00bz die cos they cyclone with wind, then windwalk away while earth uses taunt and throw boulder actin as a tank, whereas fire just does massive damage.
hehe
this hero reeks..
i can always get a kill even in level1..
so as on level 3 - and so on
damage 52-29
Fresh cool air
CAN U HEARD THIS HERO CAN TAKE FACELACE, PHANTOM LANCER 1 ON 1 ????
PRO PLAYERS MAKE THESE HAPPEN
COMBOS
1. POWER TREDS
2. SANGE YASHA
3. BUTTERFLY ???
4. RADIENCE
5. SATANIC
6. BASHER
ALL OF U WONDER ABOUT BUTTERFLY
BUT ITS FOR MISS AND ATTACK SPEED ONLY.
U WILL OWN WITH THESE COMBOS
second to my fave
Sange and Yasha + Satanic? I suppose you only want SnY for movement and attackspeed. Butterfly only grants 8% more evasion and for attack speed, just get hyperstone.
This hero can beat gorgon easily if he has 2 battlefury ,tread ,2 tarrasque and linkin spuare..........
This hero can beat gorgon easily if he has 2 battlefury ,tread ,2 tarrasque and linkin spuare..........
If you have that much gold I can't even image what items the Gorgon would have
wat is tanking??heh heh... i'm just a starter in dota
a tank hero is a hero that can take lots of hits. as for panda, he's fun, but hard to co-ordinate his ulti in 10 seconds. like having 3 really tanked meepos for 10 seconds. although, meepo has same hotkeys and better slow...
learnin the hotkeys for the ulti is tricky, my memory isnt that good, i can only remember the main 4 hotkeys for any hero. plus inventory items
hey yo this hero is good but too slow....VIVA REAL MADRID CARAJO
el sevilla es mucho mejor ke el real madrid.
asdfjjj guide helps a lot
go for:
BoT
Vanguard
Eye of skadi
hyperstone
HoT
I have a question though
so with his skillz combined. . . he will basically have 99% chance an enemy will miss him, and a 72% slow on an enemy, with a chance to do crits
???
yep. thats what makes him so imba. lol.
if u get a butterfly and use drunken haze, u get 105% evasion (butterfly overrides Drunken Brawler evasion)
Panda + Diffusal Blade + Treads + Thunder Clap = Owned. In the Face.
Dont Forget BattleFury. xD!
Dont Forget BattleFury. xD!
Dont Forget BattleFury. xD!
Such a powerful hero!!!
most freakin imba ult ive ever seen, you cant kill him, cause one of the pandarens will just ww
its the earth panda that it comes bck to, no point fleeing with wind panda when ur real panda gets summond back to where earth was. its got 2 disables and one buff remover though, hurl boulder, cyclone and dispel magic
is basher good enough for this hero?
mangix is rally hard 2 "controll"
I LOVE this hero, he is just so Strong and cute.
I was reading the comments and I found some of da builds you ppl posted here was kinda weird. Like comment number 81. 2 Battlefurys? Dudee..Orb effect does not stack. My build goes like this.
HOT
2 Bashers
Satanic
Boots of speed ( For thunder clap )
Stylgian Desolater.
Some ppl put SnY with Butterfly..huh? why hav SnY wen u hav butterfly? And a 10 sec ult should be sufficient enuf. Usually 4 sec stun is enuf to kill a hero or do a seriously painful dmg. So a ten sec ult is deffinately sufficient.
i like panda, heheh i like mangix good hero, though, real killer
Mangix - The Pandaren Battlemaster
Range: 100 | Move Speed: 300
Primary: STR
Str: 23 + 2.9 | Agi: 16 + 1.95 | Int: 14 + 1.25
DAMAGE: 52 – 29 | HP: 587 | Mana: 182
HP Regen: 0.94 | Mana Regen: 0.57
Attack Speed: 1.43 | Armor: 3
Hey! some correct that damage plz 52 - 29??? thats not possible
With this hero, can u go manta? like u do manta style and have 3 images of ur self, then with the real one, your do ur primal split. Or does that not work? cause if it did, that would be nice with 2 pandas and 3 element pandas on ur side
i never really thought of panda as a hero killer, I would usually only get a handful of kills per round, unless they were noobs. But heres an item that makes panda a killer: shivas guard. For one, it increases ur armor which is good for a tank-type hero. It also increases panda's very low mana pool. It helps set up your thunder clap by slowing movement speed and a brief stun. Its like having 2 claps!!! I went treads vanguard shivas and it was very successful.
Interessting item there krocka, sounds like a solid late-game item.
I go for "CC"-panda when i play him.
2 bashers
1 hyperstone(ac later if possible)
treads str
mom
sheepstaff
this is more of 1v1-disabler build but it works like a charm. Its possible to ditch one of the basher to add a heart or make the treads to a bot.
you CANNOT win over him 1v1.
fun hero to play !
This hero is so hard to use!!!!
He can be a killer doe if used properly.
my build:
S&Y
Vladimir's
Blink Dagger
HoT
Radiance
Treads
His ownage with Skadi.
IS MANTA STYLA GOOD FOR HIM
Yesterday i had jsut played my first brewmaster after randoming it. Immediately i bought 2 Bracers and began my expedition.
I got First blood in 7min. and then just carried out my business throughout the game. Built for PT's then Blink dagger. Then MoM Then i just farmed and kiled till my HoT. A person from them left so Juggs on their team was pro as can be and ended up godlike. We lost but my build against INT heroes or STR based heroes with spell/ skills are as follows.
*2 Bracers
*Treads
* Blink Dagger
*MoM or HoD for Satanic ( Very useful)
* HoT
* BKB or another HoT
Yesterday i had jsut played my first brewmaster after randoming it. Immediately i bought 2 Bracers and began my expedition.
I got First blood in 7min. and then just carried out my business throughout the game. Built for PT's then Blink dagger. Then MoM Then i just farmed and kiled till my HoT. A person from them left so Juggs on their team was pro as can be and ended up godlike. We lost but my build against INT heroes or STR based heroes with spell/ skills are as follows.
*2 Bracers
*Treads
* Blink Dagger
*MoM or HoD for Satanic ( Very useful)
* HoT
* BKB or another HoT
hey!! where the water spirit??????
I don't know how to kill this hero...
If it weren't for Thunder Clap he'd be the same hero he always was
PANDAREN ROCKS!
This guy's pretty hard to use...
S&Y
Vladimir's
Butterfly
Radiance
Assualt Curiass
Str Treads
I call it the most unstoppable hero when it is faced to a short range hero in a one on one battle!
if the ulti will have a longer time, pandaren will become the strongest hero!!
I built much better items for panda! use arcane ring then boots of travel followed by battle fury then use sange and yasha, then an assault cuirras, lastly equip him w/ a keleen's dagger of escape!
this is the best item for him!
DriN! u can kill this hero by using barathrum!! but there is only a 40% chance!! this hero is nearly unstoppable!
when using pandaren, be sure that u will not be lost or i will call u a noob!!!
S&Y
Vlad's
Butterfly
Buriza
Curiass
Agi Treads
Kinda of a enormously nerfed hero now that kelen's has been nerfed... Just chased a hero and when i was about to blink i got hit by creep. And of he runs to safety...
pandaren brewnaster the unkillable
Its Pandaren "BREWMASTER" not Battlemaster..

Make a gauide please
Simple owning build:
vanguard
b.furry
tarrasque
u can add another b.furry n cuirass too
:) owning
His ulti pawn roshan like a jerk.
This guy own so much like hell 2+3 skill = BUTTERFLY wuahhahaha
Seems to be a good character... Though i find it hard to use his ulti... gets annoying... Ulti is alright for some escapes
evasion doesn't stack (it says so in the ability) so butterfly's evasion will override his because it is higher
his ulti is hard to use unless you can micro well
20 sec cyclone? I think not
I have a question:
when the 3 pandas get together again to form the Panda, where does the hero appear? when I play him, he always appears in the position where the Earth Panda was, unless of course the Earth Panda gets killed.
