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Strategies:Abaddon...need I say more?? posted by faceless_void on 2006-10-24Lord of War (Caballo de Guerra) posted by alcolitoz on 2006-08-18 unstoppable Abbadon posted by godspeed on 2006-08-28 |
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Invenerable for 5 seconds,well very well .Great Hero.His Sheild is also very good.This is the hero you can go divine rapier with.
This hero is almost immpossible to kill. only can be killed with spell over 500 dmg.
Not really... you can easily beat him with disablers. A Dark Terror can eat Abaddon alive.
Never get in that situation. Thx 4 the tips.
I think cast guinsoo on Abaddon can stop its ulti.
he can be invunerable if under 400 hp, he casts a shield on himself which absorbs damage and converts it into health and he slows everyone and speeds up his allies attack speed... he is UNTOUCHABLE!
do u guys think deathcoil is worth it? i think it should be the last stat to improve
i played him today in AREM.... i completely dominated, but i had a n00b ass team and my team and tower got owned... i had PT, Crystal, SnY and Basher. in the end, my kill count was like 8 15 (i died so much from soloin 3 people tryin to destroy my tower)
just keep him stunned for 5 seconds and hes dead.
He's really not all that unkillable. If you're under 400 hp, by the time you actually start to run away, by the time you get through whatever obstacles (creeps, allies, etc) you're ult is done and you just die.
CULL
This hero is freakin' good! Isn't it?Someone must be crazy to use Mortred against Abaddon, unless you know how to handle her well! He's also good for Rikimaru! TANK you!
how can this die?
You can kill him by just mass disabling him and keeping him around while he has his borrowed time on, he won't take damage but he can still be a target of spells. It's hard to go 1 on 1 with him early game so you should try to gank this guy quick before he gets too powerful late game.
Do you guys know about abbadones 2 extra skills? If you want to know email me at this address angelous_errare@yahoo.com
One skill is kinda' like harakiri (suicide) so enemies wont get the gold and the other one is revrese damage, instead of taking damage you get healed by there attcks if you want to know more email me
frostmourne will boost ur movement speed so u will be able to flee, shield will make u resistant to damage so u can flee and borrowed time will allow u to flee. the deathcoil is just a last hit shot so u get the kill/gold
thats so easy valiant the first one, you can deny yourself by using the first skill and the second one, once borrowed time is activated, cast aphotic shield on yourself any damage taken will heal you
This guy kicks ass.
i fought him in a fight 2on1 it was yurnero(me) and necrolyte(friend) vs. Abaddon(hated enemy) in about 40to50 minutes in the game we were beat.
Here are some possible reasons why we lost:
my friend is a noob
my hated enemy was a bigger pro than me
my friend and i leveled up too slowly
my enemy had better items
or it was stupid for me to fight Abaddon
the reason i didnt put that i need practice was that i won a pro tournament.
This guy kicks ass.
i fought him in a fight 2on1 it was yurnero(me) and necrolyte(friend) vs. Abaddon(hated enemy) in about 40to50 minutes in the game we were beat.
Here are some possible reasons why we lost:
my friend is a noob
my hated enemy was a bigger pro than me
my friend and i leveled up too slowly
my enemy had better items
or it was stupid for me to fight Abaddon
the reason i didnt put that i need practice was that i won a pro tournament.
This guy kicks ass.
i fought him in a fight 2on1 it was yurnero(me) and necrolyte(friend) vs. Abaddon(hated enemy) in about 40to50 minutes in the game we were beat.
Here are some possible reasons why we lost:
my friend is a noob
my hated enemy was a bigger pro than me
my friend and i leveled up too slowly
my enemy had better items
or it was stupid for me to fight Abaddon
the reason i didnt put that i need practice was that i won a pro tournament.
this guy is good with lifesteal items, his ulti is activated, aphotic shield, death coil, plus with lifesteal u could probably regen enough health to tank 2 or 3 heroes, solo. frostmourne will help u loads
super tank!
i was using this hero against lucifer yesterday. and to my surprise even while i was DOOMed by lucy the borrowed time saved me. is this a bug or is borrowed time really that strong?
oh and another thing while i had an aphotic shield on me, my free cycloned me via eul's scepter. after the cyclone the animation of the aphotic shield was gone. i thought it was cancelled by the eul's, but to my surprise after a few attacks on me the aphotic still exploded. maybe this is a bug they should fix on the next release.
my friends all call him lord of the imba when i play with him because i never die. this hero is pretty good for noobs to start playing with. gets boring if you use him too much though. just get BoTs, hyperstone, basher, buriza, and any lifesteal items.
hmmm.... I think that LoA is a very good player for beginners. He has got good skills and can become an incredible tank w/ these items- 1) PT 2) HoT 3) Radiance 4) Aegis 5) soul booster 6) Buriza (not necessarily in that order)
switch soul booster for SNY btw
Vladimir's offering PT vanguard S&Y. and then GG (late game dagger of escape & heart of tarask)
Vladimir's offering PT vanguard S&Y. and then GG (late game dagger of escape & heart of tarask)
a few weeks i fought this guy boasting that he can defeat me by using rhasta against me and said that who ever loses
will lose the respect of people in our school and the computer shop we use to play.well guess wat i used aBADDON and defeated that stupid person and since then he tried everything to defeat me and embarassed me.
lupeman..
Man u must be really nub or u dont know how to play him. u cant die 15 times in a game with that hero.
Just see the items i posted yesterday. i am playing him in a 2vs2 team 3vs3 and 5vs5.
i can kill any without stealth in 2cond wave of creaps.
Just use shield and pass the 1st wave and sit next to the oposit hero u wait till creaps smash your shield. (1-2 hit the opponent). u pull back and u gain the second lvl and u put Frostmourne.
Put shield on u pass the creaps hit the opponent hero creeps will hit u and he will try to escape to the tower. he will be slowed by Frostmourne and your shield will exploed by the tower and then he is 1 hit. U will be full health with 900g on u. (dont put more than 1-2 lvl Frostmourne at the beginning)
Abbon pumapatay ng 3
triple kill owning
almost the perfect hero!!!!...
even nuds can us him..... tank tank!!!!!!!!
@Rikimarou (btw, nice spellin n00b)
u try soloing a whole team when ur team is full of n00bz who constantly died (this happened like 2 months agoish) and they hav destroyed ur barracks. play 1vs5 next time, mid only, cos thats what it felt like on that day. this is one of the most easiest heroes to use. i can play 1vs5 against insane bots with the hardest hero for me to use in those conditions (besides vengeful spirit) and still win without the help of the new recipes.
choose silencer, lion, furion, dwarven sniper and axe for the insane bots usin this hero in 1vs5. hell of a challenge. with the new recipes, u should be able to last a lot longer. good practice
@ Rikimarou
you NEED to max out froustmourne after aphotic shield. why leave it at level 1 if you dont have better skills to put? and increased attack speed and slow are essentials to chasing and that's what abbadon needs since he has a low MS of 295. and look at his agi gain, 1.5 right? and his attackspeed is 1.48 that's why he needs the most attackspeed he can get from froustmourne. and try not to double post, mods might warn you.
@lupeman
dont make fun of Rikimarou's name, ask yourself that, what if i tell you this:
"lupeman, what a n00bish name". and by the way you won't improve yourself that much fighting AI, even if it is 1 on 5AI. try fighting a pro necrolyte or axe now that's a challenge.
deathcoil can be used to kill yourself so you wouldn't lose your kill spree and the enemy won't get gold. the only problem with this hero is he doesn't have any stun, disable, nuke, etc. and dont try buying dagon on him just for a disable. pros will call you noob if you do that.
@0v3rk1ll
necro and axe are the best counters to this hero, and a hero that abbadon could never kill, enchantress, cuz abbadon relies heavily on normal attacks, and untouchable counters normal attacks really effieciently. though borrowed time makes abbadon take no damage, he is still vurnerable to stuns and disables.
or what paydenator said
Posted by Paydenator
2007-02-14
"You can kill him by just mass disabling him and keeping him around while he has his borrowed time on, he won't take damage but he can still be a target of spells. It's hard to go 1 on 1 with him early game so you should try to gank this guy quick before he gets too powerful late game."
abbadon is a classic player,his shield bears both offence and defence,well i use my shild on my creep at the beginning so that no hero can wander close.use ur shield on creep with max damage..when an enemy is defending he might find it hard to hit that protected creep.
upgrade death coil aony once. it comes handy to kill any escaping enemy.and also to help allys.
abbadon should be having a snge and yasha...i gave him 2 of them.he needs radiance too...abbadon and dragon knight have a prob. of escaping enemies..u catch them up swiftly.
in the movie is he abbadon who owns the scourges throne..its doubtful but after decieving senties he crowned himself as the lord of avernus
this hero so suck.....
`UnholY`
In low lvls in a game u wont try to gank with this hero.
tbh l8 game onws with Abb and u dont need to have frostmourne more than 1-2 lvl at the beginning.
lupeman.. man u have no clue of the game. go practice with AI.
kkthxb.
My name is Rikimarou. omg omg what a n00b. u told me to l2spell. what about your post.. like 2 months agoish , hav destroyed ur barracks,
Should i cast AS early on?
Ha...
Abaddon + Blade mail + Maelstrom + Another Blade mail =
Aphotic + Blade mail = U dont recive dammage but give bounceback dammage 20%/40% and an extra 275 dmg if Aphotic pops= Defendsive
Frostmoune + Maelstrom to creep = Creeping,Harras
Hahahaha
Guys I'm just a noob can someone tell me how to beat this guy in a 1 on 1 match.
Very cool hero, S&Y and Frostmourne are complementary, making him together with 3-5 secs invulnerability a good hunter, but also kind of almost unbeatable with shield in early game. Sadly, can be taken out by disablers too easy.
Just use nerubian assassin and spam Mana Burn on him. When his mana is gone there's NO aphotic shield.
one of the best hero in the game
Addabon is a good hero he can disburst venomancer and lucifers, once u activate his ulti it can cancel doomed ulti and venomancer. I use abaddon when I'm fighting with a good opponent my build is 2 busher 2 vanguard SnG if you have enough money buy hyper stone or heart
get linkens or BMB, then u hav absolute protection. time ur avatar right though, u cant activate it if ur stunned
hey valentine wana beat dis guy use sandking try harassing him using ur his stunning skill, when he uses his shield wait until it was gone. the key is taht u must have more manna just try to harrassed him ok. sand king has more killing skill than abaddon and also a good farmer. Or try buliding radiance it will damage him even though ur not attacking him.
sandking is MISMATCH against abaddon...
In my experience, he is the full-support in close combat. Try Abbadon learn only AS, DC and BT. Then equip him Mecha, Arcane and disable items if you like. He can jump straight to the fire supporting his mates w/out being damaged. Cast BT on the AoE spells. Cast AS on ally whose enemies are focus-fired to. Then DC the low HPs. Thats the other side of Abbadon making him as a FS-Melee.
BTW here in Philippines in 4on4 -np mode makes Abaddon* serves well on Scourge w/ Akasha, Veno, and Leoric. and on 5on5 -ap mode it only add Zeus for final kills.
BTW here in Philippines in 4on4 -np mode makes Abaddon* serves well on Scourge w/ Akasha, Veno, and Leoric. and on 5on5 -ap mode it only add Zeus for final kills.
BTW here in Philippines in 4on4 -np mode makes Abaddon* serves well on Scourge w/ Akasha, Veno, and Leoric. and on 5on5 -ap mode it only add Zeus for final kills.
@ sayonara_samurai31. shield lasts 20 seconds, cooldown is 25. he can recast it quite quickly.
and @ archmedi. Frostmourne is great, thats the first skill i always get. Death Coil is a last hit if hes fast, but frostmourne shouldve taken care of speed.
no hero is immortal-but this can kill,kill,kill and have full hp.
theres a dota vid on YouTube where a n00b naix fights abbadon till like 10 hp and abbadon fights back with a shield on and wins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gs0m9oeERE
Abaddon is almost untouchable.
Well, Abaddon. Yes he is VERY powerful but people don't understand. You may not be able to stand up to a pro Abaddon but when you DO take him down to 400 health, he will start running. :). Can't you chase for 5 seconds? Your stun or slow would be ready by then. GOSH!
i never run away when my ulti is activated, cos i will hav healed 275 from shield, slowed the enemies attack speed with frostmourne and i can deathcoil with shield activated to heal myself more. if i wanted to, i would carry an empty bottle
haha i remeber using this guy.. pretty good if you can spam AS on creeps to protect them AND take down enemy waves... anyways i just remembered have about 100 health left and casting AS when i get jumped by 2 low health guys.. haha free double kill
shield bursts and i get them both
I was once surrounded by mob of Vengefulspirit,Rhasta,Jakiro
I was stunned,Hexed,frozen,Micropyred,
blocked by Serpent wards and shackled...
All at once!!!!
Luckily I had started borrowed time and shield
I charged at Vengeful spirit and pawned her,lowed the Hps of Rhasta and Jakiro alike and survived narrowly
But in no time I was back with full Hp:
P.Treads,Mechansm,Vladmir,2 xBracers,Blademail.
Max out 2nd,3rd skill and Ulti.
Go for stats up directly and deathcoil later on
(4 level advantage)
too bad that u cant buy orb effect items.
if he casts borrowed time wrong time then just chase him 5 seconds.
axe is 1 of his worst enemies
This hero can be killed by Lion or Lina without even having his ulti activated
1 word, beyond godlike
@lupeman in his way first first posts, death coil is worth it, very good for support and last shots, it only takes a little from ur life and u can suicide if in tight situatuion
This guy is the most imbalanced hero in my opinion. Nearly unkillable unless massed ganked. His shield is like a spammable counter helix. 0.o Frostmourne just makes it worth. Maxing out shield and frostmourne first means first blood and first to a killing spree. Build:
1. PT/BOT
2. S&Y
3. Basher
4. Basher
5. Buriza/Linken
6. HOT
S&Y is the only item needs actually.
two words: blink dagger. (after you buff up)
Abaddon will absolutely own the game with these items (no kiddin'):
*Treads
*Vanguard
*Skadi/S & Y
*DoE
*2 Basher (just like proelite's)
the best item for this herro is:
1.power treads
2.blade malex2
3.vanguard
4.assault cuirrass
6.eye of skadi
thats the best
no one can hurt him anymore
u wont actually deal any real damage then
wtf do u hav skadi? u hav frostmourne. r u aiming for 100 ms or something?
To all the users of Lich!!!
I had d greatest vision ever!!!
Supah Supporta Pwnage Team!!!
Imagine:
Lich's Frost Armor Lvl 4 +
Treant Protector's Living Armor Lvl 4 +
Lord of Avernus w/ Radiance & Cuirass & HoT & Butterfly & S&Y & P Threads +
Apothic Shield Lvl 4 +
(if borrowed tym activated even better)
Repel Magic Lvl 4
= INVICI MODE 4 ABADDON!!!!
Can this guy use Mask o Madness?
plus mjollnirs Static Shield.
Hello,
i dont know wy you donty like death coil?like that bit life give a''fuck'' IT ALSO triigers your sheild oops 500 damage :S
....ADD its COMBO!!!!!
You can deny urself using Rot like Death coil
while escaping sure death.
Enuf said...
My item build for Abaddon:
1.SangeYasha
2.PowerTreads
3.Hyperstone
4.Heart of Tarrasque
5.Radiance
6.Monkeyking Bar
Just make sure u do not learn Death coil
Just amx out other powers and get to stats up...Comment me if build works well
Raijjin Storm Spirit cud easily take Abaddon
First thing he doesn't allow Abaddon to come lose+ if he get disabling skill he cud wipe u out easily.Even after borrowed time
Lightning Grapple--->Electric rave----->Overload can finsh Abaddon.
Abadon rules!
ABADING!!!! heheh
power tread
s&y
cuirass
heart or satanic
this guy is pretty tough and strong.
Cranium Basher
Cranium Basher
Sange and Yasha
Heart of Tarrasque
Assualt Curiass
Powertreads(str)
what's the better item for this hero? skadi or satanic?
Hail To The Lord OF Avernus!
The Untouchable King!
sounds good
hell, satanic and skadi both sucks, use madness
whoat? that sucks... i'd go for sange & yasha or two cranium instead of MoM.
he's just one hero who i would always enjoy playing with. But in a match yesterday,i was made to run for my life quite a number of times and bare'ly escaped always. the opp had netherdrake, sniper and drow... whenever they used to gank me,netherdrake poisoned me, Dorw slowed me like hell and after that sniper... no chance... but managed to escape most of the times and still owned 11 kills and 4 deaths...
had built PT, HOT, S$G for him
apothic remove buffs
amazing
Few things I want to say:
1-He is not invulnerble. With all the time I've played him, I died once. He's just an awesome hero.
2-Does anybody even use Death Coil? I always invest all my points in the other things and Death Coil last. It's always Apothitic Shield and Frostmourne, then the stats, with Borrowed time when it shows up, then stats, THEN Death Coil.
3-This hero is great. Like I've said, I've only died once. He's a great warrior hero; best one I've found. My brother is more of a cunning range hero, and he didn't hit it off. It's not that noobs can play him; it's just the sort of hero you're best with. Like how i'm best with warrior heroes.
umm i don't know why everyone is so infatuated with this hero he is good...very good... but if you hex him when he ults it cancels his ult most decent int heroes which get sheepstick can give him a hard time just wait till he ults and hex him
That's what i mean by he isn't invincible
i think the death coil is the combo for the shield cuz if you shield ur self and when the sheild is badly damaged activate death coil on a enemy hero and it looks like (lvl 4 all skill)250+275=525 dmg with no dmg for your self
POWER TREADS
SANGE AND YASHA
EYE OF SKADI
TARRASQUE
ASSAULT CUIRASS
DIVINE RAPIER
lol lupeman no one likes you cause you always say "n00b" it's really gay.
Abaddon needs Blink Dagger to chase dying enemies and escape ganks or ambushes.
suggestion onLy: why dont make abaddon's borrowed time be "cLickabLe" to his aLLied heroes??
abading is sure a tough hero..
but i much prefer omniknight..
He is THE HERO
so IMBA
with PT, 2 Bracers, Vanguard, S&Y u can be godlike
and if u have money try buriza too
How come that no1 uses Travels on Abaddon?
With travels he will (almost) become invincible.
With 5 sec. invunerablity, you can teleport away from danger.
You can play him as Tank, Assist hero, Pusher, and a great nuker.
If you don't use Death Coil, then you're retarded.
Ow noes! My teammate is getting chased by 3 others, and have 100 hp left? What to do?
Simple.
Use Death Coil on him, shield him, and he'll survive for sure.
Learn how to use this hero properly and you will be beyond in a minute.
OK, i have a strat that freaking OWNS but i can't make a guide because ABADDON IS MISSING FROM THE HEROES LIST when i try to make a strat on this site (all the other heroes are there to choose in the menu but him!!) ANYONE HELP PLZ?
actually borrowed time cooldown is 45 seconds... amazing spell if they don't have disablers
damn this hero is good coz....shield remove negative BUFF....VENOM n VIPER r completely useless against him.....
euls or ginsoo :D
BoT
Sange and Yasha
Vanguard
2*Cranium
Hyperstone
I go with these items 18-0
Hyperstone----Assault
Sell vanguard buy HoT
My favorite hero!!! He is originally Arthas in Warcraft, hehehe... If you have many mellee enemies, better have 2 blademails + apotic shield!!! This will give your foes a headache!!! Don't forget to put satanic, power treads, battle fury. radiance, buriza, or mkb will be the options in the remaining slot^^
I don't ever play as Abaddon so I have a question: Do things like shield/vanguard and defense reduce the damage that the shield takes? Thus making the shield last longer? Seemed logical but I wanted to make sure.
---_____---- the most imbalanced hero in the whole of dota period
If u think this hero sucks... u are in my favor of calling u :Garbage dotA player:, abbadon pwns face and cannot die unless the enemies have disablers or stunners^^
abading ehehehe godlike c bilog dito ehehehe
the axe can kill him with this ultt =) but being honest this is a really cool hero
the axe can kill him with this ultt =) but being honest this is a really cool hero
the axe can kill him with this ultt =) but being honest this is a really cool hero
the axe can kill him with this ultt =) but being honest this is a really cool hero
should buy: HoT,SNY,satanic,trends,vanguard,mkb comment me if it works well
Aphotic+death coil. ouch!
SnY and Satanic are both orb effects and so one of those items aint gonna work right CYB
Axe can own this guy
Even in BT mode if axe uses Culling and Abaddon is below 400 hitpoints, GooDBYe!!!
This is one of my fave. hero follow my build in order and even CENTAUR using DEVINE REPIER, CUIRASS, HoT, PTreads, BUTTLEFURY and BURIZA is no match for you
BLADEMAIL
BOOTS
BASHER
SnY
BUTTLEFURY
MkB
If you have all this item already CHANGE the BOOTS into HYPERSTONE or CRUIRASS. No need for you to get PTreads coz your movement speed will still be 345..
sny,basher,vlads = GG ^^
hey guys, new to this site. just thought id pop on see whats goin on, see if there are some good strats and what not. I played an abaddon today for a tournament at a local lan center, it was during a -rdem. the owner of the center thinks im a shitty player so he expects me to do bad. i solo in a lane with him, hes morph....dead in 3 min. got 2 ranks of shield and 2 ranks of frostmourne..tower attacks me as im chasing dead. SNY and BOT best combo
bashers sucks on him
How to kill abbadon using these heroes Viper,Razor,Rhasta,banehallow,DK,Magina?
Me and my friends call him ABBADING bec he's skill are for always running away
mainly running away , sure
but say a walking juggernaut of
invulnerabilty
Heres my build works very well
Get Power treads , 1 Bracer , 1 Null talisman , Helm of Dominator , Vladmir's offering , heart of terrasque and then go for buriza or another heart if u need tanking ..
Wid HoD and vladmir's by lvl 13 - 15 u will have +10 Armor and 30% Lifesteal and you will have something like +50-70 damage ..
sny, pt, hyperstone.... 30mins gg
Ei galera pois é sei nem usar o site do DOTAALLSTAR uhsasahsua
Assault,Blademail,Bunterflay,Radiance,inc,diz aew o outro
Haha this guy is so not invincible, i got him with Azwraith once when he was dominating my team, he got so mad he left
never underestimate a clone lucky Az with manta style...
this dudes good as in wtf mode
