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Strategies:EniXBlaze's guide to Raijin - "The Rampage Of Thunder God" posted by EniXBlaze on 2007-08-28kopite's guide to Raijin Thunderkeg posted by kopite on 2007-06-24 |
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This dude is great bcuz of his skills, insane atk speed which will help his 3rd skill, with his second skill he can escape Zeus's ulti when he is running away with low hp and his ulti goes great with spells like poison nova,epicentre and sanity's eclipse.
this guy is crazy that explosion thingy makes farming a lot easier
will the new heroes be for the league maps?
with this guy i start with treads, a single null, mom, then butter, then assault or gynsoo depending on who your facing... then proably a heart... thats gg
I go treads ,null , RoH , Mjollnir on this guy , mby lothars too if you have the cash... they reduced the income in this version.
Well... I havent tried this guy but it looks that naix ASPD will be nothing i mean 80% IAS for just 15 mana a second???
Thats ownage with any kind of damaging items
Move Speed: 600
For an int hero he sure doesnt have much to cast. One spell costs 75 mana the other 15/sec.
Overload at level 4 deals 75 dmg every 5 attacks. Thats what, 13 damage per attack average? Pretty weak compared to a 600 magic damage shield (HOLY SHIT).
Lightning Grapple looks like it can have some unique teamplay features... Its sort of like a 'AOE' blink, so you can move allies/enemies around. Not sure if it stops channeling though.
This guy IMO is the pure form of synergy for pudge. Use barrier on pudge, stand next to him, and grapple the enemy. You and pudge go flying at the enemy and he has 600 dmg worth of rot he can absorb.
Blink dagger:
Blink into the enemies, grapple out.
OR
Grapple enemy into forest, blink out, own.
i love his attack animation, so fun to play with
This whole hero is a joke (literally). And especially his lightning grapple, it's funny. I saw someone escape with this and lol, all the creeps travelled with him XD.
new heroes still get pawned by oldies
wow new hero can you's make strategy for this hero
move speed 600? Lol
BoT
Linkens
Assault cuirass
Guinsoo
Buriza
That should be killer on this guy.
Maybe play him as a support,
Arcane
Mekanism
Guinsoo
Diffusal Blade
Treads
I tried bracer, treads, mom, assault, and then our team won. I was thinking mkb next though. Anyone try bashers on this guy? Although with his third spell and only 10% bash its prolly not worth it.
I was thinking u could go BoT,2 Nulls,Linkens,Skadi/Mojollnir (u cud get them both if time permits). With this build at level 25 you could leave his first skill active at all times and have about 3K hp.
If you put a few pts in stats I find his base mana sufficient to power his first skill since he is an int hero.
for me this guy's totally awesome, owned with him early/mid game with mjolnir , treads 2 nulls and perse. Wanted to try basher and hyperstone on him, with his 3rd skill he can slow enemies quite oftenly while stunning him
a great offensive or supportive hero depending on item build
gotta be my fave
Umm a question...does the grapple teleport
enemies too? Because if so it would only be useful for a gank
His other skills need no comment, they're all great. Grapple is so...GREAT, i like the pudge idea but think of all the super ganks and escapes that can be made using it super team blink ftw
I wonder though... can you pull roshan???
I really want somebody make a strategie for him ^^
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eye of skadi works great with this hero. you can basically have the 80% atk speed on at all times, and chase like a beast. makes him a much better tank to run in and grapple as well
I DOMINATED WITH THIS HERO! I got first for the first time in my life and the game was so good too. lasted an hour and everyone got to level 25
My build is BoT, Butterfly, MKB, HoT, BKB. was my game. I played 8 games = 8 hours of DotA yesterday. 4 with Raijin Thunderkeg, Pandaren Brewmasters ulti
i even managed to solo 3 heroes at once :D.overload is GREAT cos it stuns and slows for a small duration and purges. once u get a Butterfly its GG for the enemy
storm spirit is the name of one of the pandas of pandaren's primal spirit
my build for him, BoT, HoT, hyperstone, guinsoo, 1 hood of defiance, and 1 linken sphere.
i agree with wegweg, against heroes who don't use spells, and just rely on DPS, he isn't the best
got ai map for these 6.44
STRONG hero!!!!
this guy is like imba
this is cool' using your ulit you can trap your enemies in your well or maybe for tower hug
grapple pulls nearby enemy heroes close too, it's seriously a very good skill for ganking and escaping since it works even if u click on the ground
but i think this hero shoule be AGI instead of INT, he'll be imba if he's agi
Mjolnir works great on him
The grapple is a good tool if you can use it. If you're too close to your enemy, you can't use it to escape. But probably the coolest way is to grab a whole bunch of creeps with you, and trap your enemies inside the horde of creeps.
get randiance and mealstrom.....triple kills!
i dont think barrier is that good
its just omninknights repel except it is worst...............
grapple pulls nearby enemy heroes close too, it's seriously a very good skill for ganking and escaping since it works even if u click on the ground
but i think this hero shoule be AGI instead of INT, he'll be imba if he's agi
Mjolnir works great on him
barrier has it's advantage, u can use it practically all the time as cooldown is shorter than the barrier duration as it costs relatively less mana, and another advantage is u can waste enemy heroe's spell like lina stuck u with her laguna, u wont die while she wasted her ulti, for omni's they cant cast on u but they can cast on other ppl and they die
Storm + Pudge + Venge = GG
He's really scary if ever he manages to farm his items. If he was an AGI hero, it'll be much scarier... :(
oh.. i see now... thx ultrafeeder... i wasnt getin stats instead of barrier...
my freind said he was imba killer cuz of ulti...
this guy is my favorite out of all the new heroes my buiild goes for attack like buriz treads 2 nulls and maybe a mkb and he has great stats
his ult is so uselss...its like dt's timewalk, but timewalk is even beter: it slows the units in the path dt goes over. this thing dowa nothing but transport panda and nearby heros to an enemy. it should have a slow, or maybe a stun, or maybe even some dmge to any heros that ceom within a certain aoe of where panda lands. maybe even increase the effect in accordance w/ how many creeps/heros are trasnported...It has potential, but right now id say its only good for getting away.
grapple is not totally useless..it's for ganking!! and of course team escape..used it many times and it's not that bad
Grapple pulls all units near Raijin and any in the blink path with him. Not a bad escape skill, would work great with a blink dagger.
You can blink you're entire team into a gank which is awesome by itself.
His ulty is one of the best TK(same team killing) skills ever. TK is not good unless you guys are dominating and the people on your team like you and don't mind getting killed. If you are evil and do it to piss off people, then screw you. Back to the point. All you have to do is use this neat skill near your target ally and target an enemy hero healing at the fountain and tele your self out using a dagger. Run away and watch your allie get teared up by the fountain. it can also be done reverse to
fountain kill and enemy. Blink next to then then zap! PWNED.
Pretty cool really cool! His str, agi and int. are just normal and very powerful to me. He's perfect!
This is what happened when i used him..
I was ganked on bottom lane with low HP, I ultied 3 enemies into the river, I died.. But they left the game lol
Get dark lord to set up a portal from base fountain and use your ulti to pull your enemies into that portal.
Get dark lord to set up a portal from base fountain and use your ulti to pull your enemies into that portal.
Get dark lord to set up a portal from base fountain and use your ulti to pull your enemies into that portal.
Get dark lord to set up a portal from base fountain and use your ulti to pull your enemies into that portal.
Get dark lord to set up a portal from base fountain and use your ulti to pull your enemies into that portal.
This guy is imba along with every other new hero. Electric Rave, with mana regen which is not hard to get, can be permanent. Barrier, for 75 mana you can block Zeus ulti and most other nukes. Third skill is a free purge. Grapple allows for mass ganks.
the ulti is so great, u cant escape panda and remarkably fast cooldown.
I love Raijin! His SS is very unique, it's like the opposite of Pudge's hook.
Raijin + Sand king = Ownage.
And one more thing, this is an int hero with almost equal str too.
I'd probably get Buriza with this one.
Why Mjolnir?
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would skadi work with his overload?
how would you maximise his farming potential?
Skadi works great on him, the stats and the slow makes him a very good support hero and killer. And the extra hp you get will make it much easier to get close to your enemies and grapple them to your allies and still have enough hp to support your team and get some kills.
Blink dagger is also a great item on him with his level 3 grapple. Blink in, grapple to your allies, kill.
He is kinda weak in the beginning so it's important to farm his items quick, hand of midas will do, and boots of travel is a must.
Ulti is great with Earthshaker Ulti.
I like this hero.
Well this heroe in late game is dangerous is really cool his ulti for chasing is so nice this hero but is not attractive to me for use him
A good hero for stealing hero
we buy dagger,and we stand in the right or left of map,there is a river in both sides,we are waiting for hero and we can pull him into the river and as soon as we use the kellen's dagger to blink-out from the river
A great srategy for ganks is getting with your allies and grappling becasue this basically surroiunds 1 hero and purge slows them so no escape basically very ownage, also crit owns on this guy because of teh fast attack speed + mjoliner and guinsoo for a nice build where you hex then usuall kill em fast enough other wise grapple very ownage hero + 600 magic def
i mastered him =] already hit a godlike or 2 with him
y not put skadi since he has fast attack speed???
This hero is HEAVILY item dependent. Here is my reasoning. 80% attack speed increase is not that great considering that he is an int hero with relatively low base dmg. Barrior is decent but only effective early game. I think Overload is a terrible spell because it does only 75 dmg every 5 attacks. The slow is also too short. The only useful spell I found is the ult. Overall, worst new hero out of the six in 6.44.
this guy will doninate zeus.... i cant wait, i hate getting "backstabbed" by zeus' ult
electric rave makes naix appear to hav a slow ASPD. i never saw any real use of barrier, it uses precious mana (even though he can afford to spare lots)
i regret sayin this, but also too overpowered, needs to be nerfed
Yeah, would EOS stack with overload and electric rave? 'cause that would be so cool, almost better than perma-bash
his lvl2 is kind of overpowered
@jonel
Dont post cursed words ill see to it you get banned
Your a filipino why say that filipinos are dumb?? and if you think this hero sucks then go create your own hero use World editor?? make your own dota.
back to the hero
Never tried this hero i only tried Pit lord and i owned
Say what is overload?? i mean what does it do?
If it makes your attack look like Ursas
im thinking 2 builds an Int build Guinsoo Bot Refresher or a battle build
HOT treads Mkb/ Bfly/Currias/ Buriza /Satanic something like that
so whats overload huh?
@blooo, overload is like this bro: let's assume overload is at level 4. If you attack 4 consecutive times, not counting the missed attacks, your 5th attack would explode dealing 74 damage to enemies near the one you are attacking plus a purge-like effect on the area.
and yeah, int build totally works. When I played this hero I got items that gave me a total of 300% mana regen, I activate electric rave and no mana was used.
BoT,Mjolnir,S&Y,Burizaand maybeHoT=IMBA,ulti=very original(and the dark lord`s portal idea is very cool)lots of posibilities with and on this hero
After playing this hero a few times I've decided that skadi is not the best item to get on him.
He already has decent hp and his barrier add's 600 extra hp(spell resistance).
His attack speed is already good so what he needs i damage, Guinsoo works great on him. When I first heard that overload purges hex and it gets cancelled out I thought that guinsoo sucked on him. But I tried it in a dota league game and it works great, and the dmg is very good on him. In team battle you can just hex their tank and focus other heroes, that way hex won't be cancelled out by his overload. You can also hex a fleeing hero, run close to it, and grapple him to your allies. The mana regen is also very nice for him.
The next item I go for him is stygian, it's a very cheap item and the dmg from it is so good on storm spirit, and the -6 armor is welcome too
To farm this quickly, my first item is obviously hand of midas since he doesn't really need stats early game.
compliments the heavy nukers lol
Wow one of the best early game harrassers with his incredible long range and once they use a tangoe just build up your purge and purge them! Then they won't regen and they have to eat another tangoe!
A guinsoo is a must for this hero too.
overload is great, dont underestimate it. once u get electric rav and overload maxed out (any agil items help lots) he can kill anyone who approaches him from full health at melee range (why melee range? cos then u can still hurt him significantly if he runs away). overload has a purge which slows and hurts images a lot.
i havent tried it yet, but i m goin to try to kill azwraith with this hero.
yeah i would have to disagree with a lot of the ppl on this threat... :(
i dont think this hero needs any intel items except for maybe a null at the beginning rather than a bracer. I havent lost yet with this guy and have gotten nothing less than godlikes so lets hear what you guys think:
null, boots of travel, cuirass, mkb, skadi. i know that sounds like a lot, but you get it in bits and pieces. you get skadi last, and u get the null first with boots, then the hyperstone, then the rest to make cuirass, and with rave and overload at level 4 u can farm and push like no other. and with his ulti, this guy needs no disable from a guinsoo, so just ulti to the enemy and shoot him a lot!! ;)
mkb for more dmg and attack apeed and stun, and finally a skadi to make the enemies run away from you in fear. this guy, if he were an agili hero, would be INSANE!! ;) (well i guess i was wrong, some of you have said that)
but i think (and am open to suggestion) that this guy needs no intel, hes pure dmg and his base intel is sufficient for any spells.
P.S. i have used barrier like 4 times in the 10 games i have played with this guy, and most of the time its been on my dying allies
this hero ... is my hero. what u get is maybe SnY, Linken's, Skadi, BoT, Butterfly, MKB
1.SnY for move speed, attack speed and maim.
2.Linken's for regen and spell negation
3.Skadi for slow cuz ranged skadi isnt an orb (SnY is the orb for now)
4.BoT for chasing
5.Butterfly for crazy attack speed
6.MKB for avatar.
gg....
OH MY... maybe... manta style instead of SnY.
3 images has 3x the chance to mini-purge and do 75 dmg right? and it'll also burn mana, might we laugh at the enemy agility heroes. they're so dead.
Thiz guy is a great hero thou u need dagon 4 d kill. 4 me the best items 4 thiz guy is p.threads,dagon,vanguard,guinsoo,assaultcuirass. thats all u nid.
i still don't understan about this hero ult, can anyone help me????
Use the ulti when the hero is running... You can use it also when you have ur allies infront of you then cast it to an enemy nearby...
Combo :
Sand King use Epicenter ( Cast )
When Animation Is Finished , Use Ulti To The Enemies :P
kanedacap: I agree that only dmg items and attack speed works great on this hero. But I think that you will be able to help your team even more if you go guinsoo, the hex is very usefull in teambattles and the dmg from it is great.
I can't really agree with that he doesn't need any mana/regen, it's true that he already got a nice manapool but with guinsoo you will be able to barrier your allies instantly in teambattle's and you will be able to use your electric rave for a very long time without your mana running out. And you will still have the mana to grapple your team out of danger or grapple an enemy hero to your allies.
The hex from guinsoo opens for some really nice teamkills, because alot of heroes has some kind of disable or blink away ability so he will be able to get away if you get your overload every sec. Hex a fleeing enemy, run up close to him(bot needed), grapple him to your team, own.
After guinsoo you can go whatever dmg or attack speed item you want, I like stygian alot on him, mkb works great too.
good items will be:
1.BoT (speed + teleport)
2.Guinsoo (mana regen + dammage)
3.Scepter (mana + hp + dammage)
4.MKB (dammage!!!!) if you still have gold
his second skill simply cancels lina inverse and lion.also overload is a nice skill.nice hero
Many people think that Storm Spirit is imbalanced, but I doubt it. First and foremost, he's an Int character, which seems to be a serious drawback since he relies much on his attack speed. His third skill is the most useful of all of his skills, and with his first skill activated, it can deliver a good amount of damage in a few seconds. His second skill seems to be imbalanced, his a 600 shield resistance from magic attacks is overpowered. His ultimate skill isn't really useful in games that are 3v3 and below.
If he is overpowered, I expect Ice Frog to nerf him in the next version. [^_^]
Anyway, my personal choice for him are:
Wraith Band (Cheaper than null, and you need the attack speed)
Power Treads (No comment)
Eye of Skadi (You will own)
Assault Cuirass (You will own more)
One more thing. Who's to say the best build? I mean, it depends on what heroes your opponents are using, right? The important thing is not to get killed, kill, and enjoy the game.
hey guys! mind if i barge in?
i think thunder keg aint a bad addition to
dota heroes. i've played him once and got a dagon for this hero, gave me sure kills. guinsoo's best for damage, manta aint shabby for an orb effect plus the illusions have high hp's.
mjollnir would be cool lookin for this hero but i'd say skadi would be nicer, makes him a better tanker, ayt? but dont get skadi with manta... feel free to comment..
mjolnir is the best orb effect
best pusher for me..
its weak!
its nothing!
I'd get Manta if a lot of the enemies are INT
When I was ally with him,I had techies,I laid some mines then told him to cast his ulti when the other team is close and then BOOOOMM!That combo is just unstoppable.5 kills in one opponents push.Gem cant prevent it,wards cant prevent it,thats because if an enemy with gem comes too close to destroy the mines just ulti him and hes dead.If they have wards destroy them.I've been thinking of a way to prevent this combo but couldnt find anything.Any ideas?
P.S This hero is so cool for us goblin players.
heres what id like to know. in my limited experince playing against this guy, and with what ppl are posting here, why is it being said that his ult can be used as an escape tactic?? it seems to me that if you are being chased as this hero and ult, would u not pull the chasing heros in with u and tp to the target area? if i am mistaken someone pls correct me, if not, i am correcting those that have made this mistake.
Hm, In my last post I said that guinsoo is a good item to go on this hero for many reasons but after playing him some more I've changed my opinnion again.
This hero is a dps dealer and the only thing he needs is attack speed and dmg, 1-2 bracers for hp can be good too.
I start of with hand of midas on this guy and then I farm up to BoT and 1-2 bracers if I need the hp.
After that I farm up to a hyperstone, and then I get another hyperstone. You might think I'm crazy but the attack speed from the hyperstones are GREAT on this hero, simply because you will increase your already insane attack speed with 110 % and you will get your overloads 2 times more than before.
So let's say you have the base damage 90 and get 2 hyperstones(4600 gold). That will simply increase your base dmg by 110 % to 190 dmg and ALSO you will get your overload 2 times more often which is an additional 75 dmg. If you go mkb(5300 gold) instead of hyperstones, that will add 75 dmg and you will have 165 base dmg, a 30 % chance to deal 100 extra dmg, and a 15 % increased attack speed. 1.15 * 165 = 190 base dmg.
Yea, that's the same base dmg alright, but with the 110 % extra attack speed from 2 hyperstones you will get the 75 extra dmg from overload 2 times more often than if you go mkb, and I actually think that's better than the 30 % chance to deal 100 dmg from mkb, but I'm too laisy to calculate all that throughout.
After 2 hyperstone my next item is obviously mkb, because with the insane attack speed from your 2 hyperstones and your first skill you will get your 100 extra dmg from mkb very often
Build order:
2 tangoes, 5 iron wood branches(early stats are good)
Hand of midas
2 bracers
Boots of travel
2 hyperstones
Mkb
Assault
Heart
What do you guys think of my build? I'm open to suggestions. This guys crazy dps potential will be wasted if you go guinsoo instead of only dmg and attack speed, but if your team REALLY needs the hex, then you might consider going it. And I also think that agility items like mjollnir is not the best choice for this hero because you don't get the extra dmg from agility since you are int.
lol our team was killing roshan and storm spirit grappled his team between roshan and our team.
they all got killed and none of us got.
roshan doesnt need to be team ganked anymore though, why would u hav a team vs roshan?
lvl 4 overload tip - hit something 4 times to charge up for the 5th hit to purge...use ur fifth hit on the oponent.
Ever been annoyed at Zeus's constant harassing? Fear no more! I was playing AREM and we happened to both go mid; enemy Zeus and me Storm Spirit. I would Barrier my ally Tormented Soul and he would rush in and stomp on Zeus...and Barrier would totally own Zeus's bolts and lightnings LOL.
what if i have skadi on this hero will the 3rd skill will work will it charge?the ulti is not a good escape bcuz if you are batteling a short range hero and you are about to die and u use the ulti the enemy will be suck 2 and it will be hard to escape from the enemy hero :
the techies will be a great comco w/ Storm panda techies will set 10 bombs the storm will attract enemy and use his ulti and point it out to the bomb then techies will activate it then the enemy hero will be killed base on the Hp they have
his ultimate can be used to escape from ranged heroes. as long as the enemy keeps distance from you they wont get suck in when you use lightning grapple.. this skill is more potent in gbs, trappin and chasing runaways.
his ultimate can be used to escape from ranged heroes. as long as the enemy keeps distance from you they wont get suck in when you use lightning grapple.. this skill is more potent in gbs, trappin and chasing runaways.
lvl 4 overload tip - hit something 4 times to charge up for the 5th hit to purge...use ur fifth hit on the oponent.
This guy is close to sniper in terms of his long range disable. To make him completely imba, and MKB and EOS. He doesn't need attack speed items since his first skill probably already max you out on attack speed. Anyways, here is my build order.
1. BOT, to get your move speed to 400
2. MKB, the 30% 0.01 sec stun compliments your third passive skill.
3. EOS, this makes you a sniper with faster attacks speed due to your first passive.
4. Buriza, now the game should be over if your enemies are smart enough to quit
5. Guinsoo, disable and the attack speed bonus from the oblivion staff earlier is nice.
6. Mekanism is nice option. Linkens is also nice since it blocks a spell after your spell shield is used. Two spell block in a row!
Don't get attack speed items such as cuirass since his attack speed is already phenomeno. Get damage instead.
Hood of defiance is also nice. Gosh, this guy is like a razor + sniper combined without their ultis of course.
His skills tie in together. He farms well. Plus, he's a freakin panda. Can you say "bonus?"
this panda is insane... I LIKE IT!
best for zeus!!!
Ulti's psycho - pull allies and faceless out of chronosphere
it does??
it also cancel pudges ulti
this hero is fucking ownage i usually get ror & bracer to start off then treads then mjollnir (yes it is agi but it works fucking good its basically extra att speed and the lightning dmg is also kinda cool then i get heart and if any moneys left i usually get bfury or buriza thats gg last time i played him with these items i was 23-2
of all the new heroes, this is my best one.
All his skills totally r0ck and each one provides him with something unique.
They all synergize great or each other, plus his 3rd skill rocks!! not to mention his barrier!! wow!!
battle fury rocks on this hero!! lots and lots of splash!!
Definitely a pure PWNAGE hero....
can this beat traxex
I thought Battlefury works only for melee heros?
Hello
I've tried the new panda, i like the way it builds up static and makes a burst... I also started with a null, a bracer and treads. I found out that the battlefury work well, even tho it doesnt give Raijin the vleaving attack gives him speed, dmg and mana regeneration. Also i used 1 or 2 hyperstones which works pretty well. Very fast damage.
Team up w/ Rylai or SK. Instant Blink.
. Love his bug though.
Battlefury does NOT do splash damage with ranged heroes!
lol battlefury, theres better items u can get if u want mana regeneration. i pushed mid lane solo against 2 ranged heroes and dominated mid lane when i was lvl 9. then i pushed anotha lane, farmed enough for a butterfly and won :D. i know he has a spell to increase attack speed, but its insane with butterfly, u overload once every second.
use madness in this hero 4 the efficiency of his 3rd skil!!!
ooops yeah sorry guyz...i forgot battle fury doesn't work with this guy...might i suggest radiance?
well, rom the way i see it i think he should get a guinsoo...i mean for mana regen purposes...
MoM
Crit
Skadi
BoT
and if the game is still going get a hyper
and a linkins
srry for the double post but when i was him the first time i bought a ring of basilius first and went solo on bot. (i was on scourge) and against me in the lane was the bounty hunter and huskar and i was 4-1 in the first 10 min. the game ended soon after that but i had crit ring of basilius boots of speed and a Mask of madness
it was insane!
but mostly cuz i dont do good in dota
lol
Simply a great early gamer.
i like this hero.. w/ Mjollnir.. hes very strong.. and his barrier.. wow....
guys, there's some problem with his barrier. raijin with barrier lvl 4 takes damage with bane's brain sap! OMG he takes the whole damage of it T_T. comments pls.
guys, there's some problem with his barrier. raijin with barrier lvl 4 takes damage with bane's brain sap! OMG he takes the whole damage of it T_T. comments pls.
Brain Sap is trigger based ability and the damage is physical. So barrier wont stop it.
this dude is the ultimate bear in the game
This guy is totally imbalanced. He has the DPS of Silencer, and the HP of any tank out there. Escape device in ulti. Oh wait, he's doesn't have the automatic heal 200-400 hp spell that Dirge has. Oh, good, because for a moment there, I thought he was even more imba than Dirge.
i have played this guy a coupel of times and i fcking love him!!! lol
my best build so far was
- treads
-1 or 2 wraith bands
-guinsoo
-linkens
-curaiss
-skadi
(if really late game get high lv dagon or just a hyperstone for more attack speed )
just go MoM, skady and last buriza..
Only use Dagon 5 , necromincon 3 , Blood stone , Agahanim 's scepter , Guiinso , and MKB , This hero will be the true "KILLER"..................
Damn! He shouldn't be an Int hero,..he should be an Agi hero,..
I admire and hate his Barrier,..works well with Linken,..
I wonder if there's Fire Spirit and Earth Spirit also created,..what it looks like,..?
he^^
Theres an exploit on the ulti :D
I wont tell you what it is, but just grapple all ur creeps as they come along. keep them away from the fights though
@lupeman
exploit eh
isnt it something like a BoT tp to a creep , they stop movign after u grapple them if they outta fite?
yah and when an enemy approaches them... 100 creeps appear :D
the Storm Spirit is the best hero I have ever played whit
PS:int hero but you have to make him agi items and something for slow would be good
I agree that he should have been a agi hero. I wonder why they picked int
I think if they made him an Agi-based hero he would be really imbalanced. Int is fine, actually.
hes a crazy hero over all
but sorta hard to use
his ulti can be confusing to use
so becareful with his casting
oh yeah.. skadis work great with him cuz of the added slow with the slight purge his skill gives try going for skadis if u havent tryed
I'm thinking Manta Style. But that's just me.
Manta Style isn't a bad idea for this hero, especially if you're going against Int-based heroes. Think a ranged Magina.
Anyway, what about cranium bashers?
greatest counter for my ZEUS.. my LIGHTNING BOLT and THUNDERGOD"S WRATH is just a JOKE for him...
I dont think Mjolnir is good with this guy cause agi doesnt do too much for him i think get malstrom and leave it at that.
I dont think Mjolnir is good with this guy cause agi doesnt do too much for him i think get malstrom and leave it at that.
i like to get this guy agility items. cos whateva agility u gain from that item, gets multiplied by 80% when his skill is toggled.
for example, butterfly + 60 ASPD
80% of that is 48
total aspd gained 108 :D
imagine mask of madness, he would be striking every .1 of a second.
skadi
BoT
linkens sphere
assault
and w/e else needed
OWNAGE
focus on mana regeneration stuff and you are godd to go...
What would be best items for this guy. Im using Deso and mkb right now but i am thinking about skadi. the only thing is is that skadi is overpriced...
Grapple and Nevermore's requiem! HEHE!
From the recently appeared heroes I think this guys is really imba
When i play with him I make power treads,s&y,bdk,psv and its already godlike:P...but if the game is longer I sell psv and make mjollnir,cuirass,heart of Tar...but just for fun:D...his 3 skill rocks
Ok i have tested skadi + mjollnir and the heck is that the mjollnir override the skadi effect so dont made this build !!! Skadi is the best weapon for him mix with buriza and guinzos and it's gg.
Barrier is just imba:)))...i escaped from Zeus's ulti many times>:)>:)>:)
I find mjollnir very usefull for this guy, then on to MKB then butterfly
The Perfect Combination of Strength, Agility and Intellegence i've ever seen! He has a high HP gain upon level, unlike other int-types, his electric rave can make him agi-type and you would not waste much money for his mana.. Just Dagon5 and sure mana with OWNAGE! Call me idiot if i'm wrong...
This is the build that i am using for the Storm Spirit right now. Please feel free to comment.
Ring of Basilius
Stygian Desolator
Power Treads
Guinsoos
Assault Curiass
MKB
I feel that this is a pretty good all around build because it gives me a lot of extra attack speed, -11 armor to the enemies, +20 armor for me, around +200 damage, and enough mana and mana regeneration for me to keep Electric rave on for long periods of time.
Please comment on this build.
To Guy Above,
Tbh,
I would get rid of the ring,
its not worth it,
Your ring will give off an aura letting your enemy know when ur close, also i would get the ciruss later, because hes already insane, i would get Crit after MKB
the best allies would be.... 1.leviathan
2.SK
3.venomancer
4.moonfang
5.cristal maiden...
etc.. probably because after the Lg.. levi will perform his ravage then sk epicenter.. fter that poison nova.. then eclipse.. when their still alive.. use the freezing field.. great combo/.. sure kill.. then push.. !
the best allies would be.... 1.leviathan
2.SK
3.venomancer
4.moonfang
5.cristal maiden...
etc.. probably because after the Lg.. levi will perform his ravage then sk epicenter.. fter that poison nova.. then eclipse.. when their still alive.. use the freezing field.. great combo/.. sure kill.. then push.. !
My SHIT!!! i just got this guy at random
giving him a MAJONIR is like giving him a "divine rapier" static becomes 200 + 200 from chain lightning... OMG
u can turn the ring off so it only works on allies.
thats not the best 5 heroes with an AoE effect. best would be...
Magnus (reap everyone in first + stun)
Venomancer (nova and wards)
Lich (ulti + refresher + aghanims is over 6000 damage)
Leviation (ravage will stun and gush will prevent near escapes)
Leshrac (god of all AoEs)
if ur usin a 6v6 map
Pit Lord (pit of malice, expulsion and firestorm, syncs well with Leshrac)
just make guinsoo,butterfly,linkinsphere and he will rule the game
A very lovable hero
love ultimate *drools*, if you have an organize team, you could just find a hero/group of heroes from the other team, then stand in the middle and grapple them all to your awaiting allies. or the other way around which would be grappling ur allies and pulling them to the middle of the enemy team, if it's safe enough... like not pulling ur team into a bunch of techie's explosives or at a sand king casting his epicenter
i think the barrier skill is more like an ulti compared to lightning grapple o.o
Rajin Thunderkeg needs a new icon.
um....you know those holes on the map where you can only access by blink...?
well..if you grapple a few enemies into the hole and then use dagger to blink out...????
ooh..the possibilities...
I think if this guy is played well,. any hero will run back home especially with the grapple thing which make him a good chaser. and also attack speed is the best part of this hero.Level 4 - %80 Attack Speed...lmao...somemore the barrier....rofl!
Nice Nice Nice
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i like it
raijin is one of great hero 4 gangbang u can grapple ur nearby friends 2 ur opponent or enemies and it is a surprise attack. overload makes raijin 2 farm easier and faster.
mjholnier
linken
assault
b-o-t
H-o-t
Mkb
best hero in the game he has ALL other int heros beat
Who can this hero?
well raijin does really is like pandarens ulti summon three pandas.i wish that in the next version they would earth spirit and fire spirit to complete the panda heroes!!!!!!!
Which hero to counter this hero? Untouchable hero, :)
Lothars Edge!
when enemy heroes are near your tower, infirm you team to be alert,use lothars, f behind your enemy and grapple kinda near to your tower and to your team mates. enemy=not prepared your team=prepared
thx 4 d guide....
I'd never use this heroe before but seems to be good. I going to use it today
hey guys wat is the best item for dis hero?pls list down the items...thnks!
Definately a team playing hero.
to the sniper:1.maelstrom
2.orchid of malevolencex2
3.power treads
4.soul booster
5.hood of defiance(great when fighting spammers(lina,lion,rylai)
My build for Storm (Owns btw)
1. 2 nulls
2. Maelstorm
3. Shivas
4. Guinsoos
5. Skadi
6. Butterfly
I use this build a lot and own with it
To The person above...
I dont like hood on this guy because he already has barrier to take out those tough ults (finger, laguna blade, etc.)
I would rather go more dps
really like panda strom
Gr8 hero for learners ulti mate for assist with INT heroes. buy malestorm and vanguard, head to MKB later game. maybe blink dagger to get enhance dominance.
*This Hero will suprise you at first*
The item builds I have seen here have been pretty noob, this is the best build:
Orchid Malevolence
Satanic
MKB
Buriza (get crystalis between Satanic and first MKB)
MKB
A major flaw with the other builds posted here is no survivability.. you need satanic to survive late game 1on1 or 2on1 melee ganks. The other items are intended to increase attack speed while also dumping on the DPS.
Oh and of course.. get INT treads
Survivability for raijin isn't really that important, if you go stats/barrier early game, stats/rave midgame, combined with his hefty 2.5 str gain, you are set for survivability.
Not getting overload seems stupid at first but in actuality level 4 overload is what, 75 damage every 6 attacks? Thats really only 12.5 extra damage on average with a REALLY short slow... 4 levels of stats is +8 int = +8 dmg on average...
Instead you get 8 str (~150 hp), 8 agi (8% ias woopdy) and 8 int (8 dmg). The HP bonus combined with barrier (600 spell dmg absorbed) gives you more than plenty of survivability. Midgame comes around and you got yourself the nice IAS boost.
I'd swap MKB for sheepstick, so for items... MKB owns for strait up damage but turning opponents into sheep is priceless.
Sheepstick
Orchid or MKB
Satanic
Buriza
And others above stated maelstrom, which is another good item for raijin. Consider maybe Maelstrom->Sheepstick->Satanic... Maelstrom is almost all +dmg, only 6 is wasted on AGI. Just don't upgrade maelstrom to mjollnir because its only useful on agi heroes.
if lucy cast doom while having a barrier what will happen
Power Treads (intell)
Null Talisman X2
Stygian Desolator
Guinsoo's Staff of Vyse
Hyperstone
i understand that this hero can simply own zeus's skills how bout facing him with and equally equiped razor what would it be? can he still own razor?
one of the best late gaming int hero
Questions! so about barrier... it prevents 600 magical damage as in like i had it on,and if luna does her 950 (i think) ult on me, i only recieve 350 damage from it? and if she does that does the barrier go away because the full 600 damage was taken in? or does the barrier taken in 600 damage every spell, till the full 20 sec is done?
Also with the overload , does it give 75 bonus damage? or does it just do 75 damage , ignoring the regular damage u do?
hope i phrased that well....
im just a noob
cool hero
This guy is crazy!He even farms good but same with C4-Tiger i start with treads,a single null,Mom,then butter and if ur game still not finish get heart
then its gg
this hero pawns!! i always focus on his mana pool and mana regeneration. i don't like giving him too much agi items. Mjolnir is enough. the thing that i love the most about this hero is his ulti. It's cool for ganks. da's y sand king makes a good ally for him. epi-grapple.
here is my build for'em:
Mjolnir
Eye of Skadi
Assualt Curiass
Shiva's Guard
Orchid Malovelence
Boots of Travel
The right items for me in using raijin is:
Butterfly
Mjollnir
treads
madness
orchid of malovelence
eye of skadi
Godlike build
Mjolnir
Butterfly
PT
EoS
MKB
TP
Godlike build
Mjolnir
Butterfly
PT
EoS
MKB
TP
raijin was imba against int type hero
this guy is so freaking awesome his first skill is crzy 80% increased att spd and his lighning grapple is funny i once grappled an enemy with me into my well-he got fried up
wow how come NO ONE in this thread mentioned gettin any of the new items for this guy? i tried getting the Orchid Malevolence, because it gives him mana regen for his rave, it gives 40% ias on top of his 80% from rave and it also gives soul burn, which let's u silence an enemy and do more dmg to them at the same time, i personally prefer getting this item over guinsoo for storm.
Orchid And Sytgian Or Skadi = GG
For me.
The Raijin's item/s is:
1)Treads
2)Shivas Guard
3)Mkb
4)Mkb
5)Vanguard
6)Skadi
You can change skadi or vanguard in any items.
is it combo w/ mirana?
this dude has a cheat
my opponent on gg used kardel
i picked raijin...
when my hp is 164...
he assassinate me
his assassinate is lvl 3
i see in the status "assassinate"
then i put a barrier(skill 2)on myself
then the assassinate on damage me 40..
whoa this dude is awesome....
anti assassinate = barrier skill
I would buy treads,2 bracer,deso/mjollnir and butter fly.
Its Holy Shit Dude!
aoe killers plus him equals
death of us all sandking casts epi then suddenly he lightning grapples every body ther and then black hole eidolons attack too hence...... OWNAGE!!!!!
HERE IS THE PERFECT BUILD FOR SS
those who were wondering, ss is my boy! when i started playing dota, i asked my friend who was the worst hero. he told me ss in a heartbeat, so i played him nonstop for a month, and i was happy to show him the replay i went beyond godlike on.
so here is the perfect build, work for it in that order
treads (agi)
mkb (need to save orb effects for leech)
helm of the dominator (get a cent)
blink dagger (ok, some people would disagree with me, but if you're being attacked by melee, grapple will pull them with you, so i don't think it's an effective escape tool, unless you see them coming, so trust me on this one, blink dag or lothars is important)
then i finish it up with SnY for the life, ms, agi, etc. it's just great.
DONE
A Great new hero has nice Skills and great Animation. The balance is also okay.
Great for all aoe heroes so when ur teammate or more teammates pick aoe heroes
pick him!!!
Rave use 15 mana per second for 180% attack speed. Compared to Ulfsaar's overpower: 5 mana per second for 400% attack speed
Barrier is good but only one hero can use it each time.
Overload is also no comparison to Dark Seer's Ion Shell. 75 dmg per 5 attack VS 75 dmg every second.
Grapple is versatile but a long animation delay makes it less useful than one might thought.
Overall, this is not good but not super hero
One more point, his extremely low armor makes him killed almost instantly when ganged even if he has high str (HP)
Lupeman u r dumb. Read some guide before u comment on Attack Speed.
IAS is in percent and it increases by 80% when u use Rave. Hyperstone increases by 55 too, so u get 135, not 1.8 x 55. Then it is applied to the base cooldown.
Think before u post lupeman and please stop talking about urself, how u own some begginers or how good items u get while playing with a hero.
WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT U DO
My personal build:
- 2 x Bracers
- Treads(int)
- Orchid Malevolence
(this last item is made for this hero).
Lovely hero x
try this:
MKBx2
Mjollnir
treads
Quirass
Vanguad or Butterfly or Buriza
my favorite heroe, eye of skadi, boots of travel and butterfly and maybe an assult curias, ouchy!
for me... build dis hero wid:
- mjolnir
- power threads
- linkens spear
- vanguard
- MKB
- Buriza
its gud 2 see storm spirit wen ataking its element is thunder wen u combine mjolnir with it and with its high speed atcking u will be unstapable... of course first u must build it wid power threads vanguard and maelstorm for money making....
My Raijin item:
-Skadi
-Mjolnir
-Assault
-Power Treads(Agility)
-butterfly
-sacred relic
Treads (INT)
Quirass
Basher
Basher
Satanic
This guy is insane i just played him to day. has the highest DPS rate i have every seen. even though he is intell you should build his agi
Items for this guy
-butterfly
-Mjollnir
-BoT
-hyper
His lightning grapple goes through voids ulti.... xP soo cool
I just thought about a FUN build, this isn't meant to be a competitve build. I just thought it would be funny if you got it. The build is 4 hyperstone, powertread, and the LENGENDARY divine rapier! I'll repeat myself again, this is a fun build. you will 388% IAS with an average of 362 damage per hit! Dps is...around 866 dps! excluding dmg from overload.
oops, i meant 1443 dps, not 866. hehe
EoS 2xvanguard mjollinir guinsoo PT unkillable godlike build
EoS 2xvanguard mjollinir guinsoo PT unkillable godlike build
Is this hero can be played at DotA v6.51?
AAAaawwww, one of his guides went missing...
hes my favorite int hero. baecause hes the only int hero that is the priamry build is
mjolnir
buterfly
skadi
buterfly
linken
insane atackspeed with purge and ownage baby!
bot - insane mspd
maelstorm - farming
eos - slow and stats
assault - aspd and armor
buriza - damage
orchid - aspd and damage
Treads (AGI)
Mjolnir
Shiva's
Orchid Malevolence
Panda is a good hero....
he owns atk spd and he kills razor...
RAZOR IS SHIT TO PANDA.....
RAZOR IS AN F-IN GAY PRICK TO PANDA
PANDA IS ONE OF THE FASTEST CHARACTERS..
two words....
Unlimited...mana
get refresher orb and linkens sphere..
and you got Unli Mana....
leave elec rave on...forever....
and get dagon5....he nids it...
but....unli-mana...its crazy man...
CRAZY
hows this:
int treads
orchid of malevolence
mkb
assault c
Other 2: never got that far into a game
I wish ppl would stop posting insane builds, you only ever get them in like a 90 min apem, or if there are like two leavers from your team. Be realistic.
Most games I go for:
Intel Treads
Mask of Madness/Helm of Dominator
Orchids
and thats about it, apart for some early game items like ring of regen or nulls. But just with those 3 main items you can go against most heroes.
