Sho Fei Hwah - The Drunken Fist

Mad. I like the ideas, and the story's funny, but Stupor is far too imba. Thats too good for an ULT. Honestly. Someone else tell him how to remake or change that one.

@Shimrra_3: Stupor is a less spammable Nature's attendants that heals more for self quickly and doesn't heal allies. Just wake him up with an area spell then kill him. If ever, I guess lower it a notch, since it does take less time than nature's attendants to heal.

@Kaiyen: That was fast. Nice one. I'm not the one to rate this, though. You already know what I think aout it anyway. Also, slash the Dance of the Drunkard's cooldown to 100. Too spammable at 50. Notices Kamahl and Iwamori, what are the other 2 skills?

@Shimrra_3: yeah, I did think the ultimate may have been a bit too deadly. Tried for a bit of balance with the extra 25% damage. I agree with quickbrownfox: I can increase the cooldown on the ult and possibly lower the health regen or duration for stupor.

@quickbrownfox: The other two cards are essence bottle and budoka pupil, I believe.

The ultimate is too much imba but the rest of the idea is great !! good job just work on the ult and it will be a great idea

Chance for criticals because all you said was 2.5x crit.

Reminds me of Rock Lee and he is leet so you are leet good job.

@ TrueBlueMetalhead: yes I did say the chance for critical during the level 3 ultimate was 2.5x. Did you have a question about it?

@Kaiyen: I think he thinks 2.5X is the multiplier, and the %chance for a critical hit is missing. I think it was 20/25/30% the last time. Might have been lost in the edit.

Beer Rocks! With this hero, Mangix can share his passion for beer.

To all viewers: Since this is my first Hero Idea, I'd like a bit of feedback on how I'm doing. I'm seeing a goodly amount of hits, but few actual comments/suggestions. I'd be quite appreciative if you left a little something after reading. Thanks!

I've been thinking for a while (haven't rated dispite previous comment) and that ult is very creative. Using attack speed to get bonus damage and evasion. Original. And its still cool. And the ult isn't as imba as I'd thought either, considering how its channeling (you did not say it is, but it is, say that, woulda had be in seconds if you had said that...) Soooo.. 10/10

Huh. I didn't think of having a channeling ultimate at all. Interesting idea. I guess I don't think of channeling as a process where a drunk guy runs around and smacks people. But if that balances it a bit (i.e. his ultimate gets interrupted when he's hit...) all the better.

Basic info looks fine..

Body Slam = Looks balanced to me.

Stupor = Balanced.

Way of the Empty Bottle = Something bothering me about the attack speed bonus. When you are hit, you gain ASPD or it just adds ASPD? Is there a cap?

Dance of the Drunkard = Maximum movespeed is 522. Unless you convert your hero to a projectile [which probably isn't possible]

I saw someone else that had a skill with movement speed of 700, so I assumed that was a viable number. Mk, I'll change it then.

I never thought about a cap to Empty Bottle, since I assumed 15 seconds was a short enough duration to prevent him from going too high. I don't quite understand your question about attack speed. What's the difference between gaining ASPD and adding ASPD?

umm... crazy. I quite like this hero idea. please reduce the effect of Stupor.....

@aku_rian: I'm glad you liked it. I'm a bit wary on decreasing stupor's effect (i.e. amount healed per sec). It's not as powerful as you think. Compare it to the most similar skill Nature's Attendants. It only heals himself (rather than ally AoE heal), has a longer cooldown, and only heals for a few more hp early levels (heals for less late levels compared to NA). I can see how the invis + sleep transfer may make it seem too powerful, but at 180 mana all levels, it's really expensive, especially for an agi hero (Enchantress is Int). Maybe that changed your mind.

NOO! I said THAT?!? The HEAL is channeling. I am so dumb, the HEAL. Not the ulti. Now that you've replied I need to consider the ulti with channeling, but the HEAL. You can't move without interrupting it, its a channel, am I right?

@Shimrra_3: Yep. Stupor is definitely channeled, or at least the mechanic is the same. I'd prefer the ultimate not be canceled when Fei gets hit, since that would make it a bit underpowered.

Hmm.. I guess Way of the empty bottle is fine, since the cap is 500% IAS anyway.

lol another mgic card

Aahahaha, that IS more MtG. Body Slam pic is 'Kamahl, Fist of Krosa' and some others look similar...

I think it more better if attacking unit fall asleep for the rest duration but it will take damage, not regenerate its hp.

The regeneration would not apply to attacking unit if it hit Fei during stupor, only the rest of the sleep duration. Spells DO wake him up, but don't count as an attack, so the spellcaster will not fall asleep.

stupid

lol nice

i say that u get stupor a little less cooldown but all in all nice herohttp://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/biggrin.gif
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wow... NICE!!! im waiting to play this hero one day 10/10

a drunk hero......ok sounds like pandaren brewmaster from wc3 game arent those item icons from magic the gathering?

@Firesky: Yeah, except Magnix doesn't really play like a drunken master. His ultimate splits him into three elemental pandas (WTF?! ) and he's got a slam-the-ground mass stun effect.... I wanted to make one with skills that kind of matched.

Yes, those icons are from Magic the Gathering. 'Tis why I thanked them for the interesting artwork.

Stupor is still a little too strong IMHO, hell, even a 125hp per sec is good enough for me

Otherwise, nice skills and a very playable hero you have there! 8/10

Seems kind of overpowered, oh well, most characters are in their own little way.

wad a great hero...

his ulti looks like ursa

3 things....
too much str
heal 175 a sec... holy shit 350 heal at lvl 1.... lvl 4 875heal!!!!! WAY TOO IMBA
bodyslam omg so IMBA
deals 250 damage stun 3 minutes and slow 4 seconds. That leaves 5 seconds to follow the enemy and do it again....

@youdienow123

3 min stun? xD 3 sec ;)

@Kaiyen

Does Gem or wards make's him visable when he doing stupor? And i think his ulti remindes me about juggernauts o,O and finally does linken remove his selfstun on bady slam? and u can escape with bodeyslam? o,O like u are ganked u stun them and jump away? // Nukes

Haha drunk Too good ulti need much working

@youdienow123
1) He's a martial artist, which means he'll probably start with higher strength.

2) Yes, Stupor was designed to make him survivable at lower levels, but it's healing effectiveness would decrease at higher levels. However, check the mana cost: very high for a low int character. If you've been body slamming too much, you won't be able to use the heal.

3) Body slam is low damage, but high disable. Yes, it stuns for 3 seconds and slows for 4 seconds at level 4. BUT Fei's also stunned for 1.25 seconds, so effective 1.75 sec stun and 4 sec slow with respect to only Fei. However, the recharge time for the skill is TWELVE seconds!! That's 5 un-disabled seconds for the person to run away, or stun Fei, or slow him or maneuver into the trees or go up terrain or what have you. Keep in mind that if Fei does body slam offensively, he'll probably be behind enemy lines, which puts him in considerable danger, not to mention the spikes that could freely happen in that 1.25 seconds he is stunned himself.


@youlikemynukes: Yes, Gem and wards will show Fei, of course. Would be silly not to, otherwise people could never attack him and they would never fall asleep themselves.

I'd probably say that Linken's wouldn't prevent the self-stun, otherwise the skill WOULD be imbalanced. You can definitely use body slam to stall or stop ganks. But remember the self stun. If you're double or triple ganked, running away would be slightly difficult. That's why I suggested using Stupor or Lothar's.


@xanynorian: any reason the ultimate's too good? I based it around the Juggernaut's ultimate, but with the twist that he gets better damage and crits and takes more damage (watch out for nukes!).

Aww..another asian character! No please!

nice hero

magic card art is awesome

background story is great, is he drunk while training in the forest? (cause that would be some awesome training)

base hp is kinda high imo for an agi hero, and the 1.62 seems random, why not just 1.6? and his armor is really low for a melee agi hero, this could be a compensation for a high base hp

body slam is cool and balanced, the self stun is a nice addition and very original, seems kinda powerful since I am equating it to a blink strike with more damage and a

stun, maybe increase the cooldown some

stupor is powerful, yet balanced since it costs 180 mana, which will be really hard for his 1.62 int/lvl gain, I think that 875 hp for 180 mana is really powerful though, maybe scale down the hp regen

way of the empty bottle needs a hotkey, even if it isn't an activated ability, is it like Huskar's berserker blood where the more he gets hit, the more powerful he becomes? or does it trigger off of him hitting the enemy? still cool and original effect

dance of the drunkard seems too much like omnislash imo, which is sad since you had such great original skills, is it possible to hit him during this time? cause if no then the extra damage he takes won't matter? if he gets stunned/disabled will that interrupt his spell? or will he keep going afterwards? (like Nevermore with Requiem of Souls)

skill synergy is good

he won't really be that fragile since he has a high base hp and has 2 str/lvl, very powerful, armor isn't necessry either, since he

be getting some from all the agi he gets, and crits from items won't stack with the crits from his ulti, although the items that give crits also give lots of damage

he also works well with ES since ES can clear all the creeps and then he can finish up the heroes

aoe spells will also work instead of true sight, and yes those aoe heroes are good, you might also include tiny since his double avalanche toss combo will be easy to execute and will severely damage you

for items, HoT, treads, bfly

are all good, HoT would be late game imo

the Crystalis isn't really needed imo, maybe a MKB for damage and attack speed, or a BKB so he doesn't get interrupted when doing his combo

thinking about it BKB would be really good, gives some hp and damage, and the avatar would prevent you from being interrupted while using your ulti, and it might also stop the stun from body slam

hyperstone is meh, there are other items that will give him aspd, maybe MoM as that would also give lifesteal

a Bfury

might be a good option, it gives damage, and the regen from Perseverance will be good early game

9.7/10 great ideas, original, needs some balancing imo