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Quicksilver - Flowstone Elder

Created by Shimrra_3 on 2007-04-19
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Quicksilver had once worked with Raigor Stonehoof - in fact, he taught him much of what he knows now. But he couldn't bear to join him in fighting the Sentinel-Scourge war. Years later, and after much time spent contemplating the matter, his whole tribe was destroyed by the Scourge. Stricken with grief and obsessed with revenge, he finally joined the Sentinel to avenge his people.

Boulderdash (D)
Quicksilver dashes foward, dealing minor damage in his wake. Range increases with level.
Level 1 - 100 damage, 300 range.
Level 2 - 130 damage, 400 range.
Level 3 - 160 damage, 500 range.
Level 4 - 190 damage, 600 range.
Mana Cost: 80/90/100/110
Cooldown: 12/11/10/9

Framework: Dashes foward, leaves a small ripple effect about halfway through. With Flowstone Armor (Ultimate Skill), Boulderdash creates small Fissure effects (collision size 50 units wide, length based on range)

Notes: A relatively puny skill, but gets powerful with Flowstone Armor.

Tremor (R)
Quicksilver slams the ground, sending shockwaves into his enemies. Damages and inflicts Knockback on enemies in a 300 AOE around Quicksilver. This has the effect of stunning them for one second.
Level 1 - 60 damage, 125 Knockback distance.
Level 2 - 130 damage, 150 Knockback distance.
Level 3 - 200 damage, 175 Knockback distance.
Level 4 - 270 damage, 200 Knockback distance.
Will not send units over impassable terrain.
Mana Cost: 160
Cooldown: 18/16/14/12

Framework: Earthshock framework under Quicksilver, enemies get a Knockback effect and a stun buff for one second.

Crash (C)
Quicksilver springs into the air and comes down on top of an enemy unit. Range increases with level. Stuns and damages a single target.
Level 1 - 75 damage, 0.75 second stun, 400 range.
Level 2 - 125 damage, 1.25 second stun, 500 range.
Level 3 - 175 damage, 1.75 second stun, 600 range.
Level 4 - 225 damage, 2.25 second stun, 700 range.
Mana Cost: 145
Cooldown: 35/30/25/20

Framework: Earthshock Framework under Quicksilver, Quicksilver flies up; simultaneously, Earthshock under the target. Then Quicksilver comes down on top of the target, inflicting the stun in the process.

Notes: This can only target enemies, so it isn't an imba escape/pursuit skill. It can't be used like, say, Timewalk. But an ideal strategy would be to target Neutral Creeps to escape a gank (Put wards, or have allies heroes/summons there. OR use Necro Minions for vision).

Flowstone Armor (F)
Quicksilver imbues himself with rocky power, lowering his base movement speed and range but increasing his abilities' power. Ability changes apply to all levels of the skill.
Level 1 - Base movement speed reduced by 5, attack range reduced by 50. Boulderdash - damage increased by 10, cooldown reduced by 1, leaves a Fissure behind for 2 seconds. Tremor - damage increased by 10, cooldown reduced by 1, Knockback increased by 25. Crash - damage increased by 25, range increased by 100, stun increased by 0.25 seconds.
Level 2 - Base movement speed reduced by 10, attack range reduced by 100. Boulderdash - damage increased by 20, cooldown reduced by 2, leaves a Fissure behind for 4 seconds. Tremor - damage increased by 20, cooldown reduced by 2, Knockback increased by 50. Crash - damage increased by 50, range increased by 200, stun increased by 0.50 seconds.
Level 3 - Base movement speed reduced by 15, attack range reduced by 150. Boulderdash - damage increased by 30, cooldown reduced by 3, leaves a Fissure behind for 6 seconds. Tremor - damage increased by 30, cooldown reduced by 3, Knockback increased by 75. Crash - damage increased by 75, range increased by 300, stun increased by 0.75 seconds.
Passive ability.
Mana Cost: N/A
Cooldown: N/A

Framework: Quicksilver's sprite (god knows exactly what it is) turns darker with each level of the skill, going from a light brown to a neutral grey to a dark grey (maybe).

Notes: This is the key skill. Its more or less like Ogre Magi's Multicast and/or Death Prophet's Witchcraft - it improves all the other skills to a deadly level.

Discussion:

The Flowstone Elder

Quicksilver - Flowstone Elder

I thought of this while I was devising my last hero idea, the Raging Goblin (and I don't know if this is posted yet or will be at this time). It started with the main two skills, the dash attack (because dash attacks are COOL) and the knockback attack (because theres not enough knockback in DotA). Then I decided I wanted a synergy. So the idea blossomed into this.

Skill Synergy:

Boulderdash Tremor Crash Flowstone Armor

The skills are very obviously meant to work with one another.

Boulderdash + Tremor OR Tremor +

Use Boulderdash to get close to an enemy, then bounce them around with Tremor, preferably towards your tower or something (position yourself accordingly while they're stunned).

They are already close: use Tremor on them, then use Boulderdash to zoom into whereever they went.

Crash + Tremor OR Tremor + Crash

Use Crash on them, then Tremor them while they're stunned and close by.

(Same thing again) they were already close, use Tremor then Crash on them.

Boulderdash + Flowstone Armor

Once you have the ultimate, Flowstone Armor, you start using Boulderdash creatively, in the same manner as Earthshaker's Fissure skill. Block off areas! Whether this prevents escape, prevents pursuit, or simply separates a huge AOE team, use it to your advantage. Seal a foe between impassable terrain and a Fissure!

Boulderdash + Tremor + Crash + Flowstone Armor

Once you have the full skillset, you start to use Quicksilver to his full potential. Crash on someone, Boulderdash over their escape route while hes stunned, then Tremor him. Then (assuming you have this, which theres a good chance of) Summon Necronomicon Minions, and tell them to attack the victim! Then attack him yourself, possibly Hex him or Dagon him. Then Boulderdash the escape route again, the first one will be nearly gone, OR he may have decided on a new way to flee through. Then Tremor him again. If he finally manages to escape, Crash him again! If not, keep doing this. If you can manage, seal your foe between a Boulderdash Fissure and some impassable terrain as mentioned while your allies butcher him.

Item Build:

The key to additinal items is simple: you are in control of the battle, and you want to keep it that way! Chiefly, any additional disables. Thats first. Secondary (a close second mind you) is mana and mana regen, which means Intelligence items. Getting more general survivability should be for last, when you don't particularly need it but can't improve your deadly side any further. So. Dagon, Guinsoo, Eul's, Arcance Ring, Skadi, Necronomicon (hopefully 3, not much point otherwise), Diffual Blade, Linkens, that sort of thing. Maybe a Blink Dagger, probably more for escape than pursuit considering your already suitable pursuit skills, but some people want everything they can get.

Boots of Travel Diffusal Blade Eul`s Scepter of Divinity Dagon Necronomicon Linken`s Sphere Eye of Skadi Guinsoo`s Scythe of Vyse Arcane Ring Kelens Dagger of Escape (whichever combination best suits the user)

Allies:

Anyone who could set an enemy up for your disables with their disables, or vice versa. Heavy disablers, such as Lion, Rhasta, Pugna, Earthshaker, Bane, Crystal Maiden, Pudge, Enigma, Treant Protector, Witch Doctor, Furion and Meepo.

Rylai Crestfall - The Crystal Maiden Raigor Stonehoof - The Earthshaker Rooftrellen - The Treant Protector Darchrow - The Enigma Furion - The Prophet Rhasta - The Shadow Shaman Lion - The Demon Witch Pugna - The Oblivion Atropos - The Bane Elemental Pudge - The Butcher Vol`Jin - The Witch Doctor Meepo - Geomancer

Enemies:

Anyone who can disable Quicksilver enough that he can't execute his combos. Which is to say, most of the people above, bar maybe Furion, Pugna, Pudge, and Meepo (you can use Boulderdash to escape these combos, while the others make you helpless). Also, anyone with a good escape skill that could be used to exit your combo safely. Windwalkers don't completely count for this.

Morphling - The Morphling Mirana Nightshade - Priestess of the Moon Magina - The Anti-Mage Akasha - The Queen of Pain Dark Terror - The Faceless Void Crixalis - The Sand King Mercurial - The Spectre

Conclusion:

Quicksilver is a hero that would require some practice to win with, but once this is achieved you would be the main force on your team. Disabler, pursuer, and damager.

Changelog:

2007-04-20: Due to popular demand, lowered his base INT by 2; conversely increased his base AGI by 2, which doesn't help him at all. Also lowered the mana cost of Boulderdash by 10 on each level - 120 for 190-220 damage dash, I think no.

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1 By Junior 2007-04-19

I SAY YOUR HERO IS GREAT.

2 By DOTA_filth 2007-04-19

This hero is FAN-freakin-tastic. I can visualize the combos in my head as I'm reading this. Flowstone Elder would be an awesome addition to the DotA lineup.

P.S. MtG seems inspirational

3 By Pharrot 2007-04-19

at first i was going to say " HOLY MESS LOOK AT HIS STARTING MANA AND HEALTH!" but this is a really good hero. not too imba, not too weak. i could see his plus's and disadvantages on the battle field. kick butt.

4 By `UnholY` 2007-04-19

maybe lower the base STR because most INT heroes start with nearly 450 HP except for ogre magi. and lower the base int too by, 1 or 2, since 311 mana is already high early game. but all the rest is OK man. will rate after more comments

5 By Hunter_13 2007-04-19

Great herobut lower the str and int like Unholy said

6 By Shadowinks 2007-04-19

Cool! Very synergised hero........9/10

7 By Ae]Sprite 2007-04-19

This guy is like SpiritBreaker BUT EVEN BETTER. Nice hero!!!

8 By `UnholY` 2007-04-19

this hero has 6.5 stat gain per level! too high.. lower the str gain and base str.. make the int gain probably 2.9.. then it'll be better

9 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-20

I'm glad the one apparant problem is easily solved. I'll change the stats a bit, after more comments - probably increase the base Agility some, which won't help him that much to tell the truth. Glad you like him.

10 By wourmis 2007-04-20

dude
itz a kewl hero......

11 By VikiFanatic 2007-04-20

Hmmmm... Very interesting...

12 By Ricko 2007-04-20

Totally awesome idea, very well balanced with -ve effects on movespeed and attack speed on ulti. Hope this gets in, sounds fun to play with.

13 By Black Angel 2007-04-20

I reccomend ulti being activatable and not passive since there are times that you will need your movement and times that you will need damage on skills.
He doesnt look like a nuker or hero killer since his skills are no high damage so he would be good at harrasing.
STR heroes like Bradwarden or Pudge will not feel nothing by his spells..
1st skill:What if u get stunned?
Overall:GREAT HERO MAN!

14 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-20

Thanks all. Now: who wants me to change his stats like previously discussed? I don't wanna do it if its not necessary, and I kinda like em how they are too... speak up please.

15 By Farmstalker 2007-04-20

I would say keep the strength how it is - he's an up-close-and-personal caster to begin with, and he becomes even more so as the game progresses - buuuut, I'd lower the INT a little bit, or at least the gain. Personally, mind you

Other than that one little tidbit, this Hero kicks @#$!!! I'd definitely learn to use him, and he'd be quite fun to see in the game.

The only other thing I'd say is that his theme is real close to Raigor's or even Tiny's (earth/dirt/stone)...but he's different enough to where that doesn't really matter so much.

16 By killengerV 2007-04-20

I like it alot.
kinda "kinda" like a tiny in aspects
he will need lots of mana tho to pull of those combos.
looks pretty sweet

17 By krocka1020 2007-04-20

I love your hero, he seems like a fun hero to play with. boulderdash is like a fissure that you move through? thats freakin cool. very nice...
My only complaint is that crash seems similar to boulderdash, you could probably make boulderdash have a light stun and create something in place of crash? obviously a minor stun because a blink stun is just ridiculously imba.

would love to see this guys icon show up under rexxars for the sentinel.

18 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-20

I'm gonna lower the base INT and put the base AGI up, skills I don't think are a problem. Hopefully this hero does not exit the page forever...

19 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-22

Aaaanndd we're back.

20 By Naidonis 2007-04-22

just great hero idea

21 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-22

Hmmhmm, thank you. Now if only everyone who's said 'rate after more comments/fixes' or similar would come back now...

22 By Farmstalker 2007-04-22

10/10

23 By Mogster 2007-04-22

How can he be int?

24 By Firesky 2007-04-22

hes good but he seems like a Tiny inverse crash is toss only u get tossed and raigor is mixd in here 2 hmmm he not bad but ... he reminds me too much of Tiny and hes my fave ever T_T 8/10

25 By Transfat 2007-04-22

very nice skill synergy, and very creative.

10/10

26 By H4TE 2007-04-22

Not bad but jst adjust ur ulti it reduces greatly like jst make it reduce basemovementspeed by 10 and reduce 100 attack range

27 By dARk_StAr_27 2007-04-22

!!! nice , nice , nice !!!

28 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-23

Yay good comments. Ummm... lessee...
@ H4TE = I had to have the ratio ramp up properly - 5/10/15 and 50/100/150 - and theres no good way to make it end in 10 and 100. Besides, he ceases to actually need those qualities once he gets his full skills. Oh, and getting Skadi (maybe) makes the question moot anyway.
Again, thanks for the comments and stars ... hehe five stars yay...

29 By elrich 2007-04-23

Nice....

He's Good At multi killer...

And great defending...

>.

30 By stoyo 2007-04-25

six seconds of fissure sounds like a lot, dont you think?

31 By dOtA-AlLsTAr 2007-04-25

at first i thought that your first skill should be buffed, but then i looked at all your other skills and when you combine all of them its really pretty good! but i still say the should still be buffed...

32 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-26

@ stoyo = well... Raigor's Fissure lasts 8 seconds and its huge. The thing with this is its also an escape skill and a spamming skill, which is very dodgy.
@ dOtA-AlLsTAr = I don't think it should be buffed. As I've just said, its an escape skill and a spamming skill in addition to doing damage and possibly trapping them. With maxed skills (ie lvl3 Armor and lvl4 Dash), this thing lasts for 6 seconds and has a cooldown of 6 seconds! So, its a renewable trapping skill. AND its nearly as good as Blink in terms of entering and exiting combat. So why buff it more? I would have to increase the mana cost (which I KNOW I just lowered) to a higher amount, and that would ruin the spammability (I doubt thats a word, but sue me) of the skill, and no-one wants that. So there... baaa.

33 By mjs 2007-04-26

N
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34 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-26

Thanks.

35 By Capwn33 2007-04-26

wow this hero owns, maybe a little to hard, but he isn't imba. He has 3 abilities for damage and an ult. that is passive. That's hot. So you can just spam the fuck out of your monster moves and ur ult helps w/o having to use it sparingly, like a better tiny. gj 10/10

36 By jabu28 2007-04-28

WOW! I HOPE WARCRAFT ADD THIS IN DotA!!

10/10

37 By TheJuggernaut 2007-04-28

best hero ive ever seen his skills work well toghether and he can be countered unlike most hero ideas which i like encase i fight him lol. I would use this hero all the time if he was created.

38 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-29

Thanks guys. Nothing more to be said.

39 By DarkSlayer_14 2007-04-30

SpeechleSS NicE!!!

40 By Maga 2007-04-30

gj man ! 10/10

41 By Shimrra_3 2007-05-01

Thanks. Goooood no bullsh!t flaming going on... everyone likes that...

42 By poppyc0ck 2007-05-02

great combo abilities and his skills aren't too imba. hot hero idea. i just dont understand why he would be an int hero. he seems more like a str hero.

43 By Shimrra_3 2007-05-03

He's INT because he has a load of nukes/activatable skills. He isn't attack based or a tank.

44 By dacoofoo247 2007-05-05

A hero like this should be melee.

45 By mikorkeza 2007-05-06

WEW!!!

THIS HERO IS DELISYOSO LIKE ALIMANGO!!!

I LIKE THIS ONE!!!

Maybe it can first blood at level 4 maybe???

This is one wicked monster sick hero!!

Good job!!!

But I have a question:

How much time does it take for a mod to approve a hero idea? Just askn'.

Please kindly reply.

ThankxZx!!

46 By Shimrra_3 2007-05-10

@ mikorkeza = it varies, depending on many things (such as if its dead stupid or questionable). Like, if they think something needs to be clarified, they'll ask, or if they want a coupla skills heavily fixed, they'll say that. But if they like it, they'll post it within a week or so. Generally. Just don't put in a fix without adding to the changelog - that usually takes your guy off the page for months and then no-one finds it ever again because it returns with a dozen guys in front, and its NOW page 2 or 3 or 4 (unpleasant, I HAVE experienced this). Hopefully that helps. @ all - glad you like the hero.

47 By 50r4 2007-05-11

nice hero,heh I will claim it when I play using it.

48 By 50r4 2007-05-11

.What do you think the items that are very useful for you when using this hero, just asking.

49 By 50r4 2007-05-11

.What do you think the items that are very useful for you when using this hero, just asking. please answer.

50 By Shimrra_3 2007-05-11

@ 50r4 = view the itembuild please. (Fine: any additional disables, then INT/Mana items, then survivablity items, in that order - try to combine these categories in better items when possible, ie Necro is hp, mana, and summons)

51 By peacechaser 2007-05-15

simple explanation yet rational. What I love the most is the magic combo that could be done, It's not amazing if this hero will be included in dota.

This hero reminds me of Raigor The Earthshaker anyway (earth magic, one skill improves the others). Are you inspired from him?

52 By Shimrra_3 2007-05-16

Cross between ES and Ogre Magi, yes. But I started, like I said (somewhere) with the Dash and Tremor skills and worked up from there.

53 By archmage1222 2007-05-17

sry but boulderdash is imba with lvl 3 ulti...i mean, a 6 sec stun with only 9 sec cooldown

54 By archmage1222 2007-05-17

wait actually, the ulti reduces the cooldown to 6 sec, so thats permastun of 6 sec...people should have noticed that...

55 By Shimrra_3 2007-05-18

Thats just the fissure. Boulderdash does not stun. Read please, thank you, you'll find it much more balanced.

56 By geofkools07 2007-05-19

i see that the hero is balance though i cant understand the last skill..isee that u make it int type bcoz of his great need of mana but i cant imagine the int hero crashing slamming and dashing...

57 By Shimrra_3 2007-05-19

A heroes primary attribute shouldn't really mean anything... ie, Anub'arak is an Agility hero but has nukes. Ursa is an Agi tank. Night Stalker is Strength DPS hero. So an Intelligence hero is theoretically allowed to have... unusual nukes, yes?
Confusion about the last skill is understandable; it basically does exactly what it says - that skill gains such and such, etc. It makes all of Quicksilver's skills stronger, in the same way Death Prophet's Witchcraft skill does. So Crash for example becomes a 300 damage 3 second stun chasing skill. Thats seriously imba, right? But its only with lvl3 ultimate. Likewise, thats not a very powerful skill for an ultimate either - but the other two skills get bulked up as well. Flowstone Armor is, in the end, a cross between Witchcraft, Multicast, and Grow.

58 By ncc1701 2007-05-24

Nije lose bre. Cool I think. 10/10

59 By tnguy93 2007-05-29

i have to say this is a great idea of a hero. but i fink i needs a bit of nerfing wif the skills, too many nukes.

60 By ngelo17 2007-05-30

pangit mukhang matanda!

61 By Aj1 2007-07-04

Good Her0

62 By chickenheap 2007-07-07

Very Nice!!! But would be hard to combo due to all 3 spells cost over 100 mana and you have very low INT. Would need some iNT items for build and would really only be good early/mid game I think because of lack of damage??? I give 10/10 though i like him alot.

63 By RatzaTM 2007-07-12

Very very nice and balanced . Get penalized as his ulti increases which is nice . Also not that imba .

64 By Sora92 2007-08-03

great man!!!!!!

65 By AddyDaniel 2007-08-09

I'm waiting for this guy to show up in DotA. very nice Hero. i love it ^-^

66 By Its_A_Me_Gondar 2007-09-09

THis is great! i want to play him right now! excellent mixture of nukes, he seems like a perfect gank partner. He just looks like a boatload of fun to play!

67 By salamii 2007-09-29

love it 10/10

68 By chukdy 2007-10-27

Indeed, a very synergised hero!

69 By grillz16 2007-11-13

very awesome!!!!!!!!

70 By AXCELACCEL 2007-11-21

nice hero

71 By Used-PinkCondom 2008-01-19

Love the INT-str mixture in this hero idea, all of the skills opens a new door of tactics, i would LOVE to see this guy on the battlefield as soon as possible.

72 By sand_king26 2008-03-14

Hero is great..8/10

73 By Sventagarden 2008-03-23

nice hero!

74 By inpoke_slarder_morph_pawn 2008-04-14

great