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Cid - The Mechanic

Created by `UnholY` on 2007-04-17
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A friend of Cloud and Sora. He owns a shop made of metal and gears, he was the best-seller in his town and country when talking about tools, but when Sephiroth fought with Cloud, Sephiroth casted Meteor and destroyed the whole city, including his shop. When he heard the news that Cloud joined the Sentinal in a war, and he also knew that Sephiroth joined Sentinel's enemy, the Scourge. He knew he had to take revenge, so he joined Cloud and the Sentinel to destroy the Frozen Throne and take revenge on Sephiroth.

Hammer Fall (R)
Cid forcefully slams his hammer to the ground, making the units affected heavily stunned.
Level 1 - Stuns for 1 second. 225 AoE
Level 2 - Stuns for 2 seconds. 275 AoE
Level 3 - Stuns for 3 seconds. 325 AoE
Level 4 - Stuns for 4 seconds. 375 AoE
it has no damage since it has a heavy stun.
Mana Cost: 120/130/140/150
Cooldown: 15/13/12/10

Framework: Cid slams his hammer to the ground.

Adrenaline Rush (E)
Cid increases his attack speed to beat his enemies to pulp.
Level 1 - +20% attack speed, +3% MS, lasts 10 seconds
Level 2 - +30% attack speed, +6% MS, lasts 15 seconds
Level 3 - +40% attack speed, +9% MS, lasts 20 seconds
Level 4 - +50% attack speed, +12% MS, lasts 25 seconds
Can be purged.
Mana Cost: 100/120/140/160
Cooldown: 60/60/60/60

Framework: You have a yellowish aura on you.

Notes: great for pushing, and pretty strong at all levels.

Fatal bash (F)
Sometimes, Cid hits a severely wounded part of the body, dealing extra damage.
Level 1 - 10% chance to deal 20 extra damage and 0.01 second stun.
Level 2 - 20% chance to deal 40 extra damage and 0.01 second stun.
Level 3 - 30% chance to deal 55 extra damage and 0.01 second stun.
Level 4 - 40% chance to deal 70 extra damage and 0.01 second stun.
Great for taking out INT types with channeling spells, even sand king!
Mana Cost: N/A
Cooldown: N/A

Item Forge (R)
Cid takes a look at a hero's items. Once he looks at it, he will think how to forge it and make a duplicate of it. Once you are near a hero (ally or enemy) and you took 5 seconds in 600AoE and used this skill, you will randomly forge one of the items in a hero's inventory. Cannot be dropped, cannot be sold. Item destroyed in 60 seconds.
Level 1 - 40% chance to duplicate item
Level 2 - 55% chance to duplicate item
Level 3 - 70% chance to duplicate item
If there are several heroes, the one nearest will be the hero which items' will be duplicated. There is also a chance that Cid will not duplicate the item.
Mana Cost: 200/250/350
Cooldown: 180/160/140

Framework: An item will appear in your inventory, Cannot be sold cannot be dropped

Notes: You must have spare space in your inventory to activate this skill. Cannot duplicate aegis and recipe scrolls.

Discussion:

Skill Discussion :

1. Repair Hammer Fall - This skill is what makes you valuable to your team.

2. Adrenaline Rush Adrenaline Rush - Increases your DPS and MS which is very needed for hunting heroes.

3. Fatal bash - even if you have this skill, don't bother having bashers since you don't have much attackspeed anyway.

4. Item forge - the skill that defines this hero, every ultimate skill does ^_^. Very lucky for you if you duplicate skadi or divine...

Skill synergies :

Cid hasn't much synergies in his skills, but the skills sure are useful by themselves!

Item Builds :

DPS build -

Pure damage build -

Did you notice that there's always a spare space for each build? so you can duplicate as long as you can.. Orb effects aren't suggested with Cid because if you duplicate an item that has an orb effect.

Skill builds -

It all differs if you go battle or support type, here goes -

Support type

Repair - 1, 3, 5, 7

Stats - 2, 4, 8, 10, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25

Hover - 17, 18, 19, 20

Fatal Bash - 12, 13, 14, 15

Item Forge - 6, 11, 16

You could also change stats at the start for fatal bash if your opponents have channeling spells.

Killer type A

Repair - 22, 23, 24, 25

Hover - 2, 4, 8, 9

Fatal Bash - 1, 3, 5, 7

Item Forge - 6, 11, 16

Stats - 10, 12-15, 17-21

Killer type B

Repair - 22-25

Hover - 18-21

Fatal Bash - 1, 3, 5, 7

Item Forge - 6, 11, 16

Stats - 2, 4, 8, 9, 10, 12-15, 17

Best allies -

People with slows, disables, and stuns, but not permabashers since they'll steal your kill..

Syllabear - The Lone Druid Rylai Crestfall - The Crystal Maiden Slithice - The Naga Siren Pudge - The Butcher Leviathan - The Tidehunter Raigor Stonehoof - The Earthshaker Furion - The Prophet Rexxar - The Beastmaster Shendelzare Silkwood - The Vengeful Spirit Rooftrellen - The Treant Protector Purist Thunderwrath - The Omniknight Mangix - The Pandaren Battlemaster Medusa - The Gorgon Rhasta - The Shadow Shaman Rigwarl - The Bristleback King Leoric - The Skeleton King Traxex - The Drow Ranger Lion - The Demon Witch Magnus - The Magnataur Barathrum - The Spiritbreaker Crixalis - The Sand King Meepo - Geomancer Demnok Lannik - Warlock Vol`Jin - The Witch Doctor

Guinsoo`s Scythe of Vyse Eye of Skadi Stygian Desolator Eul`s Scepter of Divinity Diffusal Blade Mask of Madness

Beware!

Magina - The Anti-Mage

Thank you for reaching my hero idea! this is my 3rd! if my 2nd is approved!

Changelog:

2007-04-17: • Fully changed Repair and Hover, nerfed fatal bash, changed stat gains, increased base attack speed, added 2 words to the story... etc. etc. changed some of the hero discussion part.

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1 By `UnholY` 2007-04-17

my latest hero idea 1st post to my own hero idea

2 By bau_HARRY 2007-04-17

uh... first of all congratulations on having your hero approved.! (i still can't understand the hero builder) anywiez, is it allowed to repair a tower.? there was this other hero idea that sugested to repair towers was a big no-no.?
i think hes a good hero., and a good ulti skill too., you can have an ally intenionaly place just 1 item in his inventory so its sure that it will duplicate that item...
uh... 6.8/10

3 By TOPAK™ 2007-04-17

Not bad... I suggest to lower the mana cost of Hover to 160.

Will rate after more comments.

4 By Ricko 2007-04-17

Not a bad idea, just hope there's no copyright infringements with FF, that would be a pity. The only thing i could think of is the ulti being a bit weak. Youonly have a 40% chance of copying a item and if your opponent only has one good item and all the other items are say ironwood branches, then you have less than a 7% chance of getting a decent item (6.66%) and if you get it to level 3, then it would be more chance of getting a decent item. Thats te only problem i could think of, and prehaps add a cost limit, say, a chance to copy the most expensive item in their inventory. Otherwise great, and unequalled with his repairing (that might be unallowed tho)

5 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-17

Building repair AND item based... ugh. I really don't like those... no good skill synergies either. Hover cost and cooldown should be different with level - cooldown decreased, maybe manacost increased per level to 160/180 or so, 200 is a bit too high. I'm gonna rate after more comments, but this doesn't look too great to me...
Oh, and Sephiroth would own Cid. Why bother trying hehee... someone should make a Sephiroth Hero Idea, I would but I dunno all his skills, haven't seen all the FF stuff.

6 By VikiFanatic 2007-04-17

Well, I've always thought that any way to repair towers is already a no-no... but i really like this idea. too bad, repairer heroes really can't exist... :(

7 By Black Angel 2007-04-17

OK man Dota=Defense of the ANCIENTS that means that you cannot make a hero looking like a gangster bike rider of year 2000!That was your first D*ck move.
REPAIR cannot be a hero skill as they have already removed the Regen of the towers cause the game was a little unfair and too much time taking.
HOVER needs anothere skill maybe the channel-screw thing.
Channeling screwer is a little IMBA.
ULTI is too WEAK!Remove the chance thing or maybe change your ULTI.
I thing you have copied a bit from yukinos idea ARMI...BUT u just took a clue from him..
Overrall:This thing needs a complete change especially the HERO ICON!

8 By `UnholY` 2007-04-17

actually i already have a cloud hero idea, which is waiting approval . yup i'm planning to make sephiroth! go final fantasy! then i'll even make sora from kingdom hearts! rock on ps2 games!!

9 By `UnholY` 2007-04-17

sorry for double post but, i'm gonna put my replies to you in this post

@bau_HARRY
yes it is allowed to repair a tower, otherwise, it's useless. about the other hero idea you said that repaired towers? well, this one is a channeling one and you can be stunned and bye repair..

@Ricko
if Cid's ulti only copies the most expensive item in the hero's inventory, it would be imba... imagine a free EoS in your inventory, or butterfly.

@TOPAK™
i WILL change the skills effects either nerf/buff after several comments

@Shimrra_3
don't worry someday when i think about the skills i'll make one! also my Cloud Strife hero idea, wait for it to be approved, it's already done.

@Black Angel
at the 1st place i didn'd even know yukino had a hero idea with a skill like that, fine then i'll change my ulti soon. yes i know that he's "updated" to present, but, it's only an idea, and i don't care if this hero idea gets into dota or not, which is quite impossible, less flaming in my hero idea plz, say it in a respective way

@VikiFanatic
would you want me to change the 1st skill? and make him a battle Cid?

10 By Eustace2 2007-04-17

Good hero idea though..

11 By yukino_silvermaine 2007-04-17

No.. Repairs.. Please..

12 By nemanja13 2007-04-17

13 By VikiFanatic 2007-04-17

Yes. A battle Cid would be nice. ^^

14 By Farmstalker 2007-04-17

I like Fatal Bash...
But I agree there shouldn't be any repair type skills.

15 By Black Angel 2007-04-17

@Unholy:man u gotta now i dont wannt to flame hero ideas i was just talking street language today ;P.1 more:Fatal bash shouldnt have bonus damage so that it would be balanced.

16 By Bruno_89 2007-04-17

hmmm... bad

17 By nthomas5143 2007-04-17

CHANGE REPAIR. it completely wrecks any game balance. Everything else with this hero is nice, but the repair cant not be a possible ability. 6/10

18 By Firesky 2007-04-17

repair *cough cant happen completely imbalances game cough* at first duplicate looked imbalanced but i guess its ok but what if u duplicate tangos lmao hover should be an ultimate its's too strong and ftal bash is a jacked up version of barathrums greater bash he needs alot of work the tank's gotta go repair cant be in the game, duplicate is ok. idk hes not tht good he needs reworking

19 By `UnholY` 2007-04-17

@all
ok, i'm gonna find new skills, you can suggest if you want!
Changes to be made
1. completely change repair
2. nerf fatal bash
3. lower int gain, increase agi gain(because i'll turn him battle type)
4. change hover(in a way that he'll still be melee)

20 By `UnholY` 2007-04-17

oh, and others don't rate yet, rate after i changed it! thx

21 By killer_bakekang 2007-04-18

his first skill is useless against pushing and hero killing if there is no damage
and i know who you get that idea unholy or i should say mark

22 By `UnholY` 2007-04-19

ahem... the 1st skill gives a 4 sec stun, 4 seconds is enough to whack the enemy enough to at least half the opponents HP. or, 1 second more 'till usage of Item forge, as long as it is in cooldown.

23 By Shadowinks 2007-04-19

This is ...hmmmmm....a really unique ulti. However bash types and slam-your-hammer-to-the-ground-and-stun is really outdated.

24 By sprite0153 2007-04-20

ragnarok much?

25 By Shimrra_3 2007-04-20

Wth ragnarok... um. Weeell. I like the Adrenaline Rush... but... I still don't like things like that Ult... just... don't involve items with skills... y'know... and the cooldown on Hammer Fall is too low, I got bruised over having a 3sec stun with 8 sec cd (and then somebody never put my hero back until it was on the next page), 4sec with 10sec is no better. Me no like much...

26 By killengerV 2007-04-20

im not feeling this bringing over "non" origanal heros. dota is original and mostly original heros. only one i can think that isn't kinda "zues"

plus like ricko said copyright infringment.

idk if i like the hero idea either

w/e tell me if oyu feel diff

27 By bleach00 2007-04-20

can't you make the ultimate more weaker?

make it last for only 40 seconds, what if it was an aegis that was duplicated?
can be useful even for only 60 seconds,
WTF!!!

28 By `UnholY` 2007-04-20

@bleach00
can't you see there, cannot duplicate aegis you didn't read it all.

@Shimrra
it isn't spammable because of the mana.
i'll increase the cooldown after more comments.

29 By TraxexDrow 2007-04-23

the ulti not very great

30 By ImmaturekId 2007-04-23

Nice haha but to make the ulti come alive might be tough. But for one thing the Fatal Bash is to imba. Either lower damage to 50 at Level 4 or lower chance to 30%/35% ?

31 By mjs 2007-04-26

It will do

32 By fluffeh tiem 2007-04-26

the abilities are cool and all but...
dont you think you could have been a little more creative and not based off of ff7 crap?

33 By SuiXiDaL 2007-04-26

FF7!

34 By loklok 2007-05-06

35 By geofkools07 2007-05-11

i say it's overpowered.... strength type + attack speed and ms... super strong + item duplicator skill... huh.. so powerful... 3rd skill plus second skill... gosh..! hehe//

36 By 50r4 2007-05-11

Ultimate time is too short.

37 By fwii~ 2007-05-11

I think I can make this in world editor, his ultimate however will be quite tricky to code.

38 By KevinDesano5 2007-05-12

3rd skill is like a MKB >_< ahohoho but nice hero though but i think its imba

39 By dhanvith90 2007-05-14

U R SUCH A NOOB!!!.....
From this i clearly know about one thing!!
u used to play RAGNAROK Coz this hero is based on the Blacksmith char of ragnarok.........
U completely copied the skills AND ADRELENE RUSH!! u didnt even change the name of the skil!!.....

THIS IS NOT GOOD FOOL!!

40 By JOWLYLICIOUS 2007-05-14

Yeah... Cid uses a spear, not a hammer...

41 By archmage1222 2007-05-17

not bad

42 By Dragonia55 2007-07-28

don't you know that Cid use Spear, not Hammer?

43 By lupeman 2007-08-12

No would want to build Divine Rapiers on the other team or super items.

44 By Steamboy 2007-08-16

nice hero combination of FF character and Ragnarok Blacksmith skills but anyway it rocks... maybe u should include the mamonite skill and take out the fatal bash....

45 By evoblade 2007-08-27

mid not bad not bad

46 By Straith 2007-09-04

Ha man this hero's ultimate is MEGA POWERFUL.You can duplicate a basher or something else.Whit those powers you can own.Congratulations for the dude ho designed this hero. Good job man

47 By KrayZspYne 2007-10-01

Hmmm very nice skills i like it not to imba seeing how his ult goes away, and its a random item, even better AND has a 70% at max, pretty nice, i like the stomp too and attack speed is good movment speed should be be reduced to 280 tho, i mean hes a str hero, and with stuns like haha and thats without any items, give him radiance lolz all u need nuff said... o i left off on the speed reduction cuz with BoT or power treds u could easily outrun a bunch of heros early game otherwise VERY NICE!!

48 By TwBboy 2007-10-13

lame

49 By Straith 2007-10-25

its a very nice hero!if your friend has a powerful item you can tell him to drop evryting else and then copy he item

50 By chukdy 2007-10-27

Nice hero! I like the ulti! Its really cool! Its not imba too! BUT, he is asian again and there are no Asians in Azeroth, Lordaeron not even in Kalimdor!

51 By AXCELACCEL 2007-10-30

isn't this cid version is from kingdom hearts right?

52 By Cloudzstrife 2007-12-08

Good idea Just need a bit of balancing because your first skill have 4 second stun that is like after the enemy is not stunned anymore 6 secods later you can stun them again.

53 By original-binsoy 2008-01-02

can you item forge the divine rapier think about it it sounds stupid and imba

54 By Pop_N_Fresh 2008-01-10

Everything is ok, until it comes to this guys ultimate. IMBALANCED

55 By Lilevil 2008-02-23

this isn't anime ars this is the last anime character i will comment to because im tired of this ...