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Daren Skyflame - The Phoenix

Created by Shimrra_3 on 2006-12-22
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When he was a child, his parents were killed by the Lich King's agents, and his younger sister captured. Left for dead, Daren was found by the Sentinel under a pile of burning rumble. A decade of apprenticeship under one of the Sentinel's pyromancers left him a reliable warrior, and an able fighter in the Sentinel's cause. Now Daren will stop at nothing to find his sister, even if it leads to him stand before the Lich King himself.

Flamestrike (F)
Damages enemies in a line.
Level 1 - Does 75 damage to all enemies in a line.
Level 2 - Does 150 damage to all enemies in a line.
Level 3 - Does 225 damage to all enemies in a line.
Level 4 - Does 300 damage to all enemies in a line.
Mana Cost: 80/100/120/140
Cooldown: 10

Framework: Like Shockwave (has same icon in fact) but its a fiery red.

Notes: Daren's nuke ability.

Storm Hammers (H)
Daren hurls Storm Hammers with each attack. Daren's attacks will strike through initial targets and go to those behind. Does 20% damage to units beyond the initial target at all levels.
Level 1 - Hits 2 additional targets.
Level 2 - Hits 3 additional targets.
Level 3 - Hits 4 additional targets.
Level 4 - Hits 5 additional targets.
Mana Cost: Passive
Cooldown: Passive

Framework: Storm Hammers from Human Gryphon Riders, but it stops after said number of targets.

Notes: Daren's Farming skill.

Immolation (T)
Grants a friendly unit Immolation for 20 seconds. Attacking melee units will recieve damage. Gives +2 armor at all levels.
Level 1 - Attackers recieve 5 damage a second for 2 seconds.
Level 2 - Attackers recieve 10 damage a second for 2 seconds.
Level 3 - Attackers recieve 15 damage a second for 2 seconds.
Level 4 - Attackers recieve 20 damage a second for 2 seconds.
This can be Autocast.
Mana Cost: 50
Cooldown: 5

Framework: Demon Hunter's Immolation, Ignite Framework on attackers.

Notes: Isn't this like Lich's Frost Armor...

Phoenix Strike (S)
Daren charges an enemy, accelerating so fast that his body and his mount's merge into a powerful Phoenix. Stuns and damages the target, inflicts knockback on enemies in the way. Range increases with level, stuns for 1.5 seconds at all levels.
Level 1 - 300 damage to target, 50 knockback, 500 range. Stuns target for 1.5 seconds.
Level 2 - 450 damage to target, 75 knockback, 600 range. Stuns target for 1.5 seconds.
Level 3 - 600 damage to target, 100 knockback, 700 range. Stuns target for 1.5 seconds.
Mana Cost: 200/300/400
Cooldown: 80/70/60

Framework: Daren disappears, Dragon Slave framework to target, stun, Daren appears next to target.

Notes: Daren appears next to the target, works like Sand King's Burrowstrike, except units in the way are knockbacked instead of stunned.

Discussion:

Ummm, before I forget, Daren should just have a Dragonhawk sprite.

Skill Synergy:

1. Flamestrike

2. Immolation

3. Flamestrike

4. Immolation

5. Flamestrike

6. Phoenix Strike

7. Flamestrike

8. Immolation

9. Immolation

10. Storm Hammers

11. Phoenix Strike

12. Storm Hammers

13. Storm Hammers

14. Storm Hammers

15. Stats

16. Phoenix Strike

17. -> 25. Stats

Personally, I might actually bulk up stats before getting Storm Hammers, possibly even before early Immolation.

Early Game Item Build:

Bulk your stats. Get 2-4 Wraith Bands and Power Treads. Despite the abilities, Daren should be played like another agility hero. Actually, this reminds me quite a lot of Venomancer. And Veno has trouble casting his Shadowstrike and Poison Nova with the same mana pool at level 7 - so Daren can't nuke and ult easily either. Hence getting extra stats.

Mid Game Item Build:

Mid game is always a chooser. Whatever works best for you I say - Sange&Yasha, Cranium Bashers, rush Eye of Skadi, Mask of Madness. I think Radiance would work fairly well - Immolation on yourself, rush into a creep wave. Or Lothar's Edge -> Phoenix Strike outta nowhere. You could get Blademail to stack up Immolation.

Late Game Item Build:

Again, a chooser. Radiance or Skadi if you didn't get it, Butterfly, Mjollnir would work pretty well with the Immolation. Maybe get Refresher Orb for a double stun, assuming you have that kind of mana pool (no point if you only have 500 mana or something). Swapping Power Treads for BoT would probably be better for late game tactics.

Choice Allies:

Kel`Thuzad - The Lich Rooftrellen - The Treant Protector Bradwarden - The Centaur Warchief

Considering Daren's skills, he would be perfectly fine on his own, but if allies were required, ones with similar abilities to Immolation would be swell. For instance, Lich and Treant Protector. Immolation + Frost Armor + Living Armor. Anyone with those three has +20 armor, increased regen, and attackers get slowed and get 40 damage. Oh, and put them on, say, Bradwarden. Brad himself is the perfect combo for Daren. Immolation on Brad means anyone who attacks Brad receives 100 damage. Pretty cool.

Mogul Khan - The Axe

What would be cool is to stack the various armors on Axe. Immolation -> Berserkers' Call -> Counter Helix -> dead creeps & heroes :) although admittably it would be mostly the Helix.

Shendelzare Silkwood - The Vengeful Spirit Zeus - Lord of Olympia Sven - The Rogueknight Aggron Stonebreaker - The Ogre Magi Mirana Nightshade - Priestess of the Moon Kel`Thuzad - The Lich Krobelus - The Death Prophet

Also useful would be other easy nuker/stunners - Vengeful Spirit, Zeus, Sven, Ogre Magi, Priestess of the Moon, Lich, Death Prophet - anyone who could stack their nukes with Daren's.

Enemies:

Sven - The Rogueknight Raigor Stonehoof - The Earthshaker King Leoric - The Skeleton King Rooftrellen - The Treant Protector

Tanks - Anyone who can survive a nuke assault on them and hit you back harder, including stunners. Earthshaker would be very bad for you; if you just ulted him, he can stun you how many times with impunity

Anub`arak - The Nerubian Assassin Bone Clinkz - The Bone Fletcher Rikimaru - The Stealth Assassin Azwraith - The Phantom Lancer Rooftrellen - The Treant Protector

Wind Walkers - you hit or stun them and all they have to do is vanish. Particularly Stealth Assassin. Phantom Lancer is worse, because you can't pick a target for Phoenix Strike, and he can WW if you get the right one.

Lina Inverse - The Slayer Rhasta - The Shadow Shaman Leshrac - The Tormented Soul Lion - The Demon Witch Leviathan - The Tidehunter Pudge - The Butcher

Nukers/Disablers - If you try and hit any of these guys, you are outgunned. Slayer, Rhasta, Leshrac, Lion, Leviathan and Pudge - as soon as you ult any of them, they will hit you with their full arsenal.

Yurnero - The Juggernaut

Juggernaut - Phoenix Strike on Juggernaut means you hit him and are suddenly away from all your creeps. So he can Omnislash you without your meat shields.

Squee and Spleen - The Goblin Techies

Techies - do I have to explain Techies? Fine; if you ult Techies, the first thing he going to do is blow himself up, and theres a good chance he'll take you with him. Oh, and he might've set Remote Mines all over himself too. Just stay clear of Techies, maybe harass him with Flamestrike.

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1 By Shadowinks 2006-12-22

Not a very good hero......skills not exactly very original. 4/10. No bad feelings!

2 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-22

sry 2 say but alot of it is just cliched or being used waaaay 2 much. i can spot a few. but its still a pretty good hero and we already nerfed everything overpowered, but we may need 2 find some good item synergies.

3 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-22

i mean some really serious synergies

4 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-22

also u can see that u arent really sure what 2 get, there r 2 many options, and yeah i know its hard trying to work out how 2 play a hero if he hasnt been made yet.

5 By Shimrra_3 2006-12-22

http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/mad.gif
Mad My own brother is critizing my guy?

6 By Shimrra_3 2006-12-22

http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/mad.gif
Mad My own brother is critizing my guy?

7 By Shimrra_3 2006-12-22

http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/mad.gif
Mad My own brother is critizing my guy?

8 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-22

just some facts but... sry 2 tell u, bounce cant have orb effects, storm hammers=bounce lunas glaive=bounce so ur gonna have 2 change some stuff, sry i only just realised that

9 By Shimrra_3 2006-12-22

http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/mad.gif
Mad My own brother is critizing my guy?

10 By Shimrra_3 2006-12-22

Now the thing is multiplying my comment. Oh well, at least I had fun doing this guy.

11 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-22

not criticizing, telling u some things u need 2 change quickly b4 some1 else views this cause im 2 lazy 2 get up and tell u, and seriously i only just realised that storm hammers wont work with orb effects, also u need 2 put in that its bounce.

12 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-22

seriously tho, get 2 work on the storm hammers.

13 By Shimrra_3 2006-12-22

Now the thing is multiplying my comment. Oh well, at least I had fun doing this guy.

14 By fadi 2006-12-22

not bad ........but not so good also!
we need somethin new here

15 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-22

seriously tho, get 2 work on the storm hammers.

16 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-22

6/10 and i thought u knew i make a job to list ALL the cons, not just half of them, because its easier than listing all the pros.

17 By evil_smileyz 2006-12-22

Ang ganda ng story mo!

18 By quickbrownfox 2006-12-23

Flamestrike: Meh. Needs more creativity. Reduce mana cost to 120 at level 4. Storm Hammers: If it does cause similar problems to luna's glaives, best to replace it. but if it won't, i guess it's fine. Immolation: Pretty meh as well. Underpowered, stats would be better for defense, and 20 damage is practically nothing late game. Phoenix Strike: Good skill. Gets you in the fray quickly to finish off the opponent. Lower mana costs to 175/265/355. Stats: Above average stat gains, Fast base attack speed. Verdict: 4/10. Lacking in creativity makes hero less fun.

19 By Shimrra_3 2006-12-23

I think the Storm Hammers would just work like the Human Gryphon Rider ones. I don't think thats a big problem. Not sure about the ult mana cost.

20 By Shimrra_3 2006-12-23

I think this duplication happens when you refresh after posting a comment. Someone should post a warning

21 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-23

seriously tho, get 2 work on the storm hammers.

22 By drew 2006-12-25

@War_Wrecker: You don't need to refresh the page to see your new comment.

23 By War_Wrecker 2006-12-25

i dont refresh 2 see my comment, i refresh 2 put up the number of viewings

24 By MIKITHEKING 2006-12-28

it's good hero

25 By Shimrra_3 2007-01-04

Guys, my friend pointed out this horrific flaw. My story say Daren was found under a pike of burning RUMBLE. I am soooooo soooooooo sorry. Someone kill me. Now. In my sleep.

26 By Shimrra_3 2007-01-04

pile* of burning rubble. omg...

27 By ncc1701 2007-01-08

Bah Seen sooo many times.

28 By Shimrra_3 2007-01-09

@ ncc1701 oh come on.

29 By buckbrother 2007-01-11

well this guy seems like a nice hero

30 By Shimrra_3 2007-01-11

Okay okay, I admit I didn't put a huge amount of thought into this. Except the ult. The ult rules. But my other two heroes are much better. If only they got posted, I swear its been weeks.

31 By Black Angel 2007-01-15

The whole hero has not much creativity
1st skill is classic
2nd skill is like luna's
3rd skill an immolation which does nothing on ranged heroes and +2 armor isnt satisfying.
Ulti is good i think.

32 By Shimrra_3 2007-01-16

@ Black Angel, thats basically what I thought in the end. I hadn't practiced, my other two heroes are much better. If only they would get posted do-I-have-to-say-it-again?

33 By theodoric 2007-09-18

W T F i hate this B I T C H

34 By Shimrra_3 2007-09-20

Clinic is that way dumbass.

35 By AXCELACCEL 2007-11-27

a little dull but good hero

36 By suckermiller 2008-02-04

i agree with the most in here, not very creatice, except the ulti
1.: skill: like lunas/magantaurs
2.: skill: like kunas glaives
3.: skill: like dark seers Ion shell, just with armor

work on it!

37 By LocoRoco 2008-07-01

i like ulti but nothing else really grips the imagination

38 By LocoRoco 2008-07-01

immolation only gives 20 dmg, dark seers thingy gives 75 wtf?

39 By folechno 2008-07-29

cool background story

base stats and stat gains are fine, base armor is a little too high though

flame strike is okay

is storm hammer like Luna's glaives or does it travel in a straight line only?
h is the hotkey for hold, need another

immolation is kinda random, seems out of flavor (except for the fact that it's fire), Daren is ranged so this would only be useful on an ally with high ms or on creeps to help farm, suggest replacing it with another ability

40 By folechno 2008-07-29

Phoenix Strike, cool name, need another hotkey, s is for stop, how fast does he accelerate? are units in the way knocked stright back or to the side like Beast Master's Primal Roar? damage and stun is balanced

for skill build, would suggest skipping immolation for stats early game UNLESS you are allied with a hero who can use it (Axe has call, DS has vacuum, surge, and ion shell)

cranium basher? Definitely not
same with blademail
you need to decide on an item build

41 By folechno 2008-07-29

I would recommend
Bracers x2 (for hp early game)
PT (str or agi)
SnY (getting Yasha first for ms to allow for chasing)
Radiance (better chasing, dmg)

for allies, add dark seer since his skills will synergize with immolation, also TS and his aoe skills are good too

your first 3 allies aren't too good, the enemy wil just run, need someone to hold them down or who can run with them

axe is good, they can't run (call) and the immolation/flamestrike will finish off just about any hero

42 By folechno 2008-07-29

the nukers you list don't really benefit much, Daren jsut has another nuke, would much rather see allies with skill synergy

tanks are only enemies early game since you don't have dps

WW are bad but you can still hit them with immolation if you know where they are going, also a gem/wards can easily solve that problem

nukers are good

add Luna for the same reason as Juggs

"do I have to explain Techies?" well you put him on there so yes

you shouldn't be using your ulti to initiate

43 By folechno 2008-07-29

unless the enemy has no easy way to escape/stop you, rather use it as a finisher or the second to last skill (they will be stunned allowing for 1.5 sec to do something)

also forgot, if you keep immolation, increase the dmg/lvl

creative flavor but the abilities are only soso, needs some balancing

I'm guessing you were new when you made this, also you can delete you quad comments since you are st

and lastly, you and your bro are lol

44 By folechno 2008-07-29

forgot to give you a number (I actually need the gold)
5/10