Medaga - Demon Hound

knockback range is very IMBA.

paired with bloodseeker, no one could possibly escape.

sorry for double posting but i have some questions :

1. will traxex w/ auto-casted frost arrows deal 30% more damage to you when you maxed burning blood?

2. will burning spear's damage(huskar) lower with burning blood? how about clinkz's searing arrows?

3. how about dual breath? you will take more damage from the ice breath and less from fire breath?

please explain burning blood more.

This hero is cool but I think level 4 skill is too powerful. With just 1 or 2 second delay, most heroes can't surive (unless they have blink, avatar or some other escape skills) and especially this skill has no mana cost and cool down. I think it should be like skeleton king level 4 skill. Anyway, NICE JOB!!

Wow...his ulti is seriously imba!! That much damage as a passive skill and there's no chance the enemy will even be able to outrun that. The range of the first skill is also a bit too imba, if paired with someone your first skill could be an ulti.
1 question, your ulti's level 4 is by scepter or what?

OMG,the 4 skill is passive,err...can u tell me more about what kind hero that cast fire&ice?

imp u shud add water atts 2, to be buffed in dmg (morph wave form), in other words water/ice based spells. also waiting for your answers to unholy's questions.
i like your skills btw, jst wondering though, your ult in comparison to techies suicide, because that is the cost of casting it (death), maybe it needs a buff despite the calls of imba, cause you will gain no exp for the att, because you are ded. not to mention suicide on techies is not an ult, and nearly deals 3x as much dmg as the lvl 3, early game.

too mutch IMBA

like first skill, second skill wee bit imba, 3rd skill is alright, and ulti should have big cooldown and mana cost

Soul Ram: collection of the Soul shouldn't be under the targets control, it should just be... like, Soul gets rammed out then the target AUTOMATICALLY moves until it collects its Soul. But not THE PLAYER HAS TO. What if it lags or something?

Demonic Charge: Perfect except for the damage - lvl4 does 120 + (6 x 60) = 480!! No way. Lower all of that damage somehow, otherwise, as I said, perfect.

Burning Blood: Original skill, but needs an additional effect because there will be plenty of games where it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Its like "Hmm, fire damage you say... they're all DPS? Come on! Why get this?"

Last Breath: Not quite original (think Suicide) but still a great skill. But... again, damage. lvl3 does 1200 over time. lvl4 does 1400 and shouldn't exist anyway since this doesn't say 'Sceptre' anywhere and shouldn't. A) Reduce damage and/or B) increase delay (5/4/3 perhaps) and/or C) Add a passive mana cost to it (like Leoric's Reincarnate). Add a cooldown regardless of any of the above, at least something like 120/90/60 or higher.

Stats: gains are a bit much but fine; movespeed should be lower - I mean he has a disable AND a movespeed buff AND a base of 320? That can't be right.

Overall, cool. I await changes before rating.

make the ulti be passive when you die you will explode and you can use it as an activatable skill

ahh so its 160/s for 6 secs, hmm that make s more sense, could hav specified, looks like its does a total of 160 over 6 secs *cough* still lower than techies (which isn't an ult i might add), and people complain.

To bad spells are magical and can't be made into "Ice Magic" and stuff. Maybe if you recoded the whole game and chagede alot of stuff that may work. But not likely. I mean shouldn't the heroes here be possible to make. Think you'll need to chage Burning Blood completly. Otherwise he looks fine. Good job.

soul ram + greater bash from SB ZOMG

reduce the range of the souls being knocked to like
100
150
200
250 or something like that

soul ram + greater bash from SB ZOMG

reduce the range of the souls being knocked to like
100
150
200
250 or something like that

IMBA heroe!

@ mangoman
Techies third skill ain't imba because it is balanced out by his abysmal stats. This beast has a good stat gain and high damage, so there should be no reason to give it such a powerful nuke.

Thanks for the comments guys! Appreciate the feedback. Anyway let me answer some questions, Drow's attacks will not do extra damage because of Frost Arrows, since the 3rd skill is made to reduce/add damage to nukes only. Burning Spear won't do less damage either. And about Dual Breath, yeah you take more damage from the ice one and less from the fire one. Only reduces damage on fire nukes, like Lina's first 2 skills, Ogre Magi's Fireblast, Davion's Breathe Fire, also every wave of Pit Lord's Firestorm is affected by the reduction, and increases damage from ice nukes such as Crystal Maiden's 1st, 2nd 4th skills, and Lich's 1st and 4th skills. I do realize how hard it would be to implement Burning Blood into the game itself, so I will most likely completely change it. Just to clarify, his ultimate deals only 100/120/140/160 total damage over time, not per second, that would be way too imba, so even at level 4 it can deal 760 max damage, without reductions. However I will add both a manacost and a cooldown to it and make it active. Also I will take into consideration your ideas and change Soul Ram a little. Also, Demonic Charge can only do 180 total damage per charge, since the damage over time to each charge is 60 total damage, not 60 per second. Thanks again for the feedback guys!

I didn't see any "PETS NOT ALLOWED" sign anywhere the dotA map so i guess Lich KIng may bring his little puppy along with him...
I like the changes that you have made and i believe this is a very interesting hero to use,but there is some kind of problem with your ulti... I mean 600dmg and 40dmg/sec for 5 seconds(Total 800dmg if your enemies don't have any health regeneration items) seems a little weak to me.. Since you all compare his ulti with Techies, i have to say that suicide is Techies 3rd skill(not even his ulti) and deals 1550dmg over an area of effect(omg!!!!)I know everyone is going to say that Techies small stats balance that but hey his other skills are as strong(600dmg,6sec stun,600dmg)he can even get kills when he is dead!!So i say you pump his ulti a bit (not too much), reduce his ms and it wouldn't hurt to lower his stats a bit (so noone will ever use them as an excuse to weaken your skills)
All in all, an excellent hero idea that I would really love to not just stay an idea but come true.... 9/10

Oh much better overall. Very very sick. Nice nice nice nice nice nice nice, 11/10. And I don't give that out. I'll ignore that you've left the huge stat gain and base speed because the rest is so cool.

Excellent! Just excellent! I'm glad you kept in mind all our suggestions and created a wonderful hero to play with!If only he could become a new member to the big dotA family(88 heroes omg!)...

Very VERY good now. Great job:D

i like soul ram and his demonic charge reminds me of the skill i was making for my stegosaurous hero called trample/rampage i like his 3rd skill im not into the SATANIC! theme [plz get rid of the pentagram] but he seems well done and his ulti personnally i like techies suicide but thats just me i think diffusal with 3rd skill and HoD would be great on him.

Very nice now....
I can see how each of the skills works together with the others....
Nice and balanced now, it should be very playable...
A creative idea (and I personally like the demonic parts of it xD) that I believe it deserves a 10/10
Nice job....

Stat changes, good.
Demonic Word is bad. Last Breath was much better. I mean, now its just like a hugely buffed Suicide with gigantic AOE. Activates on death was better. On the other hand, they can just say run like when they see Epicentre coming and you kill yourself for squat. So, I dunno.

Very nice!
Your first skill is very creative, man!

10.5/10!

nicely done....I salute you

what version is this?

demonic word kinda like jakiro's ultimate macropyre????? huh???

This char is too IMBA! Too many regenerations will make the char seriously like godlike!!

This char is too IMBA! Too many regenerations will make the char seriously like godlike!!

Hey guys! Thanks for the feedback, I will try to take your ideas into consideration. Anyway I have yet to decide if his ultimate is going to be passive or not, I need you guys to vote on that

Nice one lots of originality 9/10

OK..
Very well, my vote goes for the passive ulti....
Anyone agrees? xD

Demonic word: to be active or not to be?

Well,let's check all the possible cases:
1)It remains as it is,active and suicidal...good
2)If it becames passive and activates whenever you die then too imba!The enemy that kills you or the enemies that gang you die!!One benefit is that it isn't suicidal anymore making it less imba but giving only blinkers and ranged heroes(600 range,all they need is a pair of boots) a chance to escape seems unfair.Beind passive means=no mana cost so... bad!!
3)Being passive but with mana cost like skeleton king's ulti is pretty fair.
4)Make it an activatable passive just like abaddon's ulti with no mana cost that activates on its own when you are below 400 life.This is a very questionable solution, though it might seem imba at first,it takes your opponents out of the uncomfortable solution of having to take you out completely all they have to do is make you reach 399hp (if you choose to set 400hp to be the limit) which gives nukers an easier time killing you, balances your high stats AND works well with all that regeneration that you have going on making the user to buy lots of STR and regeneration items making this hero a well-balanced one!But there is a catch...if you choose this case then that means that they never kill you because you always commit suicide!So i suggest either lowering the range or make the delay higher for this one.
That's all that i have to say i will wait for the others to comment and tell their oppinions and only then i will tell you which i think is the best...
Tell us what you think Serathil!

Thanks Undercover13! You have some good ideas there, I might just take them into consideration! Right now it seems ok although yeah, It IS really easy to escape, even at level 3. Making it passive would be imbalanced, or maybe passive with a manacost (like SK's Reincarnation) but it would still be imbalanced. I have a few options here, either to come up with something really innovative for Demonic Word, or maybe even change it completely. Still waiting for more suggestions.

Starting base armor is too much!! You should've reduced it to 2 because your starting HP is high. Your hero is super tanker..

Excellent hero. But ulti way too imba. 200 dmg over 5 seconds=1000 dmg. Then the 800 dmg again. That's a total of 1800 dmg! 3rd skill okay, does the mana drained given to Medaga or it will just be burned?, 2nd skill okay as well and first skill too. Armor too high, change it to 1 or 2 only, cause that's already high for a STR hero.

Faust, the ultimate deals 200 damage over time TOTAL, so during those 5 seconds 200 damage is dealt. I am going to change that to something more easily understandable soon, the armor too, you're right it is kinda high. The mana drained goes to Medaga, and is nothing like the Anti-Mage's Feedback. The mana drained won't deal damage to the enemy. Soon as I come back from work I'll make some changes.

Saying '40 damage per second for five seconds' always makes more sense. Um, I suggest you bring back the previous version of the ultimate, Last Breath. There wasn't too much wrong with that - activates on death, requires mana, delayed activation, then initial blast and damage over time.

I dont like the ulti..The other skills are pretty impressive but a suicide ulti is no good..Its like Techies 3rd skill but has more AoE and less damage..
I would say when he uses this,an amount of life like 70%,80%,90% per level would be lost.

seems really great and skills seem a little overpowered, but maybe i just have a confused understanding, hope he makes it in the game though, would love to use him

Wicked sick. it's way 2 strong.

For the peoplw saying hi ulti i too strong. Just use bloodseeker and his ulti will be wasted. Or use poisons or maledict so you wont get affected or drain his mana

too strong, a very good hero!no one can't escape on his Ulti

i'll combo this hero with rooftrellen, so he can overgrowth and i will use my ultimate

nice one, dude,, like it very much!

Do not usE BKB if it is UnneceSsary, cause it is useless for a int type..hehe ^_^

omg it's too imba guyz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LIKE IT! Very good, Very good!
Amazing Synergy, but i think you should make his 3rd skill an orb cause its too IMBA if he gets manta!

Love the idea. Possibly too imba.
But w.e. His second skill makes him too cool for me to care
9.5/10

Thanks all for the feedback, however, please elaborate on why and how you think it is imbalanced. Just saying it is won't give me enough information to change anything. Thanks!

Awesome synergy dude.. not too imba in my opinion as it is a very different type of hero as compared to the ones currently being played and would definitely take some gettin use to..great work...

Honestly, the ult doesnt seem much of a benefit for dmarem, or anything.

you should make it more like the Bounty Hunter, or The Phantom Lancer, and add another thing, because what if ur on a killing spree, u dont want to use the ult!

Oh my bad, just to clear some things up, the ultimate is a passive. So it is somewhat like Leoric's ultimate, if you have enough mana and it's not on cooldown it will trigger. If not then tough luck. That's why it's a good idea to burn Medaga's mana, will render him pretty helpless lol. My original idea for his ultimate would have been an evolve type ability, like it will make you a little bigger, faster, give you hp and improve your abilities every time you put a point into it. But then I thought it was too similar to Tiny's ultimate so I used this instead. Anyway thanks for the feedback and keep it coming!

Funny inspiration great hero gj.

From wat i can see this hero aint too imba at all, ther are pros and cons and the ulti can b avoided with mana burns, blinks, ranged heros, damage spells with range, and when on cd, abd super fast ms eg. ns at night. so it is quite avoidable. and even then the damage it does is about right, i wudnt nerf it any further. the other skillz are just about right too. no need to make unholy absorbtion an orb effect but u can stop only manta from being useable on hero if it is too imba anyway. this hero seems very fun like puck, plenty of things to play around with etc. not boring at all!! lil things like regaining mana off the range creep is pretty cool, i like this alot!!

em.... can u tell me how to write the change log?

Waaaaay to imba lolz, his skills consist of hp and mp regen plus if he dies he will practiclly rape anyone around him lolz, so he has good hp and steals mp right? if the enemy is fighting u and ur standing still, ya plus if u got radiance lolz and after all that dmg u do IF u die lolz u have last breath? who is this guy? God? lolz jkjkjk

nvm i guess its totally not cheap i didnt see the cd part hahahaha my bad

Not bad, i liked soul ram becuase it was a powerful attack and the style was nice. So i'm guessing it is similar to Charge of Darkness right? Demonic Charge also seems pretty nice, not to powerful becuase of the fact that you can't attack during this mode making this hero once again similar to SpiritBreaker with his greaterbash. Two knockbacks, but wouldn't Demonic Charge considered your second stun since people can't move when they are being pushed back (unless you make a new trigger that just pops the person back unlike greaterbash which slides them). (or the dota-men could create a whole new trigger for this skill).

Unholy Absorbtion, the hp regain is at a perfect amount but the mana steal could use a little tweaking. It's pretty fair since it's weaker than Mana break yet still helps by giving you the mana, but since it's not 64/68 mana being stole/burned, the heal works well.

So far the hero is perfectly good, except this last skill...Huge,hugehugehuge WASTE! That's right, i'm saying this skill is absolutely terrible. Why? Let's compare to Suicide Attack Which does around 1.5k damage at level 4 and costs less than 250 mana. And has a much faster cooldown AND can be actived as a way to deny yourself.

Also, when suicide attack is used, there is no casting time (or immensly small casting time) so your opponents can't just, run away for 2 seconds, and come back in. I know everyone said taht it's IMBA but i completely dissagree. People, suicide does over 1000 damage instantly! I know you had lowered damage but i think this skill is much to weak, It takes time to activate, (2 seconds is a very long time), it has a long cooldown, a mana cost (which'll mean nothing late game but early game makes it nearly unusable unless you WANT someone to kill you) and finally, bigger aoe! Make a fanatic explosion doing mass mayhem!

As a ultimate, it should make people almost, scared to kill you, (like last will from necronemicon or shallow grave). If it does 700 damage you won't be able to kill anyone (unless they are past 80% dead). +200 damage from the fire is a nice addition which makes it a powerful attack but think about it this way. You can do it at a maximum (unless you buy back) once every 70 seconds, (with no cooldown) and it does 900 damage max. But you also have to pay 200+ to use it, your stunned/bannished/cycloned for 70 seconds after you use its not a active... I think it's just too weak, so my suggestion is, make the aoe something like 2000, make it a longer activation time, (3-5 seconds) and make it do most damage at cetner (1200, no one will be right ontop of you for this, so they'll most likely be hit for 700-weaker unless you use this as a strategy with any disables), add ministun to stop channeling and most important, no manacost/cooldown.

What's the point of having a ulti when you can only use it once every 200 seconds that makes you die that doesn't do as much damage as another skill that you can activate at anytime with barely any mana cost that does more damage?

waaaaaahhh!!!

every attack drains 25 mana!!!

wow!!!

Hey! I like it! Its awesome! A very fun hero to play with if it comes out! I hope they add your hero man!

The ulti is pretty imba, RAM die BOOM 1-5 hero die TRIPLE KILLLLL

i really like the hero but i dont understand the charge all that much.. what do you mean his attack will turn off??
i really like unholy absorbtion but thats probably cuz im a big fan of mana burn

Alright, just to clarify some things, even at level 3, the ultimate only damages for 900 HP max, then if you count in the armor reduction, spell resistance, etc. the damage is not imba. Lina can deal more damage with her ultimate instantly without dying, and Techies' suicide can be activated, it is instant and deals way more damage, plus it is harder to escape. Any blinker can avoid this ultimate or anyone with a fast ms. This is just meant for heroes that kill you and are left with lets say 500 hp, and still hang around in the area which you died. It also requires you have mana when you die to activate, which honestly you don't have much of. Then the cooldown kicks in.. So IMO it isn't imbalanced at all. Also to clarify his third skill, it only offers some regeneration when standing still ONLY, and when you attack 25 mana is taken from the enemy's mana pool and added to yours.(at level 4) The mana does not combust, like Anti-Mage's skill, and does not deal extra damage. It is completely different from Manta and mana burning skills. Which is why when you buy Manta for him, it will have the basic effect it always has except 25 mana is drained each attack, and does NOT deal extra damage. Even with Manta this skill cannot stand up to Anti-Mage's feedback, so IMO not imbalanced.
@alfienac - This hero is STR based man, always was always will be, not INT.
@fyrepyro - Here's how it works. When you activate it, you become a hero with no normal attack, but you become surrounded in flames. During this time you can manually run around and what ever is in your way gets knocked back (sort of like SB's bash) and receives damage and damage over time. The DOT does NOT stack but is renewed every ram, a certain target can be rammed more then once if the player has enough skill. Also everywhere he runs while this skill is active is blanketed in fire, that deals DPS if you stand in it. So maybe you can run around an opponent ramming him creating a circle of flames around him =P. You also gain extra movement speed during this time to chase or for other purposes.
@Kakisho - Soul Ram is in no way similar to Charge of Darkness. It is cast from melee range and deals some damage based on hp %, and after that some normal damage. The animation is a wisp flying away from the enemy's body when it hits. (To represent part of the "soul" being rammed away? Get it? -_-) So basically this is just a skill that deals more damage the larger the enemy's HP pool is. Now here's the catch. The enemy regains his lost % HP after a period of time. So this skill is mainly useful in ganks, and casting it before you are about to kill someone. It also has a medium stun mainly to avoid channeling spells, etc. So this hero only has ONE way to knockback, which is from Demonic Charge, which yes it does slide them back, not pop up, that would look really bad.. I might change the ultimate a little bit later on, but the only thing that keeps it from being completely underpowered is its large AoE. Because of the AoE you can also take out creep waves when you get killed, meaning you get some of the gold you lose when you die back. Techies' suicide has a pretty small AoE, and it sort of focused on one spot. And yes I was kind of thinking to make the damage either smaller or leave it like this, and add a stun to it, maybe like a 2.5 second one, that would give the team enough time to do their thing.. Anyway thanks for the feedback guys, if you have any questions just post them here, I will do my best to answer them.

very good nice idea and

Really, Really good hero, I love it! On the ultimate though, the Last Breath..that's kind of dumb man..if you fix that then I give this strat a 100%!!

I love it and would like to see it in dota. might have to undergo a few changes after from beta test though.

nice idea

Pretty good, but the ulti could use some work like making it's area effect a little bigger since it is very easy to avoid

Pretty good, but the ulti could use some work like making it's area effect a little bigger since it is very easy to avoid

This hero is great....I think this will be a strong hero soon....

I want this hero in next Dota Allstars next map

Murderou$

Can anybody tell me counter hero of DARK TERROR AND JUGGERNAUT

great char! very original ideas and i like the model idea too cuz we have yet to see that skin used for a char either. I do think though that by givin him mana drain on attack, increased hp while standing still and mana regen on attack should be an orb skill sinceif you dont you will see alot of people spammin manta style and then you got a char that is nearly as nasty as Pantom Lance since now you just get a bfly to go with manta and you are gettin massive attack speed and mana drain with regen in one shot you can easily spam the charges and make sure they cant do anything about it...
otherwise a great char idea and i wouldnt be suprised to see something like it in an upcoming patch

ulti is too freaking imba no matter the time caste the dmg is tooo high

great hero idee dude. i just love it

great hero idee dude. i just love it

small clarification is needed
images do have the passive ability ??
if yes .. then with manta style
two of ur images have ur ulti skill
wont it just gets triggered if they died ?

lol .. for the sake of someone am asking this

good killer ...
thats all...

nice hero his skillz are really for killing if u ask me