Kraig Durnham - The Lost Marine

Excellent...
I really really REALLY like the idea...
Even though the warping into the DotA world may seem strange, the guy's perfect..
I really like the first skill, it enables him to become a farming machine when needed, and a hero killing machine when he doesn't need to farm (Jah'rakal, Terrorblade anyone?)
The second skill is great, but if you want to make it like Kardel's shot, try adding a second or so channeling, and an extra stun time...
The third skill....
Awesome... just awesome... But I would take the regen bonus up, given it's drawback...
You know, with a drawback like that, it would be fine to bring it to +7 or +8 regen, (just compare to Night Stalker please...)
And the ulti, just tops it all... Great way to put in Starcraft into DotA...
Great job, you just got a 10 out of me...

(also, first comment?)

I really like the idea too.His skills are great and unique.I think 2nd skill needs a bit more cooldown around 2-3 more secs and it will be perfect.Everything else is great...EXCELLENT JOB 10/10

Now that I think of it, the ulti is kinda off balanced....
Sure, that 25% lifeloss could be significant, but the insane ASPD and Movespeed gain is too much...
Try to either up the lifeloss, or decrease the gain (120% could be good, as would be 10% movespeed, more would be ownage)

story is mediocre but you made a good hero well balanced and synergized. a mode switch for different styles of play and a passive that will help you recover from the effects of stim pack, he has a nuke and your ulti is good awesome hero (please save us another time warp maybe the battlecruiser got shot down onto azeroth and happened to land in dota and kraig being the sole survivor. vs. him seeing the rockyville horror show and have another futuristic hero do the timewarp again lol.)

i really like this hero. he is gunna have major dps. i would hope to see this in the game. the ultimate is a inventive move but could be a liability with heroes like necro who can heal nuke and his ult just hurts alot he just needs u at little under half hp

I like ur style. bringing in something that is completely different to what dota allready has. THE BLACK SHEEP in the croud.. cool. as to his abilities your hp regen on solar armour should be like 6 at level 4 otherwise it will become a skill people only get from lvl 21 - 25 going for max levels in everything else before even bothering to get it. also this would make him rather weak against nightstalker, which in someways is god because every hero should have a counter.

overall i think u have done a great job on him but the Clips on solar armour and stimpack need to be done up. Good work u have a 10 from me hope he gets made

Awesome
10/10
I just want to mention that Balanar could really make him have a hard time.

Awesome
10/10
I just want to mention that Balanar could really make him have a hard time.

first skill nice luv it

second skill- aneeds s nerf, compare with stormbolt whcih has a lower dmg, same stun time, higher manacost/cooldown. nerf sumthing from this spell or make it jst like stormbolt.

third skill - kinda pointless, dk gets a much beta deal, and his lasts ALL the time. Giv it sum other bonues (beta than dk's caus it only works during the day) or buff the reg.

ult- unsure, seems kinda imba, maybe reduce the duration? 15-20 secs etc?

Overall nice idea, especially the flame thrower. 8/10

AMAZING! Terran rocks. Nice hero you made there man! 10/10

Starcraft heroes? Nice! If there are Tarrasque , Kerrigan , Jim Raynor and other starcraft heroes, it will be great! Warcraft heroes VS Starcraft heroes!!!!

i like it but i think despite what your classmates think your solar armor need to be stronger
the stun needs a slight nerf (-20 damage +3 second cooldown or something)
i like the ulti, its like beserker on mr. troll but you loose life for better movespeed, awesome when mixed with flame thrower and stun. 8/10 until i see the changes/you give me a fantastic reason to keep it as it is.

I pretty much agree with Ghost. Compare Solar Armor to Dragon Blood - same regen, loads of armor, no drawback in Night. Up the regen! Stun is, as hes said, imba with the small cooldown. I'd vote for the same thing he said, -20-30 damage and +3 cooldown.

Umm, the Flamethrower splash thing is fine on its own, but the additional fire Orb effect might be pushing it. It does 30x5 to targets - thats an additional 150 PER HIT? Or does it just ignite the ground like Jakiro's Autofire?

And the ultimate. I think this is actually a tad underpowered. Just compare this to Troll, you only get an extra 30% and 4% than Rampage, and it takes your hp to do so? And it doesn't even synergize with your skills that well, whereas Troll can turn on BASH. Sure Rampage costs mana, but what use does Troll have for mana? I see one avenue of attack to make this just as good as Rampage: the cooldown. This is much worse than Rampage's cooldown. You get 30/100 seconds for this, Rampage you get 30/70. I suggest making this one at least 60, maybe even 50. Consider that you can't spam this easily because of the hp drawback, so it would be fine.

Either fix what I said or give me a good reason not to, and I give you 10/10 because this is quite good already.

storm bolt:
Level 1 - 100 damage.
Level 2 - 150 damage.
Level 3 - 200 damage.
Level 4 - 250 damage.
Mana Cost: 140
Cooldown: 8
atm urs is beta in every aspect, suggested changes wud be good, you wud hav a higher cooldown, but lower manacost.

hmm yes having reread...

firebat does (correct me if wrong) 100% splash (AoE of?) and 22.5 damage(after basic spell resistance) per second for 5 seconds, may i suggest 3 seconds for heroes, 5 for creeps. and reducing the amount of splash to maybe 75%?
if solar armor only goes to 4hp i would also suggest adding an energy store (right click to activate, stores energy for 3 mana per second. left click to activate, releases stored energy, healing self for X(1/1.5/2/3) where X is the number of seconds you built up charge. maximum of 600 (200 seconds of charge) health can be healed this way, you do not gain the passive regeneration while charging)

great i just rewrote the whole skill, meh. i like it, if you don't use it i will.

+ the obvious, energy store only charges energy during the day ^^
600 mana 600 heal lol what a rip

+ the synergy it adds with Stimpack

also a couple of skills (stimpack, solar armor) could use new/beefed up icons ^^

That doesn't sound too bad. I would like that idea.

really nice hero, but here are some facts...
1, why on earth is the AP bullet an explosive bullet? ap just means that its tougher stuff so it punches through armor. AH i got it. totally scrap AP Bullet, i got a better idea! (seriously i do have an idea)
Make it, AP Clip, for the next 10 attacks or 10 seconds or whatever your attacks get bonus damage and they ignore armor, and have a ministun effect.

Oh yah, for the Solar armor...way too weak, maybe make it like....
Marine armor, gives ms boost and armor boost, i mean hes wearing a friggen suit of armor.

overall, this i like.

I think the firebat mode is a bit imba, depending on how big the splash range and the splash % is. Stun is not imba...its actually a bit worse than storm bolt so I have no complaints there. Ult is amazing and pretty balanced. That leaves solar armor, which is a pretty weak sauce skill. It is not a good skill since a single RoH can do the same job, only all the time. How bout giving him something extra like spell/damage reduction?

@varshione
What are you on about, compare the pair.
think before speaking, typing, whatever.

AP Bullet (E)
Level 1 - Deals 120 damage and a 1.0 second stun to one enemy.
Level 2 - Deals 150 damage and a 1.2 second stun to one enemy.
Level 3 - Deals 200 damage and a 1.5 second stun to one enemy.
Level 4 - Deals 280 damage and a 2.0 second stun to one enemy.
Mana Cost: 120
Cooldown: 7

Storm Bolt (T)
A magical hammer is thrown at an enemy unit, causing damage and stunning the target for 2 seconds.
Level 1 - 100 damage.
Level 2 - 150 damage.
Level 3 - 200 damage.
Level 4 - 250 damage.
Mana Cost: 140
Cooldown: 8


on another note. 8hp regen for armor would be fair, what people wouldn't like about it is your ability to overtank early game having the equivalent to 1700 gold in regen items.

what you could do to boost solar armor is give a small aoe immolation during the day time

you might want to put something extra on solar armor, may be chances to miss, you know like radiance??

i think tis hero hard to use..

He's almos like Huskar o_O THIS WOULD MAKE ONE AWESOME HERO! XD But just like Alchemist, he'll rely on his ultimate A LOT to get a kill : Item dependant but still awesome XD

Hes not responding... someone poke him until he explodes or changes things, whichever comes first. Bet he didn't think this would be posted as fast as it was...
War's AP Clip idea also has some merit - more synergy with Stim Packs: you attack 150% percent faster with bonus damage, neat?

hmmm, the idea with ap clip is that, like Impetus it cuts through armor and adds bonus damage, but what you are really interested in is the cuts through armor

oh yes, make it so that stim pack takes 25% at ALL LVLS, i mean at lvl 8 15% of your hp is NOTHING

His 3rd skill is quite underpowered I mean look at dragon's blood. BTW I like the concept.

I agree with the Ulti being a bit underpowered...

And an idea for how he gets into DotA.. black holes are always mysterious enough to warp him

Lol. The old black hole theory. Hehe.

CULLING BLADE!!! RUBOLAVIN!! MR. BABISTA CHEWS ON A PIECE OF WOOD!!

very good hero. balanced with chance to be a powerhouse. I like the range str idea. good stuff. well done, laddie.

ho! nice hero dude. BTW how to make my own hero idea? where do i click? please help me hehehe

just an idea, but for solar armor..it only regens 4 hp a second in daytime..doesnt seem like its worth it..why not make it so he can dodge a little too since its "solar armor"..maybe a 8% chance to dodge at lvl 4?

this hero is graet but i wished that his 3rd skill is abbout 6-8 regen per sec. since it only activates during daytime.. nice work, hope to see this in the game

To all who commented on the buttons for Solar Armor and Stimpack:
I intended to give them the original Starcraft buttons for a nostaligic feel. If I could, I would have made all of the buttons come from Starcraft as well. Its just that I lack a flamethrower button, and a bullet button.

To all who made comments on Solar Armor:
Yeah I saw that coming. I knew 4 HP per second was weak, I just wanted to test the water a bit. I'll take your advice and probably beef it up a bit.

About AP Bullet:
Whoa... I didn't notice the 280, I coulda sworn I made it 240...

About the DPS in the Flamethrower:
Ill take the advice of Ghost for this one.

Everything else seems a-okay. I got mixed results from the Stimpack, but otherwise its okay and other than the DPS effect of the flamethrower, it looks fine and dandy.

Anyway, thank you all for all of the comments and suggestions that you have placed here. I'm planning to make another hero soon...

WOOT congrats on the balancing
using my med kit idea is (naturally) brilliant
you even changed it to make it supportable the the character.
the thing icons is, it is all starcraft or none starcraft, half half just looks out of place.
that is just cosmetic so its a 10 anyway.

this is probably obvious for others.. but for me..why do i only see 4 abilities?

because each hero has 4 abilities and stats.
with exceptions such as morphling who has 2 different abilities for changing str to agi and agi to str and templer assassin who has the trap blowing ability
and techies..
but yes in short
there are always 4 move never less hardly ever more.

awesome hero dude........keep it up

Looks a lot better now, but I think Stimpack could still be buffed a bit more. Sure its 150% and 15% but I just look at Rampage and go 'Rampage wins. Change how?'

much beta, i wud still increase the cost of ap bulltet, cause at lvl 4, u hav sa shorter cooldown (by 1 sec) and 20 less mana in comparison to stormbolt, for only 10 less damage, mae the cost be 140, and imo its all good an fair, nice job , really like the armor skill now.

@Ghost
Thanks for the medkit idea. I thought it would really go well with this guy. Also, if I could find other Starcraft Icons, I would use them, but since I can't really find a flamethrower icon, I can't really complete it.

@Shimrra_3
I'm not sure about how to beef up his Stimpack. I'm not even sure if that's the official Starcraft value. Anyway, it's kind of fragile, if I beef it up incorrectly, I might have to change it again. But before I make one more change, how does 200% IAS sound? LOL
@mangoman
Still not enough? All right, I'll change it later...

Nice balancing.

I've thought about it, and realised that Stimpack is actually pretty good. 30 seconds of 150% ASPD is pretty awesome IMO. And now with the medpack ability, you can Stimpack + Heal to get HP back.

Seriously, this hero should be put into DotA. Has a fanbased hero ever made it into DotA?

@Juppy
I think Lanaya was fanbased. I mean she is a "Templar" after all.

Here is another issue I haven't addressed. His story needs work. I have an alternate story, but it would change him completely (Well... At least not make him a "Lost Marine"). His skills are kept, but only his story and hero class would probably be changed.

Here goes:

The war between the Sentinel and Scourge continued on for centuries, even when greater technology was discovered. Near the end of the 23rd century, the Scourge was slowly pushing back the Sentinel into defeat. The Sentinel then discovered, that their current situation was caused due to a certain battle in the past. They intend to change the timeline itself, and cause a time paradox for the greater good of all life itself. They decided to send an elite soldier from their army to the past in order to reverse the battle to their favor. They chose Kraig Durnham to undertake this task, and for the good of all life, he accepted the duty without hesitation. They successfully sent him back to the past for him to complete his mission. It all now depends on his efforts to truly see who would win in the battle between the living and the dead...

I was thinking that the ult was underpowered, but then I looked at the duration and 30 sec seems like a long time.

I did have a question though, why not make him agi instead of str?

Otherwise I liked it alot.

Well, just think of an Agi hero with those insane skills....
Combine the insane aspects of Dragon Knight, Vengeful Spirit, and Jah'rakal, and there you have an approximate feel of the power if this guy were Agi...
Oh, and give him a nice farming orb too...
Too much, leave him to tank please

@ huntercw = read my first comment please. If you can't find it, well, sue me.

Elgene!!! WOOOHOOO!!!!

Don't dis this hero idea!!!

@Shimrra_3
Noted. I'll make the cooldown lower on that one.

@faceless_void
I would appreciate it if you don't say my real name in front of these people...

I think something that has to be fixed is the overly good synergy stim pack - solar armor. Cast your stimpack, then cast a fully charged solar armor = small, if any, hp loss.

Perhaps if they share cooldown, you could get it to work.

Sure Sure

Methinks this will work with the lower cooldown. If anyone complains, just get them to compare it to Rampage.

now this is a truely great heroe get 2 bashers then activate ulti and your having a laugh you could easily kill balanar with this guy which is something ive dreamed of for ages 10/10 from but the 2nd skill needs nerfing reduce damage or stun and he is perfectto

Cool skills man! I'm giving this a 10/10 for really creative skills. The stimpack is cool, and the solar armor (updated) is a new concept.

solar armor has a 1 second cooldown 0 manacost 5 hp heal. can only target self, no casting animation heal.
or a 100 second cooldown 0 manacost 500 hp heal. can only target self, no casting animation heal.

store or use as a pasive.

Wow, a STR type hero with a higher range than Huskar! Nice job, buddy!

The Ultimate is too IMBA.
and also his status.
But it's a good hero's idea.

I would suggest this being an agility hero. If you stack hearts on him...gg...

10/10 just please take my suggestions into consideration...

FOR THE LAST TIME
his ulti is just like Mr. Troll Warlords
but weaker
and costs health, rather than a pissy amount of mana

make him agi and he WILL be imba.

he is ranged and will not easily permabash.
str attacks slowly
he has attack speed slowed by %20 when he uses firebat
they only real way to own with him is..
BoT Skadi Bruiza Divine Divine Satanic

woot ranged orb stacking.
and you can only own once every 100 seconds.
the rest is spent farming.

That's right. Mr. Troll's Rampage + Berserker Rage vs. Stimpack will still win due to the BASH. Even with a higher AS and MS, he will be permabashed into oblivion.

I'm still contemplating on the final skill values that will be put up here. A final post will be made... Sometime soon. Maybe 2 weeks from now. Gotta study for the exams first...

Hmmm, the new AP bullet should have lower duration on the armor loss. Just compare it to Gush or something... Gush has slow, this gets more armor loss than Gush but 10 seconds? Thats perma armor loss. Reduce to 4 or 5 second armor loss. Otherwise its good.

Shimrra_3
you clearly do not know what you are talking about.
he cant support more than 3 of them. thus 30 seconds of -6 armor.
compare shadow fiend
permanent -4 armor plus potential for a further -6 armor and another -5 armor.
and he has an escape mekanism

Lol... buy the same items for this guy. I win.

oh kudos on the update.
without a stun he sucks balls
unless you make him run really really fast.
SnY and BoT is almost a must

@Ghost
What?! You really think he would suck that bad without a stun? I'm changing it back to stun dammit... Besides, I don't want him to buy S&Y ever. That item is one of my least favorite items.

Lol!

i have said it before, and i will say it again, make it 25% hp at all levels of stimpack, seriously, i mean (quotes self)oh yes, make it so that stim pack takes 25% at ALL LVLS, i mean at lvl 8 15% of your hp is NOTHING

holy.....

because you guys have been arguing over how imba his skills is, i dont think any1 really noticed that his atk base is 1.28
HOLY FUCK THATS LOW

INSANELEY GOOD

shiiiiit get a basher by what lvl 12 and then lane with ogre magi, blood lust, PERMABASH IS YOURS, or just stimpack ftw

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD MAAAAAAAAAAAN!! *bursts out of a hydralisk's stomach*

It's rating time!

Firebat Mode: Good farming skill. Could be really annoying to enemy heroes too.

AP Bullet: Nice mini-nuke. The armor rape is awesome and it gives him great synergy with other armor rapers like Nevermore and Slardar. Also, you should add a Cuirass to his build.

Solar Armor: Hmmm. Inventive. Can it be used to heal other heroes?

Stimpack: Hell yea! Bard Man likes this. Good speed boost and a fair sacrifice. Good job!

For a first hero idea, you made a damn good hero. IceFrog, if you're reading this, ADD THIS HERO!

10/10

Very nice, luv the new skill, works much better with ur ult (for insane dps).

Hello???

DotA = Defense of the "ANCIENTS"
not DotM, not modern.

Plus, the moves... I don't think I LIKE them. just my opinion...

not bad..but not that great..his aspd is way too low...lowest aspd in the game..even troll has a higher aspd wen he starts out at lvl 1 lol..plus..his second skill isnt that imba..it's just like templar's meld's damage, not enough mana to spam it anyways..and his ultimate is like troll's ulti except not as good..and troll has fevor aura and his ulti and a higher base aspd and agi based..so..uh..yea..i dunno about this..maybe just fix the aspd?

don't change it back this way all you need to do is creep up behind them and let rip.
or get skadi
either way
i like the new skill as it is

oh btw i think he would be fine since i researched that his ulti adds up with the same as unholy and troll's ulti combined..i guess a maelstrom, mkb, heart, treads, cuirass, and skadi would be the best combo..imo i guess

oh btw i think he would be fine since i researched that his ulti adds up with the same as unholy and troll's ulti combined..i guess a maelstrom, mkb, heart, treads, cuirass, and skadi would be the best combo..imo i guess

Base aspd is faster when its low. Its the cooldown on your attack. So 1.28 is actually very good, when others have 1.45 or worse, ie 1.28 second cooldown before next attack. So in ten seconds, you get at least one more attack with 1.28 than with 1.45. I'm not going to do any calculations, anyone who cares that much feel free though.

Darn... My hero went from 10 to 9.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I think the time on the stimpack should be decreased by 10 seconds and cooldown should be 75 sec. I mean, it is 150% attack speed, basicly 3 hyperstones, it needs a tunedown. Otherwise great, I gave it 10/10 so it would raise up again :D

dam..then he attacks super fast..thats crazy

wait. this is warcraft..

Nooo! It's 9 again!!

Holy mother of... why have I not voted on this yet? 10! STAAAY...
10/10
For sheer ideas alone I would say. Stop changing things...

To all comments about the smaller cooldown on Stimpack, it is not easy to spam 25% of your hp. Besides which it is impossible to have lifesteal and Firebat mode at the same time (granted, turn it off for lifesteal in 1v1 fights, but my point stands).

Ayt... I finished making my second hero, they will be posted soon, so keep your eyes peeled for them. I'm not exactly sure if they will be as grandeur as this guy, but I tried pretty much everything I could to make them powerful but balanced.

Anyway. Thanks to all of the people who gave this a 10 and gave me good suggestions for skills and whatnot.

Hunter, always remember your first hero. Cause no other one will give you the same satisfaction as the first.

toshiki
nice work
or so they say

Good, but you know he has such low mana, if he is going against magina or anub'rak, this hero can't cast a spell. His mana is just too little.

I mean he will have hard time casting the AP bullet.

@Bard Man
I'm just wondering if my next char will be as grandeur as this guy. I'm not going to forget this guy anytime soon.

@Isolated
Sure, but that is one sacrifice you can make. Every other skill requires no mana anyway.

@markey0130
You wanna fight? Just kidding...

once again...its called defense of the ANCIENTS! dont think marines kinda fit in in the medieval scenario.. :-/ ...nice skill ideas though..

neither does tinker fool, homing rockets and lazers DID not exist in ancient times.
come to think of it, why to miranas arrows home?

Jeez... What the hell is wrong about having a futuristic character?! Just cos the game is "Defense of the Ancients" doesn't mean that people from the future wouldn't want to protect those ancients as well. There is no big deal if he was from the future.

^^^^*points at above comment*^^^^
you winsss

I agree with above two comments. See also, nobody has that kind of magic which makes all projectile attacks including arrows and fire and weird green stuff HOME IN ON MOVING AND JUKING TARGETS. Yet that happens. Live with it.

It would really suck if the reason why he's now at 9 is because he's a futuristic character. That is such a lame reason to deny him of the glory that he's due.

I know. Its the same bullshit as applied to Natalya - ZOMFG NOT A D2 CLONE, 0/10 YOU CHEAP COPY - I mean, come on. Check out our arguments for that one (ie, Venomancer).

i like the idea but his ult seems a lil bit overpowered, and his flamoethrower + aoe orb effect/stun doesnt seem posible because dk doesnt get aoe lifesteal if u get him satanic for soeme reason, and cleaving heros like sven doesnt aoe stun with bashers

O man! He's gonna die in battle! you know y? He doesnt have the resources to make weapons!!! And, defense of the ancients is defense of the ANCIENTS! Not by a wannabe hero named...uh...what was his name again?! O anyway, a nice hero idea!

@chukdy
How come Tinker never runs out of resources or ammo? Same principle applies.

@Master_Chilin
His flamethrower isn't a cleave attack. Its a normal attack that hits multiple enemies.

You guys know Bard Man's Seraphim Soldier and Zero Soldier?

They're meant for a future setting too. And they got absolutely none of this flaming. Funny, huh?

The Armor skill is too much. I would first figure out exactly how many seconds are in a dota day and then plan it around that. Mabey make it so that it can fill up twice per day. This wil prevent him from tanking damage and just saving up more hp to recover after the attack. The other skills are great.

@Bard Man
Well your characters may be futuristic, but their skills are more magical than technological.

@J
Balanar's Hunter in the Night skill is a little too much also if you ask me.

I hope he would make it to the game

Nice :)

WHY is nobody noticing the attack speed???
all i can say is that most of the heros with good atk speeds (1.20 or lower) had good excuses.

TB
PotM
AM
Meepo

what do they have in common? no conventional nuke and no conventional disable. (except, meepo, his HI atk speed counteracts his low damage and makes his slow work).

@War_Wrecker
Dude, I get it. I know you have been complaining about it for a while already and I know its really fast. But I don't feel like changing it anytime soon, not because I want it kept that way, its just I got other more important matters to attend to.

@War_Wrecker
Dude, I get it. I know you have been complaining about it for a while already and I know its really fast. But I don't feel like changing it anytime soon, not because I want it kept that way, its just I got other more important matters to attend to.

lol go you, a fast attacking str hero is awesomely random
ORIGINAL even

i dun understand, y must compare to storm bolt? he has no god str or rencarnation.y dun compare it wif tinkers laser?

Lol, the venomancer on the scourge and him on the ancients side(he is, right??), like some rival match or sumthing.. anyway, this idea is really great , a medic,marine, and firebat all in one? Rofl, they should've made a char like that in starcraft as a hero too.

This hero looks pretty cool I like all the skills and effects and he could also be a good farmer. But I don't really like the ulti idea in my opinion i mean like why don't you just get Mask of Madness plus it has 17% life steal so I would suggest like he would fire a Rocket Launcher and it would like have an AoE Effect. Like 250 Damage, All units in AoE Range will continue taking damage because of burns. 10 Damaga for 50 seconds that would be pretty awesome. That was just for LVL.1 Ulti
Nice JOb

@chino9783
Well, Terran Marines don't use rocket launchers, and they are more famous for their Stimpacks.

Stimpack yeah but wouldn't it be kinda cooler to use a rocket launcher?? Like the Goliaths you know? Anyway that was just my opinion. And um what rule will this guy be in DotA? Will he be a tanker, a nuker, a etc. huntercw

he is a pushing tank.

i like him especially the ulti

mmm nice hero, but all i can say is that ap bullet is unrealistic, i mean lets see, you stop, pop out your clip, open it up, take out the first bullet, put in an ap bullet, reseal the clip, load it up, fire!
no, more likely you just pop the clip and load a clip FULL of ap bullets

shut up war.
mirana pulls arrows out of her ass, maybe he has another gun that fires a single ap bullet shoved up his? mirana never runs out of ammo, he recovers his ap ammo aver time as well.

the hp is a big sacrifice.

An idea for making the icons all from starcraft; just use the train firebat icon when switching to firebat mode and the train marine icon when going back to normal.

I don't know personally if it is possible to have the skill icons change like that in the game, but if they can that would be really cool.

By the way, I really like the character and would love to see him in DotA, Great Work!!

I like it, not too Imba and not to weak. I love the idea of finally having another hero other than night stalker use the day/night mechanic. Nice idea's

excellent hero,i do want it in dota!

Woot!
Great job indeed... I was wishing there was a marine hero idea. I dont really like the first skill when against heroes, but using it he can farm like hell. I love the second skill, reducing enemy's armor. The third skill is interesting, using charged solar cells to heal himself. But the fourth skill is a little bit imba... 150% attacking speed. Imagine using it with your normal attack with eye of skadi and satanic... OWNAGE. 9/10

does this guy even exist in the dota 6.49 version?
i never saw this hero before in warcraft or in dota, but i saw him only in starcraft. if any 1 of you can, can u tell me which map in warcraft this guy comes out in? Jim rayner is in D-day. but this guy ... i donno

Cool it would be nice if they did make him into a cahr
ALSO Lesale can be a Hydra cuz the Zerg was a experiment gone wrong by the protoss i think

NICE!

I think i Like it
I vote for ya Hero
Dang! Nice Skills

awesome hero idea. i know i would play him a lot and who knows maybe a starcraft seige tank will crash into the world of dota
fingers crosseed

nice idea, really like ulti

question about item build..if his firebat-mode is an orb effect..then wouldn't it NOT stack with eye and manta?

@ben_kim
Yeah, orbs don't stack. I thought that if you buy items with an orb and your hero has an orb, that item will override the orb attack that the hero already has. Guess I was wrong.

the first ranged str heroes LOL

a Starcraft character
just like the Venomancer

It's a coincidenct that the World of Starcraft is happening at the same time with The world of Warcraft

I would very proud using this Human Hero

A hero from Starcraft...
A strength that is ranged...
I would like to use this hero!!!
Very good!!!

Yeah i think after ur october updates hes a very very very good hero. BUT THIS IS DOTA he dont fit.. this is midevil not futuristic. MY BRAIN CANT COMPREHEND THAT BOW AND ARROW DO SAME AMOUNT OF DAMAGE AS RIFLE AND ARMOR SRY.... but good hero and sounds fun to play... hmmmm.... fun hero vs dota sanity hmmmm

@TheWrathOfGod
Does your mind comprehend how Tinker's Laser is as strong as Mirana's Elune's Arrow? I think the same principle applies here.

please,make this hero available in dota.i like it very much.

This is just plain out fuckin sick. He was the coolest unit in starcraft, and would be awesome in dota.

Wow. That's a lot of people who say that this guy should be in DOTA. That just feels great. Thanks ya'll.

Here is a serious question. Was there ever another hero who got this much attention?

This could be a great anti-hero of Balanar

I don't know if this has been asked but are stimpacks' steroids?

sick hero

@Neoseeka

Yes they are steroids. Sorta. Basically, it is a stimulant/painkiller/steroids. A combination of this would make you feel happy inside, but it has a terrible side effect. He's a druggy, but knowing Terran Marines, they are mostly nothing more than criminals forced to fight against the infinite hordes of the Zerg.

i think his str and agi gain is too IMBA.... mean like make it lower

I still didn't quite understand the 3rd skill. I didn't read the whole guide my apology.. However, correct me if I'm wrong.. when you active 3rd skill at level 4, You heal yourself 5 hp/sec without any exchange like lost of mana per sec?? or lost of armor per min while in the process of healing???

@mv20vm
Ghost made it simple in one of his posts.

Quote: Ghost 10-17-2007
solar armor has a 1 second cooldown 0 manacost 5 hp heal. can only target self, no casting animation heal.
or a 100 second cooldown 0 manacost 500 hp heal. can only target self, no casting animation heal.

store or use as a pasive.

sweet, i hope it will get in the game too :) 10/10

Frankly I like the hero idea, I love the consistency of the hero too. many of the heroes I see from here have like... 1 or 2 abilities that make no sense what-so-ever.

Additionally... I think he'll do great without the Stun... and reduces armor for him to whelp on the guy for more dmg.

Basically, all the moves make sense, they're well done, and all in all great hero.

10/10

it would be fun find a space marine as a hero i think it should be done

@santo1985
I was actually thinking about doing that. I was going to make a Brother Captain or Librarian of the Blood Angels Chapter.

...hehehe.. i kind a like ur hero idea..but unfortunately, dota is kind a old scholl class, so.....
maybe some will not accept ur hero... but still good work!!!!!

good...
a combination of a firebat, marine and medic(kinda because of its 3rd skill hehe)...
I love your idea... 10 out of 10!!

good...
a combination of a firebat, marine and medic(kinda because of its 3rd skill hehe)...
I love your idea... 10 out of 10!!

....that is fucking amazing....I LOVE STARCRAFT!!!!!!AND EVEN DOTA???!?!?! HOW GOOD CAN THIS GET.....fuck im high as hell

we need really good heroes like this one i give it a 10 out of 10 =)

@ TheWrathOfGod
ffs....
I don't see where the problem is...Hunter made a good background.... it's nice to try something new...and there was no problem with the other two (Zero Soldier and the seraph soldier guy...)

additionally... Sniper is in the fucking game...so is a hydralisk (I know he's venomancer...but still)... this is a great idea...and you taking the background of dota storyline and using against this great idea is aggravating.

if you're gonna flame ideas for not following Dota Story line... flame all the Anime Copycats... there is no way..no matter how badass cloud strife is... that he will be in dota ....at least this guy has a strong chance.

if i was icefrog I'd add him in right away....maybe working on a few more abil score balances...like...[b]while having primary attribute be strength... agility booosts up faster. ??? [/b]


@Neoseeka
Stim packs... according to the starcraft story...is a drug that helps control the adrenaline rush and let you make decisions with a cool head...it additionally helps you by giving you physical enhancments to your speed, reaction, and strength. it is plugged into the cyber thing-a-majig, that reprograms the marines.

although if you want to battle that... they're in a robot suit...that gives them those enhancements anyways =D. but just for clarification

@EndlessWrath
That sure as hell beats my stimpack description lolz. And thanks for defending my char.

Again, just cos he's from the future, he got a 9/10. In my book, or in any [b][u]real[/b][/u] player's book, that is total BS. The effort in making him comes not from where he hails from. It comes from how thought up the character is. By all means, flame him if his stats or skills are imba, but as far as I'm concerned, he is not declared imba by everyone. So if you decide to flame my character just because he is from the future, think about it. Are you really flaming him for what he really is? Will you flame a really well made and thought up character just because he is from the future? Well go ahead. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The thing is, nobody really cares about other people's opinions. They care about FACTS.

Anyway, forget about that. Thanks again to all who gave this character a 10.

Same here idea is brilliant. I don'y uderstand the armor though

@huntercw
your welcome... and this is your first hero?
I'm impressed.

let me know if you put up another


@slayerXX
was put well earlier

you let spell cooldown/wait for however long...
if 1 second...than you heal for 5 hp...
if 10 seconds... you heal for 50 hp
if 100 seconds...you heal for 500 hp
target only yourself... to my understanding you don't have to use increments of 10... i just did so for example.

stim pack and tank... till about to die than heal all of it and keep tanking

IMA HUGE FAN

Great hero idea, Im especially fond of the solar armour, kinda like a rechargeable bottle. The only problem is, stimpack+armour boost = 150% aspd without any health loss. The first skill may become taboo after mid game because his aspd would be enough to clear creep waves and you'd want the range in case you get attacked. Otherwise VERY intuitive hero. I can't wait to play with him.

Very nice hero... Like the idea of a starcraft based hero in dota. Good job. 10/10

i think hw will be hard to use

excellent hero

hmm i was thinking...if i refresher orb the ultimate and use it again, will i get 300% attack speed inc? holy sh*t...!!

hmm i was thinking...if i refresher orb the ultimate and use it again, will i get 300% attack speed inc? holy sh*t...!!

@spaghettiandmeatball
The skill wont stack. Heck no buffs stack if you cast them twice. Besides, you'll cut off 50% of your health. Buying a refresher orb is just out of the question...

wow if this hero was put in i would definetly play as him...great job

yea...hez different bt his skill need real practice
BT nice 2 c a change

I agree this hero would be fun to play.

definitely see the possibility of him getting put into dota...as long as icefrog sees this. *hoping*

as for my input...ridiculous aspd and dmg boosting items... add in Buriza? what do you havE?...a lot of dead stuff
This hero (as many should see if they haven't) may get 150% faster aspd bonus...but it's reduced for balance by the first ability... (just keep that in mind!)

I forgot to rate ...silly me....

first hero I've given a 10/10 for... GJ!

ur hero rocks!

Nice Hero i give it 10/10 best 1 yet.
huntercw
The war between the Sentinel and Scourge continued on for centuries, even when greater technology was discovered. Near the end of the 23rd century, the Scourge was slowly pushing back the Sentinel into defeat. The Sentinel then discovered, that their current situation was caused due to a certain battle in the past. They intend to change the timeline itself, and cause a time paradox for the greater good of all life itself. They decided to send an elite soldier from their army to the past in order to reverse the battle to their favor. They chose Kraig Durnham to undertake this task, and for the good of all life, he accepted the duty without hesitation. They successfully sent him back to the past for him to complete his mission. It all now depends on his efforts to truly see who would win in the battle between the living and the dead...

Theres 1 problem with that story i think the tree of life and the tree of life would of been destroyed from global warming lol

i mean frozen throne

i really like the idea now all we need is protoss

10/10

Awsome hero!
Nice skills, cool model.
Could work some on the story, though, but all in all it rocks!
I would very much like to see him in action!

@nate0405

DOTA already has a Protoss hero. Her name is Lanaya the Templar Assassin

It would be great if they actually put up this character. i wanna try using a starcraft character in DOTA lol. and his skills sound crzy. nice work

A good hero i think is good about farming and hero's kill =D thats nice and is from my favorite SC Race TERRAN!

very nice! all that i have to say is that the AP Bullet cooldown should be longer, cause right now, it basically means that the enemy has -6 armor forever lol. id suggest and extra 2~3 seconds for the cooldown

but overall, EXTREMELY fantastic.
if they incorporate this idea into Dota, then there would be a hero to represent every race in StarCraft!

10/10

I would seriously love to see the char in game

Freakin awesome

no offence, but a marine in dota, seems kinda lame...

@Maaads
What makes you say that? Everyone else thinks its okay.

10 / 10

The story behind the character sucked...

the icons look bad.... WAHAHAH!!! lol...

wakoko..this big guy certainly great power eh?? his lyk uskar olways using hp to cast..

The hero makes Lesale worth to be in DotA. Thinking that they are the Starcraft chars to be included in this game. The skills are ok but i wouldn't imagine how the marine does dmg in rifle mode. Remember that marine fires VERY quickly. Just a comment and i hope they add it to sentinels.

love the idea

yeah, 10 out of me too. The story was kinda cheesy though, but it's a great idea

Very interesting, i like him, but stats gain are a little too much. Maybe change str to 2.6 and agi to 2.0 8/10

This Is The Best New Heroe I Can Ever Imagine, After The Venomancer I hope this will be the next new heroe... There are many fans of starcraft , and we will be happy to see another Starcraft unit in Dota

10/10 ofcoures This is the best Idia

:.add a protos char in the game

i dont think this is a good idea its changing the orignal dota this is fantasy not future and modern god! well good idea anyways.

Great idea. very balanced not overpowered looks fun.

@REDD
There already is a Protoss character in DOTA. Look at the previous comments to figure out who.

@jeffrey898
I never intended DOTA to change to a futuristic setting. I just pulled a guy from the future and put him in the past.

this is the best hero idea ive seen yet bet ive only seen lol but out of those is the best 10/10 good job

this is the best hero idea ive seen yet bet ive only seen lol but out of those is the best 10/10 good job

love it but not all the icons

i like him but to but the ulti is only a buff, other thn sumthing that can deal dmg.. or sumkind of special abillity
overall a good hero i rate a an 8

Sexy

Can you say... 200 comments?

LOL I don't know how many times I have thanked you all for paying so much attention to this guy, but I'll do it again. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH DAMMIT!

Anywho... Where's my new hero? I submitted them a long time ago...

i think this is a great idea. Not too sure, but may need balancing. Seems a little weak.

This hero is excellent !so 10/10

wow man , starcraft4life

Love this character....

you should change the icon for the skills but he can push and farm easily with the firebat mode

GREAT!
anyway the movespeed seems too slow,maybe 290 would better.
the ulti also seems too powerful because of the super attackspeed.
i think 125% boost will make it more balance.

anyway it is still a 10/10 for me

GREAT!
anyway the movespeed seems too slow,maybe 290 would better.
the ulti also seems too powerful because of the super attackspeed.
i think 125% boost will make it more balance.

anyway it is still a 10/10 for me

If the Firebat Mode ability is an orb effect, won't it cancel out Eye of Skadi, Satanic and Manta Style effects?

I Loved Starcraft before i played Wc3 :)
And i really liked youre idea :)

This is a great hero
10/10

manta/firebat dont stack

Repeated - Manta + firebat = nono.
Also, the only way I see the range turning into an AoE is by autocasting FireBreath (from DK) as a mini orb effect. which could kill the framerate >.>

Anyhow, I don't think Skadi would make your fire frosty (like old Clinkz). Because all in all, AoE attacks deal damage to 1 target, then spread to next. Skadi always only hits 1 target (that's why luna can't use skadi). So unless you start doing icebreath, firebat won't work with skadi.

Otherwise, awesome! 9/10

this character is great for dota
interesting that it is a str hero thats ranged

i think this dude would b quite a good hero to put in dota..

nd i think its about tym there is a ranged str hero...


PUT THIS DUDE IN DOTA GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow man ur thinking for a new hero rox.... if thiz hero is available i would use it man... thiz guy rox!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is WARcraft not STARcraft.

we need this hero!!!!!!!!!!
it's f*cking awesome!!!

dude.. may i borrow your solar armor idea..i made a hero and your solar armor would go great with my hero