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Chu'sarik - Thorn Lord

Created by lone_destroyer47 on 2007-01-12
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From the murky depths, Chu'sarik served Slardar for years and never failed anything, and has been loyal to him until his soul dies. Chu'sarik killed a powerful giant while he was still a thornling. He can send spikes from the ground, causing his prey to fly in fear and to scream in pain. He can also shoot some of his regenerating spikes to enemies and peircing through their skins. Chu'sarik can absorb skeletons and implant it within him. Only very few has ever made this creature feel pain, while others die in torment.

Impale Strike (R)
The Thorn Lord slams the ground, making a spike hit the target from beneath it. Deals damage & will stun it for 2.15 seconds.
Level 1 - 80 damage.
Level 2 - 155 damage.
Level 3 - 280 damage.
Level 4 - 310 damage.
Type - Single Target damage skill
Cast Range - 600
Impale Range - 600
Mana Cost: 145 mana
Cooldown: 18 seconds

Framework: Impale Framework (effect and buff) but acts like Storm Bolt.

Notes: Primary damage skill

Thorn Fling (F)
The Thorn Lord shoots out thorns in the area, dealing damage and will make the enemies bleed. Bleeding lasts 5 seconds.
Level 1 - 50 damage per thorns, 7 bleed damage, 7% bleed slow.
Level 2 - 100 damage per thorns, 14 bleed damage, 14% bleed slow.
Level 3 - 150 damage per thorns, 21 bleed damage, 21% bleed slow.
Level 4 - 200 damage per thorns, 28 bleed damage, 28% bleed slow.
Type - AoE Radius damage + slow skill (500 AoE radius)
Mana Cost: 75/115/135/155 mana
Cooldown: 30/27/25/20 seconds

Framework: Fan of Knives framework, mini-poison nova effect.

Notes: Chasing skill (slow)

Bone Fusion (N)
For every time the Thorn Lord kills a unit (ally, foe, hero), he gains bonus armor. But once the Thorn Lord dies, he'll lose 1/2 armor bonus. Also gains spell reduction.
Level 1 - 0.0125 bonus armor per ally/foe killed, 0.125 bonus armor per enemy hero killed. Has 10 armor limit and gives 4% spell reduction.
Level 2 - 0.025 bonus armor per ally/foe killed, 0.25 bonus armor per enemy hero killed. Has 20 armor limit and gives 8% spell reduction.
Level 3 - 0.05 bonus armor per ally/foe killed, 0.5 bonus armor per enemy hero killed. Has 30 armor limit and gives 12% spell reduction.
Level 4 - 0.1 bonus armor per ally/foe killed, 1 bonus armor per enemy hero killed. Has 40 armor limit and gives 16% spell reduction.
Acts like necromastery since you'll lose 1/2 of all your bonus armor from this skill.
Mana Cost: N/A
Cooldown: N/A

Framework: Each unit killed will not drop any corpse.

Notes: Limitless version of Necromastery in armor. Made in 11/15/06.

Hell Thorns (S)
The Thorn Lord's body can make attacks bounce back to the attackers, giving him bonus armor and damage return for melee units.
Level 1 - 8 armor bonus. 30% return damage
Level 2 - 12 armor bonus. 45% return damage
Level 3 - 16 armor bonus. 60% return damage
An ultimate version of spiked carpace.
Mana Cost: N/A
Cooldown: N/A

Framework: Spiked Barricade/Spiked Carpace on Chu'sarik

Notes: Stacks with blade mail

Discussion:

Tank Item Build: Boots of Travel 2-3x Blade Mail Heart of Tarrasque Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse Caster Item Build: Boots of Travel Dagon 5 Kelen's Dagger of Escape Suggested Allies: Supportive heroes, Disabler heroes. Feared Enemies: Hex/Polymorph(Voodoo/Guinsoo) heroes, Disablers, Tank heroes. Skill Build: Impale Strike - 2,4,9,12 Thorn Fling - 1,3,5,7 Bone Fusion - 8,13,14,15 Ultimate - 6,11,16 Hero Style: Slow Tank Int hero, relies on armor and can destroy melee heroes easily. Skill Synergy: Thorn Strike - Let your enemies creep away from you as you slowly attack and go for Impale Strike for the finishing blow. Hell Bones - Making Chu'sarik tough is the way to play. Keep on killing heroes and creeps while boosting your armor until you reach 99-100% damage reduction. Any tough melee won't last against this hero unless a hero hexed you.

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1 By vlady 2007-01-13

Stupid ultimate...TO GOOD....

2 By Black Angel 2007-01-13

Move speed is too slow as well as attack speed a bit.Make it 1.7 1st skill is IMBA cause it is a stronger storm bolt with more damage and stun for 145 mana cost.
2nd skill semms a little IMBA too cause it deals a total of 340 damage in all enemies within 500 AOE and also slows.
Ulti is too strong cause its not activatable.B.INT semms a little too much.

3 By death_knight 2007-01-13

Too high armor but good

4 By Shimrra_3 2007-01-13

This is pretty stupid. Its basically Anub'arak with retarded skillz. No thanks.

5 By Black Angel 2007-01-13

Its not right to call it stupid man,chill!It only needs some work.

6 By Demii 2007-01-13

The thing is you havn't really come up with your own ideas, it's more a combination of different heros skills. Bone Fusion seems a bit too good since a creep killer could kill alot then fight a hero to get nice quick armour. Ultima very imba, 60% return damage is like Mortred critical'ing you 600dmg, you returning about 400 plus high armour. Srry - needs bit more thought.

7 By shadowmastermk47 2007-01-13

@ld -> I thought you'll fix this guy? Like nerf all of your skills, but anyways, don't listen to vlady and shimmra. They're pussies anyways. Just remember to nerf your skills and limit bone fusion, and I agree with demii. Nerf the ultimate!!

@shimmra & vlady -> You pussies! You're trying to flame, god damn it!! The man has feelings you know. Damn god hates you people flaming other people.

8 By silent_yet_deadly 2007-01-13

this guy is kinda like anub`arak's child but kinda way more powerful i dunno who is more powerful tho but this is stupid

9 By Black Angel 2007-01-14

@shadowmastermk47 the last part you writed seems like a good idea for a song of eminem.
It makes me remember sing for the moment..
Anyways,@vlady&Shimrra_3 he is right you mustnt post that kind of comments
.If this hero is good if you change his skills.I also would like a few more bugs in dota who's appearance is like the nerubian assasins/weavers.
So,lone_destroyer47 dont be discouraged by that kind of comments.

10 By Shimrra_3 2007-01-14

*sniff* pick on us... plenty of people do this... waaaa... lol idk. Still needs some work.

11 By yukino_silvermaine 2007-01-14

Watch your words people. No comment on the hero.

12 By Creative_PH 2007-01-14

uhmmm no offence but this hero is 100% IMBA and unoriginal the icons too ulti like anub arak 1st skill anubarak and Lion 2nd skill fan of knivs(IMBA cuz of slow)bone fusion (kinda boring) like flesh heap but armor well overall 3/10

13 By silent_yet_deadly 2007-01-14

this guy with blade mail...dunt wanna think bout it .... armor too high dude reduce it a bit

14 By lion_demonwitch 2007-01-15

ur ultimate is to good not fair

15 By Black Angel 2007-01-15

@ lone_destroyer47 you nust use different skill icons also.Makes the hero more interesting i think..

16 By Millennium 2007-01-17

Tooo high armor.Even just bonus armor,not base armor,not stats armor.For example,40 bonus armor from 3.skill and 16 bonus armor from ulti.And if it has 2 blade mails total bonus armor is 66!! And I don't say even his base armor and the armor gained from stats.

17 By jomonoe 2007-01-17

just make it a bit more orginal and tone down the skills. then it should be perfect

18 By alienator_279 2007-01-19

No comment

19 By alienator_279 2007-01-19

If that will be a real hero. I will just use ranged type

20 By Shimrra_3 2007-02-03

Pity nukers and melee heroes. Definitely reduce Bone Fusion and maybe Hell Thorns.

21 By ikaris 2007-02-04

ulti way too good except 4 clinx hed pwn ur ass good

22 By CIA(bug-guy) 2007-02-10

second skill is no more imbalenced then scream of pain. the only think is the ult might need to be nerfed a bit as well as the impale

23 By a*kiichi 2007-02-16

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa sow high armor

24 By evil_smileyz 2007-03-17

It would be better if your first skill would be Impale instead. Then I like your second skill very much but the slow is too much. The ultimate adds too much armor and damage return. It would be more appropriate to put spell reduction and reduce the increase in armor and damage return

25 By Ae]Sprite 2007-03-20

Hmmm, you have to fix the ulti and that impale its so strong man.

26 By Dragonia55 2007-07-28

Waw a tangker hero right?
But what that INT primary suppose to be?
I think is best if the primary is STR.

27 By xholocaustx 2007-08-07

nice creativity,but if you get him hood of defiance or assault armor hell be to imba.

28 By Straith 2007-09-04

This is a PERFECT HERO

29 By AXCELACCEL 2007-11-27

IMBANESS 0/10 oh noway just joking

8/10

30 By barricab 2007-12-19

nc pretty armed and dangerous But the ulti of chu 'sarik is bad

31 By barricab 2007-12-19

nc pretty armed and dangerous But the ulti of chu 'sarik is bad

32 By Encha_owns 2008-06-22

the ultimate is to imba 4 me

33 By folechno 2008-07-31

background started off good but then lost it, continue with the story, why is he fighting?

attack speed of 1.87 is really slow, so is a ms of 265, make aspd lower and increase ms

base str needs to be higher

will impale strike only hit 1 unit? or will it hit all units in the path? maybe have just a single spike come up rather than use the impale animation

either the mana cost needs to be increased or the stun/dmg neesd to be decreased casue impale strike is a little imba right now

34 By folechno 2008-07-31

thorn fling does too much damage for the mana, decrease either the initial damage or take out the damage over time, the slow is cool for flavor reasons

bone fusion is okay, but I can't ever see anyone getting to the max armor from it, suggest taking the limit out completely, also the armor boost won't do much the more armor you get, but that's okay, also 0.0125 is negligable, have the gains be like pudge's flesh heap

hell thorns needs a new hotkey, s is for stop

ulti is just okay

35 By folechno 2008-07-31

it doesn't really do too much, especially for an ulti, compare it to spiked carapace and bristleback, both of which are regular skills

for items, I would only get 1 blademail, situational and the bonus armor from more won't help, BoT are a must due to the low ms, a HoT is good for tanking purposes, then Orchid (you need to be able to kill, just tanking won't do anything)

for skills, I would get
Impale 2/3/5/7
Thorn 4/8/9/10
Bone 1/12/13/14
Hell 6/11/16
the early bone fusion will help

36 By folechno 2008-07-31

get your armor up fast for more survival

good allies, dps heroes since he can disable the enemy hero with 2 skills

enemies, ranged dps heroes, won't return damage and the armor won't stop the massive damage they can give you, also disables

skill synergy not much, other than 2 give you lots of armor

this hero seems more like a tank, which would make more sense as a str hero, the 2 spells which he has, although mana intensive, have long cooldowns so you probably won't cast each more

37 By folechno 2008-07-31

than once, so I suggest remake him into a str hero

also, the ultimate is bland, add the return effect onto bone fusion and come up with a new, cooler, flavorful ultimate

also, get new icons that aren't already being used
4/10

38 By isssma 2008-08-18

TOO imbalanced!!!

39 By InkyFingers 2008-08-23

God character idea.