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1 By LithiumPicnic 2008-01-09 Nice idea, a very original skill. A few issues, the stat gain is on the high side, maybe reduce the int by a little, also seeing as this guy is the fusion nuke/dps hero, maybe reduce the int and str gain and up the agi a bit, i dunno, play with it and see what happens.
2 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-09 only 1st skill and brain surgery is the skill worth getting
3 By SlwaBluPhnx 2008-01-09 1st post yay!
4 By alec1987 2008-01-09 OMG WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GUY THAT CAN WALK THROUGH TRESS HIS SOO GOOD. IS HE COMING BACK. BY THE WAY THIS GUY DOESNT SOUND SO BAD. AND ANOTHER QUESTION WHEN WILL ALL THIS GUYS COME OUT 5 By SlwaBluPhnx 2008-01-09 HEY NO FIRST POST! WTF?
6 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-09 and more
7 By ABC4040 2008-01-09 Actually i think the ulti is useless in someway,manyway,i should say it it almost useless,a player will find it out quite easily....
8 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-09 ultimate is not useless.
9 By Ghost 2008-01-09 Kudos Nova, original hero, but i have seen the ultimate before ( i clicked a bad button in the world editor and now everything i make has things going in reverse reinstall ftw) but even then the one time i did see it, it was a mistake, lacking in synergies as you said but overall quite balanced, a 2 of your skills are quite weak perhaps mana scaple could also steal mana maybe 5/10/15/20 a hit, this makes the ability sustainable removing the need for the buffs others have called for.
10 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-09 the first of "four" is here 11 By Bums17 2008-01-09 i think that this hero would be nice.
12 By kinEtiC 2008-01-09 Great!!i like the skills...so original yet plzz reduce its ms its so fast 13 By ViZiOn 2008-01-09 To be a INT here, he doesent hurt much.. no dmg at all.. maybe inprove bleed out:
14 By Name0 2008-01-09 OP? 15 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-09 @ above = no, see, that would make it imba.
16 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-09 thats 2 out of "four"
17 By KrayZspYne 2008-01-09 anyone that thinks this hero is imbalenced is an idiot.... think about how many buttons u would hav to mash to use skills perfectly ^^, all in all i'd say very good job, nice first skill, second is pretty ok not cheap at all, third skill with cd of 5 seconds might be a liiiittle bit harsh but not bad, and ulti is kinda odd i mean if u click at ur base, like where would u be clicking on the map? hahaha, like is it opposite polar y and x axis or something? 18 By BananRadar 2008-01-09 I agree with most of the guys here, great idea with much originality, but i say: consider some of the suggestions on changing the ultimate... the thought about messing up heroes skills, or maybe even make then backfire and damage themselves (mohahaha)
19 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-09 bleed out should be something like this
20 By XHellspawNX 2008-01-09 REALLY NIIIIIICE!U have beaten me on creating a surgeon hero.All skills are fine however they are a bit weak especially 2nd and 3rd.Add some damage on 3rd and some more hp on the second.
21 By BadgerKW 2008-01-09 first of first, there are only 3 lvls of ultimate..and the ultimate needs i mprovement because as you level it, it costs more mana and i dont think people will still be confused by the time 2 seconds have passed 22 By alec1987 2008-01-09 NovaProspekt wat happened to the guy that can walk through trees 23 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-09 im in the process of trying to edit it but my computer is bein a noob and keeps loading the editing page with errors so imma try and figure this stuff out and ill get back with yous guys as soon as possible 24 By Toro 2008-01-11 amazing skill man 25 By XHellspawNX 2008-01-11 Hey hey man about the ulti,is it single target or area or global? 26 By DragonLord1 2008-01-11 Nice hero original skills.I'd give it a 8 outa ten.Some nice good sounding spells and i believe he could work in dota.Just one question,Always wondered what "Pure Damage" means. 27 By choihyun 2008-01-11 i think the ulti should be different. like:
28 By newclear 2008-01-11 Nice idea, cool skills 29 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-11 Looks even better than before with the changes. Good one. 30 By Bard Man 2008-01-11 To begin with, you typoed a skill name.
31 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-11 im not to worried about the typo ya kno, but bleed out doesnt really need any kinda boost i mean it does 250 damage no matter what. and if i could use the heal on enemies would make him have a nuke and im keeping this guy as a battle mage with no nukes, the manna steal is actually fine because it drains 20 a second and steals 25 its stealing enough to power its self and 5 extra i think that seems pretty fair. 32 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-11 3 of 4
33 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-11 i find surgery to be fine seeing how it heals ur ally for 300 hp cuz thats kinda what it is ment for, but im thinkin about upping the heal or reducing the cool down. bleed is fine its a 250 damage slow that last 10 seconds. its fine i say. 34 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-12 of pure damage i see
35 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-12 ill prolly just take the c/d down cuz hes not omni and not really ment to be a healersupport hes ment to be a battle mage int based damage dealer and hero killer 36 By sigokil 2008-01-12 Ulti is easy to counter but very tricky. The heal kinda weak, compare with purification.
37 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-12 @Sigokil
38 By yoekix 2008-01-12 personaly i dont think bleed out and brain surgery is a good synergies because if you want them to run to you, you want them to come as fast as possible before they know whats wrong, withbleed out they walk slower to you, making time for them to realize.
39 By arnelalmazan 2008-01-12 tangna mo gago!!!tanga k b?lol 40 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-12 well lets see it actually does synergize. because u use ulti FIRST then after they run tward your base u use bleed out and it takes them longer to get back. 41 By Einsatz 2008-01-12 Hey, I think you should improve the 1st and the 3rd skill. The 1st skill is Mana Break + Mana Drain + Empower. way too imbalance. The 3rd skill also too imbalance. 25 % slows and 250 damage. Can kill an enemy if he doesn't have any escape skill 42 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-12 no offence but i think u dont kno what ur talking about. because the first skill is a basic buff with a orb draining mana. mana break is like 64 or 65 mana steal per hit. 25 isnt very high
43 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-12 Mana Scalpel* (I noticed this as well) is balanced. Nobody seems to notice that this is a constant drain, like Electric Rave on Storm, rather than a cost-per-attack autocast skill. That means that if he doesn't attack much while he has this on, he not only wastes his mana but doesn't get to replenish it by stealing it from the target. And he only has 290 movespeed, and, finally, what the hell - hes a caster! Not like Dazzle-type caster with huge damage and imba gains who is, in fact, dps, but more like, say, Dark Seer? With absolutely nothing else that makes him a good attacker? Therefore, him having this skill at all doesn't even fit, so its not imba in the slightest.
44 By KING-MANKIND 2008-01-12 I like the hero.
45 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-12 kk get your comments in on what i should do b4 tomarrow cuz im gunna do some editting tomarrow mainly shortening the c/d on the heal and fixin the typo 46 By cowlickman 2008-01-12 Alright, well everyone's been talking about all the other skills and they're all good and balanced, but I'm here to talk about the ultimate.
47 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-12 well obviously the game is played on a coordinate plane so if u right click 1 spot it will go to the opposite spot on the map weather it be minimap or regular map.
48 By Ghost 2008-01-12 logic here is they then need to start spamming run at enemy base to escape, then it wears off and they do start running at the enemy base.
49 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-12 this ulti can catch even the most seasoned player off guard because if ur in a panic then ur not gunna notice it for the first few seconds and then ull have to think fast. 50 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-12 this ulti can catch even the most seasoned player off guard because if ur in a panic then ur not gunna notice it for the first few seconds and then ull have to think fast. 51 By Bard Man 2008-01-13 Ghost, is Bard Man one of the four? >.> 52 By adikzzz99 2008-01-13 hmm i been thinking of a solution on if your the surgeon and he's chasing you and then you cast ulti on him. maybe if he attacks you while his on ulti a dummy unit will go on the reverse direction you or possibly other people are going, that's just my suggetstion 53 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-13 @Ghost
54 By Millennium 2008-01-13 Original idea but I think if you add REMOVES DEBUFFS ability to Surgery it will be quite balanced.
55 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-13 sorry about that double post up there. but i think the only other things my changing is the typo and surgeryc/d to 11 56 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-13 Wow I wish I had any idea what you're talking about lol. Four what? Nobody tells me anything... 57 By MrZombie 2008-01-13 So i really like the concept of this guy just a couple things I would like to add.
58 By newbie 2008-01-15 hey NovaProspekt i have slight question to the ulti what if the enemy has the brain surgery and reversed by magnataur or vacuumed by ishkafel or hook or swap or blink 59 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-15 the four is a word to expalin 4 peoples who destroyed hero ides with simple, pure word.
60 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-15 I can destroy hero ideas with one word... you mean, coming in, reading the whole thing, and screaming:
61 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-15 swap would work as normal the mag ulti would work cuz its ulti but blink and hook would go opposite direction of what you clicked 62 By Ghost 2008-01-15 Bard Man
63 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-15 @ghost
64 By luomar1122 2008-01-16 The last skill man is so ugly i mean ugly!!! 65 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-16 how so please do explain 66 By cowlickman 2008-01-16 Alright, so I really didn't appreciate your comments on my heroes. Not because they were negative, I can handle constructive criticism, in fact I love it! But in your case, everything you said was false. One reason for this is because, for my Harpy Scout, everytime you said my skill was similar to someone else's skill, you add "but this is different" afterwards. Here goes:
67 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-16 see i think thats cute. the fact that i didnt like his heroes he got in a tiff and had to go off on my hero. the thing is my hero has been rated at least 7/10-10/10 by almost every 1. why would i get a 5/10 from you? i can sence sum hostility because i dont think your heroes will do well. to be frank they just dont seem like they would do well in dota.
68 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-16 @cowlick
69 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-16 rated 9/10
70 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-16 no i think i know what he means by my skills are "similar". my skills are similar yes, but similar in a very broad aspect like most heroes have a move than is unique besides theyre ulti and i dont think he knows this
71 By MrZombie 2008-01-16 Why is fat cow pmsing on your heroes comments? Seems like he's angry but I think it's corrupt advertisement. 72 By AJ07 2008-01-16 first skill imba.....almost no net mana loss, esp. once u get intel and mana saving items 73 By cowlickman 2008-01-16 Ok, I sincerely appologize about that comment. I was in a sour mood yesterday already when I posted that and it was inapropriate. I don't even know why I'm arguing about all this, we could go on forever. I said I gave you a 5/10 only based on the "similarity" of the skills, which you seemed to hold in such high regard as you were rating my ideas. Anyway, like I mentionned, your idea is good and there's nothing wrong with it. I didn't actually give you a 5, I didn't rate yet.
74 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-16 actually the first skill is fine. cuz your not gunna always get the hit and drain 25 manna. and 30 mana a second is alot. 75 By NaRc0T 2008-01-18 basicly he dont have mutch dmg or armor neather hp no maybe a nice stat gain and ms would not be so bad 76 By NaRc0T 2008-01-18 it is not easy farm char has no AEO or nothing if redusing stat gain this hero will just SUX ... only use of his skills will be to RUN RUN AND RUN :p 77 By wasted_haze666 2008-01-19 wow nice hero he makes his enemies "EMO" lol but indeed he is a great hero 78 By ~SilverBullet~ 2008-01-19 Ultimate is the real deal on this hero! it rocks 79 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-19 @NaRc0T
80 By jaypee1307 2008-01-19 I like the last skill unique.Something like if you cast it on an enemy hero and he goes WTF!! who's controlling me!!!!
81 By MrZombie 2008-01-19 Why the hell would it teleport to the other well?
82 By Ghost 2008-01-19 oh snap.
83 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-19 IMO spells would all function normally. Its when you yourself choose to MOOVE somewhere. You getting displaced by Black Hole would not be reversed into being pushed away, nor would you Blinkstrike this dummy unit in the other direction or something weird like that. 84 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-01-20 but if that happens,(spell works reversely ) BS would be an ultimate partner 85 By Judirek 2008-01-20 FUCK!!!!!COOL HERO,VERY POWERFUL!!!!!! I hope that it will be a success! 86 By johnnyx92 2008-01-20 Wow the ulti is really creative and orgin, i really look forward to play this hero,the ulti is good at chase/escape, or anything else, but the only thing i don,t especially like is the surgery skills, is to little hp for him self, will be useless at late game, so why don,t change so it get more hit points for ally and him self and get like 20 sec colldown, just a tip 87 By tr3ncht0wn 2008-01-20 Great hero...
88 By Ghost 2008-01-20 i don't know aiming a spell like carion swarm/dragon slave/breath of fire would look good going in the other direction.
89 By lionwings 2008-01-20 imba hero 90 By EndlessWrath 2008-01-20 I've been really hesitant of posting about this hero..
91 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-20 see im not a big fan of people who have revenge stories i myself like the stories where the guy goes crazy and just starts droppin people 92 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-21 Lol, your typical psychopath with unusually sharp implements, yes? Hehehe... 93 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-21 i think that being able to rate a hero idea should take some kind of ranking system that shows you know the basics of dota, cuz im tired of these noobs saying this hero would suck when i had almost perfect reviews from what would happen to be the 4 best oppinions on hero ideas. 94 By 09275362090 2008-01-21 The ulti is so lame...
95 By darrell13 2008-01-21 Brain Surgery?? when used the enemy will go opposite way??? automatically?? or when he is moving??? 96 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-21 @09275362090
97 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-21 I agree with Nova! Make your own if you think you're so good! 98 By EndlessWrath 2008-01-21 I'm disagreeing with Nova.. but not completely.
99 By cowlickman 2008-01-22 Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about useless comments. There should be a way to take them off because they are a waste of space and a pain to go through when reading the comments. Maybe we should ask Drew to implement something appropriate? 100 By Ghost 2008-01-22 NovaProspekt)
101 By cowlickman 2008-01-22 I was thinking more of an editing option, to take of or "hide" messages that do not help the hero idea. Of course only the creator would have access to this option. It could also get rid of those ugly double posts... ewwww! 102 By MrZombie 2008-01-22 I say a fist is installed into computers that determines I.Q. through internet forum posts and punches anyone in the nuts that posts something stupid.
103 By cowlickman 2008-01-22 cheers! 104 By Bard Man 2008-01-22 Bard Man approves of that! 105 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-22 Good plan good plan. Methinks that the creator-deletion option has been discussed and turned down because it would allow the creator to delete posts they simply didn't like, despite them being constructive and helpful in reality. Or similar. 106 By cowlickman 2008-01-22 Well if someone decides to delete a constructive comment, that means that they are one of these people we are trying to restrict from even posting them. Therefore, they deserve to use the system inadequetly because they're not good enough for it. 107 By War_Wrecker 2008-01-23 brain surgery is too easily countered, make it they just try to walk in random directions. 108 By War_Wrecker 2008-01-23 and why was he a clock worker? 109 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-23 why did you double post?
110 By Holy Shit 2008-01-23 is this your idea of a joke? 111 By jingu3 2008-01-23 Its interesting...just reminds me of Naruto...the battle btwn Kabuto and Tsunade. Kabuto uses the chakra scalpels and u have the "mana scalpels".
112 By june_csr14 2008-01-24 To me some of his skills are a lot like Yakushi Kabuto's skills from Naruto... Specifically the scalpel and the one with the movement reversal caused by nerve damage...
113 By Waazzaa 2008-01-24 really cool hero and i agree that u might figure out pretty easy not to click in the base...but yeah..that little second might rescue u or get another kill...
114 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-24 wtf is naruto. is that like japananime stuff? cuz thats not what i like to watch 115 By jingu3 2008-01-24 Sorry, just seem a little too similar...
116 By Bard Man 2008-01-24 Bard Man recognized the similarity between Yakushi Kabuto and this guy too, but didn't feel like saying anything.
117 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-24 what the hell is manga? 118 By jingu3 2008-01-24 Sorry, just seem a little too similar...
119 By Ghost 2008-01-24 first of naruto isn't very good died at about....ep 120..
120 By siansaechao 2008-01-24 this hero is too imba, first of all wat a rigged ass passive skill, 40% dmg increase then u mana drain and yet u recieve mana per hit back rofl. u lose 5 mana for 40% dmg increase and mana drain, and bleed out is too rigged for a skill, it should be switch with the ult like BS. 121 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-25 first of all you dont even know remotely what your saying. this hero is far from rigged. no its not a passive its a skill like storm spirit his move electric rave-not passive, and 2 blood seeker has plus 80% damage increase thats almost a freakin double damage, thats almost svens ulti for gods sake
122 By Ghost 2008-01-25 to be able to keep the first skill on all the time, you must attack once every 0.9 seconds and you must be attacking a unit with mana AND on top of that they need to not run faster than you. because as everyone knows treads may bea great item but if the pricks run faster than you the IAS isnt going to help much.
123 By Shimrra_3 2008-01-26 @ 120 = I agree with Nova and Ghost. Perfectly balanced + learn to read. 124 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-26 @ghost
125 By EndlessWrath 2008-01-26 so the other day I played an enfos...for the first time in probably a year...
126 By joker206 2008-01-26 this hero sounds funny 127 By geccocoolz 2008-01-28 im getting confused with the ulti..... 128 By ChunkStyle 2008-01-28 imo from a standpoint of constructive criticism, his introduction could use a rewrite 129 By bluefear92 2008-01-28 noobs
130 By Ghost 2008-01-31 if you are going to post a single word comment can you please next time make it a real work?
131 By trinitydota 2008-01-31 Nice hero idea, I love it =)
132 By trinitydota 2008-01-31 Nice hero idea, I love it =)
133 By NovaProspekt 2008-01-31 yeah no its fine the way it is. 134 By Ghost 2008-02-01 you get owned against silencer with your first skill.
135 By NovaProspekt 2008-02-02 no this skill is just like storms electric rave that doesnt get silenced by his aura 136 By NovaProspekt 2008-02-02 no this skill is just like storms electric rave that doesnt get silenced by his aura 137 By yuernoownage 2008-02-03 I'm trying to make a dream hero, i've got the info, but I wanna know how to insert pictures. Please help?
138 By NovaProspekt 2008-02-03 dont post that stuff on my hero. if you have a question ask sum 1 personaly. u should have to pay me money for that freakin advertisement....... 139 By Ghost 2008-02-03 oh snap well resort to plan b, put drow onto him. 140 By NovaProspekt 2008-02-03 man, my new hero is pissin me off. i messed up while i was makin the discussion thing i was almost done with it and 1 of the pictures changed the page and erased everything. its 4 in the morning and im about to scrap the whole hero.
141 By Ghost 2008-02-04 i have taken to saying "its not the hero you work well with but the player"
142 By Sycher12 2008-02-04 hehe.... i think this hero can pass to be an official hero... ^^
143 By Sycher12 2008-02-04 hehe.... i think this hero can pass to be an official hero... ^^
144 By EndlessWrath 2008-02-04 =/
145 By NovaProspekt 2008-02-04 see when i dont respond to an idea it means i dont either A dont like it or B dont care about it.
146 By Pinky Ishkafel 2008-02-05 147 By spacehamster 2008-02-06 very powerful character... 148 By Ghost 2008-02-06 1st off, that remake has being suggested already.
149 By NovaProspekt 2008-02-06 and yyou kno what can screw you. you may not know when the ulti ends. and you actually start heading tward the opposite team base..lol 150 By NovaProspekt 2008-02-06 double post omg!
151 By NovaProspekt 2008-02-23 to let you people know i am currently unbanned hazaaa! 152 By spicelolly 2008-02-24 the first three skill are good. but his ulti is...uhmmm...i think an imba 153 By DotaMorph 2008-02-25 Okay, for all you guys who don't understand the ultimate, here goes:
154 By akoaypogi 2008-02-25 i said its good 155 By Greater Bash 2008-02-27 Very original skills especially ultimate very creative :) 156 By ZeusULTiNOW 2008-03-05 holy @#$@ thats uber cool gj! 157 By SkyIsOver 2008-03-06 best hero ever, i know because i made it, F|_|CKERS LOL!!! 158 By metalic_ghost 2008-03-06 ur a rude bastard nova
159 By Ghost 2008-03-07 nova is pushing it and now you are too.
160 By KapteinBene 2008-03-13 Just another thought. I understand the whole idea of your ulti and it's really awesome and original. BUT-
161 By vicente29 2008-03-22 nice nice ulti!!! 162 By SexyNegro 2008-03-24 nice hero
163 By Hellcatus 2008-03-27 mmm... nice hero But you'd better improve its ultimate...... Bye... I'm peruvian 164 By houson 2008-04-05 awesome story....cool hero 165 By DrowRangerTraxex 2008-04-09 Love ulti, sounds kinda funny 166 By dota_king_dk07 2008-04-12 DUDE?!!!THIS HERO ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YEAH BABE!!! 167 By Sco0obY 2008-04-19 The bleed out is too bleedy 168 By Bedlampje 2008-04-27 very nice, it is a balanced hero i think, i hope icefrog sees it :P 169 By Hiri 2008-05-02 good done. |
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anyways other than that after the 5 seconds that it lasts would they turn around and go towards that point or would they keep walking? totally odd and wierd
anyways good idea and nice job totally clueless on ult but w/e 8/10 nice