Crystalis

not worth getting by itself...must go to buriza for the action to start....unless you have a fast AS pretty early, then youre in business.

useful for razor before getting buriza do-kyanon

of course u have to get it b4 the buriza cos the crystalys is a part of the buriza recipe

do these stack? once i saw mortred wit 2 and it looked like she was criticaling every hit

somehow they stack but not 10% + 10% = 20%
the percentage is smaller
but a good item, even withowt critical
it is quite cheap, i buy this 4 clinks

Essentially you're paying an extra 500 for +8 damage and Crit. Pretty freakin sweet.

Will the crit stack with the enchantress's impetus? (assuming your chances are right)

what bagofmilk said, its great, even without the buriza

this is a cheap item 2350! +35 and 10% chance to critical at 1st glance the stats arent very good but if u compare these to the cost u get alot out of it for your money early on ns good with this paired with hunter in the night

only really good because it's cheap.

its not only good cos its cheap, on rare occasions, i dont even bother with buriza aftawards cos of the buriza price

This is early game item, i always get this when i am level 4-6 and get ready for buriza. ownage.

i use two of these with s&y When i'm using razor

Good item for Luna. It gives her a strong damage and after that youll get almost all the shots critical so by then youll be rich as hell.

For Luna, she only gets a critical on the 1st shot, and her glaives don't bounce from it. It's like a normal attack. I wonder how that makes her rich?

this is definitely not an early game item, since you dont have the damage to boost.

problem with this item and buriza is that many ppl think they can just build them super fast with agility heros
YOU ARE WRONG u need health killing high crit low health ppl early game is like a walk in the park few spells and ur dead

Crystalis for Clinks is a nice item for him!

u guys forget that this item gives 35+ extra damage. by the time u get this item, ur base damage should be 70'ish + 35 damage. its rather cheap.

is this good if i spam it on morterd

this is very very good for Balanar since he attacks like with super fast speed.

I was just curious... If you want high damage output for an agil hero, should you choose Crystalis or Yasha??? 10x.

is this good for phantom assassin?

Am I the only one who knows that Crystalis was an Action RPG for NES? :)

stack the criticals on skeleton king!!

stack the criticals on skeleton king!!

no it wont stack directly. an extra 10% for a 1.75 crit. if both crits hits the lower one is counted i think ive read somewhere, so its not good on mortred or SK

You get two separate chances to deal a critical, if they go off at the same time, the lower damage multiplier is reduced. The chances of scoring a critical is not increased.

I'm surprised no one has suggested Naix at late game. Lifestealing a critical would help lots.

Purely hypothetical here... if you had 6 Crystalis' you would have +210 damage and 6 10% chance to crit. On a hero without a passive crit ability... let's use Clinkz as our example, each attack would calculate 6 times if it crit'ed. Think of it like rolling 6 ten sided dice. If you hit a ten, you crit, but only once per attack. Now, I don't remember everything from my AP Stats class, but it won't add to a 60% crit rate, but it will be quite high. If I'm wrong with the way I'm seeing the crit ability, let me know.

Adding to my previous post...I did a little math. If you assume a 100% failure rate if you don't have one, and adding a 10% success rate for each you have... if you had 6 your crit would fail 53.1441% of the time, or you'd have a success rate of 46.8559%. If you had two, your success rate would be 19%. 3 would yield a 27.1% success. Four nets you 34.39% success. Lastly, if you own five, you'd have a 40.951% chance to crit. So, it stacks, but it follows the rules of adding percentages.

i think it follows the rule of the vanguard. when one fails, there is anotha one that has the same percentage to follow. u hav 6 dicerolls, all with 10% to score with critical.

not entirely sure if it stacks like vanguards (65% chance to block, if first roll fails, anotha 65% chance to block follows) or bashers [15% + (remainding percentage x 15%)].

If you don't buy Riza it really sucks

not hard to buy, but its not useful on its own. get this for buriza

OnE of the best items

a very cheap lelve 3 item. sometimes i feel like this has to be good c ause its level 3 and it usually turns out to be that way.

dustmite your calculations are correct however you can only crit once. for example if you proc with 2 crits it doesnt stack you get just one crit. but the chances do stack nonlinearly like you posted. they have diminishing return . the first gives 10% the second 9% the third 8.1% and so on.

the 35 damage on this item is really nice for early game as well as the crit. if you look at the benifits in terms of average damage per attack then one crystalis gives 35 damage and a 7.5% daamge increase (1.75*.1 + 1*.9=1.075). if you have a base damage of 100 your crystalis now gives you 35+7.5=42.5 to your average attack. pretty nice for 2350 gold.

i saw a guide somewhere with the mechanics on crit stacking and stuff. there is a priority programmed into the game. depends on which slot the item is in when you got the skill and when you got the item. so if both crits happen the higher priority is the one taht counts.

some people seem to hate this idea and it may just work well for pub games. if you get 2 crystalis this costs 4700 then get one hyperstone coming to a total of 6800 instead of getting buri for 6200. doing this you get 70 damage 19% chance to crit which translates to +14.25% damage to your average. and best of all +55% to attack speed. this gives you huge dps. its easier to farm these smaller items and still gives you a chance to upgrade to buri. a buri will give you 75 damage and 20% chanceto crit which translates to 25% to average damage but no increased attack speed. i think that the increased attack speed may make this combo worth getting with certain heros over trying to farm a buri. before you say this is a bad idea and in ways it is. consider the following. you or your team is doing poorly and it isnt safe for you to try and farm large amounts instead you are trying to farm for small items and your deaths wont be a big deal. this may take more slots but with some builds that wont be a big deal. you also start to get benfits earlier, probably getting one crystalis then a hyper then crystalis you have 35 + a 10% crit and +55% ais after 4450 gold.

Can someone tell me what critical strike mean???

just to clear things up on the question if crits stack or not they dont stack because each is a seperate item but each item has a chance in its own its like saying since you have 2 guys on a basketball team that can shoot 50% so you cant miss not true but you do have a greater chance to crit. and its not a higher crit with more its the same percentage.

Very worth

mageyonelook:

that is a really good idea man! I love 2 crys +hyper, i will have to try it
I always felt that crys was a really good deal, whereas buriza was not, now i have proof!

BTW crits stack with diminissing returns:
bascially it is like this 2 crys = 19% crit chance.

((1 -((1-item%)*(1-item2%)...))

go it w/ buriza...

most compatible w/

razor
bone clinkz
traxex
sven
troll warlord

but u must go on w/ buriza

useful w/ stunners and w/ very fast attack.....

Anyone here think that this looks like the Blade of Olympus from God of War II?

this thing is sucks!
it will be better buy a satanic.
i remind you to never buy this item it's useless but expensive just like the butterfly

nice item..

its not expensive. apart from javalin, that is the only few items that grant a decent amount of damage for 2k gold.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Relieable Cheap and powerful on fast ataacks..like an AK-47..the chance is gewd!

I like getting 2 Crystalis. 2 Seperate chances to deal 10% damage. With fast heroes, a second chance is all you need : P And it''s 1200GP cheaper than a Buriza

I get buriza and another Crystalis for a double roll on my crits..dual crit pawns!

IT LOOKS JUST LIKE ARGENT AVENGER FROM WoW SOO WICKED