Dagon

i dont think the upgrade is any good. too expensive

its not too bad...i mean when u have nothing better to spend your gold on .

Ehhh... A neutral item where most heroes can get this item for KS purpose, or for basic kill purpose, EG.Lina / Lion for extra nuke, viper / veno / Doom, as a ULTI-aid. or even OmniKnight / Centaur to cut down that chase pass the tower. ; ) *tip* NEVER UPGRADE FOR CHRIST SAKE.

Dagon may good for the int type hero

which one is the upgrade

I think, the UPGRADE can be VERY USEFUL - and worth its price, if someone use it well! Don't forget, it will give you a LOT OF KILLS!!! With Dagon, the escape is almost impossible to the enemy... And each kill worth about 2-300 gold... The damage of Dagon level 1 is 400, while 800 of Dagon 5 - it become DOUBLE as lethal...

1 more thing: the COOOLDOWN of Dagon is really SHORT: ONLY 40 SEC!!! Just imagine, you get every 40sec an extra 800 DMG... (If you have got enough mana, of course.) Not bad, uh???

RE:which one is the upgrade?

First buy a DAGON = Blades of attack (650gold) + Staff of Wizardry (1000gold) + Dagon Recipe (1350gold). Now you have got a DAGON LEVEL 1. UPGRADE is when you buy AGAIN a Dagon Recipe! Dagon level 1 + Dagon Recipe = DAGON LEVEL 2, etc... The maximum is DAGON LEVEL 5 (= Dagon level 1 + 4 Dagon Recipe). It is VERY EXPENSIVE (1000+650+1350x5 = 8400gold!!!), but it is a LETHAL WEAPON...




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Posted by Dr.Drakken
2007-01-26
which one is the upgrade?

wow...a promotion of Dagon

nah... i could buy better items instead of spendin 3k on +100 more damage on one item... why settle for 1 high damage dealn spell and waitin for that one cooldown when u can hav 2 medium damage dealn spell and wait for 2 cooldowns.

great w/ tinker w/ a sheep stick u just dont know...

Might be good for Axe late game when the hp on the other guys start stacking. At level 5 this will be your pimp stick for int heros. They'll never know what hit them and they'll start running away at 1500 hp :D.

This item is pretty pimp for mid-level bloodseekers. Example, at lvl 6 bs starts going for kills yeah? (rupture ftw) Well, nothing gets the BS moving faster than a low health hero, and 400 damage to any agi or int hero at lvl 5,6, or 7 (unless they be spammin the str items) will put them at risk of activating bloodseekers ms buff (whose name slips my mind). So, BAM dagon, -400 hp, BAM rupture, 150, half hp = say hello to my lightspeed killing machine.

this item is one of the best but expensive (Bittersweet)

Are you all noobs?! upgrading dagon is very gud! because it's like a subtitute for finger of death! and sometimes when you use dagon a hero still lives but in already a red color! so plss get recipe now!

Astekrog is a noob!of course it's expensive! its like a finger of death once it have been upgraded!

the best item for lina

let me see.... lvl 5 dagon or something the same price but is much better.... say, butterfly or MKB. hmmmm

If your Lion - NEVER BUY DAGON!!!!

If people want to be able to nuke like a champ, just use Lion and Refresher (5600)+ Aghanims (6200).

You spend a total 11800 versus 8400, but that extra 3400 gets you over 2000 damage instead of 800.

Although a refresher + LV5 Dagon for anybody else would be real killer.

One nice thing about having dagon is that when later game comes and your wondering what to buy, upgrading your dagon is always effective.

last hit purposes... chase a dying hero...

Good ITEM

Wher is the Dagon receipe? is it a item? or jst by the dagon it self again?
thanks

^obvious n00b. ur lookn at the recipe scroll right now

ahahhahahah Dagon is the best item ever ahahhaha its badass

the most useless (expensive) item ever
most nobs buy it first. lol

not if ur an AoE kind of hero. u could probably get like double kill mid game with ezalor, obviously low health heros though. ignus fatis, necro, illuminati, mana drain, dagon, illuminati.

Great for terrorblade. Why?

Sunder(AT LOW LIFE) + Dragon = Easy Kill

meepo is happy

Dagon 5 is worth more than Divine Rapier... in the hands of a dedicated nuker... can be a devastating combo... i like it with Nerubian Assassin: Vendetta+Impale+Mana Burn+Dagon 5.... hahahahahaha... most players never bother upgrading this.... but for me Dagon 5 is more lethal than divine...

dagon 5 is gay..

you buy dagon coz u dont know how to maximize ur hero thats it!!

well, so far iv'e found upgraded dagons useful for only 1 hero...and its terrorblade...i don't even upgrade it to 5!!
dagon 3 works enough...i mean it's too expensive for heaven's sake!! i only use dagon 1-2 for nuking heroes...i only use it for chasing an enemy low on life...u don't actually use it for a combo...it's more of a finisher move....anybody plz correct me if i'm wrong...

I agree mostly reanne2000, except if you are pugna, and your enemies are all low hp nukers or something, then get dagon 5 and decrep and *ZAP* oodles of dmg.

hmmmm good item...lvl up is somewhat of a drag though..

upgrading dagon is not worth it

your paying 5400 gold for adding 400 damage... heart of tarrasque is about 5.2k

no one ever upgrades it... only n00bz such as "LETHAL", "ejcena", "hiromico" and "Capwn33" (lol, i just offended 4 members, but upgraded dagon is far too pricey) who max upgrade on this item. only time i suggest dagon max upgrade is if ur team is full of heroes who AoE damage and all have Aura items and Dagon max upgraded. then u would deal like over 15k in damage in one spot. (for example, ezalor, harbinger, squee and spleen, lesale deathbringer, raigor stonehoof, razor combo)

Dagon is good for nerbiuan!!
it pwns with nerbiuan!!!

nerubian weaver or assasin?

Does the Refresher Orb reset the Dagon's cooldown?

only good for ksing

yeah, im curious if refresh rests dagon's cooldown. does casting Pugna's decrepify before using dagon increase the dagon's damag by 44%? does a level 5 dagon dealing 800 damage normally, deal 1,152 damage when a hero is decrepified?

Refresher orb resets all cooldowns.
i dunno bout decrepify, i dont play pugna much

very nasty with Gorgon, but I never really bother with the upgrade. It's also good for Viper, Tinker, Weaver and Abbadon

Hell yea! Dagon's damage will be amplified by Decrepify. If you've ever seen a smart person play pugna, you'll automaticly see a dagon sitting in their inventory after they have scepter.
Pugna's the only character I ever really get Dagon for though. Makes me wanna try it out on others. Oh, one more thing, Pugna + Lina + Lion = Unstoppable. Even more so if they ALL get dagons.

Terrorblade can use this item.

SUNDER + DAGON = 85% - 90% chance to kill a hero.

Good if you have the cash and need a last nuke.

Great for Alchemist, who has money to blow but lacks serious hero killing abilities.

just have everyone on your team get this so when u gank BAM! u just lost 2000 hp + normal damage and spells so how u like it now pudge 4000 hp just do this and slow him till the cooldown and bam *dead* lolz i think it would be funny to have everyone gank w/ this item

let's get this straightened out, lupeman is.. BAD, every comment he makes is not a fact, just his opinion..

He can call me and other people on this site that get the fact that: Items are good sometimes, bad sometimes, lupeman just thinks that every single item has a predetermined level of skill for every single situation.

ie: lupeman is a noob.

GGKTHNX.

^ well said

I can safely say that the only hero on whom I would get dagon ONE is Anubarak. Period.

is dagon good for leshrac

@ Capwn33. ur opinions r much worse than mine. and the facts are already provided, posting opinions of whether an item or hero is good against what is what ur supposed to do. go upgrade ur dagon to lvl 5, something about wasting 1k of gold for a mere 100 damage, doesnt seem worth it.

hmm, don't get dagon 5? what about a witch doctor with one of those? maledict, then dagon 5 an enemy hero. if you had him stunned and death ward was activated, that would be a sure kill, regardless of how much hp that hero had (unless you get stunned or interupted during death ward...); however, i'd only get a dagon 5 after buying all the essential core items.

great for tinker

good for after u have completed your build and want to have a little fun with d no0bz

the upgrades definitely aren't worth it, too expensive and 325 mana for use =(

It depends on what type of hero you have and how you plan on getting kills.

On a 1v1 pudga with this can kill someone before the creeps come(i know i've done it twice), just cast his thing that increases the spell dmg. and cast away.

This is Better For Lion.Just Like 2 Fingers.
But Two Expensive.

I've seen Axe use a Dagon before. Quite devastating. If Axe can level quickly enough, a Dagon and Culling Blade make a good combination.

dagon lvl 1 is good for nukers, but for god's sake, dont upgrade it until you've filled every other slot. 1350 gold for an extra 100 damage? no way.

NA´s core item

I find a normal dagon useful with rikimaru when you just don't feel like blinking and they're running away with 1% health left. In the end-game, of course.

I haven't tried, but I imagine dagon with the Dwarven Sniper should prove amusing. Dagon > Snipe = about 1000 health if dagon is not upgraded.

lol rikimaru a dagon
1. his mana isnt that high, i realise dagon gives stats too, but still..
2. its better to blink as u can continue chasin
3. if the dagon doesnt kill him, theres no way to catch up cos they r out of range of blink.

same goes with sniper, his mana pool is very low.

how does it meant by upgrade with dagon recipes?

good with lich
nova + chain frost + dagon
= hero w/ f***** low hp

i agree. the upgrade is way 2 expensive it is such a wate of money but the item itself is good

Excellent for Necrolyte combo-Dagon-DP-Ult

one combo only: terrorblade-sunder-lvl 5 dagon- GODLIKE...HOLYLLLYLYL SHIT

Dagon at lvl 5 is more expensive than divine

Is this a good item for he venomancer early game?

Bane Element with this is godly o.O 1 nightmare,Fiend s grip and a dagon lvl 2 can do the trick yippie

LOL WTF rnf02

great with doom bringer cauz its a combo first nuke the enemy with lvl death then hit them with dagon5 then doom!!!!!!

this item is too nooby, people always manage to get it early game and rape any agil/intel heroes...

just reading all these comments.. i think this would work well with faceless.. if u are vsing a tank.. u can chronosphere them.. get them low HP assuming u got MOM.. then dagon! if they still alive.. time walk and if u have bashers.. u should finish them off.. hmmm im gonna try that

oh come on dagon faceless??? it is a waste of time.
also it is good for certain heroes but not all ok.

Build this item and fully upgrade for Rotund`jere.

Think about Rotund`jere with Scepter: 1.1x damage per missing hp. If you cast Energy Burst and cast your ultimate skill (Reaper`s Scythe) together:

800 dmg from "energy burst"

275 dmg from "Death Pulse"

plus

1075*1,1=1182 dmg from Reaper`s Scythe

a total -disaster- of 2257 dmg, assuming enemy doesn't have "hood of defiance". Cut down 30% of 2257, if hood is present, and you inflict 1580 dmg which is enough to kill many agi-int heroes and also deal with tanks.

i love this item it made my furion turn beyond golike with this chain attack:

1st skill - 2nd skill- let the summon creeps attk the hero trappped - 4th skill+lvl 4 dagon = pwnage!!!!!!!!!!!

Is trully really very usefull if you gotta figh against da enchantres and you are a strength type hero

dude are you on drugs

whoah.. lookin good

Each upgrade of the Dagon shortens cooldown by 4 seconds from 6.49 onwards... still I don't think its worth upgrading...

Pugna with decrepify and dagon rules!!

Decripify + Dagon5 = 1120 Damage single hit

freaking rnf02 made me lag .. LOOOL

this is kinda expensive if you upgrade so much .. only upgrade once or twice if you really want to .. no point wasting money on more ..

good w/ chen and pugna.

i put dagon on a crow curier for do the last hit on enemy hero :p

when the enemy is run away with a red health n ur hero is to slow for casing them,.. on a crow curier cast burst, then case the enemy, dagon, dead

but i've never upgrade it to the max lvl.. to expensive -_-'

How Do You Upgrade It/Where Do You Find The Dagon Recipe????

Would the refresher orb recharge the Dagon's spell?

if they lowered the recipe scroll it would be a great item..maybe down to 600 or something, but right now its not wort it

yeah good for all nuker hero!!!!!!!

this thing is soooooo gay when maxed. that dam 800 dmg thing is killer. if you can get this maxed mid game, you will win 1v1.

can u put this on rigwarl?

this item is an outlaws's weapon of choice! you can kill stuff with this! imagine, in wtf mode, let your crow have this, then use courier shield! dead hero(es)!!!

this is best for:
necrolyte
lion
lina
clinkz
yurnero

ur stupid if you upgrade this

dagon is good for Furion.
Cuz when they have low hp, just trap em in the tree and dagon em lawlsz

dagon, its a very nice item, atleast for intel heroes, and almost everybody is right about never upgrading this. its enough 400dmg, and yet, spend your money for other items.MKB or Orchid...etc.

I use it one 2 heroes:
Necrolyte and Witchdoc

The most expensive item in DotA : 8400 gold

very awesome item

i used it on my courier and the my classmates became angry because they died of a courier

cool item for tiny.

use this item to kill roshan with crow

unbelievable it so strong and can make a holyshit