Satanic

Uhm, it's the other way around, excepting Feast.

Life steal is counted as per damage dealt by you, not damage taken by target

how life steal counted?
(damage deal, life damaged or something else)

It is still an orb effect, hopefully it will be updated soon

wait wait. isn't Satanic still has an orb effect? i'm talking about 6.60b.

it's not stated in DS's description lah.

Eh not yet update?The new effect since 6.60 is
Unholy Rage grants 150% additional lifesteal for 3.5 seconds
Unholy Rage has no manacost and 50 seconds cooldown
Orb effects do not stack.

from http://www.playdota.com/items

for broodmother is super lifesteal

satanic now imba..
Love it much

good for DK?

satanic is now 150% lifesteal for 3.5 seconds when you activate it ...i think its good item for dps hereos..like mortred.. crit + 150% lifesteal = ..?what the..?..hahahahaha

You deal normal damage, reduction from armor occurs, then you lifesteal 25% of that. So it would be 100 damage, reduced by 20% armor reduction (about 4 armor) then 25% lifesteal, or 20 HP.

with life steal, do you take away life on top of the damage you are dealing normally or do you do wtv damage you deal and 25% of the damage dealt is return to you as health

ex 1) 100 damage plus 25% life steal = 125 damage total and 25 health returned to you

2) 100 damage and 25 of that damage is given to you as health

U fucking can't compare Satanic with vlad ... Vlad is for melees that already have / want / need orb effects ( Brood ... ) Satanic is for imba heroes that would lifesteal as mom suck ... See Mortred ...

THIS ITEM IS GODLY!
almost every strength and agility hero with this item and vlad will win against any other hero who doesn't have any lifesteal.
25% + 15% + 16% = 56% lifesteal
This item is the best for skeleton king with his 20% lifesteal aura giving total of 76% lifesteal
I once saw demon witch with a battle build: Treads, buriza, butterfly, assault cuirass, mkb, AND SATANIC. He went up against magina with the same build except he had HoT instead of Satanic. Who Wins? Lion Pwned Magina Baby

Vlads offering is better if you just going for support.

And it's like 3 times the price.

dude vlad is not even close to as good as satanic, wtf? satanic gives so much more, just read. some ppl.....

imba

Vlad is better and cheaper for melee heroes only.

no it's not an orb effect