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View Item Idea > Ehrgeiz Ehrgeiz Created by tr3ncht0wn on 2008-03-12 Rating: Viewed 2794 times Commented 36 times
	Price: 5405 gold Description: Forged in the valley of lightning. A gauntlet blessed with unstable power, granting the beholder the ability to perform lightning quick attacks while disabling foes in battle. Gives: +10 Strength +50 Damage +25% Attack Speed Bash (Passive) 15% chance for melee, and 10% chance for range heroes, stuns for 1.1 second, deals 25 additional damage. Energize (Passive) Each successful bash increases attack speed by 15% for melee, and 10% for range heroes. Attack speed increase is capped at 150%. Speed increase lasts for 7 seconds from the last increase. Requires: Cranium Basher Bracer Gloves of Haste Ehrgeiz Recipe Scroll

	Discussion: This item disposes of the double cranium basher build for heroes and further adds to the definition of Permabash! This item unlike the normal Cranium Basher has a better chance against its worst enemy which is evasion or dodge. Since this item increases the attack speed, therefore giving more chances for hits to land and bash to occur. Cranium Bashers always finds their place in hands of agility heroes or fast attacking melee heroes, but this item is much more than that. It gives slow attacking heroes the chance to permabash, given that he has a disable to give time for the bash to lock and for the speed to increase. Best equipped by: DPS Heroes who have stuns, slows, disables, or are highly capable of increasing their attack speed. Best equipped with: Items that increase attack speed or Lifesteal items For heroes who desperately needs attack speed and can gamble on taking damage, this will tremendously increase the chance of bash and energize. Agility Type Permabashers always build Butterfly to increase their chance of bash. For DPS Type Strength and Intelligence Heroes, this item matches well with Ehrgeiz Power Treads to power up your item, more speed to gain more speed increase. Life steal items benefit from much speed increase and bash.
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1 By Greater Bash 2008-03-12

uhm i think this is way imbalance

2 By cakercunt 2008-03-12

I agree Troll. You are just making permabashing even more soild

3 By dupnitzabg 2008-03-12

ummmm.....NO!

4/10 for the effort though

4 By sin_slayer91 2008-03-12

kinda imba...

5 By Shimrra_3 2008-03-13

Lol I remember telling you this was imba in the Dream Items forum... definitely imba still. Oh yes, I may have said this was 'permabash on lvl1 Techies'.

6 By SlwaBluPhnx 2008-03-13

Make bash an orb effect, that is the only way I see it balanced.

And reduce the time on attackspeed and make it like huskar's blood arrows, every increase lasts on it's own but they are additive.

7 By Ghost 2008-03-13

compare to Rexxar, you are not meant to make an item have better stats then a hero.
rexar with this gets 250% IAS troll gets 300% and he is ranged.
make it 5% on ranged and 10% on heroes caps at 80%
this essentially makes it one of the better IAS items with no drawbacks but it takes time to work it up.

8 By XemnasxxEternal! 2008-03-13

This would make bashers a lot more tougher to beat. Way imbalanced..

9 By War_Wrecker 2008-03-14

huzzah for item ideas + builder going public!!!!!! i reckon energize should be an activate, and maybe as long as you get a bash hit every 3 seconds the thing doesnt cancel, so basically you go spaz until theres nothing left :P. or you get stunned/purged.

10 By War_Wrecker 2008-03-14

of course with mana cost and a bitch of a cooldown

11 By sand_king26 2008-03-14

I think it is too imba...

12 By Jayceja 2008-03-14

think one of these a basher assault bfly mom and treads on just about any melee dpser, it would make them unbeatable in a 1v1 against any non perma basher,

13 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-03-14

gosh

14 By thewyliecoyote 2008-03-14

+1 Str, +10% attack speed, +20 damage, and the Energize passive for a 1200g recipe?? Still, I like your idea for an upgraded basher that includes improved attack speed, but this is very imbalanced. I recommend, changing 50 damage to 30, and make Energize an orb effect giving a bonus 5% AS per bash in the last 5 seconds. Also, there should be no bonus AS from bashes caused by hero skills, and maybe let ranged have some fun by giving them 15%Bash also. Then, you'd have a rockin'ly sweet item. 7/

15 By gachiemchiep 2008-03-15

i think it's imbalance:this item too cheap and too strong.maybe descrease the attack speed"10%,bash 10% meelee-5% range is more balanced

16 By tr3ncht0wn 2008-03-15

WHAT CAN I DO?? can't be edited.. and plus.. i don't think it would've been ACCEPTED if it was that damn IMBA don't cha think folks???

17 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-03-15

or perhaps they dont pay uh attention because they wanna see new stuff

what would you say if a post an item made out of 2 dr's and would turn into something like 3 dr's and just wont drop at all?

18 By Greater Bash 2008-03-15

CFX is right, almost all items now are accepted because item builder is new.

You just made cranium basher way to imbalance. What are you? A permabash lover???

19 By Shimrra_3 2008-03-15

These can be edited, they're just like str- I don't recall seeing a strategy by you, my bad. Correct me if I'm wrong. Basically, you go to "My Strategies" and scroll until you see 'My Item Ideas' which should now have 'Ehrgeiz' listed under 'Approved Item Ideas (Listed)' and it will say 'Edit' next to it... its simpler than it sounds. It just takes a day or two to get reposted.
And don't worry about correlating it to the original in the forum.

20 By dohyun99 2008-03-15

yes these can be edited!

I edited my item idea lol

Read what Shimrra siad and you'll be fine

I won't rate (yet)

21 By safyrohn 2008-03-16

pretty good..i think its not dat kinda IMBA coz u,ll be able to build it in the mid/late game

22 By Jayceja 2008-03-16

actually it might be a problem with his browser, while using mozila i cant edit my ideas i make the changes press next and it goes back to how they were, but it works fine in internet explorer

23 By minegreen 2008-03-17

wow the new and improve basher....i would love if mr.jarakal would use this.."for ever bash,for ever bash, i want 2 be 4ever bash" hahahaha

24 By arash.aceclub 2008-03-17

i love it it's too imba
could you belive this think work

25 By JeFf_ThE_mAOri 2008-03-17

to imba permabash + attack speed wen u stun.....

4/10

26 By mordrid_blacksheep 2008-03-19

its too strong! but i like it!

decrease the aksp cap by 90% and increase the bash chance by uhmm

20% melee; 15% ranged

that should do it!

the idea is very authentic though!

i like it dude!

27 By cheeseasfasfasfs 2008-03-19

so godang imba bash on range wtf uber dmg while ur safe... 2 for just effort

28 By Counter_Force[X] 2008-03-20

he never tries to improve this

29 By fireinfernal67 2008-03-22

HOLY SMOKES THIS ITEM WITH MOM IS A TOTAL OWNAGE MY QUESTION DOES IT STACKS WITH ITSELF?

30 By Raven92 2008-03-25

too imba. btw the name is german and ehrgeiz is in english and means ambition

31 By Greater Bash 2008-03-25

@ CFX

he is to busy changing topic names over and over again...

32 By ssensation 2008-03-26

Deffinitly imba item.....and since i hate perma bashers i dont like it :)
This item is kinda the opposite for "Sheeldras" (another item ideea witch is anti perma bashers)

33 By Wii<R>venom 2008-03-29

Nah... imbalanced. There's enough bash out there already, I don't think anymore is needed.

34 By three333 2008-04-02

sooooo imbalance,bradwarden could kill 5 easy computer-lanayas with fury treads and this item

35 By xxscrimagexx 2008-04-16

kinda too imba lol

36 By nicholasni 2008-04-28

one word...
OVERPOWERED!!!

Ehrgeiz

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