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nice strat

Nice however, i have stuff to point at,

1) Cuirass is a NO, shiva earlier if you wish so. dazzle is not a compotent user of AC
2)No escape mechanism, Dazzle's main weakness. get a dagger, it will help immensely
3)Necronomicon summons is a YAY for Dazzle, I'm suprised you didn't consider it

and congratulations for no Buriza, this strat shall get 9/10, but ill still give 10

Hmm nice strategy
You have got me thinking of using dazzle now.......
Keep up the good work

same as Counter
good strat and about time there was a strat for this guy

thx men nice start

@Counter_Force[X]

Assault Cuirras was whatever an optional item so no big deal at all :D lets replace it with necronomic then but i doubt the game will come this far

About escaping its not in his nature to stay alone in mid-late game only if u owned your enemies in early game. The Poison Touch will do the trick. But yeah when unsupposed things happen a dagger can really useful

Thx for commenting

Very good. Screenshots plus detailed explanations for the win. Itembuild is purely support, I think Cuirass would only be great if you were also getting Deso but still good. I agree that you need Dagger/Lothars for escaping. I like how you've outlined his primary role as a support hero also.
10/10, maybe change all the 'u's into 'you's.

new

remind people dagon aint for ALL int heroes

oh sorry for 2x post
but blink isn't all about escaping, it help a good landing with your slow, unsuspecting skills as well as chasing

Nice guide although I believe that it's alot more important that you cast Shallow Grave on your main carry rather than yourself. A free agies is what I call it can make or break the game depending who you cast it on late game. It's a good guide that stress the importance of Dazzle's support role.
9/10 :)

i kinda disagree with you ~fwii, i believe shallow shoud be casted on DPSer with great ability to defend or push, helps BD ing towers and such, dazzle is not in list of focused heroes anyway

You should consider Satanic - more heal and it stacks with EoS.
Anyway 10/10.

hmmmmmmmm...

if i were to be asked, get deso instead of skadi... a great synergy with weave... the go cuirass... with this items, he becomes one hell of a hero killer... and your just a poson touch away from killing your enemy... for the other things, good job.. amazing...

I wanted to say that you don't need shiva cos you already have a lot of armor and slows(EoS+Guinsoo+Poison). Satanic would be better in my opinion

Nice guide but it is possible to own 1on1 the idea is farm farm farm!!!

I wanted to say that you don't need shiva cos you already have a lot of armor and slows(EoS+Guinsoo+Poison). Satanic would be better in my opinion

Nice recipe built! Ill introduce it to my friends

I wanted to say that you don't need shiva cos you already have a lot of armor and slows(EoS+Guinsoo+Poison). Satanic would be better in my opinion

@Counter_Force[X]
? Didn't I say that it's more important to cast it on the carry hero?

well i think this hero would own/win even without allies... esp in 1-1 if you know what you are doing... imagine lvl 25 and you die... respawn would be at around 30-35secs before you live... plus no money lost... c'mon man! not flaming though... by the time ur opponents get a vanguard and threads you would've produced 2 ulti orbs already depending on lane opponent... you dont have to own... just down the towers as early as possible...

especially when they're melee... problem is with stunners...
good item build man... its very achievable especially with dazzle...

Agree with COunterX.. AC is an optional item... escaping is a must since you dont want to waste your buff to an unnecessary/untimely death...

and that magina looks like a mushroom... sprouting where he is not wanted hahaha.. easy pawnage...

you pretty much covered up everything...

also you might want to consider a Basilus for mana regen and added armor at first... optional though but with it you end up spamming heal+damage plus poison touch... mana too low at start... i mean mana is good but the more spamming the better... hehehe keeps melee hero back and ranged heroes with out creep kills because you can focus on denying when you can spam heal...

good start man.. gave it 9/10 since escaping a must...
shiva+weave=Wowoweee... makes up for no escaping items but even with the biggest armor at early and mid its a must have especially everyone will be eyeing/hunting you...

pizz out!

nice guide, brilliant. but the screen shots are against retarded enemies. and all show more of the same, they run up to you and attack you, and you just shadow wave and kill them. not saying its bad, but that doesnt need 3 screenshots. ALSO, notice that in all circumstances where you mightve died they all had low hp too. so if they grew a brainstem and nuked you, they wouldve died too! (shallow grave ftw!)


the reason you get skadi, is because you need the stats. gives you enough str to make you tank, makes your attack worth using, and gives you enough int to spam shadow wave enough to allow you to stay in lane for insane periods of time without running out of mana.

@ every1 who says get deso n cuirass.

i hate the noobs, who think you should do something, for a single synergy. like, SK AND SVEN ARE GOOD CUZ THEY BOTH GOT STORMBOLT AND CAN PERMA STUN PEOPLE. no thats NOT why they are good together, how bout sven gets bogus lifesteal, they both get an extra few seconds stun, and sk gets enough armor to be a beasty tank.

you would be better off getting orchid and using soulburn thing, and nuking the crap out of them while its active. assualt cuirass gives you armor, which you can get from more beneficial things, attack speed which you dont really need (and can get from more beneficial things, and anti armor, which means you deal another 3% damage!!! woooo! or you could not waste that time and money and buy an INT item. deso = same as the anti armor comment except its 5% more damage!!

awesome guide as i said. gnight every1

i think the necrominion thingie would work great with him... although it is very hard to use and you would want the extra damage dealt when killing the summons for the hero... but you see that contradicts your healing ability...nevermind this statement... what i meant is using necrominions are for pro... too damn complicated IMO...

besides necrominion would be good after skadii since you can just autoshoot heroes while controlling the minions... hehehe

plus the dagon idea is good but it would be a complete waste if you die early on clashes thats why focus on stats/items boosting your armor and hp.. the manapool is just a bonus because he has lots already once a formidable level is reached...

although the item build is purely support you may add a damage item to make his shots more itchy... this will be your last item to get... why? imagine pulse weaving, damage healing and poison touch are all offense/defense oriented plus add guinsoo... imagine the possibilities! you have poison touch(damage+disable)and keep on spamming it at end game...

just a tip.. if you have successfully played your cards and went down to the last damage item to fit your slot... and still you are not able to seal the game by then or before it reaches that stage then goodbye to you my friend... other heroes may eat you alive...

Its greater bash! =D... firstly, i really would like to express my appreciation to your thanks...

okay now on to the strategy... in my personal opinion, the strategy is well designed... but yeah... I'm surprised that Necro book is not in the list... i always get it for dazzle... necro book is not only a good help in terms of aura and true sight... not to mention the mana burn.... but the best part of it is that it helps you place good damage to enemies early-mid game because you have 2 more creep near the enemy and bam...shadow wave now deals almost max damage =D.... anyway the skadi part is highly agreed.... it really does help for almost everything... HP, armor, MANA, and makes your normal attack MUCH more worth using.... as you are a support... the slow helps your allies too... and yeah i would like to emphasize how important it is to cast the shallow grave on your team's most important hero... normally the carry hero... the 0 gold lost and faster respawn time allows them to get strong faster and result in a possible victory to your team.

regarding the AC and deso... i strongly disagree with those 2 items... first of all... you are a SUPPORT.... why not stop being selfish by trying to KS or own by yourself but play a team game? Having dazzle in a team really helps... and it is easily proven...if you had SO much money to get those... why not help ganks around by getting a blink dagger?... or as some said... even a orchid's malovelance's silence can help your team on top of the 3 second hex...

those were just my opinions...have fun always =D

@ rockista100

u need skadi also for the states otherwise ure stats are pretty pathetic and u can easy be killed

@ all necronomicon users

yeah i also believe this can be a good item but then u most have very fast reflexes... :p i mean your poison touch and heal have both low cds and u want to spam it as soon as the cd ends and then again u wanna control the warlocks for manaburn :) its a good item if u are good with microing :)

Congrats man! You made it!
Very good guide, you just changed the way I use my skills with Dazzle (Weave first and I do the killing lol)
The items are ok, but I believe you could add the reason on those items...
You know, not just, slows... etc..
You justify very good on the skills, and you give proof that it works...
Great job 10/10 from me...

i agree not to use desolator but still i find that assault cuirras comes in very handy the aura armor is very good in teambattles and u also give attackspeed to your allies, not just on yourself

ty all for your lovely comments :D

Good strategy! You did a told a lot about his poison touch.

That Sucks,
i was fully the first person to comment,
and rate,
but obviously my net didnt want to -.-"

But as i tried to say in the first comment, i think it lookls alright, id just have to try it for myself before i can really give my strong opinions.

I seriously liked your guide ^^

Undoubtly the most exiting guide to read. Period. Not only was it a good strat and I liked the items, but i REALLY liked your way of inserting pictures and from a few spelling errors, it was fine ^^

10/10 from me

ty all :) appreciate it

some details of shallow grave u can maximum cast 2 times this spell without the spell will fade away from both of the heroes. If u have refresher u can cast this 4 times but i dont advise to buy refresher. U guys know what i am trying to say? :)

@kesgaea

told u your name would be in this strategy if it would be approved :)
if u are making a strategy plz tell me maybe i can help u in return^^

nyc one.. haha.. i prefer desolator than skads coz weave gives less armor to enemy.

I'll have you all know that I have never seen Dazzle get Necro...? It seems like a very powerful build yet I have never seen it... maybe the majority of Lordaeron are just morons.

nice guide but something that u dont need to do is the + and = signs...

they just make ur item build look more confusing...

the assault cuirass is way too expensive. if you need armor just get platemail, shiva or mekanism and use the extra money to get other items. desolator is only good for the attack bonus because the armor reduction doesn't compare with lvl 4 weave and there are better items to increase attack.

whoa your shadow wave guide s very interesting
1'll wait for your next strategy
KILLER DAZZLE? 10/10http://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/biggrin.gif
Laughing

Dude this is like a super strategy dor anyone. you made is so easy a dead person can get godlike. i give this a 12/10 i mean 10/10

hey guys... is there any command to know the current attack speed of the hero????

Simple - clear strategy and tactics
Sensible - no over dramatic or impractical items builds
Effective - strategy that fits Dazzle's primary role and does well.

This strat is an easy 9/10. not so sure about 10/10

This is a good guide gives all the general info about playing dazzle to his fullest support potential 10/10

althought i dont think the screenshots are good examples because if i was antimage i would blink away and wouldnt attack with your side having creeps but hey thats just what i think

this guide deserves a score of 10/10

@~fwii
i hardly play dps as carry, except perhaps nevermore, but you got the better grip so i the who's wrong ^^

@harlem004
yeah

@shimmra
i play on lodaneron, but that was 4 months ago, before my comp broke T_T. feel free to add me

ILoveMelissa

@Greater Bash
with AC+Mek+Shiva+EoS thats 53 armor bonus, DK is gonna cry T_T

Good guide. I haven't seen much good guides for support heroes

@ Counter = hence majority not entirety ^^

Methinks screenies own all.

more a less how i play dazzle but depending on what i am up against i get desolater over skadi.
and because this is how i play him
and the screenies are good.
10/10

nice but i like blood stone and shivas guard instead of skadi and agascepter if im fighting str type

@ Counter_Force[X]
don't forget to cast also your Weave spell on u ^.^

WOW!! Very well said!!

After reading your strat, I hate Dazzle even more, and the fact that Magina and razor were owned by you was stupid, note the fact AM attacked u at yellow health, and the fact that both AM and Razor were playing as AI's or either you're just good ^^

+/+ *guess it XD*

LOL. Magina and razor are not AIs. They speak dude.

u said it coolzgeek
its just a normal ap game

well all i got to say is that you could make deso & skadi for the Shadow Priest to make him a hero killer cause they both do good damage with Assault Cuirass.

its a bit stupid to rush for 2 orb effect spells skadi is way more better then desolator. also u get nice stats then. But eye of skadi and desolator isnt worth it. If u want some damage get other items( items that increase your intelligence -> u get bonus damage for that) but no desolator

really good guide, like how every thing just builds one on top of the other to help make one killer support hero

like tony would say, it's GREEEEEEEEEEAT!

nice mini map

perfect. 10/10

soso, tried this on bnet, not very effective vs nukers mid game and early die in like 2 nukes. u should improve it. 4/10

@ wowerman

you lost against nukers???
i won with this strategy and i keep saying to them just as the title says

any how you dont need to do as this strategy says its just to help you out
good strategy mate 20/10

@ wowerman

you lost against nukers???
i won with this strategy and i keep saying to them just as the title says

any how you dont need to do as this strategy says its just to help you out
good strategy mate 20/10

I think guinoo and desolater 120 dmg; weave + corruption, 3 shot they die. Just rush for both items. Well i guess your is ok too.

5/10

sorry for double post had a problem with my internet
FORGIVE ME!!!!!!

I think guinoo and desolater 120 dmg; weave + corruption, 3 shot they die. Just rush for both items. Well i guess your is ok too.

5/10

nice stuffs :D

i say ignore wowerman and funkyfrog, they clearly don't know what they are talking about.

yes desolator is plausible but only if you are against heroes that run slower than you and if they don't have a big enough damage out put to break what you would have gained from skadi.

magina?killed by dazzle?! i'm suprised or magina's a noob..

@ wowerman and funkyfrog
well thats your opinion but i dont think i need to improve my guide just because u maybe played 1 single time with Dazzle and u didnt own. This hero also needs some practice to play at his best.

@ Ghost
ty for support

but if u will get desolator with this hero your stats are pathetic low.
I think i already know why they lost. They had no states or they feeded like hell

@ Blasting Illusions

also ty for support

@ all the others who think this guide won't help

it also depends on the players skill to own with him. I can only give u a good guide but that's all.

@funkyfrog and wowerman,
I cant believe you said this guide sucks. This guide has so many screenies and the item build is good. When you lose, dont try to blame other people for their item builds. Maybe the problem is with you guys, not them. At least you should try to appreciate the guide and not saying it sucks.
@greater bash
nice guide with screenies and the item build is good, 9/10

@ trinitydota

ty have fun playing with him :)

I agree with Ghost Trinity and creator, clearly these two have not read many guides... this is one (working) way to play Dazzle, if you can't manage it thats not simply because of the guide. I haven't played Dazzle in months (let alone done well but lets avoid that) and I can still vouch for this guide.

very nice ^_^

oooooh okay thats how to use his skills

it makes sense to me hahah tnx i will try it ^^

such a low review for a good guide... c'mon now.. it deserves better than three stars...

clearly reading is not everyone's storng point so try it first not once dangit so much effort wasted to three stars!

its a 5/10 strategy guide..

the guide isn't complete T_T

your screenshots only showed how to own MELEE type heroes..

you showed RAZOR but you owned him coz you got the early SKADI..

how about for example he is facing hard hitting nukers in the lane early in the game??

Lich,Zeus,Enchantress are just some of them...

how will you deal with these heroes early in the game???

no hard feelings dude..

just my opinion

Ok I used this strat yesterday and there were like a 2 leavers and we dragged the game on for 1.5 h but we still lost. Maybe i'll have a better luck next time. Dazzle can help you turn the tide of the war

@wowerman & funkyfrog
if you played dota for the very first time, and you sucked at it, you would have to practice rite ? you cant just read a guide and expect to have all the skills and start getting results.. sure you dont really get the idea yet, but practice makes perfect

@Greater Bash
What I meant was, they way they played, were like AI's.. either they weren't really thinking, or you outsmarted them or something, haha.

@LeeMinwoo
Dude....if he had to show screenies of nukers, it'll be around lemme see, more than 50 screenies to show ? All needed to be explained ? Its not necesary, just read guides on lane control and micro-ing, learn to use logical thinking and amplify the use of escape mechanisms. Use abit of common sense duh... lol. Seriously, the 5/10 rating was really a waste man...

im kind of surprised that i have only 3 stars i mean i have had many positive reactions and lets say 3 or 4 bad? and still average score is 6. Not many people have rated it then :D

its not that i wanna get more stars for show off or something but 6 stars and so good comments?

I advise u all to play first with this hero a couple of times and then u rate

dont rate if u THINK this strategy is not going to work

Also it would be sad if this guide will dissapear because of only 3 stars and a lot of people liked it.

thats just my opinion.

anyone will have a hard time playing with nukers... the thing is all nukers have atleast 9 seconds cool down for their nukes.. then you have heal.. then armor.. then optional HoD.. cmon dude play with the cards that was dealt to you... do not blame the strategy man... this is a general thing... you pick up from here... a starting point...
not a complete dota guide on how to own enemies for dummies!

at all that say that my guide isnt good
im not going to fight
but i invite u to make also a guide and let the people vote which will be the best (if it will be approved also)

I used this guy three - four times in a row and followed the advise. I found your build to be ineffective. In early game you really do not have enough hit points. From your screen shot and build all the way up to late game you have nothing to increase hit points. I really found it troublesome faceing pudge. As such, the poor beginning messed up the late game. Skadi was an ok idea but overall, this guy should only be use for full support just as the other guide taught.
3/10

I used this guy three - four times in a row and followed the advise. I found your build to be ineffective. In early game you really do not have enough hit points. From your screen shot and build all the way up to late game you have nothing to increase hit points. I really found it troublesome faceing pudge. As such, the poor beginning messed up the late game. Skadi was an ok idea but overall, this guy should only be use for full support just as the other guide taught.
3/10

crappy guide.

you guys are so harsh... there is nothing wrong with this guide, and I sure he put a lot of effort into this

Wow, whats wrong with this.
I found this bit to be ineffective and because of this one possibility I will refrain from giving it total ZERO?
I once again think you guys who have messed this up should consider practicing more.

@ daqueer

So what ure saying is this hero is only good if he stays with his allies?
I know hes mainly support but u cant stay with ure allies the whole game.
Be independant!
Also if u facing pudge ofcourse dazzle has some problems with killing him because of hook dismember rot combo but don't blaim me. Stay out of the hook shots.

@ kingpin

its not that u didnt own with this hero that it is a crappy guide. Can u plz tell me then what u disliked?

Cool guide. But i agree that the heroes you killed in the screenshots, well.. they look totally noob

Eh,@daqueer
why not you use pudge and try to fight against other sp-users. Seriously, a stradegy is flexsible, if you think your hp is low, just get bracers. EoS gives you stats. And wad's the use of more hp when pudge could easily hook you and dismember rot you to death. Pudge is obviously able to kill sp early game.

Cool!!! I like ur strategy. I tried the hero out and i owned the game. THX!!!

Whoa! I really liked ur guide! I followed it and I owned our game!!! And my teamates are very grateful for me!! At first, I really thought that Dazzle is a weak hero, but now, I think that he's a very cool support hero!

I believe that ur a dota pro. haha! Thnx!

u no!!! ur sreenshots sucks!!! maybe ur enemies are all just new bie or beginner!! waahhhh!!! if i am one of them!! like anti mage!! u cannot defeat me!!! wahhhh!!! u sucks!! bitch!! hahah!!

And still some people comment just here to show off... isn't that right, marclood@yahoo.com?

@ all others

ty have fun playing.
looking forward to make my second guide.

Sweet Guide man. Always wanted to make that Cuirass on him, but never manage to.

Sweet Guide man. Always wanted to make that Cuirass on him, but never manage to.

good guide but, a deso first would be better than a mek, since you are very powerful early game

@ all those who say they tried using this guide 3-4 times and sucked...

hahaha... cmon! it couldn't have been that bad! or maybe you just played dazzle poorly... dont aim to be a killer... do what you do best! support your carry hero! dont aspire to be a hero's hero... man complaining about low hp and this guy.. blame ice frog 4 that! haha joke only...

usually when i play dazzle i end up with lots of support items in mid game then start supplying my teammates with items at around 40mins... thats how i play my dazzle...

@greater bash
yeah lets see them create a guide... i doubt if it will even get approved...

@all those saying the screenies suck...

hahaha you see the picture as a way of owning heroes... the screenies are for showing how to use the skills in a game... not just with magina(or AI for that matter)... and

read up and be informed!

Awsome strat Truned dazzle from a hero I'd repick into one I ask for. thx man 10/10

every time i play Dazzle i get mek, deso, something for hp maybe skadi or bloodstone,then mbk and if ur game lasts assult

This is a noob guide.

as quoted from my Geography teacher " There are only dead Heroes" so if your dazzle might as well stay alive and help other and get kills alone the way. I personally like this start

that was awesome

ty don't forget to rate^^

Cool Guide. Now i noe that dazzle can be a gay .lol and anyway i saw a lot of dazzle buy deso. So which is better?

@xiiaoxiaoboii

This question is asked a lot. But i will prefer Skadi. Why? Because u have low hp. The states u get from this item will pump it up. Also u get +25 damage from this item and a slow effect.
If u choose desolator then u will still have very low hp, even in lategame. The armor reduced is nice but tell me what do u like the most? Slowing a hero down so u can kill him with ure allies or attack him with ure nice attack and armor reduced from desolator and let him slip away if he is running?

my name is david tsang, i really love dota , ive been playin for 1 week, i love you stretagy.....by the way, the screenshot of the razor is probably me, because i remember facing mickey_TiTi.. I died like 23 times in that game,,sigh... i think i fed you too much, tats how u get nice items ..:(

davidtsang hi my friend dont know if it is you im facing but this will confirm it. My ally was weaver so if u remember him it was u who is was facing^^ still friends i never saw u play dota again. don't forget to whisper me when u are online^^

and no it werent 23 dies, i saw replay and it was only 6 or 7

@ penisman

jaja tis al goed zer maak zelf een strategie he as ge het beter kunt.
de mijne is tenminste toegelate. kvraag me af of uwe ooit zal toegelate worde als gij een strategie maakt

Oh snap, swear at him in a different language so he doesn't know how to respond... nicely done!
I notice nobody is actually saying why they think its a bad guide? Maybe nobody wants to admit that their sole reason for disliking this guide is that they can't use it!!

@anyone who thinks this is a piece of sh!t
I am going to submit my Puck's guide but seeing what is happening to this guide really cracks me up... Greater Bash has tried hard and done his job very nicely and what he got ? A low rating and very i-s-u-l-t-i-n-g words. Please, your act of madness is preventing the guide makers like us from doing our best or giving our opinion...
@Greater Bash
Good job! 10/10! I think you need to pay no attention for those rubbish guys, there is a bunch of them out there, you cut down 1 and there will be 2 rising back to hurt you.

If there are obscene comments or IDs please report it to us ASAP. As you know we can't be everywhere so you can help keep an extra eye.

I'd put Stygian Desolator in the item list as well as Orchid Malevolance. Those items make Dazzle very dangerous since he already has an armor decreasing skill. You'll be amazed how much damage a priest can deal with those.

Ty Shimrra_3 and EniXBlaze

Ofcoure i pay no attention to these sort of guys and they will not let me unfinish my second strategy i am making now. Be sure to submit your puck strategy. Its all about this: these guys always lose at dota and now they want to insult us because they followed the strategy of us and they didnt own. They don't even know that the highest property of playing dota is practice skill and teamplay

Thx again, looking forward to see your guide!

I think you are lucky facing a fool Magina. Very very fool Magina.

If he has Cranium Bashers, you will be often stunned.

And also, when Magina thinks his HP is red, he should blink himself. "Blink" ability is one of the most useful skill in DotA. That Magina was a stupid one.

Very stu-f*c**ng-pid.

I think you are lucky facing a fool Magina. Very very fool Magina.

If he has Cranium Bashers, you will be often stunned.

And also, when Magina thinks his HP is red, he should blink himself. "Blink" ability is one of the most useful skill in DotA. That Magina was a stupid one.

Very stu-f*c**ng-pid.

Imo, low level equals no Bashers. Go figure he's going to stick around if he thinks Dazzle is going to die in a coupla hits and hes not (prior to heal), and then his reflexes just suck or hes stunned into incomprehension by the (predictable) turn of events.
Also imo, you're basing a perfectly good guide off of screenshots only, and by this I mean your misguided interpretation of them.
Although I'll note you didn't actually flame the guide or anything... wait isn't that called trolling (and bannable? *gasp*)?

Frankly... I really liked the guide.

it was very detailed, very descriptive...all around good hard work. (can't believe i just said that...about a guide for a game )

anyways.

I'm trying the idea out today...will rate later... and no... I won't be like NO I DIDN'T OWN...BLAME THE GUIDE!

but for right now... I'm seeing.. 9/10.

This is sad. Dazzle isn't the easiest to play, so if you phail getting your usual killing streak using him, it's not the guide's fault, Dazzle isn't meant to shine as a herokiller. Tree stars for this? BS!

I think some people don't know the diffirences between support hero or herokiller

If u all dislike the strategys rating plz help me 2 rise it

Never play 1v1 with Dazzle. He’s not a hero that will own alone in late-game.

He needs 1 ally! Mainly he is a support hero! Don’t forget it!

will do!

whooh this is the strategy that i've been searching for.. nice one dude..
detailed...

how about a no.

I like necromonicon so kindly add it, tnx.!

If most of teh people are rating this high...hjow come its stars are low. Still, was that Magina a BIG NOOB? I mean, hes got half hp, you got full, you got many creeps. And he attacks u??? WTH@
And he didnt even learn from his mistakes. By the way, razor should be able to pwn dazzle if he was as farmed as u. And he should fight u up close for ulti.. 9/10

Note, support hero...

I randomed KOTL and got 13-9, the only positive score on my team, won the game for us. I was shocked, seeing as I hated KOTL (until then obviously). A day or two later I got him 1-3 but ended the game about three times as fast and I felt I did much better support. Which game was better? I think the second because I fulfilled KOTL's primary role better.

Apply to Dazzle as well methinks. He is a damn support hero... so support. Don't try and wipe everyone out.

NICE NICE NICE strat..

Dazzle and Pugna partners in lane, we wacked two towers by level 7.. duh.. I love dazzle

"(so -> 4 targets -> 140 damage each -> 560 damage)"
I am 100% sure the dmg for shadow weave dose not stack. Max any unit can recieve is 140; unlike chain lighing, the heal occurs all at once, where as chain lighning it jumps. Since it heals all at once it can only make one dmg to one unit; therefore it can only make 140 dmg.

Well I'm sure I've seen someone take about 400 from this so no... I'm not even delving into rules or anything, I know what I saw.

if there is 1 enemy and he is fighting 4 creeps
u cast shadow wave on them... every creep does 140 damage to the enemy then

-.- lol . this type of preist sucks .. try playing in LANCRAFT and not bnet u choob preist.

Anyone feel like deciphering that post please tell me...

y he has got a strange language^^

hey bash, just wanted to say not to worry so much about the comments and ratings. write the guide and the people who understand this game will give props when its due, and sadly the noobs who actually NEED the help of guides anyway, will post some crap that you see here.10 for effort, 9 for substance and an 11 for responding in the calm demeanor to some of the flaming.

Don't forget to put techies on your allies!!
Anyway, great guide you have here 9/10.

@coincide and greater bash

The dmg dun add up like that, i was using dazzle recently and a similar event occured the was about 6-8 creeps around an Bradwarchief (that horse tank guy) he had about 300 hp and i healed myslef and the creeps around him he had about 100 hp left i had to make 2 shots to finish him off.

Btw nice guide 9/10

Great that you know that dazzle's a support hero. Which is a little hypocritical, when referred to your title. But... I'll say shiva's should come earlier. It's really important for dazzle. I was about to give you a 10/10 but then I realised something... Where's your escape plan? No blink dagger??? I would've thought that'll be a must have for dazzle. But that's just a suggestion. Great guide still

What is the use of shallow grave?? pls. answer me!!^^

if dazzle casted shallow grave on you, when u die u wont lose any gold u have and also u will revive much faster, but thats not all. when u die, the hero or unit who killed u will get damaged.

Hey can u please revise your 2nd and 3rd skill again? I think u mentioned that u'll use Weave to "tank" in AoE spells??? Does amount of amour (not type) determine magic damage? And from your Shadow Wave comment, i concluded that the dissipated damaged from healing your allies are both physical and magic damage, as you said amour and magic resistance. Please comfirm what u really meant. Thks.
Er, from my experience, unless the person playing AM is a complete noob about Priest, he will not risk himself to be surronded by his opp creeps. Yeah, just my 2 cents

so many comments now some are proposing absurd stuffs

prefect camp is over, at last T_T

How come Dazzle do not have Bassilus in early and mid game except on 5 v5 ????
I'd like to have RoB and ironwood and a tango in 4v4 or RoB and 3 ironwood and 2 flask and 2 clarity on 3v3

explain why RoB is good on him. he hardly suffers any mana problem due to high high in gain

u said what i was going to say :)

what has happened to my screenshots? do u guys see it 2 or is it just me?

I think your account has too many pictures......better ask the graphics pro because I'm not that good with photos anyway.

wow... this guide is at least 4 stars, but its still 3...

i deleted all my pictures but do u guys also see where my screenshots belong
"upgrade to pro today" and all that other stuff!"

cause i wanna get rid of it

i mean my pictures for photobucket not the one in my strategy

ERRORS about screenshots are fixed!

Eww, umm photobucket really screwed me over. I basically sat there (and yelled at it) for a week or two then changed to imageshack which hasn't screwed me yet. Meh I would love to have fixed imageshack's pics to work properly like you seem to have lol.

It's amazing how this guide remains at 3 stars when it clearly deserves either 4-5

@ Shimrra_3

u had the same problem as me?
what i did was deleted the pictures from my strategy and replaced them with the uploads from imageshack. Did u do the same?Otherwise i maybe can help u to search for a solution.

personally, after i would get key items for daz (guinsoo, skadi, bot) i'd go for a refresher orb. I think it have alot more uses than AC as shallow grave has a huge effect late game. apecially when half your team revives in half the time as your opponents.

Solid strat though, 9/10

it was a blast reading your strategy i'll try him more than often now.. was never a fan of support hero until now

Magina killed by Dazzle? You got to be kidding me?! That Magina surely sucks a lot.

I don't find your item build impressive. Sure there are good items, but it lacks an item for escaping (Lothar's Edge or Kelen's Dagger of Escape perhaps?).

And you may want to try Stygian Desolator for Dazzle. Just try it, and you will be surprised

Anyway, it's a nice strategy. Good enough for Dazzle to at least survive the game.

I don't like Dazzle very much, because he is such a hero that always needs an other hero in the erea around him (exept when he's fed by lucky kills). At the begin of the game Dazzle is a good hero thanks to his healing, but later on he sucks...

expressing emotions? what do you find hard with dazzle? perhaps youre playing him as a tank?

WTH?
since WHEN THIS BECOME 3 STARS ONLY???
people are getting blinder, symptoms include that they do not know which is a good guide and how to play the hero the right way

good wOrk... i planned to use dazzle nOw..hEhe!! cOntinue shAring ur knOwledge!! tnx!!

can he get skadi boots and meka at a lower level?.. i think 19 is a bit late.. anyway, its a good guide

im tring this out right now never thought dazzle was worth a shot

I'm sure people have agreed and disagreed on this, but desolater is very nice. with weave AND desolater AND assault curiass.... 17 + 5 + 6 is it? haha... that's a lot of ouch for anyone. I get desolater, hyperstone, then assault curiass, if you're worried about low stats don't solo, he's a support hero too right?

i tried your guide, and. It rocks!

nice strats :) i want to give 9/10 .. but 10/10 is better

I ussualy start with PT and desolator and Dazzle will be a nice killer

ty all

enjoin playing with him

enjoy i mean

ALSO. I should've put this in before.. but lets say you're arguing for int items instead of damage items if you're making the killer build. Staff of wizardry is 1k-ish and gives 10 mana or 10 damage. a hammer is 1.6k and gives MORE than 16 damage.
Who needs mana with his insane int growth? And let's be real, nobody likes seeing the desolater animation coming at them. Am I right or am I right?

AH!! I mean 10 INT not 10 MANA crap crap
*flame shield up*

uhu i see ure point... but whats the big deal if u have an awesome att if u can't stand longer then 5 sec on battlefield because ure stats are to low
staff of wizardy is only purchased to complete guinsoo

I'm back after trying out this guide... and I must say... it worked wonders.

but now I'm disappointed.
after being gone from this board so long.. I look back and there are so many noobs posting stupid comments! and making this guide lose its deserved rating!

ATTENTION ALL NON-EXPERIENCED DOTA PLAYERS THIS IS FOR YOU:
It doesn't matter how many heros you kill. it really doesn't. now it will give you gold... and thats nice... but the OBJECTIVE of the game... is to destroy the Throne. so in this case... destroy tower and push throne. one should realize this as soon as possible.

DAZZLE IS A GOOD PUSHER! he keeps the creeps alive... he doesn't need to kill alot of heroes... he helps Night Stalker, Void, and Troll do all the hero killing.

Don't blame the guide cause you're too stupid to realize this

now i cast my rating.

10/10

Dazzle is a very good hero. Even if many thinks he sucks. :s

nice strat for priest....I'll try to use it nxt time!

I disagree that Dazzle cannot survive on 1 on 1 battles...

Here's my Build

Deso
Threads
(considering the new map versions)
Vanguard
Shiva
Radiance (optional if reached late game)
And anything that can increase HP

Well you judge...

I disagree that Dazzle cannot survive on 1 on 1 battles...

Here's my Build

Deso
Threads
(considering the new map versions)
Vanguard
Shiva
Radiance (optional if reached late game)
And anything that can increase HP

Well you judge...

This guide focuses on playing 5v5 mostly with the item purchases in early- mid- and late game. Of course Dazzle can own a 1v1 but u must have farmed a lot then and there are many but i mean MANY heroes who can win off him if they farmed also very well.

sup all..... pretty good strat i play him similar cept a little more on the offensive side... i think dazzle could own 1v1 ive done it b4... he doesnt need a ally to rape anyone because of his support spells on him that make him a insainly buff hero.... btw meepo and dazzle unstoppable combo.... heal with all 4 meepos around him and perma net= gg

@181
first of all, vanguard and radiance is no late game items,
second, you have no survivability items that can be considered good. you have armor but no hp
3rd, anything that can increase hp? how's branch for late game?

Oh yeah. the person who was talking about the skadi thingy about razor

if you look closely at his SS'es

he doesn't have skadi then

Great strat 10/10

very detailed too =]

Like... WTFBBQISWRONGWITHYOU? Your going for Skadi and you say your a support... Wash ur mouth with soap please, most games with this guy i end up being with the top hero kill score and imba dps... Skadi, Gsoo, Treads, Orchid, Divine, Bfly

dencent for support but dazzle can also own 1on1 so there is inaccuracy there. Mek is pointless. Delaying your death by 250hp for 3k gold is not worth it. I'd get desolator, treads, guinsoo,curiass

and buriza

@lion
mek isn't worth it? i find it favorite item in competitive games. 250 hp heal is shit? its AoE sucker, so that is a potential 1250 heal team game to heroes, not to mention creeps. why the hell would frog give chen a healing ultimate?

wow nmn..shit i believe i can be a good fighter with the dotastrategy.com
tnx dotastrategy...

4 star
keep on good votes
perhaps i should make multiple accounts
lol, thats retarded

y indeed finally 4 stars

that magina [or maginas] in ur screenshots is [or are] a noob [or noobs] indeed, but ur guide is ok, however, about the way u use weave to stand in the middle of lotta AoE spells, isn't it foolish? what good does it make, increasing ur own armor to stand against spells, i think u should erase that kind of way. armor mitigates normal attacks [maybe some kind of spells] while spells mitigated by either natural magic reduction, skills, or hoods. i don't think that u don't know bout this but maybe u forget.

today withshadow priest i got 8-3! And even a double kill o.O. I supported my team and me and veno slowed ftw. And also i healed my team from death the only time i ever got killed was coz of imba brood. I feel that dazzle can kill heros with supporting potencial. Sadly at the end of the game i never got my final build ( skadi) and never got to kill brood =(. But all in all i helped my team XD. Also lorderon people don't suck... Only MY XD. Americans worst. AT too pro others ok. AU ok but better than MY XD. But ya dazzle owns.slow and heal ftw people!

sorry the AT is ment to be SG coz i typed this on my itouch. Lol. Um ya SG 4life

@186

Please, tell me how skadi isn't supportive for your team. Slowing your opponent so your team mates can gang on him isn't helpful or supportive? Or how about the fact that skadi makes Dazzle harder to kill, so he can stay around longer for the team? That's not helpful?

@186

Please, tell me how skadi isn't supportive for your team. Slowing your opponent so your team mates can gang on him isn't helpful or supportive? Or how about the fact that skadi makes Dazzle harder to kill, so he can stay around longer for the team? That's not helpful?

Skadi makes you a killing machine... And you dont realy need your team nearby anymore... Sure it's abit of support but.. Not focus support... Get it?

Nice!!! I tried using dazzle before but never thought that it was that powerful. got me tempted to use dazzle again.. Nice strat

Hm...this is very good. I don't know why people have a beef with it.

Usually, the only question I have when I use Dazzle is: Skadi, or Deso? I usually get Deso and build up HP with a HoT - the poison is enough of a slow.
Since you advocate Cuirass, I'd imagine you'd need some DPS to go with all that IAS.

I do think they need to extend the time for Shallow Grave, maybe 6-8 minutes. It used to be unlimited...those were the days...

rectracting on my thoughts for a dagger

rush necro instead

naga also is a good ally with diffusal blade 6 more naga surrounding an enemy snared with a net, and it is the perfect moment for heal wave ^^

yep i mentioned her also in my allies section :) as disabler but i didnt thought of shadow wave illusions

Can't think of everything

Very nice strat....
I agree that dazzle is a supporthero not herokiller...

But if you wanna make him to become a herokiller why don't you go for a dagon?

Man, with your weave, dagon 1 will do a lot more damage than 400.

Very nice strat....
I agree that dazzle is a supporthero not herokiller...

But if you wanna make him to become a herokiller why don't you go for a dagon?

Man, with your weave, dagon 1 will do a lot more damage than 400.

physical resistance does not affect magical resistance

With an Intelligence gain as that all you need is an orchid, some Power Treads, and Maelstrom or Mjollnir and it's bye bye enemy team

explain the mjolnir having synergy with high int gain and the ability of a single support hero saying bye2 to the opposing team. or they say bye bye to you

^ok, I will, first off I buy the power treads mainly for increased AS, the orchis is a great item; why? because it adds a beautiful 60 dmg to your already high-damage Shadow priest along with a +30% AS. now that you are a decent DPS hero you realize that you don't have any nukes, so you ask yourself what would work as a nuke spell...a dagon maybe? no that's too expensive for what it offers 8400 gold for a mere 800 damage (non pure of course since the enemy has armor) . NO. Your best choice would be something that takes advantage of your good AS (Maelstrom) and by upgrading it to Mjollnir you gain imba AS and more damage which helps you becaome a formidable Damage Per Second hero (not to mention you now have static charge and chain lightning as passive nukes)

^^I also forgot to mention that Mjollnir's +35 agility gives you a +7 armor that stacks (you can synergize) with Weave

@ scar_mory

personally i don't love dagon, the money u have to pay for it and for what u get i think isnt enough. Also i would buy more suppot items. Let ure friends get the kills and it's ure task to help ure allies with it. Let's see who is the best appreciated in a dotagame.
The good supporter or the herokiller

This is a really good strat, and how lucky am i? ITS ON MY FAVORITE HERO!!!!

Thankz for guides now i know what can i build for DS Thankz

@the guy i forget that recommend mjolnir
wow how come i forget mjolnir owns cause it adds damage and agility as well as armor. ever heard of support role? ever heard of disabling item which is better than orchid? ever heard of cost? ever heard of ganking? ever heard of armor adds nothing to SHP(spell hit points).

your points doesn't make sense. for what do he need to deal much damage for? HE IS A SUPPORT GOD DAMNIT SEE HIS SKILLS. HEAL? ARMOR BUUF/DEBUFF? NO GOLD LOST AND FASTER REVIVING? LOW DAMAGE SINGLE TARGER SLOW? GET AN IDEA ON HOW TO REALLY PLAY HIM.

@Counter_Force[X]

First of all please stop using capitals.
Second you must have understood absolutely nothing from what I said, I build my SP as a DPS hero NOT a support hero, I use SP's skills on himself Weave for personal armor, Poison touch for bugging other heroes and for killing fleeing heroes, Shadow wave to heal myself for staying long in the lane instead of going back to the fountain, Shallow Grave helps with completing your item build faster.

And at he end of my post I have two things to say to you; 1) When you're a strong hero you DO support your team by killing enemy heroes, pushing lanes, and destroying towers..........and 2) Don't criticize my build till you try it, if you're too unsure of it try it in a noob game or under a different account but until you try it you can't criticize it

a support hero by nature, will always tend to be used as a support hero, and many people will agree. make a guide using mjolnir for dazzle and see what i mean

sry btw for 2x post but i have never tried it on dazzle, but on ezalor yes as well as THD

I own with the help of this tut.. Good Job!

I must say wd on this guide :D
This is 1 off my fav heroes 2 play so im gonna try this build.I usually go mkb satanic beacause his base damage lvl 25 is 120-140.But wd on the guide keep it up :)

Great guide on a great supporter. The item build is good, as is the guide itself. Might be worth getting Eul's scepter of divinity for more survival early. But I have only tested that a few times. Keep up the good work.

y i know eul is a good item for him know but don't forget i made this guide in the time of 6.49b

Eul is very good on this hero now, then he got 2 disables

changed my perspective. hhehe. good job!

Well, I have no idea why this guide is getting less than 5 stars. This is a solid Dazzle build. Assault can work well, but it is not "support" but DPS Dazzle. So, to stick to support, I'd replace with Shiva.

Still, Dazzle can easily go DPS with Deso/Assault/Weave. This guide is solid in showing the support Dazzle.

9/10. There's not much strategy in here, but then again, there's not much strategy to Dazzle. BTW, Wave is great for farming and even killing, sometimes.

Woah awsome strat, a refresher would be good for shallow grave and exra regen, but i understand thatit wouldnt really help u with ur cool combo u got going on there lol.

Lmao, i always own mid/lategame with Dazzle. He's my next-favorite int.

u don't really focus with his ulti heh, and i think dagon 5 - super helpful
ok guide 8/10

MAN LOVE THIS HERO :)and u maid it better! THANKS SO MUCH!

Ty all

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cool

gling gling

d best!!

as far as i have seen in this guide till now is that there are good comments and bad comments

think the next update is in march that you might have to do Greater Bash

Y MEKANSM wtf u already have shadow wave

So what u are saying is if u already have a heal it is noob to buy mekansm?

Uhm lets see i don't think any good dotaplayer would agree with ure statement. Im sry to say this.

why get damage on mortred when you already have 4x crit?

try also using deso and mkb for dazzle

nice.. nothing to say.. just a 10/10 rating

Ty

bad item choice go stygan assault for massive armor decrease and as for when hes slowed w/ poisen touch and maybe even consider a euls for ms and cyclone to let ur poisen touch's cd diminish so u can use again for the killer combo.

read the other post first plz it is already argumented why not stygian desolater.

nice guide
Dazzel isn't just a healer, his appearance actually comes in handy in combat!

ty

Nice strat

i want using dazzle now !

Have fun playing him

wkwkwkwkwkwk its so swt

GG

Well ty :)

PS: i knew what u said

Y not a sobi mask of RoB at first?

because it's near useless compared to rushing mek?

i usally prefer stygian and using weave a lot instead of skadi

WTF IS THIS
JUST RUSH RAPIER
GG

^pretty much a loser to me
what is this 6.27?

just a question, does the units healed by shadow wave need to be beside the unit or hero to cause damage? or is there AoE?

Yes they need to be beside them because the damage range of shadow wave is very small.

this strategy own .

i play using this guild ,

wei win , i don have to pawn .

just SUPPORT . this guide is made to SUPPORT . not hero killing noob jerk ass who said this is a noob guide .

10/10 .

Nice boy. Like the killer dazzle

Actually should be stygian desolater...not eye of skadi(for me)
because got shadow priest weave
& i think slardar is the best ally for dazzle..(both can reduce armor)

lol u didnt include the poison + weave combo.

i did read again

hey! my priest is not a supporter! he's a killer! i don't know why? but i triple killed centaur, axe, and traxex!

IM STRONG RIGHT? no joke!

you didnt play against AI's right?

That would be an anti-climax

Nice strategy!Make one again but now about RHASTA^^

i would like to make a guide about rhasta but then again their are already 4 strategies and i don't think i can submit one