Troll Warfreak

you don't actually need lothar's get a dagger or burize instead. My build will be "tread,dagger,basher,3 burize". It's hard to farm those i know. But once you blink into any hero and start your rampage, he'll be most probably, dead.

Don't use to cranium bashers, perma bashes dont stack, you would be better of with burize.

This is a fairly good guide. The item build is fine, but I'm no fan of S&Y for him. The skill build is rather unfocused, and I disagree on getting Berserker Rage early. Whatever happens, ranged is still better than melee. Also, you won't be able to score Bash until you have fairly decent attack speed. So IMO Fervor should be maxed out first so that Berserker Rage becomes more effective. To the poster above me, Bash stacks diminishingly, so Berserker Rage + 2 Cranium Bashers = around 35% to 36% chance to Bash. That's one out of three attacks, so very few opponents can run away especially if you have Rampage on.

hmm, i like to max out fervor and blind first. blind is pretty useful in the early game with its low cool down and mana cost. you can spam this to irritate opponents - it's pretty hard to get the last hits/ deny when you're missing half the time. fervor should be first priority though. anyway, i like to go straight to bashers too. once you get two bashers, i usually go aegis or buriza. it's a good guide over all though, kudos :p

fervor are the most importance skill for Troll Warlord laaa. Without it warlord are nothing.

my build for jah is treads, basher, basher, butterfly, skadi, and hyperstone,aegis, buriza, heart.. w/e the situation requires or is allowed buy my money. All the items are for the perma stun and aspd and the skadi is for that .000000000000000000000001 chance that they actually escape your perma stun, theyll b slow so you can run up and bash him again

haha i think skadi is a bit of an overkill.

why don't buy the new item Mjollnir
it's attack speed so fast
and i think should buy a dagger of escape because if creeps block your way
to kill a hero
and buy range ice of skaddi to slow hero

hmmm..nice guide really is...but i dont think having battlefury on him..rather, i'd go for threads, satanic, vanguard, basher, butterfly and buriza and just switch to berserker rage so u'll have higher base damage and big chance to bash enemy heroes...incase the enemy hero is running away bcz of low life u can just simply switch back to range so u can hit them while on the run ...NOTE if u think having buriza in your build is expensive...jz buy crystalis first for the critical hit..good combi w/basher while on rampage...finish buriza when u farmed well enough to buy demon and recipe..also goes to butterfly..buy eagle horn 1st to increase damage and atckspd

Nice build, but i prefer getting a heart instead of lothar's. With the S&Y basher build, you don't have to wind walk away man! Get him into melle form when these items are required and rampage is on and i tell you, the hero won't move anymore.

naix vs jarakal? whos the winner?

Naix vs troll? Definitely troll if you just know wat items to purchase me!!! I usually get lothar for escaping and sneaking!!! getting the melee skill is also useful bcoz it adds bash, here how it goes. lothar, 2 bashers, monkey or buriza and lastly valdmir(if you wanna go melee, again for the added bash) or helm of dominator for the lifesteal to go 1 on 1 with naix or any hero. tried it on B net and whenever i appear, enemies go crazy and scatter like insects. they dont wanna get killed but in the end!!! double kill, 3 kill... whatever!!! bwahahahh

best strategy of the 3 by FAR!

whenever i use jahrakal pudge always kills me with its hook. any strat guys?

just build a maelstrom for an easy farming ^_^ and a MoM ,its for a lifesteal and if 2 bashers are in the inventory,click the MoM and cast rampage,the opponent/s will become a statue ^_^

porma

I think the greater item for troll is Treads, Mjolnir, Cuirass, MKB, Vanguard, Butterfly, ASPD Madness!!!

The troll iss madness. You've proven what needed no proof. Congrats. Still, I think the PL would kick his ass if given the right chance. :)

basher build for jarax is not reasonable it will make your jarakal vulnerable for massive attacks

man i don't agree with u, ison. No offense but imagine troll warlord with 2 bashers n a hyperstone.. u can own anyone man..

Basher is the best way for perma stun... mayb get a MoM to stack with ur ulti only use if its u vs 1 or 2 ppl. btw bashers stack by half...

Wow... I don't know what to say.

Actually, yes I do.
You do know that when you say that by the end of mid game (6-11) that you are supposed to have: 1. Power treads 2. Perseverance 3. S&Y 4. Cranium Basher 5. wraith band 6. wraith band

That accumulates to : 12545 gold.
All I know is, I don't think in my entire DotA career, that I have been fed so much that by level 11 I went back to fountain to spend 12k gold........
You should: switch the
"1. Power treads 2. Perseverance 3. S&Y 4. Cranium Basher 5. wraith band 6. wraith band" part to late game, and then the whole explanation of the attack plan to conclusion or an entire different section of the guide.. could use a lot of work, 1/10

I prefer to get treads and fervor maxed out first for insane early-game farming and denying, then get rage and build your bashers for mid-game dominance. I disagree strongly with your perserverance because if you use my skill build your mana pool should easily be deep enough and you can save for better regen items.

Good guide, but I would prefer Treads,2xBasher,dagger,burize and hyper.. = Pwns

getting fervor at a lol level is quite a disadvantage. Fervor makes u push harder at earlier games, which makes troll vulnerable for a gank in early gamw hich is when troll warlord is extremely powerless

my kind of build, but if its against bradwarden(2 HoT,Satanic,BoT,2 Blademail,Cuirass) ouch!!! wat would be your build?

my kind of build, but if its against bradwarden(2 HoT,Satanic,BoT,2 Blademail,Cuirass) ouch!!! wat would be your build?

Nice, the guide is pretty good, and it is pretty stock standard and what i do normally. The guy above me is a total idiot.. you have 7 items against Bradwarden a?

i reckon u should get a M.O.M

Hey.. You Dun Need Assault C. anymore.. For Me, i always see wat my opponent.. lets say pudge.. lvl 6-11 he will be hooking you.. is ok.. get linken to avoid pudge december.. my item build

1. Power Thread
2. Basher
3. Helm Dominator (satanic)
4. Basher
5. Butterfly
6. Linken (for stunner or any mage)(optional)
7. Buriza
8. Mkb

This could help alot..

(encountering Tanker)
get more damage, 2 basher and lifesteal.. so u wont die

(nukers)
example like slayer.. get linken is good.. and hood if u wan.. get butterfly, 2basher would be enough

(invincible hero)
like bone.. he walk very fast.. so u need a UNLIMITED STUN.. get fast attacking item.. monkey, 2 basher, mask madness would be enough..

this just comment.. TROLL OWNS!

p.s
troll is for fast farmer.. is u cant farm.. u will be left a pig.. during 5 on 5 situation fyi..

your a cock and a half cheapp bastard

@ kevintroy6666, monkey and bashers? an extreme no no for any hero. the monkey bar ,which procs way more often, 30%, than one basher, will cancel out the 1.1 sec stun or the 2 sec stun from berserkers rage. So, other wise, this guide is lacking and for some reason DS wont let me create a new troll guide. the hero isnt even on the choice list for creating a guide. 3/10.

My items wud b Treads, Satanic, Burize, Buterfly, and nyothr damagin items...mkb..or nothr burize..lvl 25 wit 2 mkbs its permabash 4 troll..and wit satanic ur lyk regeneratin 23%of around 250 dmge or more...sme go for divine...evn betr if ur a gud farmer..

trool dont need sny its a total waste people get it on almsot everyone i think it is a waste. use the orb effect for lifesteal. if you already have 2 bashers and beserker rage u have like a 35% bash rate so maiming them is worthless. satanic you can kill people with red hp. and the 25 str is like 500 hp. if u dont farm well i say get a MoM cuz its also like a rampage. also u dont need bashers its a waste of 3k per basher so u could have bruiza for the money u spent of bashers or btfy

Nifty guide.

u said maxing fervor in early game isn't a wise thing.but , u still maxed it out , o.0 , u got to make sense man ..

i think
2 bashers
butterfly
skadi..if possible
and 2 vanguards for life

just try it

and i forget maybe a madness for extended rampage and lifesteal as well

bashers are for gay only... jaras level 3 rampage dont nid bashers? try having buriz instead.. and hav a pretty large HP..

IT'S SIMPLE. IF YOU ARE A NOOB RETARD THAT WANTS TO SLAY OTHER NOOBS THEN GET BASHERS. BASHER IS A VERY 1V1 ITEM. DOTA IS A TEAM SPORT. ANY TEAM WORK WILL MASSACRE YOU. BASHER IS FOR UNTALLENTED, UNIMAGINITIVE MORON, IT IS ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE 10000 BASHER BFLY GUIDES FOR ANTIMAGE. HOW MORON ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE CREATING """NEW""" HERO GUIDES WHEN THEY ARE ALL THE SAME : TREAD, 2 BASHER, AND OTHER GARBAGE RELATED.

IF I SEE ANOTHER BASHER GUIDE FOR TROLL I WILL SERIOUSLY WRITE A 3 SCEPTER, 2 BOTTLE - SHEEPSTICK BUILD FOR TROLL.

YOU MORON NOOBS. BASHER. PFFFT.

PISS OFF

i disagree.... max up fervor n blind to attain the speed n tactic in order to finish of heroes at an early level if u can.... after that u max up the 1st skill when ur lyk level 18 for the finishing touch.... max up rampage before max up berzeker's rage....

fervor important lol.......then maxed it with assault cuirass n YOUR CREEPS ATK LIKE A MACHINE GUN!!!

noob build lahz... quit dota la... noob

noob build lahz... quit dota la... noob

lol 2 basher and satanic is the best for jahrakal

EXELENT I LOOOOOOOOOOVE TROLL WARLORD.
ONCE YOU ENGAGED HIM WITH ONLY 1 BASHER HE CANNOT MOVE I FRAKING AWESOME. I WOUL RECOMEND LIFSTEAL (VALDIMIR, OR HEL OF DOMINATOR) AS YOU HIT REAL FAST YOU WONT LOOSE ANY LIFE TAKE IN ACCOUNT MY COMENT. LIFESTEAL I GREAT 4 HIM

BASHER DONT STACK ANY MORE SO STOP SAYING BUY BASHER

how 'bout butterfly,treads,satanic,burize and mkb?

Troll dont need Sny,jus get stanic and double basher then u can own them.lothar is also not so important.

tnx

troll is my favorite hero when you have 2 bashers and you bash your enemy ones he cant escape now.

UNA MIERDA ERES UN POBRE VOLUDO EN DOTAS NO SABES MADRE
TE EQUIVOCASTE EN TODO

well, u dont need sange and yasha if u would have 2 bashers.... and lothar's is a non-necessary item, except of that things the strategy are good...

@ Robo.CUP

If you don't like guides like these then why'd you even bother reading it and commenting? And what do you suggest as an item build? And why are you so mad? Poor guy. You must've been humiliated pretty badly in a DotA match to be in a mood like that.

What do ppl mean when they say "Bashers stack diminishingly"? For example, if i hav 3 bashers and a lvl4 1st skill. If undiminished, it should be 55% bash. But how much of that is diminished?

gravenalone is right about the Lothar's edge thing but what "I" think that is the best item build for him is:

Vladymir's Offering
The Butterfly
2x Cranium Basher
Power Threads
M'jollnir

nyahahahah ^^

perfect killer Troll Warlord (for me)

Pooor poor guideline ...... who ever created this was lame

the strategy is good.but this strategy not good as la.jah rakal must buy noy lothars egde,but butterfly and heart of tarassque.that inventory better than this inventory strategy...

skill build:1.fevor 2.blind 3.fevor 4.blind 5.fevor 6.rampage 7.fevor 8.blind 9.blind 10.stats 11.rampage 12.stats 13.stats 14.stats 15.stats 16.rampage 17-21.stats 22-25.berseker rage.that is a very good strategy skill build.Not like this skill build la.That will be a jahrakal so very weak!!!

hmm not a bad strategy at all..but i would suggest satanic for him because it gives him lifesteal and make him more crazy..battle fury and lothar make out good as well..can consider this as a new build for him, anyways nice guide!!

well for me, i would get satanic, power treads, 2x bashers, butterfly, hyperstone or buriza = OWN!!

Well i think ur build isn't that good. i think his skills would be fervor ,rage,fervor,rage,fervor,rampage,fervor,rage,rage... fervor first for attack speed to bash more i don't think S i A is needed and perseverance too just buy power treads 2x waith brand mid game 1 basher then 1 butter < late game and then if u can a second basher..

hehe what a build,nice though...

i've never tried this character yet.. so um,.. can you switch from ranged to melee.?

waaaaaaaaa pangit build mo hehe... ^_^

nt maxing fevour at early game is way lame i dun tink thats a good plan to take as attack speed is the MOST important element of the troll warlord

Sry man but i really DON'T like this tac at all. Fervor IS good early game, and bersekrs rage is nearly useless without attackspeed. I didn't know how you thought there.

Whoa sny for 1st item? and with lothars as the last item?

you guys know nothing, this is one of the cheapest heros to build and to start owning. Vanguard, boots of speed, cristalis and helm of dominator or vladimir and no 1 will even touch you. later upgrade to buriza, boots of travel, or whatever you will. Baashers are a waaste of money with troll, natural stun is enough and with the cristalis or buriza critical, 1 stun they get they are dead and you at full health.

its short but straight to the point... i like it... i think what really defines how good a player is is how good is his build is and how adaptable he is...

Hmm how about maxing bash, frenzy at the earliest levels, 2 levels of stats followed by fervour? Blind is the last thing I upgrade as it's not so useful, especially at the later stages...

you all is sick my item build is...

1.Boots of travel
2.2 Cranium basher
3.Mjonir
4.3 hyperstones

Thats all Jah'rakal is SERIAL KILLER wuahhhhhhhhh. LAST word. hello mga filipino may B net din ako kung makta niyo ako patay kayo

mmm, lothar? with the ulti you can flee a gank, and it's a carry hero, so he becomes quite fast imba :p. And to gank the ulti is enough, with SY and why not travel. He needs a butter and a buriza instead lothar.

my build is: treads, two bashers, satanic, butterfly, either anohter basher or buriza

Ok lets see...from a valid point of view
At lv25 he atks once evry 0.82 secs for 124-142 dmg and has 46% dmg reduction with 1841 hp(2687 hp in some ways with dmg reduction,and 3816hp from non spell,non armour cuting based dmg frm 1 hero (cus of 8 sec "blind" cool down)in sum ways wen u aply the 42%chance of them missing although this is not 100% acurate & aplys in 1v1 situations with no spel dmg Eg against straight foward melee heroes).

So realy judge ur build on situation, and pic ur batles

bashers is such a noob item

combination for troll is: helm of dominator-power treads-bash-satanic-yasha

hmmmm i like it huh......thats nc.....sometimes i use that like double basher...congats 4 u....