The Soul Keeper - Terrorblade(First Place Strategy Contest winner)

Very well done and thought, anti tank hero. . .10/10

two thumbs up !!!

woo i very love terror blade
thanks for the guide..
and congrats to you..

This is a 7 star strategy

Very nice strategy CFX

However as i play him i max out soul steal and metamorphosis first but hey thats just my opinion. It's great to stay alive at a lane because 40 hp/sec wont help u survive in a 1v1 battle.Its a bit to low.

Items are good just the same as mine actually. So that's a plus

Again very good guide. Nicely done.

Lol wtf? I gave this guide a 10. But who are the others that rated this guide so bad? Now i'm mad.

A 7 for this beautiful guide? Shame on yourself bad-guide raters!

-_- wow unbelievable I cant say anything anymore wow. KEEEP WORKING ON IT

like frostis tony would say, this strat is GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!

this is cooooool!!!! 10/10

a very complete guide 10/10 i'll try it out later. i just finish one myself 4:25 AM. took me ages. i had to rewrite early game 3 times. well i don't pretend to win any contest, im just hoping for its aproval =0D. is my first guide...

Haha... so you've proven your worthy guide writing skills eh?... This... isa truly and fully praise-able guide.. amazing explanation and details.. 10/10 no doubt from me... good one dude~!

@ IZE

for what hero u made (probably a good) guide

nice guide i needed a tb guide i thought the hero was a noob hero but now it's a very gd hero thnx for the strat i give u 10/10

thats soo very very fantast!c dud3!!!!!!!!!
k33p com!n up w!th th3s3 fanat!c !d3as!!!!!!!!!! awesom3 dud3!!!!! n on3 mor3 thing gr3at xplaining of ur v!3ws!!!!

@Greater Bash: You didn't give it a 10.

Genius, no other word for it. Good strat oh almost all aspects, 10/10.

@ drew

i didn't? what did i gave it then?

nce guide!

cheerz! GJ on the guide man!

LMAO! I give it a perfect 10. the way you wrote the guide was neat, with all the quotes "z0mg"

The way this is going this guide will reach the top 5 very soon.

Im glad to see this

awesome strat..ive been thinking for a while which build works best for tb ( sny,manta,skadi,dagon) and this seems to have convinced me...thx man 10 on 10

@Greater Bash: The lowest possible score.

thx men
i realy dont know how to thank u

About time this great piece of strategy hit the strategy section...
Well, I have nothing else to say but that it is a great strategy indeed... You show synergies, you explain most everything, all in all a great guide...
In case you haven't noticed, it's a 10/10 for me...

@ drew

Wtf? How is that possible i voted a 1?!
Im pretty sure i voted a 10 for this strategy. Missclick or something?!

Damn, that really is no fun to hear.
But ratings don't lie. Then i do my apology to CFX and i wish it will never happen again.

I have no reason to harm CFX strategy so if u all think i rated this strategy a 1 on purpose then ure thinking wrong.

Sorry again CFX! I am really sorry.

Grater bash ffs
Shame on yourself

btw
strat is nice

linkin and manta beat skadi anyday

Great Strategy! It points out main things like lanes to go in instead of making you read until you find it. 10/10

@GB: Ok I believe ya. Vote again. This time rate it like you mean it.

This strategy is going straight to the top. I love it, it makes me wanna play TB every time i read it. I

Its a well thought out strategy, but it doesn't really bring any new way to play tb. And if this strategy is going to be some kind of contest winner than i would at least expect some ingame pictures or something to put it over the top. 7/10

nice guide.. very well detailed....
just add pics there for the extra touches and it can compete in the best strats here... GJ there bro... congrats

i rated again and this time drew u can see i mean it giving this guide a 10

good guide!

Worthy of being the first place strategy winner!

Hmmm. Great guide. In depth and well-explained. We were throwing around this exact same build in the VIP section a while back, but no one wrote a guide on it.

However, I found it hard to read. Too many abbreviations for a guide, and when you wrote DW instead of WD once, that almost completely threw me off, there were already a lot to begin with. Also, there's more about Necro in it than I cared for, and not necessarily related to Scythe/Sunder.

In the end, great guide, 9/10.

Great guide, incredibly complete. I can see all the time and effort you have put in to this.

BTW, at staff:

The new character limit is probably a good thing. But, I've noticed that if someone makes one comment, and then immediately posts another, the character limit doesn't apply to the 2nd comment. Just an FYI.

@ Greater Bash

I saw some Rexxar guides and i didnt like them so i wrote one myself

one word.
AMAZING!

I didn't get the suicide comment on the boots, was that a joke?

wow ur pretty bossy haha..
but nice guide ilike it ^_^

nice, i needed a guide for Terrorblade

10/10

DO NOT USE THIS TO HELP ALLIES, EVER

rofl.
sweet guide man, ill give u 10 once i figure out how to vote

ahh... Finally a guide for TB. The other guides don't do a thing. This is an excellent guide. 12/10 if I could. But lol, I wished I understood some of your complex parts in the guide. Like as in, how to get kills. But you're right, TB is extremely hard to use, just like PoTm. I'll try out your strat. Nice work!

PS: Why'd you add metamorphosis at level 1?

Well my opinion is already expressed in the conclusion, but 10/10 anyway. TB is a tough hero for those who don't know how to play him and this guide has explained his abilities, items and tactics very well.

CF[X], I am sure I screwed a few things, I hope you edit this.

Oh and if he comes in here and goes 'WTF' then I am in trouble lol.

its good no doubt... :) love the detail put into it...

New SnY owns on TB.
EoS can suck it, meh, great guide.
Try Sny, Vlads..

lol to the guy above me vlads -.- dusnt work on meta.. and also mjollnor is a great item on TB i think but eos pwns it still. you say lifesteal is useless coz if u get desabled all the time...any1 is useless if they get disabled lol. i usually go

Eos
Eos
bfly
bfly
bot
buriza
1k crits :)

I rate this guide 0 out of 10.the maker of this guide is noob.wrong items wrong build.

nice

@olea69

Yeah....as if you could do better in writing a guide

@guide

Very good IMO, altho I'm not too happy to learn that my wtfomg HAX! build with manta is actually useless. Oh well we learn something new everyday. Good job, 10/10.

thanks to all positive feed backs

@GB
i never cared about ratings
@ntw
manta on tb kinda not worth it, low stats, as well as low chase synergy. mana regen from linkens is kinda overkill btw
@greedy
DW is death ward of WD XD, and since the strategy page says you are better to make it in ore length, i made some useless stuff

plsss retry new SnY, the new 16% seems kinda rock, i havent have time to test since the nearest comp available to play wc3 is 30km away.if its good, tell me

THANKS ALL!!

i cant thank shimmra enough, this guy is the real hero here. cheers dude for helping me

@GB
soul steal max eh? i never said it was bad, but simply maxing it early delays some very cunning trick you could spam like told in the guide. i love luring lane creeps with NC's when in the side lanes

upcoming updates will make sure there is no more abbreviations as i am also confused @@

@shimrra
how could i forgot
"WTF?"
joking

this is really a superb guide =3
10/10 man!

@Counter_Force[X]

-can you please post a picture of the iranians who died laughing? lol =3

well you can find it on google, but its kinda porn =X

nice one

very clear

unlike other's strat.

hehehe!!!

Great guide very precise but the item build is a little bit too costy

every great builds are costy, except for chen XD

pwnege stategy mega sumug

Realy NicE it s a realy graet strat i like very much :D:D Do some more good guides like this 10/10

@comment 33
i'm actually a very active player, only one reason could actually make me a not. take a guess? a hint? that is also the reason i couldn't get screenies

Not in trouble, ex-cell-ent! ^_^ My pleasure helping get this guide up.

its a great WOW!?...extraordinary strategy!?...commendable!?...(!?)

can do better to make it more n00b friendly by not putting temrs like cd (cooldown)

otherwise great strat!!!
10/10

nice?

I suggest you put in an extra section for the "jungle terrorblade".
Other then that 10/10 :D

i cant jungle, i was never able to jungle effectively. if you know how, be pleased to inform or PM and your name will be in the guide

yes can u put on the forest tb section ?

yes can u put on the forest tb section ?

i used this build / strat.
well, i just gained a Killing Spree,

but I 'carried' my team toi victory.

i suggest a part to counter my noob teammates saying "puro ka naman farm eh" :D haha.

overall, 10/10

carries doesnt have to be owning, they are builded to ensure victories

invoker is his slayer! INVOKER IS BEST!

at ^77
yah right... his the best...

oh come on......

Nice guide there 10/10

I suggest you put in an extra section for the "jungle terrorblade".
Other then that 10/10 :D

really nice and full guide. ill take in account this hero
see ya

10 points

i read elementos comment and cracked up simply brcause the BILL GATES build ussually dont get past the 3rd awsome item if the enemies arent noobs, but nice tb guide, kinda reminds me of piem0nger

I am sure, i will give this strategy only three words:

This
Is
Perfect!

congrats counter_force[x]!

Excellent guide with full explanation of everything. I dont mind if the item build isn't perfect and I dont agree, but your justification really got me going. Love it, Rated, and Favourited. 10/10

Can you Link ~fwii’s image guide somewhere I would really like to read it.

After roughly mastering TB. I brought your strat to the field. Though I got the most hero points, I didnt get the most kills. Why? Because everytime I attempted a gank, even on demon form with my clones and EoS, the enemy always runs faster than me. This kinda sucks. But yea, I'll try out guinsoo's. It might just help me alot since all I need is a disable

tnx for new idea pal..


i will try to bring it tot the battlefield!!!

10/10

now as for the jungling perhaps the best way to do it with TB (early game) is to micro an image to bait nearby n-creeps to near you allied creeps who will then auto attack them. make sure you do some fancy last hitting and you will gain alot more gold and Exp, this also pulls their creeps closer to your tower allowing for undeniable experience.
this works best on bottom lane for sentinel and top for scourge

unfortunately these are not your ideal lane selections.

(500 character max post)

mid-late game jungling with a hero such as TB means forbidding you allies to jungle in an area of 3-5 creepspawns then running a nicely planned circuit (ideally a nice big circle in the top scourge forest or bottom sentinel) if jungling bot and you want to kill ancients take the ones near roshan and if you war jungling top take the ones near the sentinal secret shop.

a great thing to do while jungling is say "AFK" then run around the forest unseen by enemies.

carries doenst have to be owning all time, winning dota isn't about how much you killed, it's the tree/throne that is the aim. to do that, you must be stronger than most heroes. yes, some heroes can escape easily, so be smart when choosing your ganking target, make sure he cant outsmart you. preferably an agi hero with low hp

@ghost
will put on those in next update, probabl 2 weeks more. malaysia is having a federal election by that time so im gonna have some free time. and those are my lanes

perhaps oceanian/australian people are nice, because once i say AFK, the first thing the host comes to say is "how to custom kick?"

@lobsterbomb
here's ~fwii's image hero guide, its not completely specific unlike the DA ones but this guide provides most what you need to know

http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic4181.html

Lane Pick
Sentinel : Top
Scourge : Bottom

i swear i said the other way round.
ah well
umm yeah if they host says that it is time to stop pretending to be afk.

yes it is only about killing the tree/throne and not about kills, i can feed a game but if i feed in the right way (solo pushing lots) my allies can manipulate the time it takes them to gank me to take 2 towers, if the enemy decides my allies are a bigger threat, i take a tower. for some reason they always go for the easiest kill

yes that is right. i believe i am just kinda like you when playing these games, greed can be a mess and a chain reaction to a massive feeding. i also hate it when i play butcher, i am owning, but my teammates refused to push , which caused me the loss of map control, and losing effectiveness. the lane selection is made to suit the safest lane possible, since if pubbies creep block at the alternate lane, they are going to end up fighting at the towers and the enemy creeps are going to die fast

which would cause them to fight longer at the other(enemy) towers. sometimes you are better at other lanes, and there fore, lane pick isnt fixed at sent top or scourge bot. it is preferably though, not to solo mid lane since you're a melee

awsome strat i do the same skadi radi and Bot but if im low on cash and cnt make it i go for SnY + Yasha + BoT + HoT + Buriza but yes ofcourse EoS is the best .... thumbs up to ur build

yeah i have never seen a good melee mid solo but it is possible to n-creep pull from the opposite lanes, it is just hell harder and riskier with smaller windows of opportunity.

comes to pref i guess. jungle isn't that important early unless you are being denied lots or are against another solo.

like old stuff
all depends on the player

it seems that my effort to edit this guide and correct some mistakes has ended up as an epic failure, as always. oh well, guess ill just write it to words and ask shimmy to paste em

nice man.... truely 5 star statergy....

Uhoh. I sense effort. We can't have that.

I have a plan. CF[X], go through what you sent me (and posted on that thread as well), and compare it to the guide as shown on THIS page. Then edit it as you see fit.
For example, the Expected Items for early game, I just improvised due to lack of information. 'What you started with' does NOT mean x number of Bracers plus Boots.

TOTALLY A GENIUS GUIDE VERY VERY NICE
10 OUT OF 10

hey dude i love the dagon thing XD. um maybe add silences coz 1 time i was against ns and he silenced me and i was about to cast sunder but... no i silenced very scary.. lol. um ya i think he a hero to play with noobs coz they will chiong any1 with low health. XD nice guild but maybe screenies love to see this u with this strat at work XD nice guild peace.....

WOW! NICE GUIDE I LOVE IT!!! 10/10 Hey, counter-force, can i print the guide out? I want to show it to my friends and need to take reference for myself too. But dont be mistaken, i wont say its my guide, cause its your hardwork.

In some situations maxing out soul steal is required like when you are soloing a lane. Anyway just like what I said last time good guide.

terrorblad gains highest AGI in game
AGI is the best
it means
1-attack apeed2
2-armor
3-damage

ALL YOU NEED

Cf[x] can i help you to add a jungle section ?

ThE BEST GUISE MAN!!!!10/10!!!!!!!!! I THINK YOU ARE PRO... KEEP FIXING GUIDES!!

CF[X] i have opted to find my old micro guide then fixing it to accept the past 13 change logs.

ill link you when done.

Threads-

Hmmm...i will consider your strategy for this hero...but u didnt say that Manta totally ruins your Metamorphosis...if u use it when u are ranged...u instantly disable it and become meele...well i have never tried on him skardi cause it wasnt needed...

Call me noob but i always used manta and never failed...i played him with bashers and generally DPS not that tank...(once i took him 2 mkbs)

Satanic and s&y is noobish...i can own him with jakiro...sunder-dagon noobish again...i will double post!

Well i never liked the idea of double eaglehorn(although it is my fav item) and i vote for manta and low stats why?Since your ulty has 60 secs CD(max lvl) i like spamming it:P...it pisses them offXD.I think(not sure)that images get bash effect...anyway i dont understand why u consider BoT(ok farming...)when u have skardi on your build...In this case i believe that u need IaS(30% is really nice)...One last thing why i dont make him a tank...i dont like it...it is just not my style to tank an agi!

Soz for triple...also manta if u know how to use it is more imba than skardi...believe me...also i think that images(ranged or not get mana burn)..oh about BoT..Terror has 320 standard ms why 405 with slow?I dont know i like to piss off guys with terrorblade not tank them out...like Techies:P

All in all this is a really sophisticated and nice strat...i really like it...u have some vocabulary errors..correct them...

rofl u are a noob u suck this is the worst strategy wowowowowow i bet u cant even count past 10 without taking of ur socks

Nice guide!
Although farming is very hard for this hero in early game.....
I give it a 9/10.

nice strat....9/10

@shimrra
well at least you helped, and thats still a lot
@~fwii
some times, yes we do. i laugh at epople who max meta+clone first, saying SS is a losers skill

@hellspawn
upcoming update will include 3 most efficient build, along 6.50 new style of play. and basher/mkb only improves YOUR ability so better not stack em, if you want anti tp, MKB should suffice

@DUDE_DUDE_DUDE
okay you win, now wreck some other guy's guide. and i still dont get the stupid sock joke

@undersaver
TB is the easiest melee hero to farm with perhaps, if not the best, one of the best.

@All
next update will include MAJOR changes, some new implementation of items, 3 new 2 new builds with different style, and the classic radiance tactics for those who has not know it

He means that you have to count on your fingers and toes, but he fails anyway so it doesn't matter what he thinks.

I was actually shocked as to how many of the things I got RIGHT on the guessing game. The thread with this guide, that appeared somewhere I can't remember, I only saw it AFTER I'd done the submission.

By "classic radiance tactics" I would have to assume you mean to rush it... the problem is that its hard and TB needs stats very soon or he'll get mowed. Image with immolation eh.

F- guild, i can do way better without even playing the char once

@butusan
so? do it
@shimrra
radiance build needs bracers, the part where i hate since i'm a branch lover. as said, there are some super nasty tactics you can pull off with radiance. of course, by not truly rushing EoS, and going straight for radiance, w/o 4x gauntlets or 2x bracers is peculiarly suicide.

Every time you get Dagon on TB, an Iranian dies laughing. lol

the way i play TB, is make metamorph and spam images, and micro them as one group, and whenever a single one takes damage i retreat until creeps/hero/tower finds a new target. the trick is to play like meepo, treat them as if they were ALL real. and i usually spam wraiths, and then get skadi, and then get triple kills.

NOTE: If your item build gets past Skadi Boots (of any kind) and a few wraiths/treads, you have FAILED. should b gg

@war_wrecker
true, treat them as of meepo, but they would most likely to know. pass boots and skadi is fail..... hmmmph not really. how if a drow PP and leave with butter and buriza?

this strat is kinda weak btw, i just realised it does not go well with current way of play, which is 50 minutes farm that some losers do, without realising the importance of push and being anti-farming to enemies

http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic10674.html

bah that is 4 hours of my life wasted in updateing and retyping that guide.
steal the jungle bit as you please

wheres d early game item build?

I didn't know what to put for that part. Requires effort from CF[X]...

@XHellspawNX

Skadi or Sny is much better than manta for terrorblade. Without Skadi or Sny terrorblade can't chase. Their stat bonuses are also better thus allowing you to have tougher images.

y keyboard is srewed and i ant respond

trying to hek ghost's guide and the early gae ite's get branhe's or braers. wraiths an also help but not as braers

@ghost
pretty uh of basis but thats all you need to be a good player. and i will also add up the rest of your guide, last hit et. into it. thanks btw

You wrote about dagon these.

It won’t help you destroy towers.




And let me say my replies.

It won’t help you destroy towers-I don't care just kill kill win win.

It won’t help you push-I don't care just kill kill win win.

It won’t help you farm-I don't care just kill kill win win.

It won’t let you carry.I don't care just kill kill win win.

will do
thanks btw

any other extra opinions may be included in, it just needs to be good

Great guide.
Well explained.
10 stars for you.
Bravo!!!

Well i am thinking that unless this guide is clearly meant for pub or at least low lvl games, it is definetly newbish.Most of the things stated cannot be accomplished in average or above average skill games, probably smth more of what u called "serious" games.

Well i am thinking that unless this guide is clearly meant for pub or at least low lvl games, it is definetly newbish.Most of the things stated cannot be accomplished in average or above average skill games, probably smth more of what u called "serious" games.

Bone for life:P
The best sneaky dpser...sometimes people cant touch me before they are dead:P

this is really a guide for pubs, newbs or at best below average players.Such tacticts wont work for serious games or just let's say below average skill games.

@maphack
this guide isn't completed yet, i wrote this based on the experience of play 6 months ago or so, and if you are a great high level player, show us something you can share

@hellspawn
oh yeah. just dont let him farm

its a good guide but i just think skadi is too much for tb, i mean eeryone uses it and it gets pretty boring.

but its the best and btw, dont worry, next updaye will include manta build and SnY(not sure) as choice builds

I have seen SnY and Manta builds work, just Skadi is so much better.

Above spam post to be deleted (if it is CF[X] above me, my work here is done).

(if it is CF[X] above me, my work here is done).

what do you mean ???

if i build 2 bashers for him it will work on images or not ????

11/10 hehehe the best strategy i ever seen

@rooozbeh:
He means that pinoybaler17 spammed and that if Counter_Force[X]'s post is right above his, that means his work is done(Which means pinoybaler17's post has been deleted.

@roozbeh
it works, but not with wonders. there are so many other items that is good for him, and basher isn't one. 2 bashers= 1 guinsoo, which could do hell better, and give mana to spam image so you can farm mad.

@shimrra
you are now appointed as my baby sitter(i'm the baby). if anyone bullies me, smack them XD

rllian is correct. Why is aforementioned spam post STILL THERE?

And why is CF[X] in need of babysitting??

Now... Bashers you say. From what I've heard, the way it works is that images don't have Bash themselves, but if the real hero procs a Bash hit, and an image would proc a Bash hit DURING THE REAL BASH, it will... extend it or something. I really don't know for sure though.

yes it extend, for like 2.2 sec BUT if you bash again, it gets canceled. such are the properties of a noob AM wo gets 3 bashers and then gets a mkb

i need babysitting currently, i', doing a job and so, cant be active here much

what would i change against a perma basher faceless ?
thx 4 answering

y oputer has been srewed and now y keyboard too

1 basher should do it with it picked up as melee (because it gives 15% instead of 10% even when you metamorph) this when coupled with butterfly and skadi should be able to defeat him, the trick however is to wast his chrono by sending out 2 images, 1 image will probably pop so you then run away, in his desire to kill you he will timewalk chrono your image. this is when you create another image and start to rape him. if he works out the real you sunder him or your image. but because of 2.2 second

bash

yup just dont let hi far for wtf ites

ill try the 3 skadis..^^

pinoybaler17 warned for spamming and post deleted.

lol the three skadis should only be tried when you're totally been fed has butterfly and burias and boots dont try it without those first

@caspian
thanks in advance

this is great

@newclear
thanks

just a question...should i build the skadi in ranged form? or in melee form?

melee form

this strategy is a worthless piece of shit

@blackfire123454
wow thanks
go flame some other things now?

Someone shoot that fool. Lots. With non-lethal but painful objects.

Bout of violence over...
Lemme see. A) WHY is it so? B) How many strats have you seen? C) Make a better strat, which you can't. D) How long have you been playing DotA?
Etc.

The best Terror Blade guide i have ever seen!!

Extremely good strat. loved it too much. hilarious and spcific.

PAKISTANIES WILL DIE LAUGHIN HAHA

nice guide dude ive used this guy yesterday and when ive build the EoS i think im almost unstoppable and when ive build 1 butterfly im soooooo unstoppable and ive build another 1 butterfly no one can kill me even Roshan,Super Creeps, Fountain,Towers etc.
Fountain does high damage but when it comes to me it becames sooooooo poor hahaha and + my enemy is vengeful and viper. the one and only swap stun in front of tower. anyway it didnt affect me though hahaha LOL TB is my fav

well glad you people like it

Can you post a replay of when ur using TB? So we can truly see your 'greatness'.

the reason why i wrote strat now, is because i cant play. so go figure lol

bulok man

Very good guide. Terrorblade can be strong in early-mid game clashes with treads+wraith bands. Farming mid game can be troublesome, though if your team constantly requires you to be in clashes. Tip before picking Terrorblade: tell your allies to pick heroes that are strong in clashes/gb.

Great guide, I can usually get an EoS by 25 mins with 2 bracers and boots. After that, the ownage starts. Great guide 10/10.

S&Y in 6.50 OR 6.51 own him .
THE Fuckin enemies are allways sange
NO WAY MEN
realy pain for them
i get a triple kill with it
realy harmfull

Realy nice
I'm going to try it tonight

truely the most elaborate and well thought out strategy ive ever seen, ive never used TB but now i will just for this strategy

Yup, I like your idea on Sunder+Dagon. Your opponent can easily pawn with a high damage skill, like eclipse.

ugh i Hate TB... hes so stupid
he just transforms and auto attacks... wheres the fun? i dont hate him cuz he pwns me, i hate him cuz he sucks

WAY to item dependent hero. Kill early game and its gg for him

Nice m8

VERY GOOD GUIDE!!! I LOVE IT!!! BEST ONE I EVER SEEN!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!

thanks to all new feedbacks

@linial
i didnt recommend sunder+dagon ,i opposed it

@bim
hate hero stuff elsewhere please? if you love challenge of so called "pro" ,play potm or pudge instead if youre asking opinion on how to play TB then do it with manners

I now own at dota, so thats all there is to it, finished!

well ,congratulations then

nice guide! i tried it out yesterday and owned even though we were losing at first ( cause i keep forgetting about CL) but once i got the hang of spaming CL, pushing and killing is a breeze! i managed to push down all the way to the frozen throne even thugh they had long ago push down our barracks :D

as i said, CI is the heart of TB. there is wayy more greater micro of CI that can be put into use.that will be in next update perhaps. i will also explain when you should play him and when

that's the usual build of TB..i'm nt surprised if dat's the 1st place start winner..put some pics!! anyweis good job.

Could do pictures of the range of Sunder and range of Soul Steal. Few people understand/remember these.

great guide. rated it 9/10 cause u can still improve on spelling and maybe a replay.

i liked the guide alot becuase of how indepth it was. but for some people the guide might have been a bit long and hard to understand. But overall i give it a 10. i was going to say put pics in but then i thought about it and the guide was so indepth that you didnt need any.

Hmm maybe replace the butterfly with a lothars edge ? Synchronizes well with sunder and makes sure you dont die and the agi is good for your clones

Oh cripes. I just finished another game. I just can't seem to time my gank properly. Everytime I'm missing, the opposite team'll be alerted. EoS is only effective to a lesser extent...

pokalicious muka kaung tanga^^

@erikNL
no and never
@rllian
perhaps your team has little disables. and about the missing in action stuff, use CI to fool them. more to come in the update and later i will give some choices and ideas on when to and how to choose an orb. perhaps you'll find out your tb style from there
@shimrra
impossible for me currently

@Paloganrosh222
english pls

@the juggernaut
thanks

and now, i urge you to to check Ghost's dota guide here:

http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic10674.html

a great guide

awww shucks, mm 250 range on sunder makes dagon > dagon + sunder

in short don't get dagon or they will get dagon and kill you first.

Very wll strategy

@ghost
one of the factor it is

Very nice strategy. i like your explanation. btw, if you share your screenshot. it will be a perfect strategy.

DUDE NICE STRAT. do u get money when u get an assist

i have neither the ability of getting a screenshot nor a replay and so, you may assume im a noob . and no, neither i do know you get a gold or not but fro what i read, no

Correct me if i'm wrong or sth..of all the games i played...including the newest version, sunder is UNBLOCKABLE by linken. The only counter 4 sunder is bkb, wer, the sundered unit keeps his life while tb gains the opponents life.

Plus, i disagree tat u suggest sny is less effective. It is of effective bcz it gives xtra movement speed, dmg and life plus maim compared 2 sny. Even the famous KS-xiaogui from Malaysia build his TB with sny, then Eos, turning the outcome of a lost game to a win....

2nd post(sry...)
Other than that...nice guide. 10 from me. Good work.

Finally i am back alive to bully somebody ((just joking CF[X]))

looks good for items and so but the reading... i surely dont like that at all makes my head hurt sometimes
those that say 'this is a sucky' or 'bad' or 'WTF is this guide' gets a problem with the the big guys...

good strat "again said it"
good job 10/10 peace homeboys

@rogol-a-nator
SnY is less effective compared to EoS. i know KS-xiaogui, i saw KS replay and they were good. but still xiaogui ade EoS didnt he? well, good news to you, net update will include SnY as well as manta. i ust say KS play a delicate style, taking risk early for an outcome which isn't worth much it seems that they play for fun. and about sunder i last played dota in the 48 version b4 y comp smashed ,so i dont know new stuffs BUT sunder works against BKB, you get his hp but he dont get

your hp.

@blasting
well welcome back then. thanks for the compliment

That was the most amazing strategy I've ever read, thank you. Very well done 10/10 .

You put MKB in items to consider and then said that you shouldn't ever get MKB BKB is suicide IMO since they'll know who's real Terrorblade.3 EoS isn't very smart at all. You forgot some great combos like Zeus(Sunder+Zeus's ulti),Spectre(Sunder+Haunt).You should get Metamorphosis in early game cos of bonus hp and range attack.SnY is not bad since range hero gets both maim and frost attack.Anyway a fine guide 8/10(definitely better than those previous TB guides).
BTW. this 500 char thing sucks

Yea and BTW. , don't worry about screnshoots. Most of those I saw are pretty much useless, and put just so the whole strat looks better...

late game your images should be tank enough to push an enemy hero free lane while you neut.

lol i hate sny.
if you can save 5500 then getting 6950 shouldn't take that much longer.

2 The Butterfly(30 Agi, 30 damage, 30 IAS, 30% Evasion) why? i will not add some
30 IAS, 30% Evasion!

my favorite item for him is manta style for pushing.. if you want to scare your enemies with 4 metamorphosis images with the original TB is equal to 5 heroes longrange that mana burn's to death
(i wonder if you know how!)

i dont like what ive read that RANGE heroes doesnt break some mana..
watch to your replays

and hey EoS is not an ORB when you used RANGE heroes!

From what I heard, it's best not to use sunder against experienced players? What I've noticed about a lot of TB players is that they attack their opponent, run back to fog of war, and sunder their own allies. They then run back to their opponent, and their opponent thinking it's a clone their fighting, just keep whacking until they realize it's not a clone. Does that method work? I've yet to try it out

Great strategy...:):):):)

Great Guide,
Actually I have seen people using this some time back, Sept last year ? With Skadi and image range attack u just cannot escape, sure kill.
I am not much of a melee hero, but I hate it when the other team TB gets a skadi, I will ask for gang on him/her asap.

@uki
if i were to mention all combo, then what is your brain for? SnY is no good most of the time on tb . if you build him as range, you lose melee frost so stop stacking both, if you want 1 orb, stick to one orb

@rllian
how come does that makes sense? that you shouldnt ast sunder on eperiened player just to give the impression that youre actually a clone? cmon, there is no proper explanation on why would that work

@SKC
not really

Of course people used this ages and ages ago, its just that nobody put it into words until now...

the one has spoken

TeRorrIst BaBy...! Yeahhhhhh bahhhh

the only terrorist i support is shimrra_3 and perhaps some few others that loves his techies guide

I am the one? Since wh- wait I don't mind this. Whooo.

I think you should edit this properly. That 'expected early game items' still rankles...

word re-re-re-re-re-peated

my effort to open the page is an epic failure

cant wait to see the updates and items build, but i will stick to eos for now :d

a basher is pretty sweet on terrorblade since his images also will benefit from it and perform bashes

Good Stuff. 10/10. You do a great job justifying your skill build and item build. Skadi is definitely the way to go on him, almost without exception.

Sange&Yasha got boosted in the new version, and I think it is still a good consideration for TB. With his attack speed, Maim is easy.

@blid
no
@darksun
should you do so,i'll give my best
@SnY and manta lovers
heres the situation, if i use any of those, people will recommend EoS the way you people recommend yasha/manta. but fear not, currently writing for choice builds though on screen keyboard for speed writing totally sucks

dude.
super duper nice great guide.
i give you 11/10
haha

keep it up
i hope you will write guide about other hero soon

thanks
well i have 3 more strats 1 pending and 2 quite a bit unfinished. my strat arent the best coz i havent played dota for so long now that i'm now unaware of the current gameplay length, style, and new ability changes

hmm...mayb u r right...gud argument..i'll gladly giv 11/10 if i can xD lol...btw..i stil prefer sny :-P hehe...joking...hope u'll continue making GREATER guides

well then, thanks

congrats on winning de competition!!!

@Counter_Force[X]:
No... it's not just the clone impression. Using sunder on your opponents gives them the immediate hint to run away. And for any experienced dota players, they know how to counter sunder easily. Using sunder on your ally might surprise them instead. I'm not too sure though, since I find TB really hard to use.

using sunder on your allies to heal or simply annoys them is bad. i an assure you, unless the enemy is veno or zeus, you'll just end up worse. good coordination settles the pro player part. gank him, disable him and wath him GG

great strategy
just one question (it may sound stupid): how exactly do you cancel the animation?

by issuing another command straight after the attack projectile is released(ranged) or straightly after when damage is dealt(melee) for spells, straight after the spell is successfully casted. this saves tie and allows you to chase up a bit

"And for any experienced dota players, they know how to counter sunder easily."

how does one counter sunder, soul steal to counters linkens and if they use bkb terrorblade still gets life.

i can see that the simple counter is "don't let terrorblade get on low life"
but as you can probably see there is a tragic flaw there.
you could fight him on low life..
bad idea.

i guess silence him, but then you risk him just mauling you anyway.

sunder isn't an offensive spell, it is a survival spell.

"Using sunder on your opponents gives them the immediate hint to run away."

you run away while under the 30% slow.

good luck.

@Ghost:
Dude... If you look at any Dota game, you'll realise that -30% running speed isn't alot at all. It's relatively easy to run away from someone who has EoS. And don't forget blinkers like akasha or magina. In the first place, your opponent won't use any huge skills on you to get your health down quickly. Nukers will know what sunder can do. Anyway, like I said, eul's or a sheepstick will be useful since you can also double as support while getting a disabling skill at your service.

average base movespeed is 300, 33% of 300 is 100
30% is 90
so 300-90
210
tis is actually quite a drop

yes a blinker will blink away
and yes i am sure they know what sunder can do.

and sheep stick isn't very helpful when you have 1 or 2 images doing 55% damage (110% with 2) and killing them anyway.

the thing is don't go underestimating the power of TB and his life saving sunder

@CF[X]
add medusa to the enemy list as purge > image
or get shim to do it as you computer is screwed up

writing the new guide improvements, and will do. whats so bad about medusa to TB is actually split shot and lightning

@rllian
30% slow isnt much at all? so what do you suggest?

this is surely a godlike strategy, man!!! keep it up

thanks

Do you think getting Basher after getting eos would own or would you be better off getting somthing else, like a butterfly build. Either way TB has changed my life with owning at dota

did i actually recommended basher?

i just want to make a scary 5 illusions hah!

i just want to make a scary 5 illusions hah!

i forgot with METAMORPHOSIS is ON

TRY IT GUYS

wha?

Apparently Medusa is total hell for TB, why am I not surprised. Oh and finally, just to add more, Mana Shield will screw with your Sundering - you drop her HP, she still has how much mana so it was ineffective. Aint I great for pointing this out.

Sigh I guess I'll end up doing whatever update. Post a comment here somewhere and if I don't respond send me a PM.

still writing slowly
if you wanna add medusa or anything you feel viable, please do, i have full trust in you

Good Job but Pics would make it one of the best guides on DS.
9/10

Finally someone who sees the use of SoulSteal.Excellent job!This is the best TB guide I've ever seen.Nice analysis on the items,though ur lacking in screenies.

anyway, 10/10

screenies prove nothing replays are just the same unless its a clan match

As I've said, you don't need 'OMG LOOK HOW GOOD SKADI IS' or similar - you need to show Soul Steal's range and Sunder's range, that sort of thing. Instructive screenies instead of 'I own' screenies.
But!
Moot point guys as CF[X] has already informed us his computer is screwed right now.

boyahhh!!!!!!!!!

Well, I saw couple of better strategies for soul, but urs is a good start!

@Counter_Force[X]:
Well... I can't quite suggest any other things. You're quite right. Your build is 'SINGLE MOST EFFICIENT ITEM AND SKILL BUILD'. Though I kinda prefer getting soul steal a little earlier for lane staying. So anyway, yea. All you can really do is to time your ganks properly. Seems TB needs A LOT of practice to get used to him

omg i loved the part with the sneaky-hasty little bastard called clinkz.lol it's real funny

This is the best strategy ever man!

11/10 ^_^

nice guide

great guide!
so in depth about everything u need 2 know. cheers bro
10/10

no words. 10/10

i don't wanna meet you online mate... you play this too much. sounds like gg everytime lol. well i might just try terrorblade for the first time now thanx for the guide '2 Thumbs up'

wow!!! a very great guide... no other guide that will explain how to use TB than this one... excellent farming and tips... nice job...

Very nice detailed guide indeed. rated 10 stars

To those who condemned this guide,pls submit a better guide (if you think you can do better than that!) to share and enlighten us more,savvy?!
pros or noobs alike starts from playing and practicing...who cares if this guide is for noobs,below-average-players,newbs,etc?!? THIS IS A GUIDE!!(dig out the meaning in an Oxford Dictionary if you need to) Not a guru's commandment that any individual MUST follow!!
this strat guide rocks, TOTALLY!!

lemme ask should you troll early game? Since CI can allow you to lure the creeps away while a new one spawns.

2 butterfly suck, why ? Evade does not stack,

Buriza suck, no critics on images even if it s vritten.

better put a satanic instead of one butter.

Above comment is truly sad... Evasion does not stack... So? Butterfly doesn't just give you EVASION my friend... Not only that, TB's images fully benefit from the +30 agi. It's an excellent item for TB since you need the attack speed if you wanna use the frost orb ability.

Not only that but Satanic doesn't stack with [melee] Skadi, making it half-useless.

that was awesome...
no wonder u're the wiiner of this contest...
keep it up...

this hero and guide is so imba. keywords farm farm farm until u get EoS.

currently is in UAE following my uncle whos a pilgrim doing umrah

@shim
ohhhhh i forgot that part(casting range rightttt)will work on it when i get back in a week. update is also 70% done(massie update to item build)

@dand 296
2 butterfly is way better than a single EoS if you opt DPS. tell e why satanic is better. images also dont get life steal. about buriza proclaiming false crits, will check on that

no, i am not pro with TB anymore, but my brother still is. and by that (continued)

i might share the ownership of this guide with someone here that has already helped me alot(you know who) so that he may have full authority of inserting screenies/pis or even replays. honestly, i have played dota only once a month sine july 07 when my family moved from town with the cc that i usually play at.
last time i played, i sucked alot. and thanks alot to this stupid computer, i will retire completely fro dota perhaps in may with this guide being someone else by then

@DandyChat (296)
you lose. FYI, images do have crits

CF[X] that is 269, and I can't play TB (unless fed) so don't make me do that...

269 uphhhhhh
@shimrra
well, you an work some impressive stuffs with Ghost, after watching your replays , retard or not your enemies are, you both have good sense of teamplay

and now, one you add some stuffs that i a not aware of in the current new gameplay, this will be considered as a merged guide

Why did my Terror BLade strategy didnt appear T____T.
Ur skill build is good since u explain it well.getting lvl(1.3.5.7.9)stats 1st
lvl(2.4.6.8)Conjure Image (10-11.)Sunder
(12-15.)Metamorphosis 16.Sunder 17-25. stat,soul steal.
About item build better 2 get Radiance than EOS since Radiance works on illussions that will help u farm fast,even just leaving ur illussions on a wave on creeps ur illu will farm and w/ BTravel u can Travel w/ another lane and farm more.no more characters T_T.....

Cont. After getting radiance u can immediately buy EOS since the farming is fast. Metamorphosis helps u farm more too since `it` secretely regens hp and mana faster if ur in metamorph.IF u got ur radiance fast u will own the jungle fast. About ur Guinsoo I agree with it since its really very helpful, past months ago I saw a Betting game and all there heroes got Guinsoo since there enemy have great killers.Even killer have there own guinsoo`s

last time i checked, radiance isnt as useful anymore because of the removal of the duhh aegis. since that, massive early pushes to prevent carries from farming has became popular, and radiance is no longer helpful as it one does since if you really want to contribute, eos rush seems better but yet, its still good item on virtually any hero

your stradegy was very good though i suggest u should put more infohttp://www.dotastrategy.com/images/smileys/glad.gif
Glad

nice

this guide sucks...your stat build sucks..your Scardi it the only good thing...

[bdpk].Warlord

Above post fails at life.

above post excels at life, and what he say is true, undoubtful

great guide!

great strategy and very well said.

appreciate it
keep um coming

Whooo I excel at life. About merging, I'm really not sure. Consider that, as I've said, I really can't play TB all that well lol.

who cares? compared to me who cant play at all, youre way better

Well Done!
Well Done!

thanks