Bug Domination!!!
Created by HolyAngelz. on 2006-11-23
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Hmm.. I'm surprised you didn't get Vladimir's Offering. That makes your spiders tougher and they gain lifesteal too. And your item build lacks HP boosters.. Broodmother is very fragile. Good job on explaining how to hide in webs.
This is an okay guide. The skill build is okay, just as how I would also do it. The item build is rather questionable, especially the two Bashers, but I guess you play that way. IMO, Broodmother is foremost a pusher and a killer second. I would rather have Vanguard in there, for a little bit of tanking and chasing heroes through creeps, and just like Yukino said, Vladimir's Offering, instead of the two Bashers. After that, you can get your Butterfly.
I don't agree with this guide. I want to bring into your attention that incapacitating bite is close to useless,you shouldnt get it early game.Also, you need life boosters, as yuki says. I won't buy two cranium bashers either, perma bash dosent stack.
yea i agree wif yukino... vladmir offering!!! well i am quite shocked u get twin basher!! well u dun nid much stuns when u trying 2 kill the hero, got quite an amazing speed!! i got one tips for u to get kill easily, all u have to do is get the spin web in one line, no need 2 be to close. when u r in the web ur speed will increase a lot, tht would make the chase easier
Awww... Not 2x Basher. BM can chase heroes w/o bashing. Slow is already necessary, but usually in mid-late game effectively. Get V'sO, Butterfly, MKB, Mekansm(for push), and/or Vanguard
this build is nice for farming am i right?
WAT A CRAP GUIDE!!! first of all brood mother definitely does not need 2 craniums! second of all brood mother already has a orb affect and last of all WTH is the point of the mana item! whenever the spiders hit creeps and that creep dies more spiders come out you know!
U're too cruel, venge! Anyways, you'll need more experience for a great guide, Holyangelz.. Sorry, man.
I'm sorry for your underrated strategy, but face it. It's the truth.
When you dominated with this strategy, was it a noobs only game or against bots?
I don't understand why this guide is rated so low. The skill build is fine. (@Shadowinks - Incapacitating Bite is not useless, it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL, oh and another thing, permabash doesn't stack? With what?)
Your item choices are a bit questionable, getting bashers because of spider high atkspd doesn't work because, well, the spider doesn't have a high atkspd, and getting an Arcane Ring because it "Might be useful" just doesn't cut it. Oh and lifesteal doesn't stack with bite.
Mr bruno_89 is right, the only way you can use this strategy is if you're playing with noobs. look at the items. basher? bkb? i have a lot of questions.
1. how can you farm? other heroes will harrass you. all you can do is hide in you web and lich for some xp.
2. do you think you can have this items when you reach lvl 11? NOOB
3. do you know how to use spiderlings. it is his best skill. sounds like you have no idea how to use it.
how will you farm. that is my main question...
you also have no idea why she is called the brood mother.
Correction, two perma-bashes don't stack together. your skill build works fine but the item build is lame.
CAN'T LA THIS KIND OF ITEM
I RATHER BUY BKB N LINKEN PLUS TWO BUTTERFLY N Buriza-do Kyanon N AGIS
BECAUSE I LIKE TO KILL N BE SAFE
I GT TWO ITEM FOR FOR MI TO PLAY SAFE
LINKEN AND BKB SO I DUN NEED TO BE AFIRAED OF ANY HERO N THOSE WHO GT STUN
HACK I ALSO DUN NEED TO BE SCARE
N EU SHOULD NT BUY ODD INFFECT ITEM
BECAUSE IT'S THIRD SKILL SLOW 4O% SPEED
4O% LEHX.. EU NO HOW IT'S IS SO THINK BEFORE EU DO OK
i think you dont need 2bashers... why not change it to satanic?? is satanic bad to broodmother? why?
Well... the 2 bashers are obviously 'gay' item for BroodMother.. She has to have them.. that way the victim will stay put and you can get a sure kill.. no sweat... She has low MS.. so i personally think that BroodMother has to pump up the AS so that bash kicks in more... so you can own more.. By the way.. (does the percentage of lifesteal stacks with BroodMother's Ulti..?)
This guide is MUCH better than 1 star, but definitely not 5 star. Since everyone's tearing it apart, I vote 9/10 to even it out. Maybe MKB instead of bashers for the lifesteal. Otherwise, this guide is MUCH better than all the flaming it's gotten.
(treads or BoT), vladimir, basher, hyperstone, 2x vanguard (sweet!) this should be enough.. It will take forever to complete your set.. it is very difficult specially on 5v5. Good strat in explaining the use of the webs.
sny would be very effective wif broodmother in early game as it gives more stats den most other items of similar cost. also, hunger is not useless, with hunger, you are almost sure to gain health @ da same rate you get hit.
hmm...????????? i,m not convince with the items build
nah i dont think basher is quite necessary for broodmother because of its 3rd skill....i dont think any enemy heroes with no ability to stun or even delay broodmother for a while to get the escape could possibly survive the broodmother if it already used the ultimate and bit the victim.
The skill set is good, bite is a great orb in the early and mid game since most heroes will try to run when you ult.
The bashers are a little questionable, I'd go with one just for the extra advantage while your ult is on cooldown.
@Shadowinks: How is bite not good? Extra damage, slow, and a chance to miss? Big advantage for the spider since heroes will just run away to waste your ult.
@vengence2006: He said the mana item is optional, something that he prefers. It'd be nice in the early game, but Vlad's is better. And as for the MoM, he doesn't need bite when he's berserking with two bashers, think about that before you spaz out more.
@who ever the hell said it: BKB is great to beat spell spammers and bashers. Pop avatar and suddenly Zeus can't spam you down before you kill him. Think about what heroes Brood Mother has trouble killing before you start talking trash on items.
lol canadian_kobe
u really noob s n y?! its orb effect same is for satanic...
if u know what is orb efect... and RoB is ussles with BM... and MoM is a orb too
one more thing BM can own with Power Treads, 2 braces and Vladimir... and if u have money butterfly even with crystalis but lets keep a normal not dream build... but man how long u play one dota game? 2 hours?!
Vladimir is an orb effect and if you go for the high LS, you neglect the great 40% slow bite and 25% miss chance.
u no if u get an orb effect u can say good bye to that slow bite of hi and also dot get vladamirs cause then your enemy will no when u are around
this item build is good, but the 2 craniums arent needed at all, i mean the incapitating bite is enough to finish off ur enemy+ ur level 6....and then OWNAGE....
MoM?? Optional item?? Are u crazy??
it sucks yo!
are you noob? MoM is an orb effect...so then ur slow is uselss?? lol?
yeah! his build is a noob type. unaware of the obstacles and harrassments that could be brought upon by his enemy. please dont rape broodMAMA.! vanguard and assault should be considered. 2 wraith bands and PT is enough. dont waste the 3rd skill. always bring TP.
For you nubs out there, Vladmir's is not an orb effect, its an aura. Also, BM has a higher than average aspd. double bashers pwnz with him
@morbo7
double bashers are not useful at all with the bm orb effect the slow is all you need for chasing down heros even the ones with BOT the web will give you any speed you need to get to him to have the slow start. vladmirs isnt a orb effect true but the aura would get rid of your suprise attack they would know your coming when everything has lifesteal. just like a radiance.
I agree with juggernaut
BM already has the incapacitating bite to slow them and the web to haste her to the chase. just a little boost with MS and AS plus a good Damage Boost and your good to go...
PT, Butterfly, Bloodstone, Mekansm, and MKB if I still can.
the skill build is good and the item build is good! but i think you should have ring of brasillius instead of arcane ring! hahaha!
Hey poeple,
Just ar this hero last night, and killing hero is easy after ulti, my item at mid game is only vanguard, poweer treads, braces and maybe one Circlet of Nobility. Can kill any hero, just attack, and ulti when engage, sure kill, didn't even have time to upgrade the Spawn Spiderlings skill and everyone is leaving game already.
fuck all strat........orb effects dont stack......sounds like a noob made this strat.....broodmother needs treads,vlademirs, 1 basher, butterfly, linkens sphere, buriza or heart....man no mom or satanic
Incapitating Bite doesnt reduce 40 MS, it reduces 40%. It also is an orb effect. I don't think you are a true Broodmother user. Sorry.
This is not the best strategy. But I HAVE seen it work. Like others (too few) have said, this guide kinda rises above all the flaming...
My own opinions:
SnY - no, its an orb; steer clear.
MoM, Satanic - orb.
Deso - orb.
Vlads - not an orb, it works, get it after your first damage item.
BkB - very effective if used right. BkB THEN Hunger, other way means BkB debuffs Hunger, which is bad.
Arcane Ring - I don't get it myself, but last person I saw get it, the next time I saw him in that game he had 6k+ worth of new items.
Bashers: noobie build, but it works. More than 2 sucks though.
First main item? I have tried rushing everything, Butterfly works the best for me - that doesn't mean it is THE BEST, even though I definitely think so.
+60% attack speed is basically +60% damage output - versus a 20% 2.2 crit from Buriza, which is about +20% damage output (2.2x damage every 5th hit equals damage of 6 hits, +20%).
Everyone who just looked and flamed it on the spot needs to not do that ever again.
I would say 7/10.
well shimra 3 u r rite...
i had made a guide 4 tis hero n juz waiting 4 approval only, lolsss
Vladimir's Offering is only 16% lifesteal aura, compared with 60% lifesteal at level 16. However, I think Vladimir's is possible but that you should have regen madness
no use for arcane ring try vladimir's is far better.
Vlads is great. People who get Spider SnY/Satanic/Skadi/MoM are screwing up big time. Bite owns the world as it should, don't get another orb. You CAN use some passive Lifesteal, can't perma-ult. And yes, the mana regen doesn't go unused either.
u dont get orb effects.try radiance first then butterfly then its all up to you...nice strat anyway
I think the point of getting 2 bashers is to increase the chance for the enemy unable to escape if he brings portal. It's the effort that counts. Don't flame the guide maker.. In the first place, MoD approved the guide.. When you make a guide, it says there that you need to dedicate it to the noobs not the pros..
ehem! as a BM expert.. i recomend 2 vanguard than 2 bashers so you can use your ultimate perfectly.. then wear it with power threads, vladimir's, MKB and Buriza-do-Kyanon..
this guid is a crap lol who s stupid to make 2 bashers on brodmother when she has slow allready
I would say no no no for bashers.. I'd rather use the money for assault cuirass. 2 bashers = 1 cuirass which has aura for spiderlings.. Vlad is cool for broodmama and mekans for your spiderlings to last long. Brood is the ultimate pusher with mekans..
waw... good items for farming. but why get 2 bashers??????????????
...excelent job i like ur strategy keep making them ... :
good luck on owning and my advice afcorse is to make buriza+satanic+buterfly=90%life steal very powerful critical and very fast atack speed...+if u have a strenght hero like enemy he wil miss atleast 1/3
Does life steal stack with brood mother's lvl 6? What about the Hood of Defiance. Wouldn't it work well for brood mother as she has the spin web ability? And you can easily pawn jakiro and the others like him, right?
OK I have already played more than 50 games with this hero and my skill order is the following:
1. Spin Web
2. Spawn Spiderlings
3. Spawn Spiderlings
4. Incapacitating Bite
5. Spawn Spiderlings
6. Insatiable Hunger
7. Spawn Spiderlings
8. Incapacitating Bite
9. Incapacitating Bite
10. Spin Web
11. Insatiable Hunger
This hero only needs mana for spiderlings and web in the early game.
battle of fury is needed for Brood, because u can steal life from the cleaving too... basher and butterfly ok but ater it inly need attack speed (cuirass)valdimir is a stupid thing for him, because enemy can find out where u are from aura.... in the middle game.
Dont forget in the most part of the game this hero is invisible. Little spiders can kill every creep and they are the best "farmers". so down line is the optimal for this hero.
ok well u dont need bashers expically 2 but i like the idea of arcine. yyou already have arguablially the best orb(ursa) and her ult willl help u own all but the wraith bands are worthless even nulls are better but i get bracers for his low hp. i like it though this is my best hero and i am pure ownage
nice built,i buy 2 wraith band i get owning,wahahahaa
@ yukino_silvermaine
... Broodmother's Hp at lvl 25 with 10 bonus pts hits 1,9k. That's far away from fragile. Not to mention the insanely high lifesteal she has... Though I agree, I would make a Vladimir!
--ORB EFFECTS DO NOT STACK--
Satanic, HotD, MoM, none of those with stack with her ult. Theyre totally useless, any difference you've noticed from MoM or Satanic is simply the speed bonus you're getting..
mkb more than basher.
sori to say dis but your guide sucks....first brood mama doesn't need cranium what if U have slow U should Use cranium fuck dis but it really is for lozers...
sorry bro.. sucky guide.. skip the 2 cb.. get butterfly, vladimirs and vanguard.. bkb if against nukers and huge stunners.. like earth
yes yes,,cranium is unuseful,u should cahnge it with vlad's offer.4 moe defense and life steal,but usually i saw someone playing,they made butterfly up to 2.well i agreed with them who did that.
get bashers AFTER butterfly so that you can actualyl bash someone to death. i dont even get bashers, her slow is enough! plus spiderling slow is 55%. I like treads butterfly crit and vlads for ur spiderlings. Optional item could be linkens for nukers.
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YOU ASS HOLE! MASK OF MADNESS IS AN ORB EFFECT! WHO WANTS to cancel the incapacitating bite and add 17% life steal??
lol.... even if you face 2 heroes... meele heroes will have a hard time cuz
1. your range is actually 125... most meele heroes only have 100....
2. your incapacitating bite has a chance that the enemy will miss AND he will be slowed AND the web has a speed bonus... so picture this.... you're hiding in your web and you bite your enemy to harras him... he will eventually hit you back... in this case there's a chance that the enemy will miss with this attack... AND is he's a meele hero... the moment you bite him run around... he will have a hard time cuz he's slowed... you're fast... 25% of the time he misses... so there is no prob even if you are facing 2 heroes...
good
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yea umm... 1 owuld give it like 3/10 for effort >< i liked how u said bfly but no vlads and the part with cranium? i dont think u need bashing cuz wen the ysee u theyll run and ur third skill makes them slow... sumone said that if ur first skill doesnt kill them run bak??? wtf no be greedy!! lol i used it once but it didnt kill them but since i was farmed iand got BoT i chased him down and used it again and gto me mega kill spree lol
Very good.i give 9/10
I never play a BM with Basher build. I usually go straight to butterfly. Plus MoM is definetely a no go 4 BM. Its an orb effect, which cancels out BM's 3rd skill.
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DO not understimated Broodmother n00b u should add the web first
wad the hell is this guide Buildin MoM on broodmother!!!!!!!!!!!!
err MoM on brood? The Incapacitating Bite IS and orb so MoM would be futile
it sucks!!! brood is my favorite hero... this should be the way of making brood a killer... first vanguard,,, vladimir's offrng...butterfly,,, then radiance... buriza...and currias...!! you cn also replace vladimirs with satanic for late game... you can also add tarrasque....you won't need basher ,,coz' brood has an orb effct tht will slow the enmy...
---> broood01


