Yurnero-King of Blades

Great strategy, very in-depht. Loved it : )

Excellent guide. In depth explanations to skill and item builds. Keep up the good work man! 10 out of 10, definetly. First comment ftw@

W/ shots, great plays, good strategies in playing yurnero.. good item build, THUMBS UP for you amplirage!! 10/10

Thanks guys and thanks Orochi for helping me out when the strat wasn't published =p. Will be trying to make a better Kael guide for the HGC.

btw, as far as i know, Buriza won't override your critical, 'coz its a "DOUBLE DAMAGE", not critical..

all in all, good guide again.. ^_^,

P.S. We're the same build.. ^_^,

nice strat, 10/10- got a Beyond godlike using it (although the opposition WAS a bit nooby)

Actually it happens concurrently and if they occur at the same time, buriza overides. Paying so much gold for an additional .2 of critical? Rather cost ineffective don't you think?

You dont need blade dance at start...you have not enough attack speed to activate blade dance!!Boots at start is very useful in using bladefury!

Great guide, but Satanic>>>>HoT, it gives armor, health and lifesteal which is a very good sustainer of health. About the Fog of War juking spots: just post a picture of the minimap and edit it with Paint to mark these spots.

I agree with you bulyot and rambol. Boots of travel ARE important but the recently buffed MS of Yurnero is sufficient. If in earlier versions. Yes, a pair of boots are good. As for Satanic. I put it in the 'items to consider' section. Too bad the maim and lifesteal won't stack. Lifesteal always overides

yah, ineffective anyway.. focusing in AS and MS to yurnero is better.. ^_^,

well,overall good guide, with good explanations, you`re a very meticulous guy... I just don`t agree with the battlefury, I always get sny snd satanic... but that`s jut me, i don`t say battlefury sux, it`s just not for me :D GJ 10/10

yah, ineffective anyway.. focusing in AS and MS to yurnero is better.. ^_^,

thank you for noticing the effects of buriza...bet people who see this guide might understand that having extra critical is actually USELESS since yurnero has a great critical by himself

@Lestat, satanic cant be on S&Y, both have orb effects.. ^_^,

yurnero......what the insane hero after mid game,so geng,

First one! Yay

Good strategy really like it

Hehehe...I just realised something funny. When I looked through the rest of the 'newest strategies' I noticed that all the heroes up had icons showing their teeth. All of them are either grinning away or gritting their teeth menacingly. For lack of a better place to put my observation, I just put it here ^^

Maan, the page didnt loaded!

That does not change my idea though

whoa! nc screenshots!!^^,
keep it up,10!

Really nice guide, i like it, u put a lot of effort in this one, i agree on almost everything, except boots of speed, i take them from the beginning, for a lame blade fury kill, and i usualy get lifesteal if not the whole satanic just a dominator cheerz, and keep up the great work

actually it is a trick for yurnero to get MoM mid-game... with that... activate the MoM just before you omnislash and you'll receive many more strikes in between omnislashes as the MoM greatly increases your attack speed momentarily... otherwise it is good to consider having sny for the buffs and lifesteal which he needs later in the game... his hp is too low and fragile... he desperately needs the lifesteal as his damage output is naturally high..

Great strat bt i dont agree on item builds. I usually get 2 bf as an sny is nt worth the cost.The regen from bf is vry nice as u can spam skills witchout worrying about your mana.

True. According to my earlier research on another forum, I found there are two core items that people like to use. Satanic and SnY. I find SnY more favourable. Why? because with it you do not need to depend on your ultimate or your team mate's disables to kill the opponent. And for survivability I put a HoT. As for MoM, it good since you become invulnerable during omnislash BUT it is too risky to use when ult is on cooldown, thus, it won't be used to its full potential.

okey look frozentraxex, sny works with satanic and manta style... because lifesteal and mana burn overrides sny, but when the maim triggers, it triggers baby WOHOOOO it`s tested, it`s confirmed...
BUSTED

6/10..

first skill nuild is bad IMO

Blade Fury+Stats is way to go

Blade dance 12-15

Bfly should be rushed first!

No bfury at all

BoT is good

Vlad is good(but u didn't say any about it)



Desolator is good(but u didn't say any about it)

How about Vlads instead of HoT? I think your DPS would be enough to keep you alive with lifesteal even without extra HP.

Really now? If I checked the orb effect tables properly lifesteal overides almost everything..I must re-check. Thanks for bringing it up.

Lifesteal overrides EVERYTHING EXCEPT Skadi ranged and other sources of lifesteal. Vlads is not an orb so it should work with SNY.

@nemanja: BF is for farming and spamming spells. Vlads is a viable option but it is not practical. Satanic and HoT are more practical because they also boost health. In real battles they're gonna throw what they have at you even before you can start lifestealing. Desolator is good as it is the best item-for-gold damage purchase but it helps you kill opponents who are fleeing when you don't have your ulti-how? Blade dance is as good if not better than stats as it happens very often. Bfly (cont)..

(cont) should NOT be rushed as it will not help much in your farming. Period. If you can get all those items fast in time for mid-late game without a Bfury or basic items to help farming, clearly you are extremely good or playing with noobs.

GUYS listen to me, sny and satanic goes perfectly...
maim is just trigger orb, it stacks with lifesteal and feedback[well not together] lifesteal overrides everything, okey i heard that but when the maim triggers, it triggers...

According to the tables lifesteal overrides maim. Perhaps it could be wrong? I think its quite useful if it can work

blade dance early is shitty
stats are the way to go

too much emphasisement on miscellaneous strategies, place them all in one section is better

build focuses on making too much item at a time, if you want BF rush it, dont delay for SnY. same way goes around

overall good guide though i hate to re-write again what i argue on BF , nice to see other malaysians do good guides, needs some more effort to compete with the premium DA guide by another malaysian ^^

8.5 is pretty much 9 though
9/10

nice one loved it...

Thanks CFX. I have seen your arguments on BF vs Radiance . And I have to agree on some of your points but Yurnero is 'one of those heroes who use BF' because almost nothing goes to waste and he needs the mana regen for skills, mostly BladeFury. Yea, I need to improve, its my first guide ever after all =] Thanks for giving the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.

Very Nice Guide, but IMO the skillbuild is a bit wrong. 9/10

by the way I'm a noob, where do you look the tables for lifesteal? how it overrides the others....and what items shouldn't be together..please anyone...i would appreciate it if someone explains it to me...tnx

it's in the library section
"tables of orb effects"

Nice strat... o well, this is my usual item and skill build for yurnero ^_^

Try to add lothars in the items to consider as it is fun to bladefury while invi hehe ^_^ just my opinion sharin...

anyways nice guide rate it 10/10

good strat a 9/10 for me...just missing sumthing..=) hmMmM...

with that items,
u can only deal at least 10 omnislashes (lvl 3 omnisLash)

but...

if u replaced SnY with MoM,
u can deal about 12 or so,
and
it can increase your survivability
in the game,,

nice overall strat..the ones ive been looking for..=)

Yes, but even though MoM is extremely good for his ulti since he is invulnerable, it is too risky for a fragile hero like him to activate normally. Plus, we must try not to rely on the ulti too often and concentrate on his monster DPS abilities. And MoM is not an item many would like in their late game slot as other than lifesteal it doesn't provide any other passive bonuses. Early-mid game perhaps but it would slow down the rest of the items in the item build.

And hey another thing,

vlads + sny is pwnge in late game because of the high dps of yurnero try it too adding vlads in th items to consider ^^

anyway nice

And hey another thing,

vlads + sny is pwnge in late game because of the high dps of yurnero try it too adding vlads in th items to consider ^^

anyway nice

@ mods sorry for double posting my browser is not functioning well,

MoM is hideous on almost any hero with no proper ability, not to mention on a >2k hp hero

dont argue much, this is the best yurnero guide here for now and perhaps forever if amp keeps updating

woooo....

a yurnero guide..!!

at last..^^,

11/10 ^^,

thanks for the guide..

i agree on that CF[X]
but still can`t agree with BF, i like satanic instead...

uhhmm..
just sharing this..
imo..
this is what i always build
no matter what happens..
this is in order ok guys.
i dont know.
i just like these items.
lol..

when it comes to 4v4
havent played yurnero in 5v5

exactly what i buy.
all of em..
this is in order too..

RoB
tangoes
clarity
2x wraithbands
ring of regen
flasks
boots
mask of death to make it
vladymirs
persi
bfury
then i'll complete treads
yasha
sange
then s&y
monkey king bar
butterfly

XD

What u need for farming is DMG

NOT SPLASH
btw if u want spell imunity take bkb

good guide

i suppose it is worth considering getting boots + tango to start with and have a support hero buy a courier to share and clarities for you


jugger with boots = 355 move speed so enemy heros will have a hard time escaping from your blade fury

good guide

i suppose it is worth considering getting boots + tango to start with and have a support hero buy a courier to share and clarities for you


jugger with boots = 355 move speed so enemy heros will have a hard time escaping from your blade fury

good guide

i suppose it is worth considering getting boots + tango to start with and have a support hero buy a courier to share and clarities for you


jugger with boots = 355 move speed so enemy heros will have a hard time escaping from your blade fury

ugh i didnt realize pressing refresh after submitting a comment would make it post again

i still dont like battlefury on yurnero because he need atspd i prefer MoM for the 1st core then travel

boots at the start makes him faster to chase with bladefury

for mana i choose bottle not persiverance

8/10

IMO peace!!

great 10/10

Well, I dunno, good guide I guess..
I found the bullet points confusing, as it was easier to read disregarding them completely... But anyway, it's understandable... I REALLY like the miniguides on creep blocking, warding etc... They are useful for any hero, not just Yurnero, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't know it... However, as for the weak early game part, I think you've got it wrong there... You are a monster early on with Blade Fury, and since no one gets boots, you are all the meanier

However, since this guide is (supposedly) directed at the new players, playing it safe is probably the best choice...
Either way, it's a good guide, and deserving of a 9/10 for me...

Very, very good guide. The ward placement screenshots were very helpful. It might be worth putting skadi in as an option for smaller games because the slow stacks with omnislash and blade fury. Other than that....10/10

I think it's better to replace the HOT with Vladimir... Even if you don't have that much hp the lifesteal you gain can compesate.

whoaa..best strat 4 yurnero so far..
very nice Amplirage!! 10/10!!

NICE!

I have just added item reasonings for Vlads and MoM but it will take some time to be edited in. Meanwhile, I think you all should know that in a real team battle they are gonna disable and kill you before you can even start lifestealing.

Put yourselves in your opponents shoes. If you were a Vengeful Spirit, would you not hurl your magic missle to a hero that has the ability to kill off an entire team? Would you not zap him with Finger Of Death if you were a Demon Witch? Would you not chronosphere him and try to kill him as soon as possible if you were a Faceless Void? In these situations where you are nuked or disabled. TELL me how Vlads or MoM can help you survive compared to HoT?

It is the pure logic of what happens IR games

I agree with CF[X]'s post... where was it... #34 (currently).
Whats he said... Blade-Stats is better, Blade Dance increases your overall damage which is currently not worth increasing, you need the hp and you need the Int to support more BladeFuries.
Also, way too much emphasis on tactics that apply to all heroes in the game - I mean, warding? Just link to the warding guide in the library or something. And Battle Fury should be rushed if you are getting it to farm.
Continued...

Vlads and MoM is for "early game" items.. If it is good for Yurnero (12 omnis, yeh, useful) But you're useless.. Why dont you try Amp's build for him? Its also my build., HoT is a good item for him 'coz, more HP, more survivability.. (knowin' that jugg has a low HP), and to the Battlefury thing, one of the core item of Yurnero, why? Because his 3rd skill will mostly trigger, @Lestat, sorry, dun know that.. Well, i'll juz try it., (but metalic_ghost told me that it overrides)

About Satanic, couldn't you just get Yasha, and not Sange and use it with Satanic?

Lemme seee... you have also kept the old Battle Fury cost in your breakdown there. And you insist on maxing Blade Fury ASAP but do so at lvl8 - I am sure you didn't mean to do that.
You need some good combos for early game! Throw in some mention of such nasty tactics as Shackle-Fury, you touched on Overgrowth-Fury for a second but didn't elaborate.
Sigh why do I have so many cons... one more: using Blade Fury beyond mid game is going to get you killed if they have DPS.
Gah, continued again...

Blade Fury in late game will get you killed because... you would do more damage with your regular attack than you do with Fury, and you can't cast Omnislash whilst in Fury. The last time someone tried to kill me with Fury, I was Pudge. And I killed him without using spells, only my attack, and we were of the same level and item quality.

Oh my god I keep finding things. Screenies are good, but why are 80% of them about warding and blocking? Juggs-only screenies?

It needs work. 7/10 now...

Nice.
Great guide.
As a side note, why BoT instead of threads? Doesn't threads increase the number of strikes?

Anyways 10/10.

I disagree in "BladeFury + Stats", i'd go blade dance as well, even if you do not use your BladeFury, as you said "blade dance increases your overall damage.." you dont need to spam your BladeFury.. Blade dance + BF = good farming., @nemanja, are yah drugs? No BF on Yurnero is somewhat, useless.. btw, SPLASH DAMAGE is for FARMING.. no hard feelings..

Many of the posts here are in item and skill usage.. But then, trying it out in IRG, dunno? will you survive?

its ok if its build is blade fury stats.

I'd rather also take in an over a butterfly... it gives awesome speed and damage and lifesteal. Plus it's much cheaper too.

Amplirage

excellent guide

full off info

well done

get started on my userbar!!!

=]

excellent guide 10/10

nice guide man.. a 10 for me...this build is a real farmer! but like the others i think il consider vlads.

Good thing i read the comments lol

Everything I was going to say was already said by CF[X] and Shim. Fury + Stats is the way to go. Satanic is a nice side option to have because after you Omnislash you'll be around full health. But SnY is nice too

Good guide! 8/10

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Amazing.You explained everything.These are the kinds of guides that I wanna see up more often.10/10.

good guide :)

10/10 loved it always wanted how to play Yurnero properly.
One question I can't farm well with Yurnero and some games don't have money to support the item build

Thanks to the guide, nice images too. 9/10.

The last time I played DotA, my Davion Knight is almost unstoppable. Only an Omnislash killed me. I'll try Yurnero now.

This guide is incredibly detailed and I love it. You really did cover alot in this guide. wonderful. Only bad thing is having blade dance early. Mix fury and the stats up a bit. And I also read some of the comments on lifesteal. All lifesteal does is override the maim. It doesnt override all other effects of S&Y. And vladimir's is NOT an orb effect but an aura. That item is pretty decent since it goes well with your healing ward. Another thing, did you mention that the healing ward(cont..)

(cont..) has a wonderful ability of moving? Don't forget how much it costs to use a healing ward. 140 mp in a 75 sec cooldown. It should be only used when you are sure you can protect it. (that means when you're either in a team, or you've gone on a total rampage) Other than that, I think this guide deserves better than 4 stars.

Well this strategy guide is the best one from the rest of Yurnero guides... That's all I can say... excellent in the putting of images and comprehensive regarding every move of Yurnero... if someone disagrees then it's a matter of perspectives now...

IMO, you really should have a title that says "HERO KILLING". You already have sufficient explanation on how to hero kill of course. fury+omni

Nice strategy, make vlads one of the core items though.

Lion, bane, lina and cm arn't ur worst enemies. They're one of the easiet to kill with juggernaut early and late game.

@ above = Fiend's Grip will work on Blade Fury but deal no damage.

GOOD guide.but I use arcaneRing+healing ward at starting to stop going back for heal rather than animal. With Arcane ring all ur mana problems gone. can activate blade fury almost in notime.

i think you would be better off trying to explain how to use yunero in more detail rather than explaining how to juke,ward,creep block etc, because that's not a strategy for yunero; its a strategy on how to play dota...
hmm..also in your mid-game items..you say that battlefury should be made while you retain just a boot..you attack horribly slow with no items (bfury gives no aspd for eg) and if you say that you farm by last hitting...whats the point of the bfury? you will not be able to escape

with just a boot...nor will you be able to farm neutrals with just the bfury because you have no lifesteal and hardly any decent aspd in order to finish them off quickly...not a bad strategy but I think it's a bit all over the place lol! Because although you state that its a guide for newbies and such..but you elaborate on some techniques that noobs wont be able to comprehend. 6/10

nice seng ming..haha c-riously, ur item is good..

at the poster above me..
arcane ring is such a noob item for yun..by the time you get arcane ring, you will have died by other people because of your lack of stats you will be crippled..get regen items not replenishing items..

Good indepth guide, but i disagree with your skill build. You said it yourself, 'Yurnero is very weak in the beggining,' so wouldn't it be viable to get stats > blade dance in early game? It not only allows extra hp, but the MUCH needed mana to do ur bf + omni combo @ lvl 6.

Also, i think its fundamental to get BOOTS early game. It ensures a first blood with double bf, and lets u escape if your ganked early.

Might wanna rework those thins, but good guide nonetheless! 8/10

Loved it! Mind blowing dude!

@ Shim: I do not wish to link to the library as it costs a lot of time. Many people who read these guides do not actually go on the forums or check out the library so I put it in here.

why not getting him 2 battle fury??

cool...

the skill build and item build..

it's really ME!!

^^

same thinking huh?

good strat..

and i agree with ur disagreement about lifestealing..

SnY is better (hitting -> maim -> kill)

lifesteal (hitting -> they flee -> omni?) a kill every 110 sec? prefer SnY

9/10 for u..

Regardless of this fact, you should be concentrating on Juggernaut's tactics instead of advanced general knowledge. Theres more info on the general side than the Juggs side, which troubles me.

The clearly best yurnero guide here :D
love the item build ;)
agree with shim, you should elaborate more on disable-blade fury, imba for killing.
get boots sooner to get an easy kill with blade fury.
and you should also consider getting healing ward early, because you can spam both healing ward and blade fury with void stone.
get vlads in the items to consider section.

Just for addition, Yurnero is known as one of the fastest firstblood getter. With bladefury he can just spin near the enemy damaging quite painful early. When the enemy comes back just harrass then spin again near him.

I must question why you don't choose Vlad's as one of the item build because as far as i know Vlad is not an orb effect. It is aura lifesteal effect. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Overall a good strategy, though you go on general dota tactics too much.
8/10

i agree with 103, and

gettin blade fury for harrasin early could get you first blood=additional gold..

o well,

just sayin, "diskarte" or brains is your advantage..

you could lifesteal with an orb effect because of vladz... lifesteal+maim

but o well gettin wards early can save you...because if you farmed first for void stone you could harass and heal for early game ^_^

Okay. Those very thoughts crossed my mind too when making the guide. Too bad I didn't have those screenies. I will try to update it when I can. Probably I will include heroes that disable and lane well with him. I will include screenies on how to ambush with Bfury too when I get them, so until then please be patient.

okay thanks ^_^

by the way may when will you do the kael guide?

im excited because no one started one ^^

one more thing amplirage
you stated that you should not get buriza because it overrides your critical.
I don't know what you are trying to say here but from what I know..when the two of them proc, buriza will be the one to override which is good..because it is a 2.2x multiplier which is better than the double damage of your third skill.
but this doesn't mean they work like orb effects and one will not work at all...because they stack and are able to proc with regards to their percentage

which goes to say that Buriza isn't terrible..
I'm not saying you should get Buriza, because what he needs is aspd and 36% to double damage is good by itself but the reason you have stated in NOT getting buriza is kind of misleading and falsifying...

hmm, wouldn't you consider Treads instead? for the increased AS?

OMG! Lies! quote "Yay, you win....and this concludes my strategy guide." but then there a conclusion...i can haz cooky now?

How about getting Vlads first while you're farming, then sell it when you get HoT.

@comment 64
Wouldn't they reserve those spells for your team's mass disabler, or AoE damager? Besides, you don't initiate the battles, so why would they reserve their stuns or ultis when your team's initiator is already in the middle of them and another ally is channeling a high-damage AoE spell. That's when you go in the battle. You'd also be spinning, I doubt they'd wait for it to stop while your alliesownthem.

awww! Didnt nobody read my comments?? and @pinky: How come you don't have a purple bar?

@Fr4g0n: Sorry, what?

awww! Didnt nobody read my comments?? and @pinky: How come you don't have a purple bar?

@Fr4g0n: Sorry, what?

very hardworking and long strategy!I like it man!

Weakining eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gj man i like it...however to take all your item the game must last pretty long or there will be many leavers!!XD

I THINK,, YURNERO SHOULD REALLY BUY BURIZA!! THE CRITICAL WILL BE..... HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!! AND I THINK YURNERO SHOULD ALSO BUY SATANIC,,, WHEN U'RE BEEN CHASE BY A HERO, N UR HP WAS JUST A LINE... USE OMNISLASH,, IT WILL REGAIN UR HEALTH......

sweet guide, liked it really much since u described everything in such details, good job and keep it up

Awesome guide man, good use of screens and everything else. 10/10

ok the jugg expert is here :D. U need to get by level 6: 2 level stat, 3 level bf and omnislash. The stats are for the so called Fury-Slash COMBO. With the stats U have 312 or so exactly wath u need for a guaranteed kill. The early the better who nows maybe first blood :D. IMO stats is the best way to go even for newbs. 9/10

@ tiny_lame = the phrase 'diminishing returns' doesn't mean anything to you does it.

@ amp = will do. Waiting begins.

Amazing guide, but in the beginning there's a SnY icon missing.

By the way you could give more screens showing the better way to use Blade Fury.

10 to you :D

Fellow DotA players... You succeeded in pissing me of... some of you said... get yasha and not sny so you could buy satanic too...
GASH man, sny and Lifesteal STACK... I can`t stress this out..Try it on your own, go make a single player, use -lvlup, get him satanic travel sny butterfly cuirass whatever, go roshan, you`ll trigger at least ONE maim, and still have lifesteal... maim is one triggered blow, and yes, it is the only time you will not leech life, when you maim, but anytime else...

Lol at above comment. Anyways, he's right. Yes the maim and lifesteal from Satanic won't stack but the maim only has a chance to trigger. So when it doesn't trigger you will have the lifesteal as above said. When the main does trigger, lifesteal will be overrided by maim but ONLY when it triggers.

Great strategy Great job man

i hate long guides

Great. 10/10

hehe, I thought you got it from the guide of totallnewbie about juking! but this guide rocks, I didn't know that battlefury can splash criticals! AWESOME!

wow u are the best thankss

Buriza always is the best choice for yunero, it wont overide blade dance.

Nice dude! i love it!! you rock! i like the way you place those wards! nice item eh!

awesome guide man, thanks!!

p.s. that's the coolest Yurnero pic ever!!!

I have a question:
if u have a skill that gives u an opportunity to critical, and u bought Buriza...does Buriza gives u more critical percent to ur skill???

wow... good guy and about that thing u said onmi is good a forest well its not.... cause just walk to creep spawn aand jugg fks up his ulti.... I'll kinda replace MoM for Sny so you can move on to ur butterfly earlier... great job any ways Love u

wow... good guy and about that thing u said onmi is good a forest well its not.... cause just walk to creep spawn aand jugg fks up his ulti.... I'll kinda replace MoM for Sny so you can move on to ur butterfly earlier... great job any ways Love u

good strat but lothars is more appealing to me an invisible fury hurts and a surprise omni is also fun anyway nice guide good job

nice juggy strat

Great Strat!! Clearly described!! Learned lot from it as I am a beginner.

20/10 dude brava brava..

Critcals do not directly stack. The process is called diminishing returns. How it works is that the inbuilt critical comes first, 36%, then the item-based crit/s come after, for example Buriza. And it only triggers on 20% of the time THAT THE INBUILT DOES NOT TRIGGER. 100-36=64, 20% of 64 = 12.8%. You just paid how much for Buriza and it only triggers 12.8% instead of 20%. Therefore, Buriza on Juggernaut or any other critical hero is wasteful.

The next person to ask about this will face wrath.

@above

just wanna say the same thing..
^^

oh yes, how to omni-spin?

i often sees yurnero do omni and spinning..

how to do that?
and how about the dmg?

why battlefury? it sucks.. go radience if you want to creep.. and you should go stats instead of crit earl

Items: Bot, 3 Bracers, S&Y/radience, Butterfly

@comment 124 and 125:

are you sure sange is different from sny? Because lifesteal overrides sny's maim even when it does trigger

@comment 143, BattleFury on Jugg is not "suck", your 3rd skill will have more chance to trigger.. Radiance is still good anyway, but wasteful IMO.. ^_^,

BF does not increase AS by any means and whats shocked me about your statement is "radiance is useless". go read the premium guides on what THEY say about radiance
don't take this personally amp . i just felt sick with what he said

I did not say "radiance is useless", i juz said that radiance to jugg is somewhat optional (not recommended, for me).. If you want to put radiance for him, go fot it.. tsKk.. "good on forums, ign, nonsense!", no bad feelings..

No problem. Been really busy the whole day and just checked up on my guide..hmm somehow my item reasonings for Vlads and MoM didn't show. I think I'll try putting them up again. And CFX, I usually don't take things personally. Actually there is another reason why I don't wish to get radiance when using Juggernaut. It is because while in the jungle, and if you happen to meet a hero, radiance pulls neutrals to Jugg and thus he can't use his ultimate.

@136: Reduced search range for omnislash..

nice guide but i prefer vanguard instead of hood to minimize damage when u trigger blade fury

Nice guide :D
But I have an other itembuild:

Power Treads
Battlefury x2
Vanguard
Butterfly
Satanic

Ooo. Pulls creeps to Jugs, owns Omnislash. I hadn't thought of that. Probably applies to Luna too...

An extremely well presented strategy guide, hands down. I particularly enjoyed the part where you elaborate on yurnero's omnislashing ability :P Thanks for the good advice :P


I wouldn't mind having a game or two with you, you obviously seem quite experienced and obviously know what you're doing :D

Never saw better strategy on DS, congrats man! I just love the way everything is explained, every tiny situation, tip and all the things you have to consider! 10/10 from me =D

THIS STRATEGY IS THE BETTER STRATEGY I EVER SEEN ...............WE ALL SHOULD CONGRTALTE THE MAN FOR HIS BIG EFFORT ............................((THNX MAN))

Awsome i love Yurnero, 9/10

Good job, jugg is a good hero but he is useless against perma bashing heroes :D

Almost the same as my build.

But techinally i don't think the game can last that long before you can buy all those items.

Usually i will get :

1.boots.
2. bfury.
3. butterfly.
4. bfury again.
5. satanic. (lifesteal is important)

Overall good. Late game is not that important if evrything is decided till mid game.

I would add 2 things.

- Creep blocking
Never creep block down(sentinel) or up(scourge)!! Why?! It happens to me all the time .... some1 blocks them and when I get to tower the enemy creaps are at my tower .... I'm like WTF O_O ... shouldn't the creaps meat a little off the tower? So I rly try to last hit as much as I can ... but NO ...Tower gets all last hits just cuz some1 had to block the creeps -->

down. I get 0 last hits only some exp. And things get better .... All enemy creaps are dead and my own creaps push now all up till the enemy tower. The next 2 vawes are then at the enemy tower. The best thing is when your ally autofires and then ur stuck at the enemy tower :( ... Then my Blade Fury feels so useles in souch a situation. Can't go behind tower.

- Helm of the Dominator
If u face souch a situation u may considre to get a HotD asap and go into forest.... get a lvl 5 creep and have

some relaxing farming. U don't steal exp from ur ally and lvl faster cuz of the higher lvls of creaps in forest.

Maybe 2 things to consider. But this things only happen on public games. Who woud dare to pick Jurnero on CW ^_^ lool

some relaxing farming. U don't steal exp from ur ally and lvl faster cuz of the higher lvls of creaps in forest.

Maybe 2 things to consider. But this things only happen on public games. Who woud dare to pick Jurnero on CW ^_^ lool

Good ! Guide 10/10

Wow. Great guide. Very in-depth and nice ward tactics.

nice guide

btw how much ms do you have while spinning?

looks slower

hey great guide man...i love it!...very in-depth n detailed...love d juking technique...hope 2 c another guide 4rm u man...

i got carried away

but the part where immolation would attract creeps is unacceptable, how much did that actually happened?

Good guide.

Nothing to comment about,

since i feel a little sick, probably gonna get fever =.=

But i got some question,

What is immolation ??

Whats the meaning of 'imo'

Well, this mybe out of topic, but i really wan to noe.

For Moderator :

Sry for out topic questions.

@ meanmachine = your movespeed remains the same, it only looks slower because you turn into that massive tornado thing.

WOW great guide
actually best guide i have ever read
i just cudnt stop reading it
10 out of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice but the build is a little wrong,i mean 2 say that yurnero needs wery high AS 2 make his ultimate efective sou try this build,it s made 4 taking out at least 3 heroes.
Treads,butter,satanic,skady,butter and butter.Try this if u know how 2 farm and play at least pro anyway I liked your strategy 810

Ever heard the phrase 'orb effects do not stack'?

In overall, Nice strat man. But i'll consider buriza. I don't care about paying gold for 2 critical. It will makes jugg more deadly in each hit. And if they occur at the same time, the damage will reach 900 in one hit!
And about lifesteal, i think MoM is enough. And i'll consider lothar too

Hey just asking like on comment 142, how to omni spin? because I saw others do that

@ comment 167 imo means= "in my opinion ^_^"

@comment 172: And what part of 'doesn't stack' do you not understand? They DO NOT stack with each other.

Where do you find the library? Great guide 10/10

@ comment 172:
Read Shim's post #141 bro... Crits don't stack.

10/10 the pictures are a great aid to anybody in need of them. Nice skill build, item build, and tips on hunting/killing/farming.

GOOD JOB :D

OMG! Bunch of stupid people... Why get critical when the chance to achieve a buriza crit is decreased? and the 2 crits does not "occur together". DOES NOT STACK MEANS DOES NOT GO TOGETHER. Understand?

noob attempt at trying to win prize nice guide though :P

Nice guide :) it really explains how to use this hero and making him OWN everything else. Sure did take some timeto get through :P Respekt to you for having the energi of writing this guide :D

s&y & vladmir
or satanic)

Great guide 10/10!
But i think instead of a Satanic, why not a vlad? =D
And also, i not a Jugernaut player but i kinda know the time the creep wave will come ^^
It's a good thing too know when you're going to BD.
Nice guide, thanks, help me a lot for playing with Yurneero^^

a working juggs guide woot!
shame i can play juggs, same build i use most of the time although i am quite partial to the stat-crit build, but that doesn't start really working until you have a fury and thus generally doesn't work

hack much lol whole map is shown and u can c invoker =O but exelent strat 9/10

Actually, its called replay..not hack. I played a game or two properly first while saving the replays. Then I just ask it to replay for me while I take screenies.

less one thing.....get life steal items like mom,satanic...but i would recommend vladimir's offering bcoz it is not an orb effect and so it wont affect other skills...
for melee heroes....
LIFESTEAL IS THE KEY TO VICTORY!!!

how to omni spin..

perfect ,what a nice strategy i love it!!

Good guide, although I don't agree with the skill build. Blade Dance can be left for a little later seeing that you don't have the high damage and attack speed to support it early game. I'd rather go for stats along with Blade Fury - they help you with your low HP during early game and also your MP for when you need to combo BF and omnislash.

interesting guild but i believe that healing ward shld come before stats
9/10 for this

Not a bad guide I guess...
But treads is WAY better than BoT for Jugg. You need attack speed, lots of it.

SnY is nice, but Satanic is a better orb.

My build for jugg:
Treads
Butterfly x2
Satanic

I took on 3 people at once with this build, no allies. Killed them all.

Did you realise that Jugg's Crit is better than Mortreds?

Mortreds is better. I have the calculations here, overall increase is 1.36x for Juggs and 1.45x for Mortred.

great guide. ill give it a 20000/10

Hey please answer me how to omni spin..

because i saw it,.

somebody answer me some yurnero experts there ^_^

@ mods/ author

sorry for repeating the same questions again and again

I have not tested it but I believe that when the additional hits take place, you can activate bladefury. So the best way to make it work would be to bladefury during the intervals of the slashes.

not a bad strat. the screenies are good for the noobs of dota.

I just wanna comment on your item build.

i feel that some bracers should be bought since yurnero doesnt have much health. and why SNY? satanic is a much better choice for him late game. he doesnt need maim since he is buying boots of travel and has a higher MS than alot of people?

debatable.

uhm agen, how do I control my unit while omnislashing, to try omni-bldefury?

godhand1607 has just earned a warning. Have a nice day you spamming fool.

Hohoo!!
Great guide totally awesome :D
worked like a dream. Stats in the end was 14/4 (Kills/Deaths) we won even thou we were 3 against 4 (later on it was 2 against 4 when Slardar left) :D
Thanks for great guide!

What does godhand mean by that anyway?
@ced: There is a split-second period between the slashes when you can cast your spell.
@indistinguishable: Then, you will be needing a team with many disables. As for the MS from BoT, I think it is not enough as Yurnero can't orb-walk

Ok thanks I'll try it

thanks for the advice ^_^

WHAT THE !@#$ ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
1. NO DESO/VLADS!?
2. BURIZA DOESNT OVERRIDE YOUR CRIT!
THEY STACK!!! DOUBLE CRIT!!
1/10

WHAT THE !@#$ ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
1. NO DESO/VLADS!?
2. BURIZA DOESNT OVERRIDE YOUR CRIT!
THEY STACK!!! DOUBLE CRIT!!
1/10

^Flaming there oh,
^
^
^

I've tried the omni spin,

and it just needs a really good timing!!

i've done it once ok thanks ampli ^_^

i was just wandering, would a manta style be gud wif him? XD

An excellent guide, Amplirage!!! This awesome strategy guide explains almost everything about Yurnero. Very in-depth indeed!!! I hope you would make more guides that are as elaborate as this one. More power to you!!!

@graham
what shit here?
he didnt recommend buriza at all

That guy: two warnings. A) flame B) spam C) double post D) INCORRECT INFORMATION!!

@yowassup: Manta on him..always saw the old Ai's getting that. Well, It would be fine if every other team mate of yours has a long disable. The criticals will flow.

@ced: Congratz ^^ , great to know it still works, was wondering if they took it away in later versions.

@graham: Everybody has a different item build. There is no 'set' item build for most heroes. It all depends on what you see is important for the game and is all situational. My build is merely what I think is apropriate.

@Amp (post 204), you asked what godhand said.. "bulok" means, it sucks!, Nevermind, he's noob..

Nice strategy. My friend went 1 on 1 with me and I used Yunero but I only killed him times. After this strategy guide im sure that I could kill him like 10!

i have tried to place the ward at roshan just like in the picture, but i could never see him, just the secret shop.
was that just a bug or is it new in the latest version thet you can not put your wards so that you can see rosh?

Uhmm.. Just a suggestion..

I think you are missing certain important points:

1. It is nearly impossible for someone to complete your items in a game..! Gosh! All of your items are expensive!

2. I think lifesteal is way better than sny? why? coz with sny, you only need the increased movement speed and atk speed for your ultimate, I suggest better if you just take yasha and a lifesteal item like Vlad or HOD.

3. IN THE BEGINNING, I STRICTLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU FIRST BUY A BOOTS OF SPEED!

Um just asking, is it better to use 2 Batte Furys instead of a Battle Fury and SnY on Yurnero? I'm not sure if the effects of 2 Battle Furys would stack...Someone please help me out....Thank you

Nice Strategy! 10/10

@ Paladin = Furies stack directly with each other and heroes' inbuilt splash abilities. If you get Juggernaut two Furies, you get 35+35=70% splash. Conversely, three Furies is 105%.

clearly one of the best guides out here, this will soon go to the top guides list :D

@auron: He already has Ms that beats many heroes in the game. As for items, it is the BEST that you can get if you follow my guide. Usually I don't even finish it. Even so, it works well.

@paladin: Yes, listen to shimrra. People get double bfuries for the regen and the high damage output. Get another if your wish to end the game fast and you are pushing at their base already.

This Hero must die if it's enemy.
Good guide.

hmm thought furies stacked diminishingly..so you can go over 100%?

good

Bladefury tips
ermm... we omnislash twice???

Hi Amplirage, great strat. Just my 5 cents. I normally up my stats with bladefury to boost hp, manna and speed until level 8. And with just a ring of basilus, I can kill an enemy for every level from level 6 onwards. My foes were lycantrope, medusa and netherdrake.

But I keep close to the tower and I always save my omnislash when the enemy hero is running away. So I disagree that Yunero is a late hero bloomer. He's a mid-hero killer.

Gr8 guide....The ammount of effort put in can be seen and will help alot of begginers *including me*..lol...but y go for s&y over satanic..the hp n lifesteal is quite useful..if i play yunero i get satanic instead of s&y...buy since u say s&y is betta i'll try this guide out...n mayb go with a vladmir's...i dunno y but i fill lifesteal is efficient with heroes who can deal gud critical strikes...all in all a very helpful guide n mayb one of the most complete guides in this website...10/10 man!!!

Oh ya and one more thing...
u were pawning invoker in one of ur screenies....i like invoker man....
nvr do tht to invoker again...
pity the poor fella...lol...
and pls do post screenshots on ur jukingspots...
it will help alot..
thx..tc

i give you 10 of 10.
strategy is good but only thing i would do in beggining is rising some stats instead blade dance, because he has low str and this would help a lot and blade dance is just critic it doesnt matter much in early game. consider this and let me know

@cromiky
I agree with you dude, stats is better den blade dance in early game as Jugg is helplessly low in HP.

Also maybe can try getting threads and S&Y first before anything else as tat will give u the HP and AS you need to own early in the game and not juz late game. 10/10 guide for its clarity and effort. P.S HP is vital for Jugg maybe can consider bracers early on also.

@cromiky
I agree with you dude, stats is better den blade dance in early game as Jugg is helplessly low in HP.

Also maybe can try getting threads and S&Y first before anything else as tat will give u the HP and AS you need to own early in the game and not juz late game. 10/10 guide for its clarity and effort. P.S HP is vital for Jugg maybe can consider bracers early on also.

@cromiky
I agree with you dude, stats is better den blade dance in early game as Jugg is helplessly low in HP.

Also maybe can try getting threads and S&Y first before anything else as tat will give u the HP and AS you need to own early in the game and not juz late game. 10/10 guide for its clarity and effort. P.S HP is vital for Jugg maybe can consider bracers early on also.

Think its funny that double crit got shot down because once every so often 2 crits fire..."sigh" To tired to explain

Good job man!

great man.... i admire u

good guide but my item 4 yurnero is batle fury,butterfly,s n y, valdi,lothars,BoT or Treads.. o_O

Thanks for the help, Shimrra....

awesome strat man

shoes as first item is actually a must for yurnero to chase with heroes with his spin, and at level 6, spin then omni

The biggest flaw in this guide is its complete disregard for vladimir's which is an amazing item for Yurnero

A decent guide, but Buriza does NOT override Blade Dance. What happens is that both crit chances will check on each attack, and both has a chance to proc. If both procs on the same attack, the LATEST aquired critical effect will override any other.

This means that for PA, Buriza = shit since her initial crit modifier is HIGHER than that of Buriza. For Jugger and Slithice, Buriza = good since their initial crit modifier is LESS than that of Buriza's.

wrong
using dota calc, i have dtermined MKB on jugg gives 100 more DPS and worst, it's fucking cheaper

@mortensen: So you wanna pay roughly 6000 gold for an additional 0.2 critical? How very smart..

@all: It seems many people wanna get boots. People!! hello! have you looked at the changelogs recently? Yurnero's ms is now 305..and you just need to get beside em and follow to kill. The only way to do that against experienced players is to sneak behind them..not run up to them..

@Amplirage

You dont get it, it stacks...

You get both the intial crit chance and the one for the 2.2 Buriza modifier

So what you're saying is you will get a 4.2 crit? Is that it?

@Counter_Force[X]

Funny, I just did the same and MKB adds less dps in any scenario I came up with

@Aplirage

No not at all

First it checks Buriza 's chance for crit. If it crits it ignores Blade Dance. If Buriza doesn't it checks Blade Dance.

Basicly you just get 2 checks for a crit on each attack, but they cannot happen both at the same time. If they do, the latest overrides (which in this case is Buriza).

@Aplirage

No not at all

First it checks Buriza 's chance for crit. If it crits it ignores Blade Dance. If Buriza doesn't it checks Blade Dance.

Basicly you just get 2 checks for a crit on each attack, but they cannot happen both at the same time. If they do, the latest overrides (which in this case is Buriza).

I think I get what you mean. When your crit doesn't activate, the item crit can activate, and when they activate concurrently, the better crit overrides.

Well then, you will be throwing a LOT of money down the drain. Why? Because Yurnero's critical has one of the highest chances to occur..its 36% for crying out loud...and plus, the chance for buriza to activate has diminishing returns..meaning its only 20% chance that it will occur on the 64% that blade dance doesn't occur.

I never said it was the best item for Jugger, but the guide says the Buriza crit does not work with Blade Dance which is not true.

Still, it's not a bad item either and the Buriza crit is checked first, not Blade Dance.

With Buriza you get a 49% crit chance instead of 36%, and 20% of the time the crit will be 20% bigger than usual. I'd take it over MKB any day unless I need the interupt.

Battle Fury
Assault Cuirass
Hyperstone
Hyperstone
Boots of Travel
Heart of Tarassque

while I do agree w/ the last 4 items in the inventory I pretty much hate sange yasha on him. You'll wanna go for a deso (no one favors this item)since he deals physical damage with omnislash. Battlefury? try MKB(for more kill) or BKB(force them to fight you with no spell it a sure kill for this guy) another is he wouldn't be able to perform his fury omni combo at lvl six cause of poor mana w/ no Attri bon.
and creep blocking is against the rules that icefrog has stated

Just a small addition to the viability of Buriza from the raw math.

The crit chance of Jugger with Buriza and lvl 4 Blade Dance is 48.8%.

The dps increase of Blade Dance is 36%

The dps increase of Buriza crits is 24% (excluding the +dmg part).

Since Buriza crits override Blade Dance crits when both procs at the same time the total dps increase of the combined crits is 52.8%, meaning that the gain from Buriza crits is only 12.3% compared to 24% on heroes with no crit ability.

nice strat!

i hope it will work in my game tomorrow!

BTW nice explanations on everything!
hmmm.. will you please make a killer strat for krobelus!

tnx man!

the best yunero strat i have ever seen great job 5/5

12.3% gain on Juggs, versus 24% gain on most heroes, meaning that it is decidedly wasteful to get on critical heroes versus others. On the other hand, if you happen to have... two Rapiers or something... getting an extra 12.3% is far better than MKB's 30% for an extra 100 damage, which seems puny in comparison.

Very nice ! i try it later !

What are you talking about? 30% for 100 extra dmg is 30 extra dmg on average. For 12.3% to top that you "just" need 244 base damage. If you already have a Butterfly (which you would obviously get before either MKB or Buriza) you will have this.

kewwl
11/10

mortesn
thats because you didnt factor the price

and magical dps from proc damage

pretty good start, u could also explaint hat by anticipating enemy movements, u can make ur entire bladefury hit the opponent, also the creeps block could be better

Great guide,this hero is amazing.

@Counter_Force[X]

True, I forgot about that. However, including price differences you would need less than 270 base damage. Following the guide you would at least have S&Y, Butterfly and Battle Fury before even considering MKB/Buriza.

This means that if you are in a position to consider whether to go MKB or Buriza with Jugger you are already pushing on the good side of 300 damage per hit.

i just wanna add.. i dont know if this was already mentioned. Blade fury and travel is very good in escaping ganks..

Items are subject to the very game your playing, quit being noobs, if you walk into a game thinking butterfly is what u want then I wouldnt want you on a team that matters, mom/cryst/vlads vs other agility/intel is very very effective, so is getting 3 tier 4 items....you guys argue about item sets that dont see the light of day 90% of the time... quit being dumb and feeding noobs this garbage.

You guys know the math of the game and everything, prob play everyday but the most simple things of dota totaly blow over your heads, everything is good at certain times, base your whole style off 1 single mind set, lol! triple crit jugs rule so do butterfly manta, just stfu about item lists and explain the char

You guys know the math of the game and everything, prob play everyday but the most simple things of dota totaly blow over your heads, everything is good at certain times, base your whole style off 1 single mind set, lol! triple crit jugs rule so do butterfly manta, just stfu about item lists and explain the char

SORRY! gd work comp fking dells and this stupid ass connection sorry about spam! delete them if u can

@mortesn
true, however read ninja's posts though he flames

mkb/buriza would be like the last item the guide maker would make, this generally means the faster he finishes it the better, and therefore buriza is not yet worth it compared to few items which gives almost the same amount of DPS

cool this guide is decently new. btw, i would substitute satanix for heart, because dps heroes need lifesteal.

Good in depth guide. Your item build is more of a farming build though as i reckon treads are better than BoT when pushing. also BKB would be better than hood and Satanic could take the place of heart as his insane attack speed coupled with crtis gives him loads of lifesteal.

Good in depth guide. Your item build is more of a farming build though as i reckon treads are better than BoT when pushing. also BKB would be better than hood and Satanic could take the place of heart as his insane attack speed coupled with crtis gives him loads of lifesteal.

hmm a great strategy indeed,10/10 from me .Of course i have a suggestion...in the "dream build" u have rather aegis or HoT but satanic is much better cause with the other items ur AS and dmg are beyond godlike! u cant be possibly killed by anyo