Sexyrexy02's Comprehensive Lich Guide.
Created by sexyrexy02 on 2008-04-20
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Nice guide, decent strategy
I don't think that the refresher is a good idea though. Too expensive and the cooldown is ridiculous. Good job !
nice...but without refresher
I think this strategy is good, better than others !
Still, I miss the refresher. :)
GJ !
wow, a lich strat! Nice guide!
I really like ur chain frost guide
nice work!
though i would rather level up dark ritual first (DR,FN,DR,FN...) than nova Sometimescoz you can spam frost nova and you won't be lacking mana coz of dark rit.
even though the nova is not very strong, u can use it without worrying bout ur mana...and u can haraas more
Nice guide,, but can't see the screenies^_^
well, i honestly think mekansm is situational... and i prefer refresher..
Nice guide but i think frost armor should make his debut earlier then just on the last levels. It really helps in mid game with armor and its defencive against melee attackers
nice guide
u buy meka but u dont go for frost armour?
8 armour is nothing weak. all-in-all good guide would give 7
get frost armor. with shivas and mek it makes him a beAST. plz put it in at level 10 12 13 and 14. 9/10 til then
get frost armor. with shivas and mek it makes him a beAST. plz put it in at level 10 12 13 and 14. 9/10 til then
Once you have Shivas, you better have maxed out Frost Armour,
You can tank sooo good,
you ahve like 2k+ hp with like +40 armour.
I like Lich with BoT
Since Frost armor was buffed pared with Shivas guard meakes u a fat tank
Linken is also good item on lich..
with shivas mekansm and frost armor u have +32 armor, and melee heroes are SOOO slow, due to frost armor AND shivas
I like this strategy a lot! Explains a lot of things, however the screenshots are just in their URL form on my screen, so I can't see them. 10/10 anyways!
Great guide, I used to play this character before trying to experiment with other characters. I know this is correct and great guide 10/10
in your late game section you say these aren't items to use but for items 4-7 you have good points about the items, not why you shouldn't have them
basically your saying their bad but pointing out why they're good, a conflict of interest
i would recommend moving frost armor up from 21-25 because it is useful if used right and would help in the final push
good strat otherwise
nice doable build
great definition of skills and uses
10/10
Good guide overall, I like how you have actually referenced caspian's guide instead of just pretending its not there. The Chain Frost guide sounds good but I bet it'd be even better if your pictures decided to work (they're not).
As long as you're expanding on the nature of Chain Frost, why not throw in summoning heroes into the list of 'don't target' - Broodmother, Visage, Prophet, Dirge, etc, seeing as the Chain will just mow the summons and leave the heroes.
Continuing...
The cons! Only two, luckily for you.
Firstly - Power Treads?? Why... seeing as Lich is a caster and all that, you need BoT. Not to mention you have Mek and Soul Booster->Sceptre for hp already, plus the armor from Mek and Frost Armor, which leads to my next point...
...no Frost Armor? Consider taking at least lvl1, because that is enough to save yourself or an ally from melee foes who are chasing you. But getting it at lvl10 12 13 14 is a good way to make you and your allies tank.
Continuing!
As I failed to finish saying above, I am pretty sure a good-sized part of the Lich-Mek build is to have Frost Armor, because you give your allies both of those and viola, they have lots of armor.
All that aside, all you need to do is fix the screenshots and maybe give a better reason for Treads (or just change it) and I would say 10/10. No screenies = 9.
best strategy for lich...afcourse..gj man!!
WHATS WITH THE TREADS?
WHATS WITH THE NO LEVEL 1 ARMOR?
WHATS SO COOL ABOUT SHIVA?
First of all, PT lich is somewhat looking into the ol pub battle mage which sucks on lich, in short i'll say
NO
as shim said, you need at least 1 level of FA even if you're skipping it. the melee slow is undeniable super useful
shiva? and this stage of the game it's almost useless. i would rather spend on guinsoo. and shiva's concept does not suit lich. lich is sommmeone who should keep safe range and go in to
heal allies that is if you get mek
sitting in the middle of a battle just to use shiva isn't practical for a hero like lich. leave shiva to cm
overall good but to me it's pretty much of a point guide
Nice guide though.. ^_^,
(I'd hard time copy-pasting the screenshots)

A very nice and decent guide here, I only have some questions to be answered though.
Why did you go threads? although a quick HP bonus would be good, I think that BoT is still better. BoT would make running better and you already did meka which should be enough to take a nuke. If you really want HP, go bracers. Also lich should buy chicken for the team as he is not item dependent early on. 8/10 for me
Some things here :
Number 1 -
The scenario you are talking about using Chain frost if there are at LEAST 2 heroes. You will rarely see that.
Number 2 -
Since Chain frost has a low cooldown, do not wait for scenario -Number1-
Number 3 -
Do not hesitate to use Chain frost if there is 1 hero and maximum 2 units to bounce on. That is enough to kill non-HoD users if done correctly.
Number 4 -
Again, Chain frost has a low cooldown!
Abuse it!
good strat... :p
but i still wonder about PT
and shiva...
and i think lich needed frost armor at least one to avoid chasers (cold effect when attacked)
just a comment
does frost armor stack with shiva?
i like the guide ^^
but frost armor should be made sooner.
and i prefer guinsoo or eul's before shivas.
Omg. This must be the worst Lich guide so far. Power Treads is a joke. It's BoT or nothing. You'll get enough HP from a Meka and Agha and if you need HP early then get a brecer. NEVER Power Treads, it's vital that you can TP around the lanes and support/gank alot. That's Lichs roll. And Frost Armor is very good mid game to help you survive, mainly vs meele heroes.
not he best but nice ulti guide
I find no use for a refresher or PT... Refresher is too expensive and it has too long a cooldown time. And chain frost only has a 60 second cooldown. It's really not as long as you think. and umm... pt? why? Since you suggested a refresher, why have pt still?
Good strategy, but the Power Treads/Frost amour parts bug me. You should get frost armour at the beginning of late game because that's when lich moves into his role as support.
PT for lich??
BoT will match for lich
I recommend not to use aghanim(if the game not last too long) bcoz it's too expensive. Get guinso/orchid will be better
nice guide anyway
Shit guide. Mek = no. Frost armor before stats. BoT instead of treads.
Just a quick question. With Frost Ritual, is it % of total HP, or current HP?
1. Dark Ritual
2. Frost Nova
3. Frost Nova
heheh i love that,hell sometimes i do ritual nova ritual.
EAT DENY.
once i was lucky enough to do that in 1 v 1. got dagon. they barely survived early game :P
@EagleM:
base hp
(i can't see the pictures, why?)
I would have agreed on shiva's guard if and only if you have spent at least a point on frost armor. The melee slow is a great advantage for you. Boots of Travel can help you go around the map killing heroes/defending the base. Power Treads won't be useful because you won't use your attack oftenly.
the other lich guide was pretty good, but I think this one is just a little bit more detailed, especially about chain frost. 9/10, cuz i cant see any of your screenshots!
no frost armor
.it slow melee enemy 2 sec when they attack u!!!u need this u know?
one more thing,shiva guard?emmmmmm i never buy it,i rather buy RO.that better.
lich.. HE'S SUX!!!! HE JUST NEED TO BUY REFRESHER AND AGHANIM...... AND EVRYONE WILL DIE!!! JUST USE THE ULTI,, REFRESH UR ULTI,, N USE IT AGAIN!! IT WILL BE A GODLY DAMAGE!!!
if you have mekansm in your build, that means you make him a suporter...though, you put power treads, instead of BoT, so decide, do you want to make him suport or battle mage?
and another thing, you should put frost armor at lvls 12-15 if you mentioned mekansm... I don`t quite understand your build, gameplay, anything...
Well the guide is pretty nice, yesterday i m using lich with 12-1 in an ar game(bot, scepter,guisoo) i tried make shiva but my teammate puck have it so fine
I disagree with spell build. I think lich needs to have frost armor mid game for slow and plus armor because of how fragile intellingence heroes are.
best w/ trent!!!
nc guide 9/10...
y do you use threds ?
kip up
At least 1 frost armor! BoT is bette rfor lich, then PT, because u dont really need attack speed.
Weakness of chain forst is very very slow projectile speed.
Also, i think Hex is better than shiva, because, as you mentioned, Lich is an early hero, so in late game, its better to get a disable.
nice strat but don't you prefer boots of travel to power treads? its really easy to escape too. overall good job.
Good job, but refresher is a very good item on lich. In a team fight, 60 seconds is a long time to wait to re-use your ult. With a refresher you can pave through the enemy and help your team push.
nice but on the recommended allies you wrote PotM twice^^
i like refresher orbs, one chain to kill the creeps and one for the heroes ^_^
anyway it is a good guide.
@shim
the revs get fully fledged spell immunity at level 3 and are to hard to mass summon when needed, dirge and proph are the real problems, mainly dirge because he becomes tank.
Yeah it's definitely true that Double ULTI is devastating - it's just my feeling that due to the level 16 ULTI CD of 60 sec, I'm not so sure how 'worth it' it is, but if a game goes for a very long time then why not!
My choice for Treads over BoT is that well the character guide is focused on the idea that Lich is an earlier game hero therefore needs quicker item buys and quicker stat boosts. 2200 needs to farmed continuously (continuing next comment)
(continued) However the Treads can be bought in 3~4 different occasions, each giving Lich the 'quick' performance boost that he needs earlier on; attack speed, movement speed, health and buying the actual recipe.
I talked to one of the mods about the picture thing they told me to change it and the state it is in now was what they wanted >< I guess it's not working.. better get it fixed up!! (continuing once more)
You guys will notice that the guide is written in 3 Steps; Early, Middle, Late game.
The stat/skill build has a lot to do with this as well because I'm more concerned with increasing Lich's damage output earlier on to middle game - You'll see that Early has more aggressive objectives in contrast to mid and late where it says 'support role'
It is all mainly because Lich is an early gamer and this is how I interpreted Lich's playstyle.
Thanks for reading guys!!
(Quick Comments)
@bananaattack
You have AWESOME eyes!
- :( maybe I just don't like BoT ><
- Aggression is the main objective of Early game, Mekansm was thrown in to power up Lich's survivability earlier on.
- I've seen Lich's Frost Armour spell in action (of course I have! to test out for this guide, I would have tried to approach every angle as possible!) many-a-times I've seen timed last hits/denies fail just because they didn't have a +1 +2 damage. (continuing)
(continuing)
The other reason that Stats > Frost Armour Earlier game is because in this guide I'm more focused on flinging damage ><
I hope I've answered all the Questions!
i think refresher will do if u are fighting against more than 3 heroes...
nice strategy..
but it takes too long to owned
power treads?
oh 10 str is imba (?)
BoTs for runnig away chasing, etc is much more effective
armor 22 23 24 25? omg that ability is AWESOME for pushing very cheap and good with mekans
great guide, everything is awesome, basic skills are great to new players which most other guides lack
i think skadi rocks late game even if it costs a lot, it makes the lich an ultra slower, which means he can support and chase and kill with no problem early, and if played correctly mid and late. still, i agree u should support mid-late game cuz nukes less affective. overall, good guide 9/10
fragile? lich is an early game tanker, IF he stay in mid lane, IF he lvl up faster than other in mid lane, IF he have frost armor early game.
my usual built is,
1 DR
2 FN
3 FN
4 DR
5 FN
6 CF
7 FN
8-10 stat [leave DR on lvl 2, trust me all u need is only that much mana to harass]
11 CF
12-15 FA
16 CF
17-23 stat
24-25 DR
geting the stat in lvl 8-10 gives u quite a boost in hp and mp pool.
emm well anyway i'm not trying to say your built is wrong, i think it's good.
great job.
Treads? are u kidding me...
Mecanism
Bracerx2
Travel
Blink
Scepter
Refresher
double chain with ang scepter can wipe out 4 or 5 heros at once
nice nice,
I played lich several times and its a super heroe!!
Your strat is nice, i herras with FN and use ulti asap when several r around and end with FN.
I just use a more simpel build
- A.septer
- treds
- Refresher
- AC/eye S./SG
In team battles with refresher its GODLIKE..1v1 your crap late game..
8/10
I wan to ask, y not farm dagon first then mekanism as mekansm doesn't increase any damages in attack...
In my opinion, it's not a bad guide but not a perfect one either. If you get Mekansm, Frost Armor should be your priority skill after Frost Nova and Dark Ritual are maxed. I'm still working on my Lich guide.
My core build is a pair of Bracers, Mekansm, and Boots of Travel. From there one, it depends on what I need. If I'm needed as a heavy nuker, I get Aghanim's and Refresher Orb. If I'm needed as a tank, I get Shiva's Guard and Aghanim's. After picking my role, I go onto Guinsoo's or Eul's.
You also stated that you prioritize Stats over Frost Armor because you want to deal damage. Lich already has a nice Intelligence gain per level. Lich's method of dealing damage is not with normal attacks, but with spells. If Lich's method of dealing damage was by using normal attacks, I'd expect some kind of ASPD improving items. Of course, everybody knows Lich uses spells to dominate enemies and the ASPD idea would be completely unorthodox.
Very good guide, one change i would make is getting frost armor instead of stats because 8 bonus armor!!!! very usefull!!! GG
8/10
good explanation.
thanks for this strategy
10/10
Nice Comment it Makes me HOLYSHIT to my enemies
ang haba'


