Lestat9208`s Guide to Sabertooth Mommy

Even though the author is now banned, this guide is still technically included in the DotActics contest. Please note that we published this guide just to spite the author and because I feel very mean today.

lol
very low strategy on elune, which is the heart of mirana
this is pretty much item build guide

Great Guide!!! Highly researched. I was waiting for somrthing like this on Mirana.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah the part when u were talking bout the hroes with the pics.the "gay heroes" part rikimaru and bounty.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah the man good strategy too 10/10

So...this guide is the one that was plaguarized?

no
that one was his juking guide

Ah I see..this one is mediocre at best..I think he repeats a lot of things and just says too little. The points are there but are not elaborated on. Screenies for arrow and leap usage would have been a great addition.

Woo items over content. Yea I do not like this at all. 4?

6/10

What happens if this guide wins? Does Lestat still get his shirt?

A great strat on mirana, somebody had to write a gud guide.. totally agree with your build 10/10

What a sad guide

No bottle BoT Skadi HoT

I don't like it really

comment on ulti is also copy/pasted from other site [ DP I think]

5/10

._. not pretty much a guide without pics LOL even if he did tell us to go to "ALL MIGHTY YOUTUBE" Lol still should have made pics..... why.... he could have explain some indepth facts about mirana

T_T the font is too big we arent blind you know

If i wasnt really busy right know id make a guide but instead i have to review to get a better school in college >_> which still i play dota everyday and study 1hr or 30 min

haha my friend`s guide
user banned I`ll give it a 10/10 because it`s good and the replays rock ^^
really you should see them

this quide was plaguarised?

@ To Amp, CF[X]
nothing is more gay than to speak about a person when the person hasn`t have the power to fight back...
consider this an advice

My intention is not to be the lawyer of Lestat
BUT
you shouldn`t more from mirana, and after all, guides are made to be used by n00bs, not by pros, pros should dowload replays from gotfrag

i have the freedom to speak so what?
well i hold no grudge against him, i didnt say anything bad either

yes i use gotfrag
but still, you dont know how he advertised his guide as the oh greatest potm guide ever

lol, arcane should be replace after you get linken, because linken is more useful than arcane ring, so sell arcane ring then go for tarassque, look at the pict above, the current build pict, look at mirana's life, 1974? haha, if you go for tarassque it would be 2800+?

no bad for her build, but i suggest getting boots of travel after you buy butterfly, butterfly gives attackspeed so sell treads and go for travel,

maybe he meant greatest guide here
cuz it is ya kno`

i get it

I reserve the right to hold a grudge against a flamer...

No seriously, how does one use Elune's Arrow based on this guide?

"1. Get near your tower, on one side.

2. Aim and throw Elune`s arrow"


Very helpful...

Well, I really don't like the fact that this guide has no screenshots. It also emphasises too much on items, with no guide on how to use her ELune Arrow or Ulti properly. 5/10

please take note that there`s a link to 2 very good replays... what d`you need screenies??

I recommend skadi and mjolnir on Mirana, the orb effect of skadi is only cancelled whenever thunder activates

@Dark: Are you another one of lestat's accounts? Sigh....I didn't say anything bad and was dissapointed when I saw it. The early preview he gave held some promise.

I recommend skadi and mjolnir on Mirana, the orb effect of skadi is only cancelled whenever thunder activates

Why do others say that Mjollnir is a bad item for Mirana?

lol like I said before on a forum and I say now, not really detailed and no help in actually using the hero, just some rant about past builds and such. 4/10

this guide is not the guide is not that good first elunes arrow is not well discussed w/c is the heart of mirana and mainly his ganking and finishing nuke the starfall strat is okay and 2nd if you are going to run for linken arcane should not be taken i know it is taken for the starfall but bottle itself is more than enough so i think this strat is not that good but it could gone have better if it is more research well
no offense to the strat maker it is my opinion!!

lol... mirana's history is as long as the guide itself...


"Same with her ASPD, let`s face it, she`s far from beeing Luna like at this chapter."
- comparison??.... IMO this is not a thread to compare heroes..

lane scenario
razor, luna, KotL, traxex.
"There`s no way these hero could outstand/outsmart you, in case you`re a complet idiot, well, that`s a relief huh?"

these guys can either kill you or get you to the fountain early game.

to be continued..

this guide is not the guide for newb,its not that good,first elunes arrow is not well discussed w/c is the heart of mirana and mainly his ganking and finishing nuke the starfall strat is okay and 2nd if you are going to run for linken arcane should not be taken i know it is taken for the starfall but bottle itself is more than enough so i think this strat is not that good but it could gone have better if it is more research well
no offense to the strat maker it is my opinion!!

Nice guide,

but it's more of an item build guide on mirana..

but the replay's great ^_^

offtopic:
I wish my traxex guide will be accepted na... ^_^

i think this guide is pretty good, but i like bottle instead of arcane and skadi after mjollnir.
and for those who says this guide lacks screenies and explanation on how to use elunes: screenies on mirana doesnt help you. he helped you the only way he could, with a replay. and he said that the only way to learn how to use elunes is practice. agreed!

you can see my profile and convince yourself that I AM NOT LESTAT
I agree... this is an item guide more than a hero guide...
and it`s not detailed... I just liked the replays, that`s it....
I`ll say no more, but this guide will help the average noob

@Shimra, please explain with words how to shoot an arrow... or evn with pictures... *cough*

continued-
screenies is really a big plus for readers for heroes like mirana, IMO

at least put pics of how to avoid projectiles, how far is the range of a max elune's arrow,range of leap.

starfall is not only for farming,killing,KS...
i use it to harass,if you see at least 2 creeps with low hp that can be killed by your SF and your opponent is at range dont hesitate use it unless your saving your mana for something much more important.

5/10

p.s. this is my opinion.. so dont flame ^^

ohh
is it me or no people realised that if you leap to melee range and use starlight, you deal a 600 nuke?

Somehow I'm not convinced that you aren't Lestat, considering that he evidently doesn't care about screwing with the mods. On the other hand, a person new to the site wouldn't know either and I've never seen you before...

You want to know how to use Elune's, look here:
http://www.dotastrategy.com/strategy-4940-ArrowsfromtheShadows.html

if you want to make a potm guide, please do it proper. This guide has pretty damn poor information on how to use elune's arrow which is mirana's defining skill. And another thing, do you use your arrow to farm early game? No. So why bother adding it early before starfall? Starfall as the author stated is a good hero harrasser and yet it isn't pumped...?O.o I see no need for a bracer either. since leap is added at level 1, I'm pretty sure you can escape a gank untouched.

and to people who favour maelstrom. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would want to have a mjollnir on potm at all. sny is easily more important since it gives you wonderful chase speed. Plus, the threads are kinda of a joke. BoT all the way for potm if you're gonna get a bfly. potm is an excellent hero killing and pusher late game. lets see... another thing, mkb? bullshit... Go straight for a buriza. meh, this whole guide doesnt make much sense to me... And to the mods, please be nicer.

Give the man [Lestat] some credit. I mean.. He did type all of that.

Mojilnir is nice.. I use BoT for PotM. Too bad the author was banned, no ratings then

he don't need arcane ring..
i think better get skadi after mjolnir beacause it will give extra hp and slow effect..

off-topic: lol the last 7 guides have the teeth of the hero showing.

some of the heroes in the best case scenario like razor, keeper of the light, will eat her alive....

and

no emphasis and guide on how to use ulti and elune's arrow

If you make a PotM guide you have to include a guide on arrow... or else it just isn't a guide.

ppl here seems that you can become an expert on elunes arrow just buy reading..
to use it properly, you need PRACTICE!
and Lestat said this many times during his guide.

He's gone but the strategy is up. orochi is mean... lol

not really good i think. it really emphasizes the item build section which has too random item selection.

hmmm. yes. some tips on the skill usage (EA) would have been nice, but good guide at least.

OFFTOPIC: sigh. what happened? why was he banned anyway?

this is so noobish item build(arcane ring wtf?, linken replace with skadi and than it will be better)
5/10

You are discussing the item build too much, instead of focusing on guiding people to use the arrow correctly.

Still i don't think it's too bad, 7/10

lmfao it's stupid explaining to people how to arrow properly.

unless you're retarded, practice will make perfect

agreed, enmity.

lol orochi is so mean...

Uhmm this strategy kinda sucks...I like the other mirana strategy like the one Shimrra_3 advised...My friend can do better arrows than that...

This guide is terrible it over emphasizes items it has no what STRATEGY like wtf?

Gay Heroes Riki and Bh lol..
Anyways nice guide gzgz

Nice guide! But.... Yes it's the But. Arcane is really useless late game. Why not add on another item for damage or hp like a heart

lol at the spite posting.
really lacking arrow shooting information, really he basically says, hide, point, click, PRAY!

focusing on 8 or so different item builds, telling you half of them are crap..
so 4 builds...
then little to no strategy.

at least he put lots of effort into the bits he did do well.

Author banned? Feeling evil? Plagiarized? Hmmmm....
I don't like this guide though.......6/10, 7/10?

yay 62nd comment (love the gay heroes bit invis dudes)

i meant 63

@(comment above)
u shuld've sed 64 cos it wos the 64th comment wen u corrected ur self lol

@ this strat/..

ive seen wot ppl say about y arcane ring nd linkens...
i can c y its there cos itl help u notdie against most skill. e.g skeleton king hell fire blast is wot fuks most ppl up wen i use it,
rogue knight hammer thing.. also fuks ppl up wen i use him,
sniper... ulti.. u can kinda c wotl happen cos even if u do leap away he stil has 2500 range at lvl 3 ulti.

then arcane ring.. give u enuf mana to cast all ur skills.
BUT
skadi is stil beta for me wen i us this hero becos...

becos.../
/... it give slow after uv used ur arrow nd u may even miss wen u use it so u suk....
but u can stil keep up cos they slow down...
and it give 25 stats wich is about..a bunus 200-300 mana and about the same bonus hp nd also att speed nd dmg cos the agi bonus.....



soooooo it say a solid...
6/10

"The Stupid Lifesteal buy" is really stupid beacause lifesteal overrides maim? :o

I really lik ur presentation very good.

Somethings i dun agree. Acaine ring is not that good. Get some1 in ur team to get 1 for u perserverance is better as it helps u. Dun need bracers u can kill them fast enough and u have 2 escape tools. Linken is better. Liked the start. Why vanguard??? ur not goin to tank that much? Ur a nuker so they will die fast. since mana is low lvl ur starfall after u max out leap and arrow. Also u should be able to hit the arrow easyly. should link to youtube. XD.

Nice build but like most i prefer SKADI instead of linken. SKADI and Mjolnir: perfect mirana items

One of the best strategy's i have ever seen. add some screenshots to make it even better. thanks Lastat9208!!!

very poor guide..

@71, Lestat is banned..

LOL they post this out!! haha!!

Anyway, 6.7 / 10..

*sigh*

not really like this hero.......maybe i noob but anyway 7/10 for item build

did anybody see the replays??

stupid mirana guide, THE ONLY TRUE GUIDE is YOUTUBE.nedraptor and holy hexor videos

Lacks elune's arrow guide but your item builds is very good.

well, skadi + mjo is a great combination =)

well skadi+mjol is 14k
my full brad items sums up to only 13k
and it has boots

Could be worse. I like the build. Im sure it works well. 7/10

This could've been much interactive if the author answers some post (sigh). too bad he's out

i got to where i am by watching only youtube videos
if I knew how to id post a replay for rating

at the strat
the item build and suggestion to youtube are good but otherwise nothing special

sad. not much given tips and item build common for me at least arrow shooting can be given some tips and tricks

Why is the author banned?

Plagiarising

Lol gay heros, so true

abosloute crap

what you should try

bottle
bracerx2
boots
linkens sphere
traves
sny
bfly
skadi
cuirass ultimate potm

No screenshots which I expected you to have, like others have said item guide build, and another thing in early game heroes you want to be against, "Basically, heroes with strong nukes, fat hp, or crazy DPSers will give you quite a hard time". You have included 1. KOTL, so a 500 damage nuke does nothing? 2. Nevermore Can 900 damage nuke you.. 3. Invoker 4. Sniper, long range harassing and assassinate.
Hm?

Nice Guide! 8/10.. with a BIG BUTT.. Arrows from the shadows by Madman is better..

mediocre strat...it's more of a overall gameplay than precise tactics on mirana and her arrow..i don't think you will win dotactics...too bad..there are many contestant that i think are greter than you like counter force...6.5/10

@Dark

Guides/strategies is for NEW PLAYER / NEWBIE ok ???? Not NOOB.

There's some different in it.

noob is newbie
stupid is what you mean

To the mods:

Could you please send an email or something to lestat on whether he wants his guide to be actually posted? Post out a banned author's guide and it's practically just as bad as plagiarising

LOL, very funny Guide. Keep emphasising the importance of Elune Arrow yet nvr show any screenshot/ video replay or detailed explanation on the arrow and the use of it.

Very... LOL!

@ CF_[X]

Oh. I dunno abt tat, i tot its different things.

@ Topic

I'm hoping to c the Elune Arrow part, but it's isn't there.

i'll try rhis out. its been very heLpful to me. thx

Actually, guides like these are USELESSand TRASH! Why?

1.) Well, eventhough with a guide, you can't master mirana (especially elune) without lots of practice!

2.) The mirana in here RELIES EVERYTIME WITH TANKS.. read the strat and you'll see! Currently, mirana is now a killer that it could even own the game in solo with tanks!

3.) I hate people who put LINKEN'S in their req. items! Why? Linken depends mostly with your enemies' skill! It is not always good to require linkens!

Linkin and an Arcane is stupid on mirana. Just get skadi with a bottle and its done deal

I'll be taking this down when we publish the contest entries that we deemed worthy. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Thats tomorrow by the way, guys.

Hmmm more nonsense here:
"The only notable reminder is Elune`s Arrow beeing your signature skill."
Followed near-instantly by:
"I don`t see how adding pictures would help you," oh my god...

F THIS GUIDE!!!!

@ topic 101
"F THIS GUIDE!!!!"
explain to me whats 'F' about it
even when th autor got banned he still did a good job althought there are major changes
S&Y cost now 800 x 3=????
@ all
dont complain about this guide or Lestat9208.
he is no more here so dont bother at it complains

I don't really see why this guide is that great... Half of it talks about potm's item builds. wtf? And there's no instructions on how to use potm's most crucial skill which is elune's arrow. And just look at the item builds? If you're gonna recommend so many builds, then you might as well recommend different strategies besides this one. Anyway, bye bye to this guide. It won't be here by tomorrow

I don't get it, why people get BoT with POTM. She needs attck speed right with the dmg items she does good dmg. And treads gives also 10 stats. U can switch to str for early game, for more hp^^. Well can some1 tell me why BoT is better then treads:D!?

ye that`s good strategy good job

Everyone don`t play in same way. It`s good strategy to someone or bad strategy to someone.

@ Aliian,, well basically BoT will provide you active teleportation to any place in map to ur creeps and base except for allied heroes PLUS it give additional +20MS compared to Treads.. thats why its more expensive 2700gold.. treads=1850gold only..

Has anyone noticed that the guide is called "Lestat9208's guide to sabertooth mummy" and his username is Lestat9208 but it the introduction its says Lestat2909

later,.. I suggest you throw your archane ring, and change it with more benefit item to add your damage, like radiance, rapier, or buriza do kanyon,

anyway, when you bought linken, it was enough for your mana, and you can sell your archane

LOL

enjoying the last moments of postin here

Waiting for something to vanish! (mods job?

LOL last post on ths guide

mv, be quiet! They didn't need to know we didn't manage to get the contest results posted - wait... uhoh. Yes this may take more than today to deal with...