Vengeful The Swapper Killer
Created by _noob28_ on 2007-01-07
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You can add Butterfly, its a very effective item for venge. Increased attack speed + desolator + terror + command aura + teammates especially Sven = FTW!!!!
I really like playing with Sven when i'm playing Venge. He is really my best friend.
i tink u shud gt power treads 1st... n u actually cn kill heroes at lvl 6... as long as u hve an ally, jus wait till dey gt near ur bunker, then swap n let ur hero do most dmg... finally use M.canon?
Skill Build:
1. Magic Missile
2. Command Aura
3. Magic Missile
4. Command Aura
5. Magic Missile
6. Nether Swap
7. Command Aura
8. Magic Missile
9. Command Aura
OMFG "_" Command Aura in Early Game
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i prefer stats rather than his aura..
trust me aura is not that useless in early game. i really cant understand ppl who does that. one more SUGGESTION about ur skill build is that dont get terror until lvl 21.
yeah i know that the butterfly is a nice item,.. if i can farm well i will buy butterfly too... but for me this items are enough to win...
@ shanethekiller - whats the purpose of buying desolator if i'm gonna put my terror skill in lvl 21 and terror is also nice for escaping hero's while running you can use terror then stun your enemy...and i think command aura is much useful than stats..
also plss... rate my strategy before living...
TNX....
I reckon you've thought out the team guide pretty well, but the items MIGHT use some work. I never like buying pure damage until I'm already winning, I usually get S&Y with this. MoM is sweet too, regardless of the orbs.
Skills are kinda wrong, Terror is not too useful for most players, Missile is best maxed early... Command Aura is OK to be maxed immediately after unless you can't play well, in which case get stats on lvl2/4 and then start it at lvl8.
I insist that you can do hero killing on very low levels, particularly with no hp guys - stun, whack whack whack, flee, stun, whack, dead. Its not fun, for them anyway.
Son Of A noob... Dun Add stats...add aura la. and dun add terror... and ur items sucks.
u nid more hp like sny and eye. after that one butterfly... buriza and mkb if have time...
perserverence is a noob build... try harder and think about it... if u are good.. u dun have to worry bout any hero being ur 'worst enemy'... and if u are good... anione can b good allies and a good team...
@ blazer - so why dont you made your own guide if you think my guide sucks... well i've try my guide with terror and desolator and it's really helpful even if i have low life i just used my terror then stun my enemy then hit him...
and if you nid hp items why buy perseverance to regen fast,, in buying EOS it will take you a long time to complete that and you can also upgrade perseverance to linken it also adds hp...
and hey this guide is not for me it's for newbie's i know that all hero's are nice teammates but as far as i know hero's that are listed above are teammates that will surely help you,
and i think your the one who's NOOB cause in any hero there got to be their worst enemy, and do you think you can defeat your enemy if you dont have mana or you have been silence?? think!! and please make your guide to vengeful!!!lets see who's the noob
Nice guide.
Although 1 thing,u can kill hero at lvl 6.Remain behind our tower,enem comes swap.Tower hits hard at those levels.Whack whack.As soon as he comes back Stun and kill!!
good....seems perfect for her
This is great strategy. But skill build needs a little change. I don't prefer getting command aura early cuz not very much damage will be add to ya or ur mates. Good job item build. How about adding MoM??? Keep up good work.
good item build but i don't like the skil build much, if you want a swapper killer you may want to save command aura last since, damage aint to high early game, about 50-60? try to use a similar build with sven , magic missile then stats or magic missile terror reasons are command aura doesnt give to much bonus early, taking stat bonuses really boost you up since +hp+mana and +damage early game is what venge needs, take command aura mid game lvl 10+ and terror after command,
terror is a useless skill...u pump stats is more useful pls...
This char's good if you can harnest its truest potential. It's an ezy killer if you have a blinker (or some sorta teleporter ie. leap) on ur team. In the left and right lane, there's craters when only blinkers can enter. Get the blinker to enter it, swap with the blinker n then w8 until an enemy comes (one that wont b able 2 exit the well) n swap wif em. Since ur long range atk atk n more atk.
all ur skills r commented nice.. btw i dont think Terror and the desolators corruption stack... i dunno
here try this... vs versus lion.. impale and finger... u are a dead spirit...
har har har..... only noobs can die at lion with that two skill combo and beside lion is only good at early game at late game lion is crap.... and maybe i can kill lion before he can make 1/2 of my life....
only noob people like you can die in late game vs lion...
do you know that chen can have 522 movement speed? i know whats the answer..
onli noobs would think im toking bout late game... noob.. which sucker other than u will die in the hands of a late game lion
ah ok... just forget about it blazer..... well it's on the player if the player is noob he cannot kill vengeful easily with lion and really lion is good at early game only cuz at late game his last skill only tickles the enemy....
Cool!!!!
hey.. dun 4get me... i tried ur build and it aint that bad... hey... im sry alrite...
nyc....but i prefer skadi than linkens...after terror + magic missle attack attack(w/ skadi alredy)...if ur enemy runs skadi will make him slower then use ur swap....booom!!! ur enemy find himself back to square 1
una gaga
nice strategy
i think u dont need a BDK and linken.. instead use mekansm and butterfly.. also terro is a non sense skill.. trust me it wont help u..
hmmm... i have tried this strat and putting terror early,.. and it helps me....
so i think it's a nice skill...
Actually, this is a hero that can kill using only hits... It may be good when your final items will be Power Treads, Stygian Desolator, The Butterfly, Aegis of the Immortal, Divine Rapier and the last one may be a Teleport scroll or another Aegis if there is no more charges on your first aegis, or the Buriza... It depends on the situation of the game, actually... Nice tips on killing though... I'm also a noob... hehe
a ohter nice hero to go with is rhasta, he puts his wards around you and then you swap. IMBA.
i think butterfly or sang and yashais better than linking sphere
i say first blood
my stats 15|0
thx for the guide now i can kick the ass of the guys on internet
can kill at lvl 6 if he is near the tower no ever[dragonkinght]
you should make a circle of mines with three layers and put vengeful in and swap hehehe
but i tink sny wit eos.will own leiis,
haax.i didnt trty ur build leiis,
i tink i can try leiis.
haax.
i really like your build but one question.
do i need to fill my inventory? if i do then what should the last 2 items be? you said buriza, stygian, treads and linken. but that's 4 items. do you have any thing else to add? like butterfly of mkb or anything else. xause my bro usually fill his inventory if he gets the chance.
please reply ok. i really need a guide that alot of people agree with. but blazer, ..........lol 0.0
oh and the 38th post was to _noob28_
does deso and EOS stack together?
well butterfly and MKB is a nice choice
we play vengeful differently, you might want to try...
1.mm 2.stat 3.mm. 4.stat 5.mm. 6.swap 7.mm 8-10. stat 11. swap and so forth next is command aura
you see, 36% additional damage of nothing is nothing so you might as well increase your life and mana, you get more magic missile and you get harder to kill. especially for pro enemies, i get up to 3 bracers even.
on 5v5 matches, you might want to add lothar's edge so after swap stun then lothar's, because tendency is you'll die after swap. i try to build it as early as i can.
part carry part support. I have to try this some time
new one:D
dammit.
i prefer items like:
mekansm
black king bar
stygian desolator
perseverance/linken
power threads
others are your choice.
*if you want to win in a 5on5 tournament,use this build.
click the bkb then swap a hero...
the other team wont be able to kill you. i promise that.
bec when in bkb,the mekansm buffs stack,ok?...
try this b4 u comment. ^_^
you could mix in w/ rhasta,just like jeppup said..
or w/ techies...
plant as many bombs as you want, then swap... bam!..
a "minus one" already 4 the other team..
i think you can replace bracer with wraith band. it gives agi. but bracer helps with hp. wraith band will give you some damage.
The item is good, it really have a good attack and attack speed, but notice your life im sure if enemies are out for a kill you will be the priority because of your life.(only my opinion anyway)
dude get skadi.
whatever
those who pump aura in the beginning are noobs and have failed utterly at life
whatever~~~
@#$%*&
skendo.. u where not happy... gimme ur no. come we one on one... i use my build u use urs... c who win lorh..
hello again blazer... hehehe
nice strat!!!!
decent build, but i'd go with 3 mana pot, 4 tango, and a couple of branch for starter...just spam magic misile level 3, refill with mana pot, and u can kill at early level..around level 5-7..when u get level 4 misile, hunt for heroes..
hmm... weird item build imo.
mkb
buriza
treads
butterfly
skadi
linkens
rather stats than aura in early game? and maybe skadi instead of buriza
i love this hero!
attack, stun, attack, swap, stun and kill
i play this guy with all the auras i can get my hands on: ring of basilius, vladimir's offering and then hyperstone to assault cuirass. note that none of these items are pure dmg items... it's all about being a team player. then just group up with your teammates and go ganking... your 4 auras and swap will be a big benefit. play this hero like it's meant to be played - a support hero :)
Thanks!! HELPS ALOT
nce guide thanks i'll give you 8/10
Cool! Nice guide! It's really helping me! Thanks!
Cool! Nice guide! It's really helping me! Thanks!
command aura in early game? uhmm...?? imagine if you will prioritize stats then command aura later.. what would be more favorable?? utilize that 36% damage by adding stats first..
IMO, command aura is better than stats and i get SNY rather than stygian, for fast and furious attacks and i also get butterfly coz command aura only increases base damage and bonus damage from stat boosting items.
stygan is good, like the idea with crixalis, dont like treads, travels are better late game
Very Helpfull guides thanks. They are the ultimate strategies for Venge
best used in RHASTA to0.., trap VENGEFUL in the wards, and swap..,
NO TREADS@!#!#!TRAVELS ARE BETTER
Early Game Items:
Tangoes
Bracer or Wraith Bands
Bracer or Wraith Bands
Boots of speed..
Mid game items:
Powerthreads
lothars
Desolator
Bracer
Late Game Items:
1.Powertreads or change to BoT
2.Lotharz
3.Desolator
4.Butterfly
5.Buriza
6.~~~~
optional:
AssaulT cuirass(armor and attack speed)
MKB
Linken sphere(hp and mana)
@blazer
when lion empales u stun him. his empale fails. he loose about 400 hp with stun and
atack. so at level6 hes got about 300hp left? if he fights whack him til u can stun again for kil. if he runs follow. swap, stun kill. YES ONLY NOOBS WILL DIE AT HANDS OF LION
U missed out one very important thing!!!!
The vs swap trick. theres a montain on the top lane. get a blinker to blink there n u swap with him. And.... Just wait for your opponent! swap him n he's a goner! He'll be stuck there forever. (if no town portal scroll, dagger or boots of travel) Try it... if it works than ull be getting rid of one hero! =)
Euh.. blinker does'nt work with vengeful spirit
But guys what do you mean about this killing and easy strat? :
Magic missile + Ruptur (bloodseeker) + Swap = OWN!!
Is a very good strategy
pano kapag kalaban c viper??? durug ka dun... pag lvl 5 wala ka ng pag asa... anu pedeng pangontra??
pano kapag kalaban c viper??? durug ka dun... pag lvl 5 wala ka ng pag asa... anu pedeng pangontra??
Nyay, pag si viper 1v1?? Mahirap yan... sa tingin ko kelangan mo bumili ng 2 RoH at Vit Booster sa umpisa... Tapos Double Vanguard tapos Desolator na agad...
ill tell you guys something in my expierience this is the only time i did this....... lolz I swapped somebody in roshans corner =)) God he got killed by roshan
A running rhasta from the scougre runs back his tower i was stunned by roshan then swapped him then ran back to the fountain laughing cuz he died
terror+command aura is only useful for 3v3, to create a VS for pushing. spam terror = army of creeps. More players, and you usually cant build up an army so i go for swapper killer build.
just one thing to drop. generally i dont like command aura early because it imbalances your creep waves and you push further away from the safety of your own tower. i, instead choose stats early as the hp and mana bonuses help you spam that oh so important nuke, as well as give you some survivability early game.
Dude, nice guide. I and my teammates won when I followed your guide especially your Skill Build and Items that should buy for her.
It's a 3 vs. 3 game. In my team(Sentinel), were Vengeful Spirit, Abaddon, Sven, Omniknight and Silencer and on the other hand(Scourge), they were Ezalor, Lion, Kardel, Traxex and Zeus. They were outmatched when Vengeful and Sven went the same lane(Mid Lane) and our heroes we encountered were Ezalor and Zeus. I got the first blood against Ezalor. After Sven & I(Vengeful) stunned him(Ezalor), I swapped him near our tower and we attacked him and luckily I got the First Blood.
I bought your items you recommended(P. Treads, Linken, Deso, Buriza) and I added it with Lothar's Edge and Butterfly.
We won the game over the Scourge.
_noob28_, thanks for the guide you made. It helped me a lot.
Congrats on your game..
i would go magic missle and stats 1st..
and stygian deso??.. idont think so...
stygian works well...try it
>>>your strategy is good, how about when you swap on a 5v5 game and its hard because you must sacrifice yourself so it makes you a feeder so i suggest to build lothar's edge so that after swaping you can escape w/o dying
check my new item build...
comment number 69
ill practice more.tnx 4 d tip. i rilly lyk vengeful too.
MM + stats + SWAP = gg
y get stats first instead of command aura and terror? stats increases ur hp and mana whch u need it badly esp in early game.
pretty good strat. Just to all those people who say that terror is useless, none of you even recognize the signifance of -6 armor and 20% dmg reduction. noobs. 20% reduction is on the total accumulated dmg, meaning if you had a dmg of say, 150, you're reduced to 120. you just lost 30 dmg and now you're getting hit alot harder due to -6 armor. Reduction of armor is huge, why do you think Slardar's ult is armor reduction and even cuirass aura is -armor. Nubs, you dont know what you're talking about.
IMO not nearly enough on swap which is a hugely useful ability
Hm.nice one noob28!10/10
you forgot my favorite hero...ursa anyone with a stun can have a deadly combo with him
if you havnit noticed blazer is a noob....he says preverence is noob but he doesnt realize that its made into lycans....and sny is a retard item on vs and so is skadi is mediocre because she has short range....butterfly gives evasion and attck speed so thats a good item for her.....then he says lion will beat vs....but thats not true if u have LYCANS...dont listen to noob blazer
I've play DotA a long time but this strategy is very good. I have my own strategy. Look at this:
1.Skill Build
1. Magic Missile
2. Command Aura
3. Magic Missile
4. Command Aura
5. Magic Missile
6. Nether Swap
7. Magic Missile
8. Command Aura
9. Command Aura
10. Stats
11. Nether Swap
12. Stats
13. Stats
14. Stats
15. Stats
16. Nether Swap
17. Stats
18. Stats
19. Stats
20. Stats
21. Stats
22. Terror
23. Terror
24. Terror
25. Terror
But this is my strategy perhaps it is good or bad. This not important for me i find it good and that is the only which is right.
man you guys must be dreaming. anything works....you don't need some sort of plan or certain heroes to go with vengeful. i could use her straight up. support or not.
Haha 1on1 against silencer and i still won. BURIZA FTWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thx bro..
haha... d best!!! stig pare... gling nmn ng strategy n2.... nbsa q plan pero mukang astig!!! subukan q 2... this wi be the first time to use vengeful. so hope n i can follow ur instructions right... hehe... slamat.
wow thank you for your effort ! I didn't know the ALT hotkey, it's for seeing the life isn't it
I'll try this hero tomorrow
Thanx for the nice comments.... Comment More
i just tested ur item build on an insane bot in 6.43b AI+1.4. . was fighting demon witch and tried assault cuirass . . the armor reduction stacked to a -16 . . quite nice dmg ^O^
would strygwyr be good?, rupture + swap, or does it not go like that.
wow galing mo...1vs1 na lng tau
Its a good guide for any1. thx!
great guide
ive been playing vs a few weeks now - she is pretty good no matter item build u do... personally my fav item build is to rush the butterfly... 1/4staff early game with BoS is pretty heavy imo.. once i got tha butterfly (usually mid-game phase) like to tank her up a bit with the hart if im farming well also BoT makes her awsum for sneak attacks for low-hp enemies...
i love the p-serve idea - lol didnt think of that - but yeah ty for tips
i think a guinsoo would work on vengeful. ^_^ seriously... i think replace the buriza with guinsoo. you can be a better killer/support hero that way.
Blood Seeker is an awesome ally too. Rupture + nether swap = 720 dmg
GG
why noone things that terror is a great skill ?? try to use it is very effective
gia to poutso iste malakes
Yo Ricky! nice guide man considering it's your first, heres a couple of things to add in my opiuon. First get treds first, and also make sure you get more agility instead of damage. Vs is a good damage dealer but she needs fast attack speed and since shes agility every agility point adds on point to her damage.
-Chris-To-Pher-
nooooo
you are sposed to go with Pudge, Swap then rot and dismember, he still alive missile or hook him
Me and my friend do all the time, absolute game winner
Like the build, it was enough for me to get to end game w/o Butterfly; but I had quarterstaff and eaglehorn at the end, just no time to buy BFly cause we won
actualy dota dpends on its user if you rilly know how to use them well.."diskarte ng isang manlalaro yan"..linken sphere wel do,if your surrounded by enemies full of stun,but like it said,its an optional item,but if you ask me,il go 4,MKB,cuirass,S&y and butterfly..increase its attack speed and damage..its all about speed and power baby!!1
i fukin love this guy
I hate venge
COMMENT FOR CRIXALIS is not GOOD!
USING 2 ULTI?? for just one enemy? maybe swap stun and burrow strike, but with EPCINTER? a waste of skill and mana..
this guide is just ok. you fail to tell about ESCAPING by using netherswap, if they chase u behind towers, or anywhere, swap to confuse them and run the opposite direction. Also, have magina blink to the spot wher eno one can get out of, then swap him, then swap enemy hero. As long as they dont have blink (or like 100 tangoes) they will be stuck there and leave the game within 30 seconds. (DONT KILL THEM WHEN THEY ARE STUCK)
hm i like the straat but i prefer getting a bracer and 2 tangoes + a mana potion first.. also dont get command aura so fast.. like you said vengy is fragile in the begin so get some stats or 2 for hp
oh and yes swap is great for escaping or getting enemy heroes out of trouble.. i was low health and chased by rikimaru i swapped him in time and run thought the forests survived cause the swap confused him
The only item here that is good for venge is deso, linkin, threads, and buriza are stupid for venge. The point of venge is to ult and escape. Getting a lothars, deso, butterfly, mkb, heart would make more sense. TRAVELS ARE A MUST FOR VENGE SINCE SHE HAS TO BE FAST WITH HER SWAPS AND ESCAPES
My item build:
-Mjonir
-Lothars
-MKB
-Travel
-Buriza
-Butterfly
i rated him 8 for the strat but for the grammar i rated him 1. carabao english as if he was playing dota all his life and never had the chance of learning the basics of the english language.. hahaha.. play Dota and study still. lol
Interesting.... Btw can u talk about who VS is gd against n which hero is her weakness, it'll really benefit many ppl
my item build:
power treads
desolator
butterfly
vanguard
i think it would be better if you buy wraith band and a bracer for balanced agi & str since those two stats are the most important for you.
noob build sorry to say but it sucks. tried it once, 5-4. My build pwns.
1. Lothars
2. Manta style
3. Butterfly
4. BoT
5. GG =D
129.
Posted by binkzilla
2007-10-12
noob build sorry to say but it sucks. tried it once, 5-4. My build pwns.
1. Lothars
2. Manta style
3. Butterfly
4. BoT
5. GG =D
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That's the dumbest build for venge I've ever heard. The build in this stategy is great, but i would add Butterfly (actually I think this is a must). If you have many gold left, u can buy monkey king bar. So my "dream build" would be like this:
Power Treads, Stygian, Buriza, Butterfly, Linkens, Monkey King Bar
nice job....WAY BETTER THAN THE OTHER NUBY GIUDE
Hey, nice guide you got there!
How about trying lothar's edge? In groups of enemies,your team hides in a tight spot, then you swap a careless hero then windwalk, your team gets a free kill!
isnt it better to get crystalis after bracers? or im i being stupid
umm..i probs wouldnt get perserverance... aim to get buriza, lothars and butterfly, desolator
Lol.....
i just started playing dota and VS is the first hero i used. if ur guide is really for noobs (as u said so in comment 9) i tink u shud edit ur item build becuz i will be very very happy if i ever complete my deso and get demon edge.. let alone complete buriza and even get linken..
hey where`s luna
vengeful swaps the opponent then eclipse
nice1 ..
interesting, I will post my venge strat and we should compare.
nice build
@noob28
"first buy boots of speed and 1 gauntlet of strength.. "
Juz great, no consumable, no regen.
Perseverence early game it quite useless for vs. You will only get the hp regen, and mana regen and little damage for 1775. I prefer some bracers, or some wraiths for vs to boost the hp, damage, and importantly, max mana pool to spam
magic missiles and swaps.
And for the linken, it's almost the same description as perseverence. The mana regen is useless! While at higher level, the mana pool won't be drained that easily, and I'd prefer HoT than Linken.
Also, when facing harasser early game, it'd be better to take attribute +, and take command aura @ lv 12-15. Moreover, the aura early game won't do much, since Vs' damage is soo small, and the aura increase the damage by %.
@noob28
Btw, I think you should explain things about swapping, and efficient usage of it if you want to make this guide better.
This swapper is damn good..
If you want to just own early game one strategy is get missile then stats until lvl 6 then get swap and then max out missile and move on to command arua
If you want to just own early game one strategy is get missile then stats until lvl 6 then get swap and then max out missile and move on to command arua
nice start gj 10/10
GOOD HERO...GOOD SKILLS....BUT ANYWAYS I DONT LIKE IT
nice build
nice :D
GooD!
I disagree with your skill build...max out magic missile then terror...
err.....not bad, but not ownage, if you wanna own, just get 3 wraiths, treads, deso and a hyperstoen, its gg, you dont have to worry about health cause you have stun and you can kill anyone before they can kill you. also if thegame drags, battle cuirass is awesome, that + terror + deso = no armor, its also a aoe item so it effects all heroes around you.
so:
wraith band
wraith band
wraith band
desolator
battle cuirass
power treads
this item build will get anyone godlike.
In the "nice heroes to go with"
also add enchantress
Swap while she uses impetus
nice...
ADD Sange And Yasha Or MKB
2buriza, EoS, PT, Mjo, butterfly... and you'll see vengefull killing mortred.....
try teaming with tiny n sandking to trap enimies in crooks n cranny in the map
how? simple sandking stuns into a hole u either swap or toss n sandking stuns out
you suck id work better with 3 wraith band one treads butterfly meca heheh just for support
haha i will use venge on ou big game! hope we'll in

another strategyt says that i dont have to put terror until lvl21..is that true??
you forgot strygwyr like her good ally ; swaping ruptured hero(who is usually not moving unit) will make him move and take good amount of damage. the strategy is good though ;D
I think this hero is great at hero killing early in the game, just go with another hero who can stun and the double stun will get a first blood really early in the game.
I don't like buriza for venge! I'll just save my money for butterfly
nice strats..
its so cool..
Nice plan for Vengeful u can use Currias for supporting and killing as well as desolator COLL -10 armor
halu
i usually take magic missile then stats to spam stun enemies..
just sharing tough>>
O.o Not bad.
hey the stygian is good for her, best if combine with butterfly. but i still think that her armor is weak, any suggestion? also i think that terror is good. it is good enough for me too kill a hero when iam low level...
nice strat,cool if stats at the begiing are used instead of comand or teror witch re useles
2 Wraith Band, PT, VG, Desolator, Hyperstone is the best combination...
hmm... Stygian hsa it's uses. But well... Terror isn't exactly very useful... I prefer to go for a butterfly earlier since it has more benefits. And I like stats earlier. Not terror. Butterfly = Damage, attack speed and armour. Stygian= silly damage and - armour. It's not a very useful orb ability for silkwood. Try a skadi. But I'll go for Buriza right after butterfly and a skadi if I can make it. MoM works good too. But kinda useless after you get butterfly
thanks.......
vengeful is a mint team mate with pudge and also with bloodseeker...
Rupture then netherstrike = up to 720dmg
Stand next to pudge then nether, well u know whats gonna happen...
ahhh fresh meat...
hey guys,
I'm making a guide for
vengeful spirit and its my 1st guide...
can u tell me how 2 add the item icons??
u rock
if the game stretches wat is the items then if its like 50 mins and its still going???
PLEASE AWNSER ANYONE
and awesome as guide noob
i know u espeically like sentinel but i like terror blade better though this 2nd
tnx but y bracer....?
THE BEST BUILD UP...BUT WHY BRACER NOT WIRTHBAND?
DO TIS HERO NID BUTTERFLY OR VANGUARD??
bracers cos vs got low health la dog. early game 454 hp is paper.
good day to all. would just like to ask, is ring of basilius alright with venge? i mean for the mana regen and all. is this a practical item to get at the start? thanks.
I dont use terror nor stygian desolator. hehe. waste of mana or gold. if my enemy is a str hero, i usually go for 2 vanguards or an assault cuirass. Together with Butterfly, MKB and Linken, this hero is UNBEATABLE! Man she's GODLIKE! Str and melee heroes run from her. Chrixalis, beastmaster, axe and other strong str heroes pawned!
I gave up reading, I spent more time figuring out what your saying ina sentence than finding out about VS.
i think its better going for skady. gets life for swap, frost for no escape(no need for swap to kill, if planned) and stats. for me in d early game i prioritize mana so talismans are better than bracers and about HP don't think its a problem becus i've thought of number of ways not to lose half of the damage u inflincted on the enemy esp 1on1 in a lane.
anyway its an ok guide
nice advice about what is the best team mate it is totally good when i swap the dick head enemy 2 the skill of my team myt!!!!!!!!!!!ur cool !!!
i request for skill combo of silkwood
good work for me it is necessary to make butterfly first cause of the miss to avoid the damage and take damage which will be much with the skill cammand aura .Second item must be orb either skadi if playing good and having money or desolator .Then MkB and Kanyon and heart for hp.
Sorry for my english
I always was hurry so i wasnt thinking what i was typing
dont ya think getting guinsoo is better getting in the mid game? killing equation = guinsoo>terror>magicmissile>attack>swap>attack>stun again if not yet killed.
i think enigma is one good partner with venge because of black hole enignma is will use his last skill then infront on him is venge in theddle of black hole then swap
you can make difusal too,swap,purge,stun,and lothar swap and vanish
you can make difusal too,swap,purge,stun,and lothar swap and vanish back to your group.
i think terror is nerfed now?
think its lousier then lastime.. i never add terror though
add stats.
your guide is not bad, but if u just have some pic showing how u kill heroes then tats wat i call GOOD
i really hate this hero...
and _noob28_ made me hate this more...
why? because the strat overall is good...that means vengeful user will be owning more because of this strat... by the way _noob28_ could you tell me how to defeat this hero?thanks,i'll appreciate the response...
excellent guide...
nice guide,,
The way I usually play Vengeful Spirit is with Drow Ranger. Really, the combined auras allow for really fast double, triple and, later on, quadruple damage. With just simple attacking from both Heroes, any foe would die withing seconds. Along comes Magic Missile and Nether Swap... voila!
I also like to keep Magic Missile at level 1 since leveling it will raise the mana cost.
Anyways, nice simple guide.
nIse
its low hp at the start a little risky...
SHOULD BUY MKB FOR XTRA DAMAGE
As i read the comments, most of them saying that the skill build sux, and they're takin DRUGS!,
This is a nice a guide, a team and killer venge (support), But maybe i go for Butterfly first before buriza (after getting deso) for the evasion.. Venge is a fragile hero.. My rate for this is 10 / 10.. Nice guide! btw, _noob28_ is inactive now..

As i read the comments, most of them saying that the skill build sux, and they're takin DRUGS!,
This is a nice a guide, a team and killer venge (support), But maybe i go for Butterfly first before buriza (after getting deso) for the evasion.. Venge is a fragile hero.. My rate for this is 10 / 10.. Nice guide! btw, _noob28_ is inactive now..

stats>aura...early game
Aura early makes you push too fast... and the tower just pwns your creeps... and your enemy will get a lot of exp.
get stats...
like it
its easy to kill VS at early game..especially with heavy nukers like demon witch..?impale and finger of death on a 3/4 hp VS would finish her off i think.
azuredota, it's even easier to kill Lion (infact, any early game intel) simply by swapping with them when you're at ur own tower. as the tower starts hitting him, just stun and start whacking away. Use another stun if needed. This works very well even with lvl 3 magic missile


