Charles's Bloodseeker

nice strategy..... but can you buy all of your items?? expensive!!! remove radiance and hyperstone....

There's nothing wrong with this guide, skill build and items are ok. But I think you miss some important points like early game blood bath regen and how to use his 3rd skill with invis heroes. Also 3 flasks at the start of the game? Shouldn't be necessary, and tangoes are far better than flasks anyway.

Nice guide... Even there is no s&y...

This guide is okay. Although farming for a Sacred Relic after Power Treads is highl;y unlikely. Team ganks would happen all the time and you can't just rely on "farm farm farm". Even so, Bloodseeker's base damage is just average, so you rely on last hits often, which is not an easy task if there's a competent enemy in your lane as well. The skill build is okay, although I'd personally max out Blood Bath first, as it's the skill that makes you stay in your lane longer. For the item build, I think getting Radiance that early isn't an easy task. Satanic is okay, but I'd rather have Corruption for an orb effect. This statement is also wrong: "1st bloodrage yourself,then rupture the other enemy hero beside it preferably a int hero then whack the one being attacked by your team to death." When you cast Bloodrage on yourself, you can no longer cast Rupture. The combo is to cast Rupture first and then Bloodrage on yourself. Nice try on your first guide.

radinace is a good item early on not only because of the damage but because the immolation from it kills creeps and causes blood seekers blood bath to activate. So in other words it helps his low hit points too. Not to mention it wears down unwitting enemies slowly so that their hitpoints get below half and Strygwyr's thirst gets activated and you can go for the kill. An all round item and a must for blood seeker.

does rupture have an effect on the sand king when he burrow strikes?

When it comes to splashing for Blood Bath, nothing beats Battle Fury on Bloodseeker. It's easier to farm for than Radiance, provides HP regen, and +65 damage, only 5 damage less than Radiance. Battle Fury lets you splash around 50-60 damage per attack when you first get it, and it increases more as you level up and as you get more damage items, while Radiance only gives out a fixed 35 damage per second. IMO, Battle Fury is way better.

Its a matter of preferance. But radiance does more damage than battle fury not by 5 but by 5+35 immolation damage. If you have battle fury and your attacking the enemy hero you only do +65 damage and splash damage ONLY to people around the enemy hero. But with radiance you do +70 damage to your enemy and the +35 from immolation to everyone around including the enemy hero. And it gives the +8% evasion which is nice when you also have butterfly in the build. But i agree that later on in the game when you cast blood rage on your self and you have battle fury you'l be doing a lot more area of effect damage than just +35 from radiance.

I am not going to discuss on your items list cause I think they are subjective and that everyone has a different opinion. However I would like to quote your statement you made in the late game/crashing...

"1st bloodrage yourself,then rupture the other enemy hero beside it preferably a int hero then whack the one being attacked by your team to death."

As a seeker all my games, you cant bloodrage yourself and rapture together. Once you have bloodraged, rapture is no longer available.

Your article may seem very easy to execute but bs nevertheless one of the hardest heros to master.

you skill build is abit inappropriate you need to maxed out bloodrage before thrist ... due to the attack with a level 3 thrist ... you can catch up to anyhero by that time ... all you need is a GOOD attack to hit 'em down

nice startegy i just started playing bllodseeker and already i love him and plan on having him be my best. pretty much the same thing ever1 is saying radiance is not likely to get that early. and one more thing the heros that you want to watch out for anti mage i think isnt one of them he has low hp and usually he blinks away when you use a attack on him cuz anti mage is usually a fag. he gets low health and hes not faster than bloodseeker easy kill i think ive only just started playing with him but the 1st game i did the guy in my lane was anti mage and i got 5-0 on him

i agree that radience is the ultimate weapon for blood seeker even when you dont hit them in a chase they still take damage. Allthough i go bloodbath then thirst get just boots to start with. if you last hit and deny well its as good as a ring (bloodbath is triggered on a deny) great guide though almost the same as mine.

Evasion doesn't stack, so Radiance's 8% is nothing when you have Butterfly. But of course if you prefer Radiance, and you can farm for it then go ahead and go for it. I'm just saying that Battle Fury is cheaper, and may even be more effective.

Nice strat. I'll have to remember the runes part - I'm a big Bloodseeker fan too. For items, I'd ditch Radiance, because it's a farm item, and BS is good at farming after lvl13 or so, which is when you'd be able to afford such an item. Satanic increases strength, but you really need agility. It also makes this build very expensive for BS, given that you're at best a mediocre farmer early-mid game. MKB is good, but if you're fighting someone with twin bashers, they'll own you. It doesn't matter how much damage you do, if you're just sitting there dripping in your own blood.
Amen on the BoT - BS is a sprinter, not a spell caster.

Also, the moment you push on your own in mid game, is the moment any team worth its salt will gank you back to oblivion. Stay hidden, or farm with your team. What are you gonna do if you get double-teamed? Stun? Don't make me laugh. Bloodrage? Even worse - BS has trouble taking any full health non-INT hero head-on, let alone two. Rupture MIGHT let you escape, if the guy you targeted is an ubernoob, and your thirst kicks in, and maybe you can then pawn the noob and size up what's left. You're a little white rabbit with a red streak on its back when you push on your own.

The highlight of your guide: Skill build and the Radiance, everything else, unfortunately is rather weak, and PLEASE whatever you do don't listen to noobfield and get a Battlefury. Come on man, do you have a clue how powerful Radiance is. At least you understand that items are required before the relic. Unless you are against noobs, going straight relic before getting 3 wraith bands is suicide. 3 wraith bands will allow you to hold your own, also try adding an early vanguard. If you're skilled enough you can skip the RoR and get stout shield(if going for vanguard) and tangos, or two circlets and tangos(for wraith bands). RoR is designed for heroes that want to waste gold, and get little gain. You clearly don't have enough experience with Seeker, Tangos > flask on any fighting hero. Eat a tree and then duke it out with someone, you'll notice a huge difference, just try it. Laning alone? Are you serious? Thats another major flaw, I understand you want rupture, but rupture is a lot better with another nuker, and also thirst helps keep sight when you have a nuker laned with you.

Yes Krommic, I'm a noob. Hooray, you proved something by calling me names. Very mature. 3 Wraith Bands? It just delays your development for better damage items.

Please don't let this degenerate into a flamefest of radiance vs battlefury. I belive there is a thread for that somewhere, and if not, feel free to make one. On topic: Probably better to swap flasks for tangos, as they don't dispel on attack, and you want to be up close to get last hits.Woudn't want to go solo, as you'd be denying yourself/getting harassed if you meet up with ranged heroes, especially ones with nukes. Bloodseeker is also not the solo pusher, as he has no truly reliable escape. skills. Rupture then bloodrage not bloodrage then rupture. For items, I guess it has enough balance, if not a bit hard on the pocket. Has damage, aspd and some bulk(satanic). The hyperstone might be a bit redundant by the time you get it, since it has much less impact at that point in the game. Good enough. Effort in the next guide as well.

@kAEm you can use your 3rd skill with invis by tracking them in the minimap and clicking a and attacking them.@Garfield ya rupture then bloodrage yourself sry abt tt .And choosing between battlefury and radiance is your choice,but i still prefer radiance as bucci what mentioned and battlefury is useful when you have exceptionaly high damage like phantom assasin so the damge can spash around and +80% isnt that much for bloodseeker equipped with bfury,and bloodseeker usually faces hero 1on1 unless the other is half life so the splashing effect is for what?And bfury gives hp and mana regen,which is not that usefull for him bcos if you are a good lasthitter or denier you will regain your hp back and bloodseeker has quite a normal mana pool which is enough for rupture and bloodrage anyway you can only rupture 1 time and bloodrage 1 time so whats the use of the uses of bfury i find it only usefull for melee heroes with skills have fast cooldown or spells for farming like
raigor,juggernaut,rouge knight,magnataur etc.And as greedygood mentioned he ditch radiance bcos its a farm item wat about bfury?Its even more a farm item and also bloodseeker will be able to farm efficiently after lvl 13 or so.On the whole i feel that bfury is more suitable for farming then hero killing,anyway its your choice on betwen these two items and i did mention stygian desolator for the corruption at the conclusion>optional items part.@chaddiez if you are going to max rage before thirst then how ure gonna get hp early game though bloodbath and i prefer bloodthirst before bloodbath so bloodrage will be 3rd and anyway its your choice again And those who dont understand why i get satanic for bloodseeker, the reason is because bloodseeker has low hp and need the strenght,armor and most importantly life steal from it as bloodseeker needs to stay alive with life steal before regaining hp after killing a creep or hero from its 2nd skill.@Those who find farming for radiance hard:you can farm it easier after getting sacred relic through your early game hero kills or farming as bloodseeker can tank a creep wave by itself after getting relic,if you find it hard cast bloodrage on yourself and farm,and if you are a good farmer you can get radiance at lvl 11 to 13 like me @krommic its anyone's choice getting bfury or radiance you dont have to call garfield a noob which shows you are immature and noob.As noob means someone who is a newcomer to a particular field and everyone was once a noob and with garfield prefering to get bfury than radiance isnt noob.You have used the word wrongly so should apologise to garfield.At the part where u said RoR is designed for heroes that waste gold,for little gain i seriously disagree as RoR is very usefull for bloodseeker early game and laning alone is not hard if you can lasthit and deny well,and if you read my strategy carefully i said that laning alone is for outlvling people so you can get 1st blood or start your killing streaks bcos you will have rupture even earlier and higher base damage, hp etc.THX for your comments people and sugestions, Anyway this is my 1st guide written and my next guide will be on banehallow so goodluck cyas

@kAEm you can use your 3rd skill with invis by tracking them in the minimap and clicking a and attacking them.@Garfield ya rupture then bloodrage yourself sry abt tt .And choosing between battlefury and radiance is your choice,but i still prefer radiance as bucci what mentioned and battlefury is useful when you have exceptionaly high damage like phantom assasin so the damge can spash around and +80% isnt that much for bloodseeker equipped with bfury,and bloodseeker usually faces hero 1on1 unless the other is half life so the splashing effect is for what?And bfury gives hp and mana regen,which is not that usefull for him bcos if you are a good lasthitter or denier you will regain your hp back and bloodseeker has quite a normal mana pool which is enough for rupture and bloodrage anyway you can only rupture 1 time and bloodrage 1 time so whats the use of the uses of bfury i find it only usefull for melee heroes with skills have fast cooldown or spells for farming like
raigor,juggernaut,rouge knight,magnataur etc.And as greedygood mentioned he ditch radiance bcos its a farm item wat about bfury?Its even more a farm item and also bloodseeker will be able to farm efficiently after lvl 13 or so.On the whole i feel that bfury is more suitable for farming then hero killing,anyway its your choice on betwen these two items and i did mention stygian desolator for the corruption at the conclusion>optional items part.@chaddiez if you are going to max rage before thirst then how ure gonna get hp early game though bloodbath and i prefer bloodthirst before bloodbath so bloodrage will be 3rd and anyway its your choice again And those who dont understand why i get satanic for bloodseeker, the reason is because bloodseeker has low hp and need the strenght,armor and most importantly life steal from it as bloodseeker needs to stay alive with life steal before regaining hp after killing a creep or hero from its 2nd skill.@Those who find farming for radiance hard:you can farm it easier after getting sacred relic through your early game hero kills or farming as bloodseeker can tank a creep wave by itself after getting relic,if you find it hard cast bloodrage on yourself and farm,and if you are a good farmer you can get radiance at lvl 11 to 13 like me @krommic its anyone's choice getting bfury or radiance you dont have to call garfield a noob which shows you are immature and noob.As noob means someone who is a newcomer to a particular field and everyone was once a noob and with garfield prefering to get bfury than radiance isnt noob.You have used the word wrongly so should apologise to garfield.At the part where u said RoR is designed for heroes that waste gold,for little gain i seriously disagree as RoR is very usefull for bloodseeker early game and laning alone is not hard if you can lasthit and deny well,and if you read my strategy carefully i said that laning alone is for outlvling people so you can get 1st blood or start your killing streaks bcos you will have rupture even earlier and higher base damage, hp etc.THX for your comments people and sugestions, Anyway this is my 1st guide written and my next guide will be on banehallow so goodluck cyas

Oh i forgot,S&Y is another very useful item for bloodseeker,you can add it into your items build.

Sorry Garfield, I didn't mean to be offensive, but Radiance outshines(no pun intended) Battlefury by far on this hero, whom gets a lot of Radiance damage done on heroes as he chases. And when fighting heroes creeps are all over the place, sometimes following you, restoring your life if you get any kills (don't have to be within cleave, could be behind, chasing you). It is also additional damage, I think many people realize this, Battlefury sadly just is an obsolete item for the most part. You don't even have to attack for Radiance damage, it's insanely broken.

The reason for the 3 Wraith bands is very simple, Unless you foolishly get Blood Rage early and spam it wastign your mana, it can be difficult to last hit. I will admit when I host, last hitting is pretty easy, but +18 damage, a faster attack speed, additional health, and a little bit of mana to make mana no longer a concern really does help hold over a Blood Seeker until Radiance.

Yaya...damn, you put a lot of thought in to this. Who said anything about Battlefury? I'd ditch Satanic, Battlefury and Radiance for BS, just get Butterfly, SnY and twin bashers. Ah, and MoM for lifesteal and 75% more bashing chances, more chase, more everything. Now the point about radiance and chasing is intriguing...I ususally just don't get the item. I may try that out someday. Cheers!

BTW, for AGI heroes, Butterfly is fantastic. 25% aspd + 25 AGI = 50% aspd, 25% evade = 25% more HP, AND the game's only real anti-bash, and more core damage and AGI damage for the bloodbathing. You MUST get Butterfly...

LOL, I guess I can look forward to some feedback when I post my own strat - cheers! This is a great guide, too

The thing with Stygwyr is that you have a great, great variety of items to choose from... But personally, I think Butterfly is a must for all agility heroes, especially melee, and I do Sange and Yasha because they can be built steadily and grant good hp. Radiance is a very good choice for Stygwyr, whereas I wouldn't go for Battlefury. If you have just loads of money, or the game is 3vs3 or less, then buy Boots of Travel and Hyperstone instead of Power Treads. The rest is up to the circumstances. Linken's Sphere or even BKB if against nukers, Rapier/Aegis combo if against tanks, Lothar's Edge for escaping or even Buriza and/or MKB. Lots of choices.

personally i dont like SnY simply because with treads and lvl 4 thirst you get max run speed their for nulling out the 10% movespeed bonus. ANd 16 bonus agility isnt that good. All though the extra hp is good and maim i just dont thing that its worth getting an item unless you will get all the bonus's i would put the money into getting another item. But thats just personall preferance

guys ... dont misunderstand what i said, i meant maxing out BLOODRAGE before THRIST not before BLOODBATH sorry if i didnt state it out clearly ... nothing much different actually =.=ll"

This strategy is awesome , i just used it exactly and went beyond godlike , i didnt have MKB or hyperstone yet. Good Job Bruh

i now trying wat euu say!!
i tink will w0rk well!!!

nice guide..but all these items are expensive..so if you are a bad farmer, they won't cope well...but anyways.. for me..i don't go for butterfly..even if it is essential for him.. i go for these killer items: Burizza, monkey king bar, HOt,sometimes,Satanic, Aegis, and radiance with BOT or power treats..with these items..U OWN! my item build is a late game one..and mostly for good farmers...

works awesome

good guide, i have tryed it now 5 times and 5 times an ownage

im probably the best bloodseeker on battle.net US. east. this guide is terrible ad nooblike. i am a bloodseeker god of wtfbbqhaxorgankcity.
EZ-WIN TIP: (listen up) (take notes) Just bloodrage the enemy team's highest DPSer and you will win easy.

WHY AM I SO FUNNY

There was a time when i was fighting omniknight and he foolishly ran when i ruptured him, i just chase him down and his hp regenerated quite fast cos of HoT. So i wanted to cast bloodrage on myself but hit accidentally hit him! it countered his HoT regeneration and i managed to kill him..his hp was around 70. Good guide charles.

Try and get bloodbath as the first spell, considering getting thirst and assuming someones gonna be below 40% hp at level is alot and the hp regen from wit is very nice. Also consider getting one level of bloodrage as a silence for enemy heroes, and try noting that blood can be used effectively as a solo hero with good micro .
P.S. radiance is better, battlefury is one of hte worst items in the game.

niceee

Awww... I thawt I was the only bloodseeker player who got a satanic..

i have to say that butterfly is NOT the ultimate item vs bashing... use the bloody sheepstick how can they bash when they cant hit you? how can you cast spells when you....cannot speak?

i agree that the best way to become god like is to farm, farm and farm. join team mates on planned ambushes and defence until you get strong enough to kill 1 on 1. not only will you be get a higher level than your oppenent, you will also get better items. it's the only way

rupture first b4 u bloodrage urself as bloodrage silences u.

exelent tips and item build!!!!!

btw i want to correct my comment. first of all you have to get him sange and yacha so you have higher attack speed and buriza so that if you critical while under the effect of your Level 1 you demolish his hp

why not boots of travel? they can make you move from places of the map makin you pushin back creeps and makin lots of exp and money very fast. you can take hands of midas to have attak speed too, with boots of travel.

I would recommend lothars edge mid game instead of radiance because radiance gives you away when you hide and ambush.radiance would be better late game when you can farm + bloodbath with ease.

I prefer Battlefury over Radiance because it will be easier to farm just use bloodrage and then hit the creeps with helm of dominator your not so easy to kill because when you kill all the creeps you'll be full health.. ;p

get skadi coz it allows extra hp and mp and u slow them which is good wen thirst is on

Nice strategy...tested it out
Owned without dying
Thx

Pity I just bought Satanic when the game ended...No time to test with Butterfly
Radiance is great with Blood Bath

Hey, nice item because you regain health for every creep or hero kills done by the radiance effect

There's plenty of things wrong with this guide. You say "Don't buy gem" except that all you can see is where they're going, you can't actually target them. So that's wrong. And then, on top of that, you've written in a 5v5 to bloodrage and then to rupture, except...you can't do that. Because Bloodrage is a silence. That's two marks off. The rest is awesome though. 8/10

you don't need a gem to attack an invisible low HP hero. you can see where they are on the map but even though you can't click on the invis hero, you can attack the ground nearest or towards where the enemy hero is going then Strygwyr will automatically attack him when the hero is within attacking range even if he is invisible. I tried it when I played against Rikimaru.

I like

thanx bro, i keep getting owned, but now i think i stand a little bit of a chance, Helped out a lot ty again man

my item build for him is
treads
vanguard or tarrasque(if your doing well)
desolator
mkb
the two slots is up to you or u can put butterfly

nice one
thanks alot

satanic is pretty good but you should get hearst

satanic is pretty good but you should get hearst

Hmm... its good, its good. The only thing is between powertreads, and radiance, you have no extra dmg... i usually get a yasha before going for radiance.. do you think that is a good idea? :P

seems to bew a good strategy , but i think its very very important to get first s&y...it is not a wepaon that gives u a lot of damage,but it's very helpful when chasing , a lot of speed and a chanse to maim a target.what do you think?

well in Boots of travel its not actually the speed but its skill(teleport)

satanic is a waste of money b/c a good bloodseeker shud kill creeps fast enough to heal using that. u don't need the strength, ur better of getting s and y or buriza.

i think y stop at hyperstone? get curias then u get -5 armor aura and increased armor. den u will totaly own.

Did Strygwyr`s Thirst have a true sight?
Cos when i try to chase a dying rikimaru i can't see him..

I believe if you cast bloodrage on riki beforehand he's unable to become invisible once more, I might be wrong but with the bloodrage/rupture combo riki has always been forced into vision for me

well, thanks for the info..
i realy need that..

For my opinion, It is nice to add items or built items in mid game like S and Y or sange and yasha.. It is more beneficial in hero hunting and killing than sing satanic. Cause you have also life steal...

I plyd wit BS alot of tyms & tried alot of skll bilds and item bilds 4 him

Usually the items that I use with BS if he fights in 1vs1 bttles are:

1.P Threads
2.S&Y
3.Stygian Deso
4.A Cuirass
5.Butterfly
6.Cranium B
(P.S. if my enemy is a nuker, i use
Linken nstead Cranium B. It relli
works :D)

But during 5vs5 battles, my item build is:

1.Threads
2.Battlefury
3.Vanguard
4.S&Y
5.Mjolnir
6.Radiance
(P.S. my bild wud kill all 5 of them in
secs during their sacrificial push :D)

Well my skill bild 4 BS is:
1. Stygwyr's Thirst
2. Blood Bath
3. Stats
4. Stygwyr's Thirst
5. Blood Bath
6. Rupture
7. Stygwyr's Thirst
8. Blood Bath
9. Stygwyr's Thirst
10.Blood Bath
11.Rupture
12.Stats
13.Stats
14.Stats
15.Stats
16.Rupture
17.Stats
18.Stats
19.Blood Rage
20.Blood Rage
21.Stats
22.Stats
23.Blood Rage
24.Blood Rage
25.Stats

Well hope you lyk it :D
If you have comments jus quote me :D

My favorite items on BS:
Battlefury,Dagon,SnY,PowerTreads,
MkB,Burizado

Use Dagon on agile heros with Butterfly
or evasion.Ask area stunning ally to initiate.
On stun u bloodrage urself or high dps ally and go for atk...
Chase enemy and kill him with base damage or rupture if necessary.Come back and Dagon next target.Everyone charges on the target and u chase him to death.I got 21 kills once in a game killing like hell with 2 Double Kills.I only used to wait for enemy heroes to come near river and Chase/Rupture them for kill.
Try this build and u'll own any hero for sure.....

Hey idiot. U know u cant rupture them after u bloodraged urself because of the bloodrage spell effect. NO DUH!!!
But overall nice guide 9/10

I'am wondering if blood seeker can defeat

rhasta and razor in a battle

2 on 1

isn't that bloodrage can also be used to silence skillful enemies like rhasta
I will test your build

radiance is good for chasing heroes

too expensive items...remove hyperstone..

I personnaly think this guide is 9/10.i whould go for 2bracer at the beginning.i max out BLOODBATH first because it helps me to stay on my lane...btw i hate all who buy tangos because flask heals as muc as 2 tangos and it heals far faster.shure it dispels on attack but 20 sec to stay behind isnt long for 400 hp.i also prefer Buriza before MKB because he whould deal 500-crits which is better than the 30%chance of plus 100 dmge.the rest is like i whould play him too (THUMBS UP) THX FOR LISTENING :)

i have thought aanother nice combo with rupture:RUPTURE+TOSS

btw i didnt saw that nobody posted yet since 5.12. sry for double post

nice one

u suck

u cant rupture you enemy while you are in bloodrage...And i think you must include a lothar's edge or blink dagger since you dont have any escape skills..but that was a nice strategy..

nice combo..rupture+swap/meat hook=OWNING!!!

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needs s&y and vladimir's. hand of midas for last hits when low on health. drop the hyperstone and the satanic. -enzo

needs s&y and vladimir's. hand of midas for last hits when low on health. drop the hyperstone and the satanic. -enzo

consider a vlad's and s&y...or HoT since he has low hp

dude.. items too expensive... blademails easily countered by a satanic...

Does Blood Bath work when you deny?

what about Hand of Midas?

@JDiablo90:
YES! Denying a creep does restore some of your hit points from Blood Bath. So last-hitting is very necessary on both sides.