Witch Doctor write up by Capt.Planet

It's friday in 35mins, pre-emptive strike!

PS. Fole can blame Shim for this.

"Shim: I would vote for the wd one
Orochi: lol
Orochi: now I can blame you for it
Orochi: woo"

I shall publish the Lina guide in 7 days. If not, 6 or 8 depending if I parteh next week or not.

i dont see a dagon in ur build an therefore i can say this strat sucks

I maintain that my vote was NOT against the Lina guide... Oh and it was already friday here...

Where was I? I like this guide. Very in depth on the different builds, and counters to WD in general and how to deal with them (which is important considering how many there are). Possibly get some screenshots.

Deciding on rating with more comments.

Comment #2 has not read the guide and now gets a warning for it. Theres a very obvious section on the Dagon.

Doesn't Enigma's Ulti go through BKB?

Anyways good guide, very explanatory.

oooohhhh #5
nice build but i prefer getting lothars then aghanims and the maybe shivas..

i'm trying to find a boyfriend...

Just lol at orochi's comment

Very very good and indepth guide. Some screenies would've been nice, but i give it a 9.5/10

lol about the Lina guide

i agree with the item and skill build except i get flask at level 1 but that really doesnt matter lol. glad that you gave different builds and explain why you dont need dagon.

screenshots could be added but that really doesnt matter and a final stats with your item build could be shown but that isnt really needed either.

nice presentation overall and shows how to use Witch Doctor effeciently.

9/10

I like the guide..

One quick tip I learned using Voljin. When facing against heroes that uses life steal. It lessens the cursing powers of maledict because of the gained health per hit of the hero. So THINK TWICE if you are going to ambush Broodmother and Naix. Analyze the situation and the level of your char before fighting.. ^_^

I don't get the skill voodoo restor becos early/mid game not enough mana perse already is enough for helt gain
better get stats til lvl 17 then get VR

Score 8/10

Vole's gonna be pissed! At least he knows when it will come out now though.
@ Strat- Its similar to the way that I play. I always get crap for not getting a loathers but I feel it slows down the core build to much and If you play agressive most people dont stop to stun you during a gank or team battle anyway. I give it a 9/10 Great job

well Shim, voting for this strat is effectively not voting for mine, hence shun!

@MacGregor not yet, but if the same happens next week it will be different

@Forsa yes, Black Hole does go through BKB

@zimbabwerocks@yahoo.com good luck with that, I think there's a few thousand people here that would volunteer

@Kogaru pwned, reading that strat is important

I find the lack of screenshots disturbing.

and now on to my comments
late game tanking? I'm skeptical but will still read through

I don't think I've ever seen a WD strat focus on Voodoo early, and for good reason

your explanation of maledict was very superficial, would like to see it explained in more detail

I'm pretty sure Riki's ward didn't require channeling, hence more powerful and not (since it could be killed)

for skill build would switch 1 and 2, if they try to gank for a FB, the stun will be much more useful than Maledict, the random stats are wierd but okay

item build? or is it versatile?

with the new patch,

dude, u should put in some screenshots or video....
but nice guide anyway...

you can have the life bars always be there, you could link Ghost's Guide to Dota (it covers last hitting and denying), also WD has a high base damage so he can last hit really well

are you auto attacking the creeps or the hero? creeps is a nono and the hero is usually a nono unless there is like 1-2 enemy creeps, and harassing through maledict is pretty good, especially since it disables almost all heals (except tangoes)

I would say more kills come from good teamwork rather than enemy

stupidity

solo info is good

I don't think Warlock is that good, it's better to deal all the nuke damage asap so it will trigger more bonus damage from the curse, so 1 hit nukes are better than dot spells imo

setting specific guidelines such as going back to base at lvl 6/7 isn't too good, especially if you have a good lane partner and are controlling the lane well, if the enemy isn't getting any items then you will still have the advantage

nice info on who to gank, does kraken shell remove

very nice, 10/10

c-c-c-combo breaker

maledict? since it doesn't show up as an icon

heroes that can go invis aren't that much of a problem since you will be ganking with allies, preferably those with stuns, so if you land maledict and then deal some damage the curse should be able to finish them off

if you gank Lich, you should have 2-3 stun since his Chain Frost can rip apart 2 heroes, feeding him is not the best thing in the world

you keep calling Maledict Malice, you should change that to eliminate confusion

if Sven stuns you

and then starts running, how will you be able to get off your combo since the target is nowhere close to you

nice combo, does this change at all when you have allies? (yes it does, depending on your ally)

how exactly do you bait them? starting your combo is not exactly the same as baiting and will usually be a waste (unless you have an ally, which you should talk about more)

what is the range of placing the deathward? you should place it close to where you think they will try and run, so

they get hit more, take more damage, and die

and even if they attack you and kill you, you would probably get the kill due to maledict and the bonus damage

does the killing walkthrough change at all for allies? (if you haven't gotten it by now, I think WD is more a team player rather than a solo killer so I think you should be covering everything in terms of solo and team play)

and running into the creep is not usually suicide, it's probably the smartest option since WD is behind you

I really like how this guide has solid explanations, I think 9/10. Hope the writer replies to the comments.

what happens if the enemy stuns you to cancel the deathward? should you stay and fight or run?

Which part of the Scepter should you get first? does it matter? what about the pieces of the soulbooster, any specific order there?

I don't really think Voodoo restoration alters the combo any, just makes you able to stay and attack longer, which won't really matter too much since the Ward and maledict will be doing the bulk of the damage

maybe it's just me but my definition of gank has 2 heroes,

not just one, so 1v1 gank fest is just LOL, and you can still gank into late game if people are off farming by themselves, and all game is team play, it's just that big clashes tend to happen more often in late game

void and troll have little hp so they make easy targets for ganking, even in late game when you have disables (hence no stunlock)

why BoT over treads? (I agree but you might want to explain it)

anti melee build is fine, for the anti stun build, should those be 2 talismans or 2

bracers? since you will need to choose early when you buy your first items, same with anti disable/silence build

LOL, you are concerned about micro with dagon but Necro is an item you consider, confused? I agree it can be good since you will be able to attack with the minions while channeling but it will be hard to control, would only recommend for experienced micro players

in a 2v1 situation, casks will be much more useful than Guinsoo, but yes Guinsoo is very useful, good for all int heroes

Pretty good guide.. As far as Silencer is concerned, make sure to mention that his ult will go through BKB. Also, make sure to mention that quite a few spells go through BKB.. search the forums, theres a link to a DA guide that summarizes every spell and it's effect on magic immunity and BKB.

Would like screenies, maybe on cast range/cast delay on maledict, some shots of the AoE of maledict, or a picture of when to use the cask, or something like that

8/10

you should also add in something about using the Sheep on the hero who can silence you, allowing for your combo to go off without a hitch

who says dagon WD isn't the right way to play him? just because you don't use it doesn't mean it doesn't work, people use it because it allows for easy kills and it works (however, team play is always much more valuable and skipping Dagon can let you get your core item faster)

magnatuar is a good ally, Leshrac is okay (view previous comment about dot heroes)

awsome dude!

and his stun has a delay so you might want to lead with Casks so he can stun and you can Maledict easier

(about troubleshooting) or I could be reading the entire guide

enigma's ulti is also a silence, but mainly it is a big aoe disabler

last word lasts up to 4 seconds, not 3, and it is aoe, but that AOE is 1000, kinda hard to avoid in team clashes and especially if you are tyring to target him in a gank

global silence will go through BKB, you should definitely point that out

baiting wasn't

really described earlier

BKB doesn't provide immunity to all spells, you should talk about those it doesn't (since they are counters, even if you have BKB)

Balanar has 2 targeted spells, so a smart player would waste Void and the hit you with Fear silencing you for 7 seconds, where he proceeds to kill you (and you can't do anything about that)

if Ogre multicasts, will that go through Linkens?

Luci, same thing as Balanar but will waste LVL Death and then kill you with Doom

if you are against

lots of disablers, that means that they will have low hp, and will be easy kills for ganks (even if your ward gets interrupted, Maledict will usually kill them)

even is they have disablers, you should still play offensively since your combo is still powerful, so being stuck with a team support role is not the best thing for WD considering his abilities

YOU NEED TO COVER TEAM PLAY, yes you list some good allies, but that only appears in early game and ne and different allies are useful in mid

and late game, and the order of stuns/disables can be very important

are there any items you should not get with WD? what about a DPS build? (is that even possible? and it is worth it?)

screenshots are needed

the bar has been set high by Steve-O's guide, this guide doesn't present much more than his guide, it is useful but I would say his guide is better


would rate as 6/10
needs some work, unless you are on, address comments, update, or show any kind of effort on this guide I will rate it

as such (or lower), you have 1 week from today before I rate it

it has potential but you need to cover some stuff

Curses to all those who interrupted my posting spree

@Orochi very mature, at least someone deleted your double post (yeah, I saw that)

@Kogaru LOL, already said that but LOL

and the most disappoint thing is that there are no Captain Planet references, auto FAIL

*adds 'give fole 3000 char limit' to the very very long to-do list*

@c-c-c combo breaker rofl
@ guide writers When folechno comments your strat you get easy 25 comments :P
I think there should be a 10k char limit on every strat just for folechno, the problem is that I get bored before I finish reading his comment
@ Captain Planet I love screenshots, so guide isn't perfect to me.Lothars Edge is very useful for WD because he automaticaly eliminates 75 % enemies who must target him in order to stun him
And I didn't like the guide before I read ut because...

In introduction part you say it is hard to learn DotA with WD.Seing as I haven't played any other hero in first month I played DotA, that statement is wrong.Learning DotA with this guy was very fun.And I forgot to say that screenshots here aren't required so the guide will be nice, they would be very useful for demonstrating how to do combos perfectly.
8/10
PS: I realized maledict animation has changed when I died from it :( Took me time to realize that was maledict...if it is?

I like this guide very much, good coverage of everything important, excellent grammar (except Maledict - Malice) and easy to understand -10/10 because im in a good mood ;)

voljin and casper mad combo together cask>maledict>Grip GG for most ....good strat though would like a dagon

Good guide, you touch on everything and get into some good detail. I'd go more into the situational aspect of WD because he requires a certain environment to be effective (namely 2 heroes no creeps or 1 creep 1 hero).

You also don't talk about the behind the tree warding, which I think is pretty common. Simply stay behind a treeline and use your ward on the other side. Also works down or up a cliff.

But its just a simple 'use 3 skills' guide, theres not a lot more than common sense here...

One of my first characters to play was the witch doctor and i hated him. Then several games later i had to play with him again and i finally understood that he could possibly one of the best heroes in Dota. Looking through ur strategy was amazing. I would have to say you did a great job describing every situation possible. And with the help of ur guide i hope to strike fear into those who are ignorant enough not to know of WD...

@ folechno
Nice posting spree. Lets see if you also have that much to say on my Necrolyte strategy (you didnt had much to say at my previous one (Alchemist) go check it). Well im to tired now to read the guide because i got an exam tomorrow, yes i failed first :p but will be alright. Tomorrow i will read the guide and give my comments about it.

very good guide...missing screenies but its ok considering how many heroes you dealt with 10/10 its like the strat of steve-o !!!

Would be really helpful if it had screenies like Steve-O's guide. I think the Dagon build is overrated so yours is perfect :D

Nice:D 8/10

Hey nice guide on WD, updated too.

amazing guide ! 11/10 :D

good guide so far

his early game bear should not be rooting you too much.

made me LOL

I like it. Except for the dagon part.

If you thought about buying a dagon to improve your maledict, why haven't you thought of getting your allies to help?
They can do more than 400 damage and they cost no less than a call.

Then you could spend your money for something like guinsoo or necronomicon.

MALEDICT NOT MALICE

MALEDICT!!!!!!!

great guide! very imdepth, especially about partners and allies. i like doctor, now i just gotta play as u say. cheers

1. If you cast cask on a hero with linkens, will it negate and continue to bounce on creeps?

2. If you were able to land maledict properly and suddenly the hero casted BKB, will the damage continue?

3. Does Hood of Defiance lower the damage and curse time of maledict and death ward?

4. I dont really get maledict, so does massing hearts lowers maledicts damage?

5. If youre up with centaur (full health)with 2HoT, LS, HoD, BkB will your combo finish him?

overall good guide 9/10 =3

Wd guide 8/10
Folechno anti-guide 10/10

I think Folch is trying too hard to point out negligible details that don't really contribute to the overall quality of the guide. I enjoyed this immensely on a different opinion/build level. High rating =)

nice strat lol it can help me a lot with WD. Thnx 10/10

@folechno
Why so serious? Let's out a smile on that face. =)

Nice detailed strategy 9/10.
my choice:
a void stone before the bloodstone for mana (and thus health)purposes- you'll hardly need any more mana regen items after that.
and after the afghanistan scepter--->bkb

Folechno has a third of the first 50 comments...
Giving me a choice of this guide or one other guide (which was not Lina) does not mean I said not Lina! And Orochi gave me that choice. Grumble. Lame set-up.

Folechno is right, a quick (or slow and boring) skill breakdown or description would be very good. Of course, he could also put a link to the DotA wiki...

how bout pudge???
is he another weakness????
he is one of the hardest strength..
and has flesh heap..which reduce magic damage....
u can't hide from dismember and the hook...which means bkb and lothar is useless...

WD is one of my favorite heroes, but I have some concerns with your itembuild.

Dagon: Is not only for noobs! You can easily kill any carry @ 15min as long as you have mana without any counter to it. The kill takes about 3 sec... who needs ward after a dagon hit on gondar/riki/spectre whatever? But I would not upgrade it. just sell when it is useless. Against a good puck you would have no way to kill him 1v1 otherwise e.g.

And Guinsoo in general build first allows permavoodoo + easier killing

according to your guide, you get scepter as your first main item.

i get lothars first. you dont need to immediately max your ulti first. i believe surviving is a more important matter.

you could also replace lothars with BKB, it works the same way, except lothars can be countered.

Its quite good.

but Maledict at lvl 1 is really bad. Will cask can save you from a potential FB.

other than that, pretty good,

Screenshots can be quite useful too, especialy maledict without stun, ward placing etc.

Well explained guide and lots of item builds. The mail problem though -> no screenies
4/5

wow fole. you just delivered 17 comments. i wonder, will someone do that to your lina guide? of course you're not gonna do this to your own guide.

Wow. Good strategy. I like it. I'm just wondering, why there's no bottle?

Bottle is not a must-have on all heroes... or even on just this one... god...

lothars, agha and bot
doc dont need dagon look at steve-o witch doctor strat... it is the perfect strat for doc

WRONG... IN WD'S COMBO,,, USE MALEDICT FIRST THEN PARALYZING CASK SO THAT THE ENEMY HERO WILL TAKE MUCH DAMAGE FROM THE PARALYZING CASK THEN U CAN SUMMON DEATH WARD... AYT... INCASE

paralyzing cask has no damage to heroes ryt?

btw nice guide 8/10

I've noticed that serpentson unknowingly and unintentionally, keeps on breaking fole's chain messages ... I cant remember but theres 1 guide that he does that too... anyway,
Not really necessary but... where's Shiva's? I mean *some people get it and *some owns with it. different item builds get different results. What about your regards to radiance? the immolation adds a lot to maledict( I get it sometimes, yea call me dumb) and it works... hell great. 6/10 for now... Screenie--less :)

Nice guide on ma favo hero!!

Kenneth: "Deals damage per bounce to non-hero units." Nice. Non-hero units are the targets after all... everyone knows that.

No screenshots...
automatic 7/10 from that point because you need screenies imo to be able to show how to correctly use your casks and where to place your ward.
Good ideas / strat...just need screenshots.
=)

Hmm seeing what you said on the Dagon, I kinda disagree. Dagon should be an item gotten after Scepter/Lothar ? Together with curse it makes doctor a fun hero to use, showing how deadly curse can get. Everything else is =)

Well first i wanna say Voljin has absolutely no tanking ability not even with his Voodoo restoration. That was to start with.

Now in your skill build get cask earlier then maledict because it will help more in certain situations you can encounter eg getting focus fired very quickly.

3th: DoT spells aren't good combo spells with your maledict, its better to nuke the hell out of them like lightning bolt from Zeus (direct spells not DoT spells) so your enemy will take full bonus damage.

4th: you say easy prey are Tinker and Lich. Dude i don't know if you know Tinker his spells but he can instantly finish you off alone when you try to kill him alone. Voljin hasnt enough hp to support his heavy nukes so i STRONGLY ADVICE you remove him from there. Same for Lich. Even if their is 1 creep with you your dead even before you launch your ward.

You say when you attack sven with a cask and then maledict he WILL stun you. Sry to say but the most sven players won't they will just run.

And Sven players try to hold their stun for offensive purposes not defnesive purposes. Also i wonder how you would keep up with a sven who stunned you and is fleeing (which in my way is stupid) Smart sven players will wait until u cast your ward so they can cancel it. Don't pretend your enemies are all stupid plz.

You say the combo Cask Maledict Ward is difficult, in my eyes it aint that difficult to complete just because the AoE is small from Maledict, no it can be done easier then you think

And then for my last comment i would say a big NO to Radiance eventhough it gives more damage and immolation to let get maledict more bonus damage. Replace it with Guinsoo. A 3 sec disable is far better to let your ward get more hits or even you and besides, Guinsoo also gives good damage for your hero so you won't need Radiance at all!

Combo you can try to improve Maledict effect.

Cask -> Maledict -> Hex -> Ward

So your ward can get more hits on him and that is far more better then Radiance.

Also i notice the lack of screenies, update this asap because Voljin really needs screenies if you wanna teach new players how to maledict well.

Well i think that is all i have to say for now

Gl with updating.

nice guide although i prefer the n00b dag0n combo haha
dagon is so more powerful, its cheap for mid game
get a dagon and then simply bloodstone, youll never die again :P

Steve o's with doctor is far much better than this...he include lothars and dagon.....

Did you read the guide at all trapper?

another guide for my fave hero.
just add some pics or videos so
you can surpast Steve-O's accomplishment




hehehe.. well i still like Steve-O coz he is like the original, and the one who helped me master this hero...


but i like this guide
9/10

funny thing against sb just let him charge and stand around ur creeps and maledict and let the creeps do the damage
^_^ hilarious when he gets pissed when he dies

Actually any heros with a stun practically counters witch dotor lol

good guide
im familiar with the lothars build but the others are just as good 10/10

erhm against your silencers part

his ulti goes trough bkb

at least that happened to me when i was playing rylai i blink + BKB and i pwn everyone but silencer global silences so i stop with my ulti (still pwned him =) )

I don't think a stun counters witchdoctor. A stun counters witchdoctors ultimate yes, but he still has 3 good abilities beyond that. Unfortunately this guide is set solely on the cask/maledict/death ward combo. You can play WD without getting death ward. I've done the voodoo/maledict early, cask midgame, mek + arcane ring + bot = fountain on demand, INSANE pushing in midgame.

Ugh he isn't commenting... not again, please not again...

Very nice guide, but i don't think that Witch Doc is all skill based like you mentioned^^
Okay, i wouldn't recommend him to a newb, but you can't do much wrong when you got linkin and/or lothar.
Also, i would always go for agahim over shiva but i'm not the pro i would like to be :D
Thanks for the efford.

Good job! 10/10

Dun have anything more to say than you rock!

dagon is great for adding dmg. to da curse :P nice strat dude

evry1 blame shim for this. aother passive guide writer.
oh well, nice guide, need screenies. i luv screenies. didnt no moonraven is still here. update ur cm guide pls.
why is this here tho? wed have a very high rated guide on wd tat has everything needed. rite. we were promised mo then 1 guide, unholy, u liar. lol.ok lina next week, pls

I wished you'd talk more about voodoo actually. It's a pretty decent heal. But cannot be supported by witch's mana early game. Anyway, why add maledict at level 1?
"Level 1 - Enemies lose 5 hp/sec, 10 bonus damage for every 100 hp lost during curse. "
It's not like you're going to use it at level 1 unless you're going for a 'first blood gank' Casks first. Why? Your hp is low, and casks saves you and your ally from ganks. Anyway yes, good guide. Pretty indepth.

Try adding screenies. It helps alot. Especially for someone like vol jin who has 2 aoe spells. Vol jin can be a good pusher too btw. a 5 second stun on creeps is powerful. Your own creeps can take the enemy wave down without getting attacked.

personally i dont use dagon,
but when you do the maths it really is a killer:

DPS from maledict(lvl 4)= 20*12=240
DMG from Dagon(lvl 1)=400
Bonus DMG from Maledict= (240+400)/100
=6x40=240
TOTAL DMG FROM CURSE + DAGON = 240+400+240 = 880

thats 880 dmg from just curse and dagon alone, not counting hero attacks, creep attacks, or even DEATH WARD.

that is some hefty dmg right there.

^lol wrong math, it would look like
casts Maledict
during 1st 4 sec
80 dmg due to Maledict
400 dmg from dagon
1st Trigger, 160 bonus dmg
2nd 4 sec
80 more dmg
2nd trigger 280 bonus dmg
3rd 4 sec
80 more dmg
3rd trigger, 400 bonus dmg
total dmg: 1480

there's a reason people like Dagon, and that would be it, add in a Cask or two and some regular attacks and dead

@guide and you really need to explain how Maledict works, very important

Again no replyes from author...!

@ folechno

you better reply in your guide soon when it is out or i crush you

That math is wrong, dagon doesnt deal 1400 dmg after maledict.

You have to factor in magic resistance (applied at every interval, so it brings it down alot), hp regen, etc.

If they have a mek, you wasted all your mana.

@BG well, I've always wanted to take 2 vacations in a row, see you guys in October

@rain9441 you're right, but at least I have the right function of maledict, with the triggers at the right point, the magic resistance would probably make it less than 1k (I don't want to work out the math, just guessing)

Pretty good build. Lothars should be in every WD build though. There is nothing more annoying then stun, male, ult...where'd he go?!

1)Talisman x2
2)Lothars
3)Agahnims
4)Boots
5)Pretty much any item that lets you keep perma heal on (guinsoo, refresher, or orchid - although I don't personally like orchid on him).

nice guide bro, good builds, try getting skadi with him, works well to slow them and then maledict

"If you have any questions please feel free to ask."
Rofl. We ask, you don't answer though :).

@ Shimmra
Even though I like this guide, I have to complain about something. Why don't you guys check the activity of the person before approving the strat???
I disagreed with folechno saying that you should keep priority list, which is ofcourse right, but this is ridiculous. You know that the poster is inactive, you know he has minimum chances to come back, and you approve his strategy!
continued...

This leads to outdated guides and unfairness. It is soooo simple to check his activity, then send him a PM which he has to answer in 1 week, and if not, post another strategy. I can't believe that it is so hard to find a strategy of an active person!

It isnt, folechnos and mine are coming :p

After my previous post I did actually consider just that - having a system where guides can only be published if the creator is paying attention. I'm going to the top with that proposal as soon as possible.

Since u already mentioned that this guide is for new ones(i am somewhat one of them) I like this guide very much. Despite being new to the game I can play doc with a dagon as well. Thanks to ur guide now I think i will be able to play doc more aggresively. And for the score well deserved 10 out of 10.

Since u already mentioned that this guide is for new ones(i am somewhat one of them) I like this guide very much. Despite being new to the game I can play doc with a dagon as well. Thanks to ur guide now I think i will be able to play doc more aggresively. And for the score well deserved 10 out of 10.

Woaaa cool guide, I will prectice with him soon, thankzz

haha use dagon if your enemies (1v1 situiation) are heroes w/ 400+ hp only hehe you can kill them at lvl 1. for example mirana maledict+dagon at lvl 1=sure deadz... xD

@mielbalboa not helpful, all heroes have 400+ hp, and yes, maledict will kill all heroes at lvl 1, but who has a dagon at lvl 1?

Love your guide. It's the best I ever saw here

Another guide which fails in terms of author feedback.

Is giving folechno a 10k char limit that hard to do?

@107:
I actually removed my guide as I didnt think It'd be approved at all. I mean, the way guides seem approved... It's like a sort of lucky draw

" holding ALT to see the creeps HP " What are you some retard. there is a option to turn the hp bar of the creeps on 0/5 on denying part but over all the guide was ok

Boa!

@bloodystorm

No need to call the author a retard. Not everyone has upgraded to 1.22. I myself use Alt even on 1.22 and perform well.

yeah great
but i just can't understand
the dagon for pros?!like yeah

if u do the math a lvl 5 dagon and maledict is approx 2300 dmg over 12 seconds

@rambol:

yea... As do I. I'm so used to pressing on to alt constantly that I dont even bother using that new function

Not sure if it has been mentioned or not, but Maledict is hard to use because of its casting range - NOT the AoE.

Just point out to you, if you activate bkb and get hit by enig's ulti, you wont get the damage but you will get sucked in, so theres so good counter for enigma.

one of this guy's partners should be lich. imagine paralyzing cask + chain frost.

I would say BOOM and wipe out the whole team......
anyway good guide 9/10
Why not 10/10?
Nobodys perfect ;P

great guide man.. ^^ it will help me a lot since this is my fave hero

very nice guide, indeed. dagon is almost useless late game agaist stregth heroes and agi unless you upgrade it but it's generally not worth the money. get dagon when the other team has lots of nukers

@ 116 I think this guide was written before Blizzard™ released patch 1.22 for Warcraft III, and at that time there wasn't such an option. Next time think before making a comment like that.
@ sks1994 holy shit

your guide is tooo long and boring..
and your item build is too expensive..
see the steve'o's guide..its work nicely..
7/10

1. 1 or 2 bracer
2. rush dagon 1 or guincoo
3. agha or guincoo
4. lothar
5. GG

WD is a team play not for solo if u want GG

Im pretty sure on this but it is possible to counter maledict in one simple way. Deny the the allied targeted hero. Thats what i do when WD does that dum curse. People often forget it is possible to deny Heros . Anyway im not so sure about blademail?? seems useless even if it adds to maledict since voljin must be able to first of all take damge. 5/10

you're a good english speaker man...

uhm,
PS.
try using a WD in a 5on5 tournament...
Let's see if it'll last...

i disagree with the dagon part.you try this yourself
-cask a enemy
-go near and maledict
-then dagon

and belive me its a sure kill because with a lvl 5 dagon and death ward your maledict damage may go upto 1500.
eg.
it will go up like 250,then 480,650,990 etc

Still no responds, o well its getting common.

extremely well written, A+

Imo its a good strat.. just weak. my build works like max male and cask w/ ulti at lvl 9 then mass stats till you have enough mana regen for voodoo getting Bots Dagon (asap) Aghanims shivas Radience (or skadi slow pwnz imo)
then lothars linkens or something to counter enemy heroes.. it works Good strat though... i like the worst enemies parts.. stunners and heroes that regen quickly or pugna are the only ones that get in my way as Voljin.

ANd kracken shell doesnt stop maledict i think seeing as it isnt an effect that appears like shadowstrike ; on the effect and buffs bar

Actually, WD is one of the few heroes that can use Dagon, because Maledict essentially gives you a Dagon 5. Mathcraft:
300 damage (from Dagon)
60 damage (Maledict base damage)
Bonus damage 144 (0.4 * 360 hp)
60 damage
Bonus damage 201
60 damage
Bonus damage 306
For total of 1071 damage
This is without attack damage, and if you and your friends were wacking enemy damage would go up by a lot if i did my math right.

maledict looks like a purple smoke of death now

i loved your guide man, i always play with WD and i never get a dagon, cause..as you said.. this may twist the real WD, and I agree... dagon works great with WD but there´s a lot more about WD than just getting a dagon

well, maledict is an imba skill anyway
it's not a debuff, so kraken shell won't stop it
nice guide anyway
buat i prefer to use dagon so i can save the ulti

well, maledict is an imba skill anyway
it's not a debuff, so kraken shell won't stop it
nice guide 9/10
buat i prefer to use dagon

get lothar's asap! then boots, aghanims, bot.

good guide

Great Guide, It explains Everything about WD and how to counter counters!! (10/10)

This strat is very good for it is complete and helps a lot...
The comment of "Kogaru" that states that this strat suck is not true....
maybe Kogaru is the one who sucks

Score: 10/10

hhahaa...nyc dude

i think Nevermore can defeat Voljin easily

but thank for guide

nice but i like some screen shots

Lovely strat. Though I love his killer abilities in mid-game I suggest to turn him into a supporter/tank in late-game. That built requires more hp which means HoT should be an option. Besides Guinsoo, Aghanims, BoT and Lothars are required. Optional would be BKB, Linken´s or a second HoT. gg 10/10

You are serious with Linkens against Doom?`

He´ll just start with a lvl? death -.-'

very well explained guide ,
i think u shld include some pics
9.5 / 10

once again i read yet another retards work..!! when will these morons stop writing filth? u do know guides is meant to guide ppl???? voljin is a hero who can do much with very little.. !! u call it the "anti stun" skillbuild.. so ur senile?? for those who dont know.. u should get stunned.. use maledict.. use ulti.. and just stand there.. when ur low and the enemy can stun again... go invi... u can still stand in invis and keep ulti sapping ppl...!!!!! 1/10

nice!

this is an awsome display im just 12 years old and just played dota 4 1 and a half.Some are stupid 2 not understand tji that means they think thier fukin strategeys are better.If thats what they think then why the fuck do they fave to read this awsome strategy(theirs are stupid strategys)

Great Stradegy. If followed correctly you will truley own with witch doc. Even mid-end game this guy completely owns the competition. Item build is extremly important, and this guide covers every possible solution. Depending on who you are facing will depend on what your build looks like.

Vol'jin its my fav hero since his overall skills are so so so nice
especially his third skill...
its so sucks man..