Click Me Baby, One More Time

Apparently, it's already Friday in the smallest continent in the world. Pre-emptive strike!

I actually wanted to comment before going to sleep... mods have privileges woo.

Well. You already know what I think about this guide. Its gooood.

See, mods are also allowed to spam.

Wow what a great guide! It's got a lot of info it it and i really love the screenshots!

quit good it is

Very nice strategy indeed. Love how you explained stuff with the youtube videos, imo it works nicely.
I LOL'ed at the name btw :D
GJ! 10/10 from me, can't find anything wrong with this strategy.

1st. Great Strat. 8/10 cos lots of visual. Btw lina is my first hero. Thx for the strat. It teaches from basic should call this strat Slayer@Lina Inverse For Dummies. LOL

Nc guide... 9/10

Nice :D

Aww I can't find an excuse to victimize someone like I did with the last guide. Damn. Oh well.

Real comment tomorrow if any... I could just say 10/10 now though.

nice strat!! 8/10

Don't forget puck as a silencer.

You write:

"Since Dragon Slave is more mana efficient at lower levels (1 and 2), it is a better harassing tool."

But the table you posted clearly shows that Dragon Slave is more mana efficient at HIGHER levels (2 damage for 1 mana at level 4), whereas it sucks incredibly bad at lower levels (almost 1 damage for 1 mana at level 1).

Nice guide. Very well explained. I love it!

Just to tell ya, her ulti isnt the strongest in the game, techies suicide is

Twisiti3 good obs,but if you looked better you would have seen that dragon slave is maxed first...

Nice strat but i would whant to see more infamous combos,not only the Doc+Lina one
Pugna+Lina,Rasta+Lina,Lion+Lina....you could have sayed more on goo ganging allys....

Oh and say more on doing an kill on lvl 6,it's realy easy and show more ways to kill solo,i saw only one...the rest of the killing was made with an great help from allys

Vakma... u're talking about good combos with lina ?, even thought about sand King ? that's one of the most powerfull combos ingame , it's used alot in Leagues aswell, and it works for non-"skilled" players aswell(no offense) Lina as u the guide said, can team-up with any hero there is, even Rikimaru.

you should have considered taking dagon (even though I don't use it anyway), but besides that, I can say you elaborated everything about lina perfectly. 10/10. I'd appreciate it if more screenies would be placed ^.^

oh, sorry, I didn't see the dagon section, sorry for double posting >.< anyway, additional comment, when I use lina, I have a hard time filling my mana, you should have added a section about it especially in early game

Excellent job Fole! lived up to your rants and proved yourself. You can now ocntinue to flame guides without mercy (but with a 5k character limit)!

I would have to say keep aghs as the primary item for the main build (since you explicitly say caster), but also discuss a more supportive build in conclusion, with BoT, euls, sheep, and mek. Thats a good amount of disables with LSA, and is pretty dece if your team need support instead of nukes.

Fear not, the guide maker is here to answer your questions.

@bango yeah, I liked the name, thought it was pure genius

@mato89 ty for the idea but I like my title a little more

@Shimrra_3 maybe it's too good to flame about, it's a possibility

@tearshed thanks, I'll add Puck during the update (and your name as well)

@Twisti3 yes, DS is more mana efficient at higher levels, but for the lower levels, DS is more mana efficient than LSA, hence you should max that first for more dmg/mana

curses, Orcochi you need to implement that 10k character limit

@Vaenra yeah, but LB doesn't kill you

@Vakma k, will do that more for the update

@valborgofdestiny I'm sure the though crossed his mind, especially since my ss have a double kill with SK

@serpentson yeah, Orochi has failed me :( and thanks for voting in the poll, and I'll add that support build in the update

@everyone else there is a poll, you can vote

Havnt read guide but i guess it will be 10/10 its veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long and got loads of pictures ;)

I suggest you read it then (and yeah, I think it's a 10)

you are a noob... stealer.. ouuuuu
xxx
you stole the kill from sven///
omfg
!!!
it was certain kill....

play lina with more dps ...
dont do the scythe of vyse recipe.. ..
go for orchid

last kill with sven was KS
no really, good guide
it`s just what newbs want
10/10

that series of ss are from the Chill and Corpo reply, not mine, so you can go complain to them about ksing

SteliosrulezGR I covered a dps Lina in the conclusion please read

I`m not complaining, I was just tryin` to be funny

Do stupid text and screenshots go off screen just to me?

Good guide btw, I would just use some heading fonts/bold text to make paragraphs and some other things look nicer :)

@DarkLord_sr that was mainly for the other guy who doesn't read, who can you comment if you don't even read?

@Moon_Raven the ss stay on screen for me, I'll most likely shrink them so they don't distort the page, and when I update the text will get some formatting so it looks prettier

oh, now I see the guy above me
sorry

Lawl you thanked IF.

Agreed.

Fantastic Guide. you win at life.

High Five! :D

@DarkLord_sr it's cool

@markues1775 well yeah, he hasn't cone anything to Lina recently and he maintains the map so he derserves recognition

*raises hand*

VOTE ON MY POLL, PLEASE

mods should aprove more good guides... the rylai guide was a disaster, and the witch doctoor guide didn`t bring anything new, Steve~o`s says it all
gj again

Well I know you would like i comment on your guide as soon as possible. Today i am to tired sorry to say but i will read it tomorrow and give you everything i got. (And will vote)

Good guide man, 10/10
one thing though, why dont u add dagger in the additional item list??
It can be a useful item.

Pawnage Guide...one of the best around.
Great job ! 10/10.

I read it now used on bnet and got triplekill and unstoppable ;)

I change my opinion about the 10/10

btw...where can i give 12/10??? :D

Well, I will say a regular guide with the ones published these days. And it may be just my disappointment that no one else has figured out my Lina/Bloodstone strategy :D

i thaught when pugna uses netehrplane spell only he could damage.

or can AoE spells hit?


i like the guide, easy to understand... my current guide lacks good escreeshots ect.. no detail w/e.

enevr notice how cool drgaon looks =]

not sur eif i missed it, but i did read msot of it well.
no specific infomation about how much laguna balde does when maxed+advanaced ability.

thats my only critisism, very very good guide =] thourough =]

Good strategy.

I want to see less INT hero guides.

Last three on Friday's have been.

Nice guide even covers DPS Lina.

And photoshops everlasting trial is amazing if I dont say so myself.

bang, i am here.
now if i hadn't already reviewed this guide i might have something to say...

oh but the pictures and replays help.

Pages of generic dota strats (eg last hitting/denying), -5 points. You say don't harass with LSA, -5 points for that. Scepter, -5 points. Stats before nukes, -5 points. Tons of pics on aiming an AOE, -5 points.

Damage/mana efficiency means nil. Lina is about the triple nuke (or quad w/ dagon) and LSA. By your logic you shouldn't get laguna more than lvl 1.

#1 rule of Lina, when u turn lvl 6, you have enough mana to LSA/DS/Blade, and u kill the enemy in your lane. No mention of this...

Great Job! Covers up everthing about Lina, nice screenshots and explanations.
But I cant help thinking that, this guide might be underestimated( if it is the right word) since that Lina is a commonly used hero and considered somewhat easy to play.
But guides are not for Pro players right? 9/10 Maybe its just me but it came a little long to me and lets look at lina part looks like doubled altough there are little differences.
Great Job again

Rofl, finally it got published.
Really good job folechno. You covered realy everything about Lina. This is surely gonna be the next featured guide. Question: Is HoT or Manta also a viable choice for increased survivability?
If I could give the guide a 20 I would, but the limit is 10 :(.

Impressive.

Now folechno is making the strat, nobody seems to be dominating the comments section with "comments-spree"

mmm maybe ghost or rambol or greater bash will do that for you, fole.

Amazing guide, I think you should add and describe several more counters for Lina for the next update. Keep up the good work, fole!

@Greater Bash :(

@AmC-DotaAddict After the nerf to the dagger, I don't think it's as useful, sure it helps for placement and is somewhat useful for escaping, but it doesn't do too much

@TalkToFrank glad you like it, unfortunately you can't give it a 12 :(

@SlwaBluPhnx that would be a decent optional item, I could see how it would be useful, I'll probably add it

@moogle-taxi nope, when Pugna uses decrepify any spells can effect the hero, including aoe spells, and I'll add some more numbers

@Forsa I thought it was everlasting, but it ended (it didn't show how much more time I had when it loaded)

@Ghost I'm sure there's something you want to comment on

@rain9441 did you read it? guides are for new players, not pros, I have a single paragraph about last hitting/denying and a link, hence not pages, you don't harass with LSA since it is easier to dodge with the delay between casting and the effect, I say this is a caster build, hence scepter, I also have a poll about whether Guinsoo

should be the core item, I did consider maxing both nukes first and am going to change that in my update, there are pics on aiming the aoe since there is a delay so you need to aim it where the enemy is going, and this is important for new players, early game when you don't have that much mana, getting the most out of it is important, so yes dmg/mana is important, and LB is her ulti, why would you ever skip that? as for rule 1, thanks for constructive criticism, and since you are obviously a pro

why don't you grace us with your expansive knowledge

@Atakanoguz yeah, I was afraid the length would discourage people from reading it, I'll be taking out a bunch of text during the update, if you have any links that would let me take out a paragraph, post it here

@jimboh they both are good, but I think that Manta would be slightly better, since people will target her with a stun and then kill her easily due to low hp, with Manta they have to find the right one and by then she can get off a

stun to allow her to escape, unfortunately the images won't mana burn since they are ranged but that's okay since it's more for survival

@Pinky Ishkafel I'm dominating the comments section mwahahaha, and what counters are you thinking of? I got magic immmunity and resistance and silencer, what else is there beside being a giant tank or lots of disables? (and those apply to all heroes, not just Lina)

constructive criticism is appreciated, flaming is not

and no one is voting in my poll :(

Oh. Well i didn't really mean to ask you to update the "counter" section but I would like to see how to counter doombringer if you use Lina because from my personal experience, I have never won against doombringer whenever I use lina (or maybe i'm just too stupid? dunno lol)

I voted 10/10 for the poll but there seems to be ppl who voted it 2/10 and it destroyed the rating. won't tell, sorry

@Pinky Ishkafel right, and I forgot him as a silencer, as to counter that, stun him, stop him from casting doom since you can't really do anything after he does

and ppl? as in more than 1? I have a fairly good idea who one is, but more? the must not have commented so I can't make the guide any better :(

finally seen folechno's guide
it is good

fight with an AI??
trash...

Nice guide, but, if a want a battle lina for late game, when her spells just tickle the oppoenent, can i have this build?
1)treads(int)
2)Guinsoo
3)Mkb
4)Aghanims
IS this a good battle lina build?? just askin....

Nice guide, it covers all the basics. I prefer getting a Bloodstone over a Scepter for the regeneration since Lina is such an awesome hero killer.

Also, the Ogre Magi and Juggernaut screenshots were from AI games. If the Ogre Magi player was human, he could've seen that stun coming, juked it, and then escaped by slowing/stunning Broodmother. Juggernaut could still have denied the tower since your only disable was on cooldown.

Anyways, guide deserves a 10/10

techies suicide isnt an ulti Vaenra D:

Good guide, but imo lvl skills first, even if you cant deal the high mana cost for harassing, you get max damage sooner so you can kill easier a little later. if that makes sense.. hard to explain.

its like when i use to go naga. Lvl ensnare and stats, as images die to easy and crits arent high enuff lower levels, but then you get to lvl 8-9 and your ready to kill but images is only lvl 2 etc, so by getting stats early it delays future kills.

you don't need to mention the numbers at your comments at the skill. example is in Light Strike Array, you said

"200 Aoe damage skill, stun for 1.6 seconds...fast cooldown (10 seconds)..."

the 1.6 seconds stun and 10 seconds cooldown is already mentioned at the description.

why put acronym's meanings? that adds a lot of rows. referring the DotAtionary would have been enough.

is there any way that you can show lina's statistics using small space? you have this picture of lina at level 1, 25 and with full item. then you still typed what is her str, agi, int and damage. i mean, we can already see that in the pictures.

check your grammar:
"Some times this means you need to sacrifice yourself... Yes yours is important too but there is more important..."

you should have said,
"Sometimes you need to sacrifice... Yes yours is important too but their is more important..."

i saw a lot of unnecessary html codes after each images, like "" can you remove that, or is it just me?

well, you can remove all the heroes and items that counters spellcasters, regarding spell resistance, silence, mana drain... coz i already have a thread that discuss it. you can link that and remove a large portion on your long guide.

another thing that makes your guide long is because of advantages/disadvantages of lanes and creeps blocking. i think those are general ideas and unnecessary to lina, but of course it's good to know. if you want to cut your guide short, you can remove some sentences that are related to lina's strategy. example: in mid lane, you said...

"Fairly easy to creep block, Shorter distance back to base..." you don't need this.

but when you said, "Easy access to Secret Shop and both rune areas" that's ok, coz you've said that her items are mostly on secret shops.

those are some that i saw in your guide that you need to fix. well, if you want to. as for the strategy, i have a question about that dps-lina? although it may seems possible. is it effective? i mean, is she really capable to do that? is it safe? you have to convince not just me but every readers about that subject.

but when you said, "Easy access to Secret Shop and both rune areas" that's ok, coz you've said that her items are mostly on secret shops.

those are some that i saw in your guide that you need to fix. well, if you want to. as for the strategy, i have a question about that dps-lina? although it may seems possible. is it effective? i mean, is she really capable to do that? is it safe? you have to convince not just me but every readers about that subject.

your skill build seems fine and justified. if there are others that insisting you to max lina's nukes asap, you could at least make that as an alternative skill build. if you're gonna change your skill build, what will happen to your justification?

dagon? satanic? skadi? ...ok, can you afford to farm hard to get any of these items to lina? why dagon? all her nukes even her ultimate has short cooldowns.

does she really need that? satanic and skadi i think is for dps. well, you'll need to explain that. use her gold for better items. she mustn't overfarm, carry heroes would need that gold.

i'm finished with my zeus guide. our guides has a lot of similarities. i liked yours spamming videos on youtube. did you upload those? you're guide is great and it will be even more great. i'm sad about some readers putting a low rating, you deserve high. i hope your guide catch up to 10 star.

oops i double post. sorry mods. unintentional.

oh yeah, as for the poll... i vote for guinsso's scythe. the best item for lina, than aghanim's. it's a little cheaper and all benefits are so damn good. hex is also reliable: long casting range, short cooldown and a disable. hell yeah, go for guinsoo.

quoted from orochi:

c-c-c-c-combo breaker

for whom? really, that 500 character limit is short. make it 1000.

LSA is a long range AOE nuke+stun, there are very few heroes with such an ability. Lion, Lina, Leshrac, Nurubian, Tiny, and Levi. Nerub/Lion's are less potent versions of them. AOE stuns are no joke and should be used as top priority above all other nukes.

You say DS is more mana efficient yet with a stun both you and your ally can get 2 maybe 3 physical attacks in against your enemy as well.

Doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out how to click the AOE on the guy either. LSA > DS.

nice guide
LUV IT!!

if i must, i will give a very tougher read later, complete with grammar attacks and revolutions.

perfect ass guide - graphics, detailed info, common sense included - simply perfect ^^

"Hot (no game relevance but still important)"
--> totally agree with this lol - to be honest with you, i've never even bothered with picking the ugly heroes like slardar or pudge from their taverns - i don't really care how good they are or how good they can be, etc. lol... :P

you should put in necrolyte as a good ally. Though... i've been looking for a flaw... the only flaw i've found... is nothing... but...
isnt it like... crazy to ask for soul booster/Soul booster early on?
Specify when's early game, mid game and late game so it would not be so crazy.
... Laguna blade doesnt loose effectiveness... thats right... and...
For the poll, i vote for guinsoo. Since your build lacks regen items other than Guinsoo, i'd go for it over aghanims.

You`re all forgetting the true meaning of GUIDES is for newbs to read and understand and fructificate the knowledge learned
If this guide would`ve been for pro players, it would`ve have no meaning, or just the title" PLAY DOTA LIKE PROZ WITH LINA INVERSE"

specify also that Lina is mostly a support hero. She doesnt really need a lot of killing since she isnt really item dependent thanks to her spells.
Leaving the kills for the people who needs it most like void, mortred etc is better. Though, just to be sure... kill it yourself XD

sorry for the double post but..

10/10 nevertheless :D

wow ..nice guide..i learnt alot

I still say the same thing that I said when I voted for this guide.

Al I wanted to point out are very minor, and are just suggestions:

- If I read correctly you did not state that lina can have her 50% increase of attack speed permanently as the cooldown is the same as the duration(and probably costs too litle mana to notice, you mentioned this)

aaand

-You didn't really remind people to always check their mana pool before going for a kill.. And the fact that it must be calculated -

properly as usually it leaves you with little or no mana at all. So, it must be done only when the situation fits you and when you don't need to teleport all the way back(or walk) and walk to be set for another kill.

wow,cool.
it's really good.
wkwkwkwkwkwkwk

Well folechno i promised i would comment on your guide so here i am...

So first see my stupid unneccesary comments which hasnt really to do with Lina playing but its more important for your layout.

i don't think the Acronyms are that really necessary because i think everyone knows this already (and should know) but you still put it in because of new players and i understand that but its better if not. Still if a new player wants to know what it means he can just ask right? :)

is it friday already? time goes so fast... nice guide, long awaited. u said ksing is bad, but, did lina ks from crix and lagunad rexxar? how naughty. i also notice how well u play... against AIs. gj

Also the stats which you even put in your guide i think arent really necessary because they already stand above with her picture. I still like the damage reduction info but only your picture which you put in would have been enough.

Now into my really guide comments which i will give ssoon enough when i clearly read the guide. (Almost finished)

I can agree with the fact that you take 1 level of stats at lvl 5. And so you would be more able to spam them. But do you think 10 mana would make such a difference, yesyes i know the problem could appear but i think it is better to max both Dragon Slave and LSA as soon as possible. Thats just my opinion about a very little detail. But yeah your opinion and my opinion... It really CAN depend on situation. Sometimes more damage sometimes more hp.

Well letss see what else i can give you.

Totally agree with the fact that you don't max out Ultimate when you can. Stats are better for spamming. Besides like zeus she spams her spells although she attacks a little more then him.

Yes never creepblock when at Sentinel bottom or top like you said because youre creeps otherwise will end up at their tower and thats not what we want. I say it to a lot of players but they all shout all the time "NO CREEPBLOCK IS GOOD ALWAYS" I never react to that then they just face the facts when they

have to fight at their enemies tower. And i mean Sentinel bottom and Scourge top little mistake there.

Im surprised that you also forgot an important ally for Lina and this one is Chen with his Penitence. I don't know if you forgot him to add in or you also mean him when you were talking about Pugna but i think you should seriously say something about him also.

I would actually make Guinsoo first and then Aghanims Sceptre due to the disable you get from it and the increase manaregeneratio

its a pretty good guide, but I have to say...'Iaspd – increase attack speed' is technically wrong, increase attack speed is "ias".
and there are other nukes that can potentially deal more damage than laguna, such as anti mage's ultimate and rotunjere's ultimate, so to name a couple

n LoL stupid "n"
But where was i? O yes at Guinsoo, no i really think you should buy that item first and then pump up your ulti with Sceptre. So you actually have another escape mechanism when your LSA is on cd.

now i saw you said that Satanic is one of the most usefull orbs for lina. This i disagree with. In my opinion you would better get diffusal blade. You don(t even have to upgrade it into manta. The charges help you a lot and i think the feedback you get from it will help more for your

team also to burn their mana and the charges help you with chasing/escaping. But don't upgrade it into manta. If you say you lack then a little survival then go for Bloodstone like i also suggested it for Zeus. She is a hero who will get a lot of kills so maybe you should consider this item. The extra charges you will get from all your kills (if they are killsteals or not) will help a lot more then your lifesteal. Regeneration is still better when you get disabled.

I think i said the most now, i still have to watch the replay and i will. but not now. Now i wait for your comments and then i will vote for it. But you did very well. I am pleased to finally see a good Lina guide. Keep it up. So i did my spamming now you have the word^^

easy to use

10/10 the amount of effort and time you have put into this guide is remarkable i love it its great

holy fuk quail this is a guide not a bloody end of final year exam.. you don't need to point out every little thing..

and also did i mention its a guide?.. to guide newer players at dota. so dont say "you can leave this out coz i already have a page on this" etc. coz not every1 has that crap..







holy fuk

@ imanoobono

those are suggestions. i'm not insisting fole to do what i've said. besides, he said he's guide seems long and he's planning to reduce it or something. so what you see now may change soon.

nice one bro

The Spell Resistance guide of quale, really includes your Enemies/Counter section, maybe you can shorten it a little bit and add a link of that guide.
Besides that i cannot find any other links that you didnt mentioned already

good guide
id usually go orchid instead of guinsoo
but yours is ok too

9/10

iman, warning, language. Removing a letter does not help. Also your post is almost utterly worthless anyway.

Hmm... Poll: Sceptre. Its just so much more fun to be able to do that much damage, and its not as great if you get it after Guinsoo because it will take soooo long and they will be able to survive it due to farming up big items. Oh and Sceptre provides better HP.

Oh sorry, I gave a wrong name, The real name is:
Magic Spells weaknesses and counters
Sorry both quale and Flechno(:

Oh sorry, I gave a wrong name, The real name is:
Magic Spells weaknesses and counters
Sorry both quale and Flechno(:

gr8 guide!
make other ones plz!

10/10

imo great guide 10/10

YOu will need some Hp regen. Either make a persverance early or get a bottle.

other than that, great guide.

nice strategy friend with ur cool videos and pics

Nice Guide!!
Question: why do people get eye of skadi lina's fire???

haha... nic title... Click Me Baby!
hehex...
anyway nic guide... Juz like how i play Lina, but my stun keep on missing !! (sometimes)....
And.... Its quite funny seeing ur screenshots... Fightning AI plus easy ehh.....

10/10

@auksin what matters is that the screen shot shows how to place LSA

@dotachampion21 that build would work, although I'd probably add Orchid rather than MKB since it has silence and damage amplify, it also add almost as much damage (60 compared to 75) and just as much as, but if you wanted to go MKB you could

@AsianSensation I'll be adding in the bloodstone build in my update, and I'll be switching those screenshots because apparantly me playing against AI is horribly noob and can't be done

under any circumstances and automatically qualifies my guide for a 1

@imanoobono yeah, I'll be changing the skill build slightly for the update

@quale ty for the constructive criticism, I'll be sure to correct all that stuff, and I am going to link your magic resistance guide but didn't want to edit it before it got published in fear it wouldn't get published (yet again), and curses, word only checks spelling, not that kind of grammar :( and yes I made those vids and uploaded them to Youtube

@Pinky LOL, fail, and I'm still waiting on that 10K character limit (and Quale's waiting on his 1k limit)

@rain9441 yes, if you land the stun then it might end up being more damage than a DS, but if you are playing against pro players, they will see the animation and have plenty of time to evade the stun, so you'd be wasting your mana and not be doing any damage, don't comment until after the update since it will be addressing most of your comments

@ic4three778 k, I'll add that info

@DarkLord_sr yes, but people don't read/think on the internet, not much we can do short of adding a giant disclaimer at the beginning

@ic4three778 double posting means you are helping this guide out, check out Quale and Greater Bash's posting sprees

@Amplirage why don't your comments have the purple ST color? and I'll add that stuff

@LocoRoco yes, and that series was from the Chill Corpo replay so I guess even pro Lina players like to ks (although they know that what matters is that the hero

dies rather than who gets the kill)

@Greater Bash ty for the constructive criticism, will be fixing lots during my update, and hopefully you can watch the rpelay since it is 1.21b, and yes I'm getting a 1.22 replay

@Wispersilent anything really constructive? yes those nukes can be more powerful but they depend on the situation where as LB deals the same damage each time

@imanoobono he comments like that since I asked him to (and I did the same to his Nevermore guide), the more he points out,

u dun thank ur frends on ds? Lik people on clan zomp. :(. Nvm let me comment. Well i liked it. I lik how the discription on the aoe skillz. Dun let them anoyin people diss ur guild. Its very detailed. U even added the programs used. Dude i never though or even would bother with that. I give bonus. Nice job. XD.

the better it makes my guide, so please comment, and if you check out the links they link to stuff here on DS or on DA, stuff that people have easy access to

@Atakanoguz that's being added in the update

@blackchaos3x it's personal preference, Orchid seems more like a DPS Lina while the one I cover here is more a caster, and an Orchid can make the combo mnore powerful due to the amplify damage but it adds even more hotkeys to the combo, but yes, I'll say some more about Orchid

@nicholasni I am, Troll then Krobeles, although the Troll won't have very many (if any) screenshots since his abilities are straight forward

@sfsy1 ty, although I'm not that big a fan of the bottle, if you can use it to the max it works really well and allows you to gank a lot

@busrange well, getting the cold attack has nothing to do with Lina being fire, the stats are helpful and the slow is always useful, but mainly the stats

@earth stony yeah, the title is pure genius, and I'll be changing

@ folechno

Np mate i hope you do the same with my guide :)

In case you don't know i will be able to play with you tonight if you are free in Clan ZOMP or something like that. I made an account on USWest so maybe if you have the time we and some other mates could play some games. And yes i know this actually doesnt belong here my discussion i am doing right now but i don't know exactly if you are seeing the thread about Clan ZOMP today so i just posted it here so you would know. :)

some screenshots since people don't like seeing AI (even though the point is to show how to aim LSA, not that I can beat AI), and just practice, getting the timing down, it is kinda hard to aim and that's why I added in the info about how to do it

@nwa4life remember that I made this guide like 2 months, before ZOMP was made, and yeah, I'm defending my build, but I'll probably change it some

@Greater Bash yep, saw it, will be on, hopefully the timing works out with you being in Belgium and all

@ folechno

If everything goes well ill be there. But probably that should be no problem so cu tonight.

Nice dude.
But i prefer nulls on Lina.For extra mana.
I know she will be very soft but that's how I play here.Gj again 10/10

thanks a lot

man playing versus AIs to make a guide sux ....

I thought the strongest ulti in dota is doombringer's doom ulti ?

good guide anyways , make more :D

nice guide :)

covers nearly everything blahblahblah, i still see the 2 videos that are randomly placed for some reason but i think it is just me or are supposed to be there but w/e lol

i vote for aghanim's unless you go against a team where you absolutely need some mass disables.

9.7/10=10/10

O i almost forgot i didnt said my rating... a big fat 10/10 :)

fole, i'm not asking you to just link my "magic weaknesses..." thread. you could make a short summary of heroes and items that is a threat to lina. after the summary then link the thread.

well, i just don't want readers says- you don't even attempt to say anything about threats to lina, or something like that.

i already rated your guide coz your guide is already great. you'll update it anyway and it's expected that this guide will continuously improve.

10/10

swt

very nice guide. I like the way you showed all the AOEs and stuff. I would disagree when you said ult is most powerful nuke in the game. Id say techies suicide would be but im sure in further comments I'll be proved wrong.
When i was reading the comments i noticed alot of people write A LOT of text. like quail and greaterbash-> wish i could write so much :)

It's a nice guide with lots of pretty pictures :)

I'm kinda puzzled why you'd get extra levels of LSA, stats at level 4 is nice but why not continue it further solving your survival and hp problems. Also LSA is much more useful at level 1 than dragon slave to avoid/participate in level 1 ganks.

Have you considered orchid as a core item? It'd give you nice dps potential, a silence, and the amplify damage in conjunction with LB gives you similar damage to that of Aghanyms

Meh 10/10

Actually exit, previous comments... I'll just let you figure this one out since I know you're that smart.

I still think you need to find some more Lina-specific strategy to put in this, as its just a general dota guide atm (+skill/item build).

Example, one key aspect of laning with lina is to have the ability (mana) to unload all 3 nukes in succession. This forces the enemy to play extremely defensive because at any time you can whip out 900 dmg (at lvl 7) with a stun. This also relates to 'when not to use laguna'. Theres an art in not ulting, because it gives you more dominance.

Following up on the last post:

If I were to be in the situation to gank lina, and lina had full mana. I'd be very hesitant, especially if its a tower dive, because I know she can probably kill me very quickly. But if i glance at that Lina and she has only 200 mana, I know she is probably an easy kill. Keeping your mana levels tip-top on lina is mandatory.

You should also have "Why not to LSA+Slave creep waves for money", as players can go below triple-nuke mana requirements, which is bad.

Following up more:

And regarding her ult. She has 3 nukes, so if we are level 9 we have 560 dmg and a 2 second stun. In most ganks you outnumber the enemy and use collective nukes to take them down, so laguna isn't really required. If your team is going to get the kill (and you can pretty much know this before you start the gank), you can save your mana AND your long cooldown ult by not ulting and simply stunning+salve. This lets you keep that high mana pool deters people from ganking you.

Saving the ult can either save you or net you a kill in alot of cases. Your screenshot shows you (Lina) killing a target with laguna with the assist of 2 other stunning allies. Sand King is already a huge synergy with Lina (double AOE stun, SK initiates guarantees LSA lands). BM has a retarded 3 second stun/nuke ult (much lower cooldown/manacost). In reality you only needed a burrowstrike, LSA, slave, and wild axes (thats 1k+ dmg), + 4 seconds of autoattacks, no need for laguna or bm's roar.

... its my first time doing this so... thanks xD

featured guide of the month has been taken by folechno... or so i predict

I'm sorry I lost my thought on your screenshots, it was you and BM vs crix. But in any case, the aspect behind my last comment still holds true. Lina is a notorious KS'er with laguna blade in pubs, and has high frequency of being just completely unneeded overkill.

@rain9441

You forget magic reduction.

Dragon Slave = 280(.75) = 210
Light Strike Array = 280(.75) = 210
Burrowstrike = 280(.75) = 210
Wild Axes = 2*180(.75) = 270

For a total of 900 damage.

Oh too bad it's not 1k+ damage. Also, that's not factoring if the enemy has Spell Shield (Magina) or a Hood of Defiance (extra 30% magic reduction)

The most damage you can deal at level 7 is 622.5 damage

230(.75) = 172.5
150(.75) = 112.5
450(.75) = 337.5

Every hero has a base of 25% magic reduction.

And even without the default magic resistance, the most Lina could whip out at level 7 is 830 damage. So, do your homework before you make yourself look foolish.

At level 9, the most Lina can do is 420 damage without Laguna Blade and 757.5 with Laguna Blade.

9.5/10 nice guide

@ quale, your comment from 61-70 waaa.. yeah i know your guide.. you know what i mean,that's why because you've become the featured guide of july..hehe..:p

i think you comment too much about folechno,:p and i think you don't need to specify each and every..whatever.. :P
well..well..well.. no comment,
btw, see ya soon your zues guide.

Sorry I didnt specify my units, next time i'll be sure to say "1k+ damage before magic resistance is factored" And any time I talk about an item, its +60 damage before armor is factored. Do I really have to specify that the numbers dont account for magic resistance?

Nice Strategy dude.

@rain9441

If you want to be accurate, yes.

excelente guide good work!

@fol: Probably cos I don't mod these sections. Since I organize some other things too(competitions) and all, it's only fair that I don't mod these sections. You know the saying, you win some you lose some..

And this copyright stuff is really becoming a trend now..and I like it xD

Very, very good guide. I was planning to make a Lina guide until I heard that you were making one. This is the exact way that I play Lina.

Did you know/mention that DS has a 2400 damage cap? This means that if it hits more than 8 enemies they'll get less than 280 damage.

Definitely include the Bloodstone build. Get Bloodstone, disassemble for Scepter, disassemble Perseverance for Guinsoo.

As for Guinsoo vs. Scepter, I'd go Scepter. 1250 damage is irresistible, and it provides more HP.

I'll start off with criticism.heh her attack animation's a pro? haha. It may look cool, but it awfully sucks and shouldn't be completely relied on for last hitting. satanic with your original build won't go well. 50% iaspd won't be able to support it. I'm gonna have to disagree with it being the most powerful ultimate though. It has only 1 shot, which is countered by magic immunity and resistance. So don't forget to mention that 950 dmg isnt really 950 dmg. Screenies are of AI and you ksing lol.

Try and show screenies on how to actually cast light strike array on moving enemies. Note that the enemy's ms can change the location of the stun randomly. Now that juggernaut didn't seem to be very bright either with 600 hp. If he had enough mana for a combo, you'd die with only 2 creeps there to block his omnislash. 2 skills makes him invulnerable to your spells. And lina without her spells early makes her useless

Also note that lina is often the target of ganks, and she cannot afford to push a lane on her own. Her stun may be aoe, but 1.6 seconds isn't enough for her to escape with 340 ms, (presuming she already has boots) Therefore, her stun shouldnt be relied on as an escape skill. Which is why i'm surprised you didn't include dagger into your item list

I actually go for aghanims 1st, considering the damage which is crucial for lina. You can't back off from omniknight sadly, there is no way you can kill him unless he's severely under levelled. Anyway, I can't really criticise anymore.
You have great screenshots, some may be of ai, but I don't care. It gets the point across. Good of you to mention that lina's ulti shouldn't just be used because the enemy has low hp. You don't maximise the effect of laguna when the enemy has 200hp, for example

Good on you on teaching us noobs how to use dragon slave. Though light strike array needs more assistance... Yes, bracers for early hp... Standard... erm... Good stat build and explanation. Good item build, and finally, the one thing that people don't talk about on lina. The option of her being dps. In case people don't realise, she's useless late game with spells

AMFG grammar error O.o
"their max and cause people fear you" in the introduction

@ rllian

Dude the AI screenies are mostly just to show how the spell works, you and some other people should really understand that.
If you really look good at lina vs jugger pictures you would see after LSA and Laguna Blade he still is stunned. So if you stun him first then you probably will get the kill. This is mostly for showing how to to your combo spells.
Every hero needs to farm and go on a lane sometimes on their own, so if you get Guinsoo for hex you shouldnt be that afraid for

gangs

Best counter -> Map awareness
Just know when to farm and he knows i can tell you that.

And actually he shows screenshots about moving heroes getting hit by LSA. Its like you want a screenshot for every different hero with different ms to learn how to cast LSA. Just be smart.

And again i have to dissagree with you about lina in lategame. Her spells realy help killing if you had a good early and mid game (presuming you don't die whole time). If you don't give them oppurtunity to

farm then what happens, they will also not have good items making your spells still good at lategame.Or you could just gang them a lot. Also you can use your spells for killing creepwaves so don't tell me the spells are useless.

O yes rllian almost forgot. I suggest read all the comments next time because if you did you would know that the screenies from lina,rexxar, sandking and sven arent from folechno playing.

@archie_randy nulls are an option, but they are more risky since they don't give as much hp, they would be for a more aggressive, Lina

@Shorter the screenshots show what they are supposed to, if you want to see me play against real people, the Clan ZOMP Replay thread has plenty of games for you to choose from

@TheTimelessOne I mean the singe targeted, non-suicidal Ulti that deals all the damage at once (but that's kinda long so I shortened it a bit), and a Troll guide and the a Krobelus guide

guide are coming so watch out for those

@dohyun99 nothing I can do about those extra vids, you are the only one seeing them

"fole, i'm not asking you to just link my "magic weaknesses..." thread."
@Quale oh, so you're demanding that I link it, you should know that I don't back down form threats

@Exit-Light I ask people to comment on anything and everything, I am known for my PPPPosting Sprees so they are just returning the favor and making my guide better

@burnside yeah, but Orchid doesn't

give you the same kind of survival that 500 hp does

@rain9441 I asked you to comment but I'm glad that you did, looking forward to your comments after the update, if there is still stuff you would like to debate, I'm all for it

and for the ss, it was Lina and SK against BM and Sven

@ic4three778 well that's what I'm hoping

@Rt I asked him to comment like that it it makes my guide better

@Amplirage yeah I guess, now if only a certain competition organizer would deliver on two certain prizes

and Drew being afk isn't a good enough excuse since Orochi has filled in in his absence (and I'm sure you could get a hacker to add them if you still don't know the source code)

@rambol thanks for the info and the ideas, have been added to the guide

@rllian note that I say cool attack animation as a pro and then have slow attack animation as a con, I know it's not very good (unless you compare it to Rylai), yeah Satanic isn't too good but what other orbs are useful to her? the "ks" screenies

are from the Chill vs Corpo replay, I don't intentionally ks, as for the ss with AI, they show what they are supposed to show (imo)[just saw your later comment, can ignore this], I'm not a fan of dagger since she should be doing the killing and not the running but I can see what you're saying, I wouldn't say she's useless but her spells start to loose the effectiveness, hence her role swap to support with her aoe stun and guinsoo (and tha other damage is always good too)

@krillian ty

@Greater Bash hey, that's my job, and I need the gold, and yeah, you're right for all the stuff you said (except rllian recognizes that the ss are to show stuff, reread his post)

So after this comment the guide will be coming down for it's revisions and should be back up very soon, depending on when the mods are online

@Bleeper Reaper sorry, I have failed, I can find nothing else to comment on to extend my PPPPosting Spree

And the ss are not being updated during this update, but will be addressed later when I find a really good replay (and the AI ss will be taken out, not that it matters that it's AI)

@ fole
i see those extra vids too =P
nice guide (legal spam lol)
maybe you should mention Lucy.
a 12 second silence with dps is nothing to laugh at. also 500 damage LVL death is killer to lina since she doesn't have much hp. if you're not careful against him, people will feed. and they will go "omg folechno why didn't you mention doom in your guide dota sucks i'm going to go cry in my room now"
jk =P
lol
other than those, can't think of much
gj

And the poll currently stands at:
Scepter 6
Guinsoo 3
It depends 1

I am seriously considering changing the build to the bloodstone build under the alternate builds since it is very similar but has greater potential in early and mid game

Re-approved.

@Poll:

Bloodstone rush, to be disassembled to form Scepter, to be disassembled to form Guinsoo.

And I'm trying to work on the formatting, but I don't think I can take the spaces out with anything short of retyping everything :(

Will fix that during the next update though.

lotta info O_O 10/10

@Greater Bash: lol that's funny. Because you didnt read my comments either. And how was I supposed to know folechno wasn't playing in the screenies...?

@folechno:
Yea, I'll correct myself, lina isn't useless. but her skills lose effectivity. Severely, sad to say. I mean, what are you gonna do after you don't kill an enemy even after you used your full combo? Your skills are awaiting cd. and all you have is this incredibly slow attack animation. How would you fair against ursa?

did u fight with computer?
why don't u fight with friends?

updated already.

hmm, you didn't include my thread in LINKS. you also misspelled Moon_Raven's name.

i still see a lot of unnecessary spaces/rows that makes your guide long.

nice additions. i learned new things on your update. will check more and give suggestions later.

@rllian and folechno

Woops my bad i didnt actually saw post 156 (guess i must have overlooked it) so i haven't read what you sad in there, sorry.

This update requires an update. Please send word to admins that they need a re-vote feature

Nice additions, now you have alot of good info for how to play lina effectively.

Just a 'pro' addition here but worth noting for anyone who cares.

IF* (this is where its not really a lina strat) the enemy team has a hero that is weak to euls (meaning euls cancels their ult etc), than getting euls on Lina is a priority. She fits it well. Mana regen + Mana + escape mechanism + disable.

So in a team game this applies when you are facing heroes like Sven (does euls cancel gs now i forget), broodmother, viper, traxex, etc. Any hero who relies on their slow or specific buff that eul's removes. The fact that euls doesn't run out of charges justifies its existance/cost IMO. I would skip guinsuu if you do get euls, and go for something else.

Euls also gives +20 ms, which Lina loves (easier to kite while waiting for cooldown on nukes). And its a good escape mechanism.

I give it an 8/10 now (which is way above my previous one) for a couple of reasons. I don't agree with slave over LSA early, stuns own too much. I think the layout and organization of the information could be better. You can find some general information of a certain type split into 2 or more categories.

@rain9441: This is a guide for noobs. Note that slave can harrass enemies as well as kill creeps at a far more easier rate than as compared to LSA which has a small aoe and not to mention that it's hard to cast. The problem with eul's is that you can't attack the enemy while their in a cyclone while guinsoo gives a slow+silence.

....great guide. very informative.
what can i say? well made.
guidemaker speaks the truth
10/10

@rllian yeah, her skills loose effectiveness in late game, which is why she turns into a support hero who disables while her team's dps heroes rape everyone

@irson please read before you comment, I have said that the ss show what they are supposed to, I do play against people, go check out the Clan ZOMP replay thread

@quale sorry, I'll fix those, curses the spell check from Firefox doesn't work in the text boxes :(

as for the spaces, that's because there is no strip formatting function, and

the paragraph format automatically sticks those small spaces in (which then get even bigger when the guide is published), the only I have found to get around that it to type stuff in manually, which I just might do when I revamp the item build to the bloodstone build

@rain9441 so where you one of the 2? I think the mods can reset your vote to allow you to vote again, yeah Eul's is good since it does remove buffs like GS and IH, as for Viper and Traxex, how does Eul's affect them? or is it just

for escaping from their slow? as for LSA vs DS, if you can use the LSA go ahead (I think I added a paragraph about that), for noobs, I still recommend harasssing with DS since it's easier to aim and harder to dodge, for pros using the stun is much smarter and does allow for those extra attacks resulting in more damage, but guides are generally made for noobs, and what info is repeated? (so I can take it out)

@rllian yes and yes

crap, just realized I forgot to add Clock as an bad enemy, his ministuns mess up you slow animation (even if you animation cancel) and disrupting her spells leaves her defenseless for 15 sec, plenty of time for clock to kill her

i don't get special mention for talking recommending lucy as a bad enemy?
=(

@migrees sorry, I didn't see your comment before I edited it (I thought I was the last post), will add you during the next update

Besides other arguments, DS has a much larger AOE than LSA; and if you're getting it for the stun... the stun is the same at all levels of LSA.
As said, DS is overall a lot easier to work with, which is why it is maxed first.

9/10. nice to see a lina guide. : )

love the update, i went in with tinker the other day on 200 life with the logic, this is an easy kill.
i fell 3 mana short and died.

in short READ THE MANA MANAGEMENT SECTION

very useful.

shame lina becomes somewhat useless late game.
unless you have really fast fingers and dagon and refresher and ags and some lots and lots of mana ^_^

@fole:

I'm curious, why am i mentioned under your credits? I didn't do anything. I'm trying to do my pa guide, but the system's lagging for some reason.

hehehe easy-type ai LOL even though you were fighting with some easy ai in some scenes, the guide is great ^_^

nice i played here and owned everything in early mid ... later i supported team with stun spamming and cller creep pushes Very Happy Very Happy very NICE !

Solid Strat. And if you go Bloodstone first and get a bunch of kills on it then you should mention that you should not disasemble it, rather just get another soul booster for you Aghemims.

i like this guide you worked really hard i see so i give it 15/10

I think a bottle and a blink dagger should be given in the core build. Guinsoo before Anaghims IMHO, maybe a pointbooster before the Guinsoo though. 7/10

great guide, very detailed, easy to understand(unlike mine) and almost perfect

There's just 1 itsy bitsy wrong fact you put about line that you are completely wrong about and rain is completely right about

LINA IS NOT A POWERHOUSE. ive seen like 50 games in ihcs and pride, lina is top in feeder list

10/10

@rain +folcheno

Eules does NOT purge what are we on about here? Telport scrolls are also much better counters to slowers.

On that note i've been reading rain's comments and i can't quite figure out why the skill build got changed.

rains argument was....
"let's sacrifice all my lane control so that i can kill new players with a triple nuke every..... 20 minutes when my mana regenerates!!!"

I still prefer stats after level 1 LSA. wayyyy better lane for control and you don't lose much in ganks

very good guide^^
but i think you need a bottle or arcane ring to regen your mana early-mid
if not you have to run back to base everytime you use your combo:P
no offense but writing that she is hot is a bit sad:P

Why isn't my name "in lights"?

@LSA proponents
If that's how you play, do it your way. Don't regret it when your lvl 4 LSA misses a smart opponent and only your lvl 2 DS hits him. Strategies are for noobs, maxing out a hard-to-use skill is definitely not noob material.

woohoo cool. i think it's the farthest detail i've ever seen/have any knowledge about Lina.

Lawl u Ks

Raynor obviously can't tell whats going on.

Lawl Raynor can't read.

"nothing calls good game like a combo that can do 5300 damage"

teehee ^_^

@Ghost LOL

@rllian you mentioned dagger

@Unkn0wn wow please read, the ss show what they are supposed to

@noobstyle666 glad you like it

@getatmedog I will

@bliD the build is being changed to bloodstone then disassemble for aghanims and guinsoo, bottle is useful early game and I will mention that, I have blink dagger in the optional items section, I myself am not a fan but if you can use it right then it's a good item

@Counter_Force[X] my life is complete now, thank you, and yeah that's

because people don't know how to use her right, any hero can be a powerhouse if used right, but Lina and other nukers lend themselves to noobs since they are ranged and can nuke people, but yes people feed with Lina, so they should read my guide :)

@burnside euls does not have purge, but by cycloning a hero you can remove some positive buffs from the enemy such as GS and IH, the skill build was changed since the 1 lvl of stats wouldn't really do too much, so getting more nuking power could

allow Lina to kill even earlier, getting LSA at lvl 1 is better than DS since LSA has a stun so if the enemy tries to FB gank you you can use the stun and a tower to save yourself

@Anjo1992 will be adding regen in the form of Perseverance (to be made into a bloodstone) but I will also mention Bottle

@rambol the same reason I don't mention Quale's magic guide in the links section, I forgot, I will definitely add you during the update

@Raynor yeah for reading!!!

@moogle-taxi yeah, and that's

only counting Lina's nukes, none of Vol'jin abilities or any physical attacks, great combo, can pwn tanks (as you can see)

:( my guide is being overshadowed by Amp's new kael guide, it's good but I challenge you to read it all (I did, it took 1.5hrs for me to read and comment on it [~2 pages of comments btw])

and my guide will hopefully be updated this weekend with the bloodstone --> aghanims guinsoo build and it will have a 1.22 replay for those who are interested

even thought this comment is short...

this has helped me a lot and i OWNED

thnx for being awesome folencho

and btw u should mention in ur guide that (it has happened to me) not to be afraid to use ur ulti,
coz sometimes i'm not sure if it'd kill, i just dont use it and i let a kill get away

@folechno
No, it's there, but it isn't "in lights."

Never mind.

my preferred slayer build:

Bracers - to solve early low hp problem

RoB - more chances to spam dragon slave

aghanims - much needed hp and mana pool increse and the bonus dmg to laguna blade

lothars edge - surprised? I'll make it interesting. activate lothars edge when you see a vulnerable enemy hero that you wanna pwn then anticipate where he's going then activate light strike array while stunned use your laguna blade, surely by now he's dead or in very very low hp, use dragon slave to finish

him off.

shivas guard - activate this right after the laguna blade combo above, just incase he's got lots of ms

guinsoo - hex and other great bonuses. need i say more?

linkens sphere - if money allots get this, stat increase and ability to disable targeted spells is what you need to survive all throughout the game

BoT - makes you look like a burning road runner, plus the fact that you can teleport anywhre you like is a must to get.

D. rapier - your nukes + normal attack = pure pwnage! peace

him off.

shivas guard - activate this right after the laguna blade combo above, just incase he's got lots of ms

guinsoo - hex and other great bonuses. need i say more?

linkens sphere - if money allots get this, stat increase and ability to disable targeted spells is what you need to survive all throughout the game

BoT - makes you look like a burning road runner, plus the fact that you can teleport anywhre you like is a must to get.

D. rapier - your nukes + normal attack = pure pwnage! peace

@hemingxi it's not always easy to know if you should use LB or not, when in doubt I'd say yes because it has a short cooldown and she has other nukes if necessary

@rambol I'm sorry there are no 'Light' tags, I could make your name a pretty pink color though if you wanted

@gregory_29 RoB is okay, I'd rather get regen that is later used in an item (like Perseverance), Lothars could work, but I'd rather get a dagger, cheaper and you don't have to pay for unnecessary/useless stats

otherwise all those items are fine (although the DR should be on a dps hero, Lina doesn't attack very fast so it could be put to better use)

and now I will be updating my guide again (yeah for active guide makers)

it will have new screenshots, a new item build (the bloodstone build), hopefully no space breaks, I'll correct all the errors, give rambol a pink name

so without futher ado the guide is coming down

Re-Approved.

ok i love the guide now:D
it is absolutely a 10/10
since i random lina so many times i will use the same strategy as you do^^

I dota-wikied euls and it doesn't say anything about cancelling any types of buffs at all. however the duration of some buffs aren't paused while being cycloned so maybe that's what you mean?

the LSA at level 1 is a given but the LSA at level 4 still doesn't make sense. If you save mana for a kill you lose so much lane control it's not funny. It's much better just to spam Dragon Slave force them to play defensive and then deny their faces in. You have to get too close to use LSA

meh nice updat

I have a 16-3 Lina replay using this guide. Would you like it?

@burnside no, I'm pretty sure that a cyclone can remove some positive buffs, or at least it use to, mods? yes? no?

and if you spam Dragon Slave, you might have better lane control, but you probably won't get as many kills early game, which is something that Lina can do, especially with an ally, playing defensive is always good but Lina doesn't need to farm as much as other heroes, and when she does it's off of heroes

@Shimrra_3 sure

This second update will probably be one of the last. I am

more or less satisfied with this guide as is. I will be checking the comment section to give feedback, answer question, tell you to read, etc.

If you find any problems/have recommendations, please post them, it can only make the guide better.

Hmm. I can't seem to post replays properly. Getting drew to fix that as soon as he returns (a week or two left I believe) because it also interferes with my Leoric guide (there, I said it, resist the temptation to bombard me with off-topic questions). Try and hold out until then please.

@Shimrra_3 yeah, that problem has been here for about a month, the Clan ZOMP thread is filled up with all Rapdishare links, so as long as you get it to me, I can upload it myself, I just need the replay

great updates. your guide looks nicer. yes, bloodstone is a good first core item. i used that item build for her yesterday and gg. too bad my bloodstone reached 5 charges, so i decided not to disassemble it. didn't reached guinsoo nor aghanim's though.

I'm pretty certain that cyclone never removed any buffs.

I think we're forgetting that when your opponents are heavily damaged and forced to play defensively it means that they (a) cant' farm and (b) can't deny without letting you kill them. This is effectively what killing your opponents does except about 10 times more effective. Not only this but taking stats hardly hampers your killing ability, the main use of LSA is from the stun which is 1.6 seconds at all levels. You only lose roughly

200 damage from your nuking arsenal but gain almost enough mana to pull off another Dragon Slave anyway. The superior range of Dragon slave means that you can beat other strong laners (such as orb walkers) by harssing until they're low hp and then playing offensively.

still a ncie update

there is one hero lilna has no chance agianst: Medusa^^

but nice guide ;)

there is one hero lilna has no chance agianst: Medusa^^

but nice guide ;)

Nice screenies BTW. Distorting the page though.

perfect game i think if you play like this . in picture (LB for Kill) i see mirana telling Gondar what tracking does if you use it ZOMG SHOOT THAT DUDE FOR NOT KNOWING HOW TO USE TRACK
any way nice tellng how it works ans such good for those that want to use lina constant of course

Well, this is just awesome strat, thx for it.

@burnside it might have changed when the charges were removed, and as for play style, to each his own, I don't think the stats will do too much, where as the additional 60 damage can, the harassing method is probably better if you are soloing and the combo is probable better if you have an ally so you can kill more heroes, I'd say that Lina probably isn't the best solo though, but to each his own, this is how I play, and it's not the only way

@fynner why Medusa?

@rambol I just fixed most, if

not all, is there still any distortion?

@Blasting Illusions yeah, that Gondar wasn't too good, we kept telling him to track Clinkz but he didn't