SUPER TECHIES!!

This will only work on pubs mate.

Would be pretty hard to pull off if opponents know what they're up against. You're assuming they would just walk into a pile of remotes. Suggests Necronomion 3, which has good synergy with a 6 second stun, as well as spots any sentries lying around. I also don't recommend Aghanims,since the Hp/Mana/INT boosts could be obtained from better sources. Guinsoo/Linkens is Already 300% regen. Nice screens,BTW.

Thanks, I might try that. I can't believe I haven't done that actually, it solves all Techies problems... Truesight for wards, more hp, attackers for the stunner, more int of course... and I can lure them places with the minions too. Cool.

Haha. Nice screenies. Seems that your guide focused on using suicide. Bother adding a warding map?

Weeeell, the Suicides are harder to counter if you know what you're doing. See, if you can Suicide someone, you can keep doing it once every two minutes, and they can't counter until they lvl up. If you nail someone with mines, they'll likely buy wards quickly if they're smart. Can't do things like that against suicide. And its more satisfying too

are your enemy's just your friends or battle net players and i cannot believe that you have kill them all 4....
you are really good in using techies...
nice guide... 10/10

@ _noob28_ my friends are generally on my team, I don't like disembowelling people I have respect for. On the other hand, if I do have to vs them as Techies, its much worse than usual

is remote missiles visible to your enemies? sorry noob question pinoy me wee

L O L what use would they be if they were visible :D thats why gems hurt so much

Until what level would you continue using Suicide to kill players? I mean, the higher your level, the longer the revive time, so it's not really a great idea to Suicide on higher levels, unless you badly need to deny exp, or you're dying. Nice guide BTW, love the pics.

Weeeeell, the thing is Techies can stop lvl'ing before ult lvl2 and still pwn (obviously more levels are better though), so its more a matter of how much you can hurt THEM. I mean, the Suicide is a guaranteed kill when used right, and you can keep using that until its too hard - THEN progress to mines. I mean, you should probably stop Suiciding once you've acquired the necessary items and levels to heavily mine them instead. I can still get Suicide doublekills at level 14, so, I doubt theres a reliable exampe anywhere.

will the killing streak if you suicide or not because no one killed you instead yourself

Killing yourself doesn't lose a spree, you also keep gold. AND they don't get exp from u dying. Its only if you GET KILLED, which is quite different. Hence me denying myself. Its not nice is it

brilliant

10/10 GJ

10/10 GJ

when u suicide do you get the xp for the units you killed or do you just get the gold

techies....ya.... good in defence, observer....n good in killing if they look down him... 1 of the best allies

enemy will tension since anywhere got mines, boom... and most important, their action n move is detected...unless they buy gem

i like d way u comment on suicide....but can comment more on remote boom, hehe?

hmm... i also don't recommend Aghanims, should buy EyeOfSkadi more early instead of buying Aghanims...since EyeOfSkadi also efficiently boosts ur hitpoint n mana....

hmm, nice guide..

Eul before obvilion staff. You get 6 cylones with it, that's the reason why.
(and it is better anyway, like you said.) You could also tell about pudge-boom-hook and venge-kaboom-swap. also, Priestress of the Moon can use that arrow to see the mines. There is a third person that i can imagine to see mines: Kardel. Assassinate gives truesight, and it you will have it after the shot too, as long as you don't move. Helpfull allies... add a weaver, the shades are nice. Omniknight is also a bad enemy, repel = no mine dmg taken.
You could also tell some mine "hot spots." Those are pretty obvious but still

Also, with many int heros (or weak heros in general), think about taking "keleen's dagger of suicide" too

@ slayerofbill: You only get the gold, since you can't get exp when you're dead.

hmm. your enemy's are noobs i think... you have killed them several times and still doesnt learn or even one of them will carry Gem...
my question: what level are you and your enemys before the game was finish?

@ _noob28_ the interesting thing is that techies loses a lot of ground lvl-wise while he mines everywhere, but because you walloped them so hard early-game, your allies kick their butts so much that you manage to keep up. I've played plenty of games without reaching even lvl16, like I said it doesn't really affect your game too much.
Rushing EoS I don't know for sure, most people do that for the slow, which is completely beside the point for Techies. Necro 3 is a good idea, I can see how it'd work, except I'd need to practice with it a lot, and it could distract me from my mines too.
Thanks for the good comments guys

lol, this is mainly for braggin purposes the screenshots that is. u could just plant mines in each lane if u wanted to. btw, if ur about to dye, people would have enough common sense to stun u or flee while they can or cast a high damage spell. lol ur very suicide dependant

Of course I am. Suicide is my best friend

good with eul's then place landmine and then plant remotemines

Excellent guide! Playing as techies is really fun. As you said, the idea is to wear down your enemies as much as you can, allowing your teammates to do the rest. On a side note, I played against that Mudvayne guy once, in a 4vs4 game... one of my partners left when he was level 7, and we still won :P

I just put 1 in Suicide in mid game and goes for placeing mines in clever places:P. A Suiciding Techies can get stunned easily and the enemies retret or kill. They also get extremly low lvl couse they get no exp. And ofcourse cleaver opponents fill the map with wards or gets a gem to be safe.

ok but u couldnt farm any creep early game without using land mines i mean u have a really poor damage early and u will be just using suicide for killing heroes?!LAND MINES are very important and must be maxed first(thats my opinion)another advise:
try using arcane ring as a first item it works good

@ Bruno89 & fadi the thing is, my first major item is Guinsoo, so I can actually get some decent damage quite early, and lvl up and get Landmines at lvl10. Arcane Ring might work, its just not my style :)

i think ther are 3 techies. 1 under the barrel

Lol, you're right, its just not news to me. (If you didn't know, there ARE legs coming from that last barrel back there. How else do you think it follows them?)

Haahaay! It's not worth it, you are very suicide-dependant. What can you do for the team esp.during team battles? Run and Explode towards enemies? It's such a waste of time planting all that mines in one spot and later on be swept my players with gems or true sights. It's too nooby! Your guide doesn't unleash techies true potential. I give it a 1/10.

I'm a Techie player and my Techie is way better than yours. Atleast my team can depend on me during battles. Your Techie guide is a slap to us techie fanatics. Surely you can think of something way better other than suiciding and always waiting for resurrection.

Wow. Obviously someone wasn't paying attention to what happened to the last fool to flame that much. Especially incorrectly.

What? Enlighten me suicide boy!

I don't need to talk to you. I give people three chances, and you mighta used about six on the first comment. Don't make me complain to the admin. Or else.

@wallstreet Hey you really dissapointed me; I thought you had some awesome techies guides but I do a search and don't find one. I thought with your speech about how much this one sucked you might have one of your own, ah well, easier to critisize than make, eh? Please make a guide I would love to see you unleash the techies "true potential" or whatever crap you said. I am waiting...

Woah! This kitten has claws! No one even needs to argue with this asswipe, if he can't obey simple rules, I can be quite confident you can't have an intelligible debate about a guide with him.

Gigitty.

Oh lol. I spent five minutes figuring out what happened here - you guys removed his comments lol. Admin guys are so cool!

wouldnt u want a lothars just to sneak up from behind and plant bombs and some remotes next to the secret shop? btw, can u kill roshan at lvl 16 with this hero? he is a ranged hero, u could plant stunners so when he comes to kill u afta u attack him, he gets stunned and u plant more bombs in his path when he comes to chase u. btw... try playin that mode were everyone has the same hero. i lost the codes cos some knob hacked into my computer and destroyed all my files.

I've done that, same hero techies. (mode is sh). Its really retarded. And I got a first blood triple in that. Really really retarded. Lothars worked well in that, but not in regular pubs. Hell no. Its not rushable, they have too much hp by the time anyone could get Lothars.

about killing roshan i know that about 24-30 remote mines(atlvl3) could kill roshan in one hit
ive tried it once

you can only defeat newbie people who doesnt know how to play dota.... you can never do that to us....

Nice Guide .I think Lothar's will be quite useful for techies.With that u can finish off enemies when their hp is low with a stealthy sucide and also helps escaping a chasing hero.

@ charitharth55 the idea of Lothar Techies has always intrigued me, but the fact is I know it would be a) very hard and/or b) not worth it. By the time you get Lothar's Edge, they'll have a fair amount of hp and armor - they won't be suicidable any more. Also, getting Lothar means they'll have double the reasons to grab wards or a gem, which means you're doubly screwed. IF they could be killed by Lothar-Suicide, they'll be able to be killed WITHOUT the Lothar and you can get the Guinsoo first instead. Getting Lothar also severely puts you behind on your INT and mana items and you won't be able to mine effieciently for a while longer. Add that the Lothar-Suicide combo will become useless a few levels after you get it. Overall, Lothar isn't a great plan at all.

I liked your suicide tactics, but it would be great if you could talk more about where to place the mines and the best times to activate them

Well... you're right mostly, but I did say. Kind of. Ground Rule 1, if you know theres more of their guys incoming, don't blow up JUST THE ONE GUY. Wait until the rest come. I also have a replay of a perfect doublekill where the two guys (both fleeing) are spaced apart on EITHER SIDE OF THE MINES - I had to time it exactly. Depending on which lane you're in, putting stunners or single/multiple mines in the side alleys to watch for ganks is generally very effective. I've actually had a stunner and two separate mines in the bottom sentinel side alley, and one guy fled in there, got walloped by one mine, and ended up evenually walking into the other one and getting killed. Stunners in the right places are great too, such as in the centre of a (any) ramp - I've gotten kills with Techies REGULAR PUNY ATTACK after the enemy got stunner'd, most humiliating. As mentioned in the actual guide, MINE THE RUNES. Self-explanatory. OK, can I go now? Or do you want me to re-submit the guide lol. The thing with that is I've done that with a Hero Idea and its been six weeks. Staff you are annoying me. OK, hope all that helps you guys more

well nice guide!! can you do this? uhmm buy euls scepter of divinity then hurricane him and plant 2 or 3 bombs after the hero landed detonate is it awesome?? LoL!!! anyweiz good screen huh and good guide

Hmm, never done that. Besides, after cyclone you might yet one LANDMINE at best, no Remotes cause they take a while to cast. Maybe a Stasis Trap - THAT would be cool. Cyclone->Suicide is worth considering, but the split-second timing might let them get off a stun while its cooldown was charged in the cyclone. Not a nice thought. Oh, and you might end up Suiciding the ground around the cyclone, which obviously does no damage. Ummm, tricky idea.

....the skill guides sucks get land mines 1,3,5,7 thats how u kill people(put htem on the edges and stack em up)

since when is posting screenies of suiciding noobs who ask for it considered a guide?

ok you might catch an average player every once in awhile solely out of their stupidity, but decent players can only fall into that trap for so long before they learn to avoid them.

@dotamaster doing that isn't guaranteed and its hard to spam early, statis traps you need one.
@ 090ruin as if you have a better guide. Huh? Show me. Suiciding people who know exactly what to do STILL WORKS. I personally couldn't care less if you doubt my guide or my skills.

@090 ruin ur a noob... Maybe you don't know how techies KILL... He could kill even the BEST dota player ever... Just compare him to sandking w/ BKB, kelens, HoT and radiance... UNSTOPPABLE

Thanks Jak. Although surely everyone is about to bombard you with their OWN personal idea of 'the best hero'

shimmra when you were grey you got a triple kill but then it says that you killed your own teammates cause it said blue purp and and yellow has falled.... it this a fake screenshot?

what i meant was ... you killed yellow blue and purp but they were your teammates cause when your teammates die it shows you what level they was and the name and color. That only happens for you allies... So does that mean you killed your own teammates?(LOL)

Ah, lol. This is a subject of some controversy. I really wish it was otherwise, but in replays - which I have to use for the screenies - the replay doesn't show all the UNSTOPPABLE etc UNLESS ITS FROM THE HOST'S POINT OF VIEW. Its reeeeeeally annoying. Obviously, when I got the quadkill with Orange it didn't spam deaths because the host is on MY side and HE doesn't see them either. Incidentally, Mines can't damage your allies, but a good question anyway.

WOOT THIS ROCKS!!!

Of course it does, its meeeeee - lol thank you.

nice! I also put mines beside trees which cannot be seen even if your enemies has a gem.

Ah. What my bro did once - he doesn't play techies, he randomed - he stacked the mines DIRECTLY ON TOP of each other. Basically, he sat for 5 mins without moving his cursor. The thing was... he said they had a gem and MAPHACKS. So they saw the 'single mine' and dismissed it apparently. Which was a bad idea. I've never put mines next to trees, usually if they have a gem they kill EVERYTHING, they'll see it on the minimap or attack-move and kill it unintentionally. I dunno everything though.

I love techies XD they so annoyin I put 5 stars for this 1

hey man...U should get som pics on minimaps 4 places to put some Land Mines...like shops...boosters... u get it :P k ?

Hehehe nice guide and great strategy XD my items are as same as urs except i get power treads XD lol anywayz good techniques and nice triple killszz

Love It as i consider myself a pro techies player and great job i have the exact item build AND SKILL BUILD!! great job...do u play on the us west server cuz id like to play on your team my email is mantarqay23@hotmail.com plz email me telling me when we can play

Hmmm. The thing is I am Australian, I dunno if you are. If you ARE my username is Shimrra_3 on Lordaeron. But I thiiiiinnk this is an American site... Oh, I really don't like emails in general. If you ARE Australian, find me, otherwise stay outta my face - no I'm kidding

nicely done, loze ur just jealous but i like the ss's

nicely done, loze ur just jealous but i like the ss's

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

if its not too much trouble, can u send me a replay with u using techie? my email is www.megamanpro@gmail.com

Prepare to be spammed!!! I dunno, if I get around to it, maybe. I kind of distrust email in general right now. Hmmm, so many replays to choose from. Not sure if I can properly do it, haven't had to before. I'll see what I can do, I'll probably pick one with the most diversity of total ownage. Instead of the one with the quad - because there's better games from simple accumulation of doubles and such. And the guys in the quad were totally dead without my intervention anyways too Gimme a few days, I am a busy Techies.

you have a great guide, this is one of my favorite guide.

you have a great guide, this is one of my favorite guide.

Thank you. Similar guides are done by Steve-O, at this point he has two... but they have reeeeeally good screenies. Like, showing you exactly whats happening instead of just 'look what I can do!'. Makes mine look pretty sad except for how nasty I'm being. Anyway, check them out, he has a Jakiro guide and a Witch Doctor guide... both Five Stars... gimme five stars I want it!

*wince* megamanpro, the email couldn't send properly. Sorry. I bet its not even the file or anything, it won't reach u.

the longest stunner it rocks

I love em. When I get them early game I generally get one guy who says 'dumba$$, get landmines', one guy who says 'ahahaha nice stunner techie', and three or four who say 'F*** YOU TECHIES STUN!' or something like that. Landmines just aren't spammable, nor are they as useful as a 3-6 sec stun.

nice picures taken!!11

Gotta love screenies! Thanks.

thanks for the info, it was....interesting jejej,you should see some videos of the goblin in youtube, like "dota all stars bazooka movie", TINY is one o the better alliesof the goblin

I've looked at a bunch of those, they're good, bazooka I must've missed. Guys, search on youtube 'techies mistake' I think; he accidently suicides instead of mining and kills an invisible Bounty Hunter! Its brilliant, check it out.

how far does suicide affect?

Thats actually debatable. I really don't know for sure, but it does full damage to something like a 200 AOE around where he was. Then its reduced damage further out, same thing goes for Landmines and Remote Mines. The thing is with suicide, who to target when theres two of em. If they're both dumb enough to sit there, aim for the one that NEEDS the full blast and let the splash nuke the other one.

Thanks Shimraa also what the auto casting do in suicide?

I've been too scared to try that. Honestly, I don't know. I really should experiment in AI mode or something. The thing is autocasting that proably works like all other autocasts. Ie THAT activates on the first target. Such as a creep. Sooo, I wouldn't mess around with that yet. Hmm. The one thing I don't know about Techies... This is going to be discovered. AI mode here I come from the looks of it. Oh, final afterthought... I have done a triplekill suicide. I had to pick who to target out of four damaged enemies and I went for the tank, who died, and the blast took out two others, while a lesser tank escaped. The thing is, if I had aimed at one of the puny heroes, less would have died... and it was a good thing no-one nuked me. Thats why its important.

Nice pics and the part on how to kill them was really detailed. I just don't get the late game pics. Were all of them in one lane?

All the ones that died were, yes. Its actually rare for me to get kills in separate lanes simultaneously for multi kills, which is weird considering I mine loads of places not mentioning Suicide.

nice photos...

when I clicked on the Remote Mine, I saw a detonate option. If I clicked that will the mine blow off separately from all the other mines?

nice strat but i guess we play techies differently.
my build:
1.ss 2.lm 3.ss 4.lm 5.ss 6.rm 7.ss 8.lm 9.lm 10.st 11.rm 12.st 13.st 14.st 15. stat 16.rm 17-25.stat
the reason for this build is for pushing purposes. land mine can deal big damage against towers plus i need that extra damage against heroes early game so i can suicide early. but i'll try your build also. i don't see the point of getting aghanim's though, too expensive just to get extra life, might as well build HoT and for mana guinsoo and linken should cover that. most important item you need for suicide is dagger of escape... blink then boom or eul's then boom

I haven't used aghanims since about comment 2. I've gotten even better than this guide suggests, hard as that may seem (muwhahahaha) Blink Dagger seems like it'd be hard to execute and obviously it IS 2150, by the time you achieve that they're gonna have lotsa hp and armor. Its the same principle as with lothars. Not really great.

@ mance435 = hitting the detonate button on a single mine or group of mines does, in fact, only blow those. Thats how you can mine multiple lanes, AND use the remotes to kill creep waves. OR, even better, blow 2-3 mines to kill one fleeing hero and leave the other, oh, 7-10 there to kill the next unfortunate soul to cross them. I did that once, I had 7, I killed one guy with 2 when he fled, and killed another guy about a minute later with the other 6 when HE fled with half life. The trick is, you probably won't have lethal clusters in all lanes, but doing drawing a box over THEM ONLY to detonate will leave, for example, your scout mines (the ones in the side allies/river/runes/etc) alone so you keep them.

I am not a fantastic player (perma-n00b) however i have come across a great ally to the techies you didnt mention. i just play with some mates on BA pvpgn server and as you said late game suicide is not a fantastic ability, also someone mention that you dont do much in team battles. When combined with a stasis trap and the Doc's (witch doctor) maledict suicide does an absolutely HUGE amount of dam. ~1000 dam due to armour so maledict does an extra 400 dam a sec every 4 secs for 12 secs so that is an extra 1200 dam to usually one but up to three enemies over the blast itself. a great way to end a team fight quickly in your favor. Oh and please feel free to put forth improvements to this as we discovered the fun by accident and it isnt really a thought out strat.

oooh another fellow techies player. i liked the guide i personally only get the euls rather then a sheepstick because i dont use it for killing but for getting the hell outta there. And just another thing to consider a malestorm not a mjolinor but malestorm it helps with techies for pushes and it helps make short work of creeps for a easier chance to plant the mines. and just for the people who are having trouble with broodmother. the creeps spawn every i think 1 min or every 45 secs i couldnt time it just right but somewhere around there. when the creeps arent spwning plant mines and hide in the forest with a few status traps around you for the get away if you are caught if you do do this then the brood mother wont have any webs at home so she comes walking to buy some items and BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! she got owned.

@ shortstraw = I hadn't quite thought of that, obviously a very viable idea, except Suicide works better with more conventional stuns (ie Storm Bolt, Magic Missile) that target the one person and stun them LOTS. Doc wouldn't be so great unless it was a great situation (such as only one other target to bounce - four second stun on the hero), whereas single-target stuns are much better.
@ TheJuggernaut = I'd advise against Maelstrom or Mjollnir in general, they cost a lot when they aren't adding to Techies main skills very much. A Radiance works much better in that regard: running into the middle of the melee and ranged creeps with a Landmine does them just enough Immolation damage to have the mine kill them all instantly, plus it costs less and does more damage (which is more or less Techies base damage right there) and gives the evasion (debatable usefulness, I know). You're absolutely right with the Guinsoo opinion though - if you're close enough to Hex them, its clearly because you are running away. Broodmother is hell for Techies unless that Broodmother is as smart as a rock. Hehehe, last one I played against was... I melee'd her to death with my Radiance when she was LIFESTEALING ME and won 1v2 with TECHIES! Thats just stupid!!!! TECHIES DOESN'T DO THAT!!!! Ok I am calm. Lol thanks for commenting guys.

would dagon be good for techies because with quite a lot of mana and weak attack, he would need a good way of ATTACKING his enemies

Techies is too weak to get anywhere near enemies without suiciding them or simply getting killed pathetically. The only good use for a Dagon would be Zap-Suicide, which I have never seen. The last... hell, ALL of the Techies I've seen with Dagon reeeally sucked (less than 10 kills). OK, total noobs rather. Horrible overall. If someone who could play worth a damn managed it, I might revise my opinion.

the new bloodstone item owns wiht him cas you get exp even when you die

Seriously, The only pictures that are in this guide are ones of suicide. Like we really need to learn how to do that! And in any semi-organized game, wards/gems will screw techies over before he is level 6. Incredible how the guys in the games from the screenies cant run away from a techies. =>this guide is focused on pubs. Try to include something about pushing, techies is a fantastic pusher with lvl 3 remotes.

Seems to me like this guide is showing off how good one can be a suicide techies in a pub Just look at how much text there is, and the pictures that take up the bulk of the guide are all showing pictures of double/triple kills. gg we all know how good you are with suicide techies.

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Show respect. No further comment, you do not deserve one. Besides which what I would say would be censored.

This is a great guide, and the people that don't like the sucide tactic don't seem to understand that it should be used like every 2 to 3 minutes not everytime you see a hero with low hp.

Sorry for double post but, if soul booster is upgraded to the bloodstone, then sucide rocks because you then get the epx too.

Thats only been out a coupla days, I want to try it at some point. Theres a problem, along the same lines as Blink Dagger and Lothars - its just too expensive. Acquiring this puts you at a) fed, b) pooled, c)hacks, or d) (most likely) too far into the game to be able to suicide between their hp/armor/lvl and your new remote mine capabilities.

techies is easy to counter with gem, wards, blink dagger, illusions. i posted the full list and tactics for force suicide/minesweeper on techies page, im not a fan of techies denying me a kill by suiciding so i always stun them 1st. nonetheless it's a great strategy and btw i dont know how to take screenshots so could someone please tell me.

You need to get into your replays (which means you need to have replays) and take screen shots from there - the hotkey is Alt-PrintScreen, which will notify you that you took a shot. THEN you need to edit out the bits you don't want on Paint or something. THEN you need to make an account on photobucket.com, which allows you to put the shots in these Strategies properly by giving you a URL I think. If this doesn't work, query Steve-O on one of his guides, he helped me with this process a bit. Thank you for commenting.

wow...amazing guide and with screenies...u totaly own with techies so since they are one of my fav heroes congratz

wow...amazing guide and with screenies...u totaly own with techies so since they are one of my fav heroes congratz

LOL BABE COOL i got 5 kills in a row last time( changed a new speaker)

GAH! I am a GUY! Yoooooooouuuu baaassstaarrdd.... whadaya mean you changed a new speaker? You're starkiller too? What a headache, you confuse me so... Oh well. Thanks for commenting.

haha this makes me laugh ... think about it. ull set those mines they will atleast get cought offgaurd once and then its gem time or wards ur screwed

Not if I suicide their money to bits first. Come on, everyone says 'gem or wards' but I go through many, many games without seeing either.

shimrra....u r my idol onwards

Does Aganims Work on the latest map???
EG. 6.43b???

Aghanims works the same way it always does. Ie, it doesn't upgrade Techies ult. I've said already that I've stopped using it on Techies (see comment 92.).

u shud teach us on where to plant our landmines

very good guide thanks

personal suicide tactic that i adore: if you dont have enough mines yet to kill an enemy/enemies you can still utilize them to your advantage. wait until they pass the mines and suicide! usually it wont be enough to take 'em out but they will be left with too low hp to push so they run to base. as soon as they run to mines again, KABOOM! more gold for you and really pissed off enemies :)

Oh yeah. That works really really well. I shoulda mentioned that. Everyone else: what he said.

doesnt techies suicide and mines do spell dmg? so therefore the armor % wouldnt apply? idk correct me if im wrg

I'm really not sure, but I know the armor applies from experience - ie, DK is really hard to kill with most Techies skills as well as Agility heroes with high base armor and armor gain. I'd have to assume its spell damage.

Breakthrough! Refer to comments 85 & 86: Auto-Casting Suicide. I just did a test against AI's, what it does is activate Suicide once theres a target within melee range. WARNING, this DOES include creeps like I thought. What I also tested was BLINK DAGGER, which I admit I have yet to try in a public game EVER. Blink-Suicide works very very well with the Autocast: basically you Blink to them and explode INSTANTLY, being careful to A) have the autocast on and B) be close enough to Blink to them and not fall short of your mark. Proper execution of this techinique is very very powerful and efficient. However, as I have said in the guide (maybe) and in previous comments, purchasing a Blink Dagger means you fall behind on cash for your Guinsoo and the Blink-Suicide combo does fail to be useful very quickly. Great while it lasts, but it doesn't last very long. I hope this satisfies some queries.

WOW shimrra_3 the best techies guide id ever seen !!! good suicide pics !!!!
but can you create a second guide that is focused on planting mines.??

shimra_3 your guides are good!10/10 thumbs up for this strat i think you should put arcane ring....do you play gg-games?

Wow.. But those Skill will burn your mana right off 200/Mines but 1 mine is goind to do 80% of killing job

Try buyying some RAdience to harras , creep when u'r in low mana and this strategy ROCKS.... I TRYING TO LIKE HIM U KNOW....

SO

@ wishmater um wtf? euls before oblivion staff your reason is because you get 6 cylones with it? Uh you need oblivion staff to get euls.

Staff of Wizardry for Euls. Not Oblivion Staff. Oblivion AND Euls for GUINSOO. Thanks for comments guys. Except you. ^^

u a goblin pro right one more thing did they buy gem or wards
My enemies always do when im goblin

Well. If they ward a lane, you either have two more lanes OR they are wasting a lot of money. If they bring ALL of their team into the one lane, its a perfect setup to Suicide them and have your allies finish them off (assuming theres anything left). Pretty much the same thing as I've seen with Earthshaker - you push with five guys so they have to gank with five and ES just clobbers everything. If theres a gem, you do still have Suicide and a bunch of non-invisibility-reliant hero allies to gank with to remove the offending gem.

good guide. i suggest that you make necro 3 for the true sight, just to demolish sentry wards enemies have placed.
i enjoyed the pics! haha 9.7688 / 10 lol

Nooo! Give... meee.... ten.... lol. I tried Necro3, its not really great on Techies. Its good on Bane, not Techies. Techies needs to spam, needs mana regen more than other abilities. What BANE does is use a baffling combo of moves that benifits more from a huge mana pool than being able to spam. So... I dunno really. Not for me.

lol. 2 me necro is a perfet item for techies. when lvl 3 u can use it 2 spot wards, heroes, n the 2 little warlock spells r imba. Kill 1 of them (i forget hu) n wham he take u dwn 2 hell with it. Still, suicide techies aint good, if enemies r pro u will find urself in big, BIG trouble. hres a tip: Always plant land mines benhind enemy tower even if it will cost nearly half of ur life. u wanna noe y? try it den u noe.

the bomber the suicidal the genetical the homicidal and the craziest hero them all pissed wtf i hate when they suicide

due to my inability to be online beating you up currently shim i have unlazied myself to actually post on this site :) umm yeah i still hate your techies build and i still think it doesnt work but hey i dont play techies, you do...grr i wanna eat you with bane...come to think about it there is a bane guide you wanted me to look at isnt there.

man your so cool! you got beyond godlike with him and I thought that goblin techies isn't a good hero

best techies guide ever, but you didnt explain what to do with land mines...

@ The Dawn = I know landmines hit towers. But the thing is it doesn't ACTIVATE on towers. There have to be units there to set it off, and the tower is liable to kill the mine first anyway.
@ Ghost = Hiiiii. I shall deal with you later...
@ Somebody = Techies is pissy retarded weak unless you can use his abilities right. Which tranforms him into ultimate ownage. I've gotten streaks of more than 20 kills. Its got a bit of precision involved. I HAVE seen total noobs get bogus low scores though.

someone planted a ton of mines in front of roshan and before i could get ageis i was blown to pieces..

rofl awesome guide!!!

alright....
This is not meant to: be mean, a flame, derogatory, or insult this guide. Please do not treat this comment so.

Really now, I'm not saying you are not a good techies player, but munch on these:

1. Strangely, in this guide, nobody on the other team thinks of using a stun or disable on techies as he approaches for a suicide. A single stun/disable will cripple techies, and he will be dead within 3 seconds due to lack of hp.

2. Wards or a gem severely cripple techies. Even in pubs, after one mine death the enemy will probably purchase wards or a gem; You say that you suicide all the money out of them, but this is unlikely because wards cost >300 gold, while a gem is 750. Hardly a price to pay for preventing a quadkill. Not to mention, when facing ANY organized team, wards and gems will wreck techies before he acquires remote mines.

3. Techies is a fantasic pusher with level 3 remotes, nothing mentioned.

4. By late game, Suicide becomes nearly useless in terms of dealing damage. Also, suicide is reduced by armor.

5. Land mines own towers. Nothing mentioned.

Finally, all photos of this guide show the creator, Shimrra_3, acquiring double, triple, and quad kills by suicide and remote mines. But the screenies do not show where the mines are placed, how many mines should be placed, and how much hp (not just the color bar) or level of the victims. In terms of being informative, they aren't very helpful.
The feeling that one gets by reading this guide is that the creator, Shimrra_3, is showing off:
Quote:
"I am so good with Techies that I wanna show everyone how. This is probably not too smart, seeing as everyone will pick Techies and kill me with them now"

Again, this is just something for the reader to consider. This is not meant to be insulting, it is only meant to be constructive.

one gem for 750 gold and techies cant do shit....useless

Excellent

@ asdfjjj =
1. I wouldn't put screenies of myself getting stunned would I. Obviously he gets stunned. But loads of the time they simply try to run, ignoring what else they can do.
2. EVERYONE knows about the ^*@#ing gem/wards, as if I don't know, the next person to whinge about this is going to make me very mad.
3. Remote Mines do not damage buildings, creep waves can die in a hundred other ways.
4. I KNOW ABOUT THE ARMOR OMFG WHO DOESN'T??? And who the HELL Suicides late-game? I haven't mentioned any Suicides above the level of 12.
5. I have described Landmine's effects on towers, READ. I've added several things to supplement what I already have in the comments, you seem to have read NONE OF THEM. And I didn't leave it out of the main guide either.
Overall, as IF you aren't attempting to flame me. Looks like it to me. No further comment, get out of here. Sickening. Your comment makes me very angry. Notice that everyone else to take 15mins to flame me got shouted at, you wait.

Wow I hadn't noticed, you've ALREADY been flaming it a previous two times. Just DIE. Admin damn me, I couldn't care less - you, die.

whoa-getting a little overexcited, aren't we?

You have yet to learn what a flame is. I deny that I have ever flamed before; rather, I have criticized your guide. Seems as if you have not yet accepted that your guide isn't perfect, and you should be open to what can make it better.

Don't antagonize!

peace.

Denial is useless. You are a flamer. Get used to it, get over it.

Nice guide and screenies. I loved it.

Thanks. Rack up another positive comment YOU STINGY FLAMER... I don't mean YOU, I mean that guy up there who keeps flaming me...
Ahem. Thanks.

Nice guide by the way but I'd usually get a second euls after guinsoo. Techies can support his team well by doing this. Good job on making the suicide calculations I could use that next time I play techies.

@Shimrra_3
They're just critcisms....no flaming. and its not how YOU interpret it, its how The person who commented it about how he INTENDED it to be. this person said "I do not intend for this to be flaming". It should be done right there. Take the criticism and accept it.

@Shimrra_3
Perhaps Blood Stone would be good for Techies????

ONe last thing. somebody needs to fix typo in Statis Trap Levels...

Level 1 - Ward lasts 4.5 minutes and stuns for 3 seconds.
Level 2 - Ward lasts 5 minuntes and stuns for 4 seconds.
Level 3 - Ward lasts 5.5 minutes and stuns for 5 seconds.
Level 4 - Ward lasts 6 seconds and stuns for 6 seconds.

notice on level 4 it says ward lasts for 6 seconds and stuns for 6 seconds. i think its 6 minutes....

@ fwii~ = you're right about that actually... I've seen two Euls on Techies, its a fairly decent build. For the cost, two Euls is actually better than Guinsoo. I find the Hex more useful than the Cyclone, more often than not I have DPS allies instead of disabler allies, particularly if I get Techies instantly, they won't get INT heroes. So Hexing them is better so they get walloped. Euls would be better if I had, say, Lion/Rhasta/ES (or any of those ones I said).
@ Transfat = I'll pretend you didn't say the first comment, Bloodstone it depends (you want HEAVY mana regen and INT items) if you intend to use it with Suicide read about Lothars/Blink Suicide combos (ie its not useful), and yes there is a typo.

According to you, armor does affect Suicide damage. So, does that mean that Slardar would be a good ally because of Amplify Damage and does damage increase if an enemy has negative armor

@mance435
That's waaay to situational lol
I find a second Eul [b]After Guinsoo[/b] useful regardless of your lineup even DPS heroes could use a cyclone to help catch an escaping hero, I could also be used as a precaution to escape ganks without having to suicide.

fwii~ is right. All of that.

this is one amazing guide, but i wonder techies is not used because people are maphacking in battle.net

Hackers actually aren't that common in games... but the thing is its usually hard to tell the difference with Techies. If you're being cautious, not planting with enemies visable, they have no windwalkers etc to see you planting them, no wards, and the mines remain undamaged by creeps/heroes, and the heroes STILL avoid the spot, even after you replace the initial set of mines, then they are almost certainly hacking. Either that, or they are really scared of your team (including you of course), but this depends on the rest of the game. A total giveaway is if they go AROUND the mines. Its quite easy to see hackers if you're dealing with AOE vs invisible units, but this is very different.
Umm... the point is that maphacking isn't an overall concern when people play Techies. Its really just as dangerous to everyone else.

ok i see, but doesnt playing with maphackers make mines quite useless? although techies is a definite yes for first blood, but after that opponents get "smart" and "try" to avoid your mines. you know what i mean

Thanks for a very nice guide and some nice pic. I gave u 10/10. How long took it to make this strat?

@EasY-Cop
im guessing 8 hours.

You - you hacker! How the F$%* did you know THAT? Ok... creepy, but nice. Yes, 8 hours... initially.
@ Icyinferno = First+Second+Third etc blood with Suicide! I thought you read the guide man... Not mines! SUICIDE! Lol. The only way to 'get smart' is to buy Boots .

nice strat love the qaud kill

yes i read your guide and please, my name is Icyferno, not IcyInferno -.-. i still think you ought to add a bloodstone in though, since it compliments the suicide consequences. as for maxing statis trap early, i dont quite agree with it. although i agree with you that the 3 seconds difference may matter ALOT, but dont you think land mines are useful for pushing as well? since techies IS a defensive hero.

sorry for double posting, but those are really nice pictures. and its a really great guide, dont get me wrong. 10/10

nice sceenie... you've must have spent 1/2 of the game w8ing for him to reincarnate (lolZ)!

@Shimrra_3
yea well, considering the quality of one of stevo-o's guide and how long he said he worked on it, [8 hours]...well yea, u understand where my "guess" came from.

@joseclo08
lol dude....yea, techies=require a LOT of patience and good timing/decent micro.

NICE strat now i can play techies without sucking badly! 10/10

sigh.... last comment.

....again to prove the point that this is not a perfect guide.
[note that that was not a flame]

Quote: I wouldn't put screenies of myself getting stunned would I. [good point] Obviously he gets stunned. But loads of the time they simply try to run, ignoring what else they can do.
[Techies has a starting hp of 473. Because boots are the first item, that base hp is all he will have. One stun, a few attacks, and a nuke, and techies is done. Again, no flame present]

Quote: Remote Mines do not damage buildings, creep waves can die in a hundred other ways. [well put this in the guide then? Still nothing mentioned about pushing. Still no flame.]

Quote: I KNOW ABOUT THE ARMOR OMFG WHO DOESN'T??? And who the HELL Suicides late-game? I haven't mentioned any Suicides above the level of 12. [the level 12 business is new. Nowhere in the guide does it say, in any form, "do not suicide above level 12". Rather, suicide is still noted in the section titled "Mid Game, levels 10-16.]

Quote: I have described Landmine's effects on towers, READ. I've added several things to supplement what I already have in the comments, you seem to have read NONE OF THEM. [Like it is the obligation of the reader to read all of the comments? No way. Also nothing in guide mentioned about towers at all. Finally, no STILL no flame present.]

Thanks transfat. Appreciated.

aaaaaaand Quote: Just DIE. Admin damn me, I couldn't care less - you, die.
[Wow. Real mature.]


Finally, Wikipedia's definition of a flame: Flaming is the act of sending or posting messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting.

No comments deliberately insulting or hostile made. Well maybe YOU were outraged by comments that were meant to be constructive, but again, they were not deliberate.

Not unlike your comment, which seemed to be a bit hostile in my opinion. Just a little.

Peace.

Commented just to prove a bunch of people wrong. And btw, it is not an obligation of mine to make a guide that tops this one, just in case anybody will post that. If I do, I expect Shimrra_3 and others of the same mindset to rate it a one without any good reason. Hardly worth the effort.

peace. [again.]

@ Icyferno = sorry, I was sleepy. I reckon I might actually try lvl1 statis then max out Landmines, it seems like its more logical... the sole problem being that lower lvl Landmines take ages to cooldown and I'll be busy with Suicide and Remote Mines. This meaning that by lvl7 I will have either: lvl4 Suicide, lvl2 Statis, lvl1 Remote; OR; lvl4 Suicide, lvl1 Statis, lvl1 Landmine, lvl1 Remote. Now, how useful is a lvl1 Landmine really. But it DOES work out around lvl10, when I've maxed Landmines instead of Statis... seems like getting Shadow Strike to utilise the slow and then max out the other abilities (whatever): and that IS a good tactic. Ie, one skill point into a 3sec stun = good; 2 into 4 sec stun = bad. At any rate I'll try it at some point.

@ asdfjjj I am finished talking with you: it was clear from your first comment that you were insulting me, and it was clear from MY first comment that I found you very insulting. Further comments will result in me talking to the admin/mods/etc. It seems like you are a really sad person to go through all these comments to quote me yet you reckon no-one else should look in the comments for extra tips about the guide. Repeat comments 146 and 148. Note that you are the only person to actually flame the guide in over 120 comments, besides the usual 'gem/wards = techies useless' issue which really doesn't count. Repeat comment 150. And repeat 146 and 148... again. They seem to need more emphasis. Now go away and never come back.

@Shimrra_3, no problem, people do make mistakes. and i just finished a battle.net match, and i used goblin techies. in this game i planted one statis trap(in the middle lane) and followed up with 3 remote mines around it. then a little distance later, lets say 900 distance away, i repeated the procedure and continue planting. and i managed to get quite a number of kills. i think this technique might be useful. Also, i reckon that suiciding at late game is much more difficult, so i would rather use mines to kill escaping heroes, thus the remote mines in the area, which might ensure a kill.

@asdfjjj, clearly it shows that you do not appreciate other peopl's guide. if everything went your way, then what would be the point in making guides which vary in srategies and tactics? it only shows you as an immature person who thinks he is always right. im not trying to be aggresive here, but i think you owe Shimrra_3 an apology at least. As this website is created for all to benefit one way or another, many guides on a particular hero will help too. and form my point of view, i think Shimrra_3's guide is way way better than yours. Enough said, i think you should know what you ought to do now.

P.S. asdfjjj please learn to respect people more.

Late game suicides are a last resort, unless its like 'Oh what the hell we're winning'. Definitely mine instead. I think I've done that kinda formation, its useful. Like I commented somewhere above, I put a bunch of mines and blew a portion only, then blew the rest on another guy - two separate kills. I reckon putting em all in one place is better than several, unless you definitely have enough time/mana/etc. One spot to 10-12, then set a few to kill low hp heroes. Oh, and the sight too. I mentioned that for sure. Hmm we seem to understand each other. Not implying anything in particular...

yes, and i noticed one thing too, you said "bombard him until he becomes one, then suicide him and watch him become first blood" i admit, this works a lot for me too, but some heroes tend to know what you are going to do and "hug the tower" so which makes things a little difficult. and another comment is if you do not get first blood, it IS a little wasted isnt it? plus when you suicide and the person refuses to die lol.

yes, and i noticed one thing too, you said "bombard him until he becomes one, then suicide him and watch him become first blood" i admit, this works a lot for me too, but some heroes tend to know what you are going to do and "hug the tower" so which makes things a little difficult. and another comment is if you do not get first blood, it IS a little wasted isnt it? plus when you suicide and the person refuses to die lol.

yes, and i noticed one thing too, you said "bombard him until he becomes one, then suicide him and watch him become first blood" i admit, this works a lot for me too, but some heroes tend to know what you are going to do and "hug the tower" so which makes things a little difficult. and another comment is if you do not get first blood, it IS a little wasted isnt it? plus when you suicide and the person refuses to die lol.

I dont know why the above has a triple comment, i think its probably something wrong with my computer, please ignore it though

hmmm after reading your guide i am practicing techies and with enough reaserch i could say that you should update you guide hmmm maybe good spots to place remote mines

aND one more thing Landmines are used for killing and pushing i know statis is important but Landmines own

I made a stupid technique I dropped a ROR in the left corner of the river rigged with 7 landmines Axe and yurnero try to get it boom double kill got my ror and then pish towers with Landmine

I would suggest Landmine be used if you have stunners if you dont i agree with your earlier build

10/10 Just add more strategy PS. REMOTE MINE STILL OWNS IN LATE GAME and 100% defensive ultimate

@ Icyferno = thats what happens when you refresh the page after commenting, its a bad baaad idea... lol. Its not as bad to miss getting the kill with Suicide as long as someone ELSE gets it though. If they escape THEN you are allowed to be angry and get insulted by your allies. Baaa!

@ blooo = I've noticed something about my reasoning with the Landmines. (This should be read by everyone as it relates to a major issue in the guide). When I said (all those ages ago) somewhere in the start or middle of this guide that Landmines aren't spammable early game, I think that was based on my old OLD itembuild (which is really stupid and poorly thought): rush BoT. Now, with the new... MORE new build, ie get Euls asap, I can do that. On the other hand, running all over the place laying mines is a sure way to kill your experience gain, which you reeeeally need. Suicide does too but at least it screws theirs too. Now... I DID say I was going to try lvl1 Statis then max Landmines, I just haven't gotten Techies in a while, been trying to get screenies for a possible Vengeful Spirit guide (to be continued). Hmmm. Item baiting... a very nasty tactic, but I doubt I'd do it. Besides, that would most CERTAINLY only work once. Now, one more thing, do you mean stunner ALLIES or what? If I have stunner allies max Landmines if I don't get Statis? Is that it? I hope it is. OK, I go.

@Shimrra_3 ok ill make a note on that, never to refresh the page when leaving a comment. well it seems like suiciding late game is really a matter of whether its worth it or not. i try to rake up doble/triple kills while doing this, as without a bloodstone suiciding can be a real pain. plus, i noticed one thing about bloodstone. this item was like meant to be for techies!with the hp and mana regen to your allies when you die, during a team fight just go in and suicide, and see your opponents trying to limp away with low hp and your allies's with green hp bars chasing them.. LOL!

I haven't ignored that application of it. I just don't think pouring money into Suicide is worth anything. All you need is Boots as first item then get mining items.

hmm same here, i usually use your item build if the team needs disablers. else i just buy 4-5 void stones along with the boots of speed, then turn in into a BoT, then complete one perseverance and finally soul booster to make bloodstone, so i have BoT, Bloodstone, and void stoens in inventry, then the spare money i use to make Eul and finally finishing off with guinsoo

Hmmmm. Thats more or less what I used to do. Except it'd be Aghanims not Bloodstone. I have already said Aghanims on Techies is stupid, I quit using it about three comments into this guide. My current build is:
Boots
Guinsoo (Euls first)
BoT
Linkens
Skadi/Radiance
Radiance/Skadi (whichever I need first)
*Optional Item*

hmm useful, i should think of going for a linken's sphere, as it can help at certain times, but i still think EoS is a nono, as its quite expensive, and i think that the game would be much over when it is finally made. so which finishes it off as:
Boots of Travel
Guinsoo Scythe of Vyse
Bloodstone
Linken's Sphere
and whatever needed, Aghanim/EoS/Radiance, but IMO i think bloodstone is more important than aghanim because of the reduced waiting time while spawning since this guide piroritises on suiciding.

The guide prioritises on Suiciding but the thing is getting any of those items means that you have far too much money or you just put yourself very far behind. And then its not useful in a coupla levels, because you aren't Suiciding. Its useless once they all get 1000+hp or so. So building items over it isn't smart. See any of comments 42, 46, 92, 106 and 155. Those items are not rushable enough to be useful on Techies. Possibly Blink Dagger, but not Lothars or Bloodstone. Bloodstone could be gotten for the stats (other items are more suitable for Techies in my opinion), but not the Redemption bit. And as for EoS, its quite obtainable, in any game where your side needs to get a bit stronger before pushing (late game/DPS heroes for example) and the OTHER side wants to push but keeps getting blown up by you, because you're awesome cause you're Techies, THEN the game will just draaag onnnnn... so you farm a bit. And EoS is a very viable item to put Techies in team ganking because of the slow.

i hate people who can use techies >.

@Shimrra_3 ok i get your point in that, bloodstone is out then. hmm i just hada thought about dagon, seeing as you have no active skill thats a nuke, and as mines need to be blown up at the right time, i think dagon would be quite useful in terms of killing? and, just to make sure, Aghanim raises hp and mana, so you can plant more mines, but extra hp for survival? i mean, look at techies's armour. hmm

I tried Dagon Techies, and it did get me a kill... but that was in a full-team gank. And I didn't even see who I killed either... and it got me a Monster Kill - I had been fed. So that one instance is not a reliable test of Dagon Techies. Aghanims beats Bloodstone with the Int, but I reckon the new build is better. Linkens and Skadi make Techies pretty tank. An armor item would be quite good... he has 4 at lvl25... except theres none that sychronise with Techies play style.

haha nice guide^^ imma try usin dis one

Exxxxcellent...

im assuming, with everything you get in your item build, EoS, LinkenSphere, + stats at max lvl, +60 to agility, which is roughly 8.5 armor, added to techies original armour, 12.5, which is quite needed. so linken and EoS is the way to go, haha

Yep, there certainly is that.

I LIKE TECHIES!!

Good! People who like Techies are the sane ones! Nyahahahahaaa! *Evil laugh* ...yooouuuu didn't see annnnythiiinnnng...

lol another game with techies and certainly i agree with your words "persistance is better than cowardice" although i was dying i continued chasing 2 heroes and got a double kill with suicide wahahhaha. by the way with EoS and Linken's sphere, you wont die easily, i tried that. some guy was using lina nad laguna blade me and woops linken saved me LOL.

Lol, good job. Laguna Linkens ahahahaa.

yea and i noticed one more thing, about this website, comments have no pages? XD they should have a scroll bar specially for comments.wish i could help them do it

Hmmm. Good idea actually...

lol 201 comments on a single guide, one of the highest i seen so far, your guide is popular Shimrra_3 :P

guide VERY popular...cuz its about a suicidal pack of laughing mischeivous goblin techies thats what. plus, there are huge explosions on the strategy. who wouldn't wanna visit back and re-comment after watching 4 ppl die and hands of Shimrra_3 and his techies :P

Yeah there is that. Certain attractiveness... and theres all the controversy surrounding it too. Look at the Naix guide as well lol...

Whoaaaa. I just tried the Venge-Techies trick - Nether Swap to Mines (any) and it OWNS the WORLD. My advise is this: you need a partner to work with you, it can't just be a random guy, you need to plot it out in advance a bit. Its really simple, lay a few mines, Venge stands on them, swaps a guy in, he dies. Also, we only really did it cause it was used on US yesterday and we got really pissed off at them lol. Our own clan members would do that to us... sigh... baaaah. At any rate, the combo OWNS, I wish I knew about it when I wrote the initial guide.

you can also try the tiny-techies combo.
toss-suicide owns

Oh yes, we've all seen that one I'm sure lol. I haven't had an opportunity to test that yet. I should try tomorrow or something. Thanks for reminding me. Ah, look up Dota Highlights on Youtube, they've got lots of that stuff. And that one I mention several dozen comments ago about accidently Suiciding an invisible Bounty Hunter. Baaaa - that one does look like hacks... ah well it was funny still. Youtube search for 'dota highlights', 'dota endless story', 'dota ultimate trailer', 'tiny techies' (I dunno that one for sure), etc.

hmmm, vengeful spirit and techies...very nice! im gonna try that out :D. hmm, is remote mines spell damage?

BooooMM

I THINK its spell damage. However it works, armor reduces it. So, heroes like SA and Naga Siren etc are harder to take out due to their armor.

ooooo yes! another reasons why to play with vengeful, most vengies i play with go for stygian..and she already has a corrupt armor skill..

I hate that skill tho. Maybe I'll try it at some point, but I usually get stats then Command Aura then more stats (assume that Missile and Swap are givens).

hmmm, well, i guess its off because once vengeful gets that "howl" thingy and stygian techeis would be too high level to suicide, oh well.

dazzle is not only good for the slow, he's good for the minus armor and his ulti, i think his ulti was made for techies :D.

great guide!
pretty funny

nice thas all i can say

@ Transfat = a) I reckon Weave is kinda situational, like Amp Damage - and they usually notice and stand back a bit too. b) I don't think Shallow Grave would do much with Suicide, SG only activates when you are 'killed' - Suicide = killing himself. It might speed the recovery, but it wouldn't damage anyone. c) Stygian is too high a goal to use with Suicide, having it on a different guy helps a BIT (because it means Techies is still getting his INT itembuild in the background) but its an expensive item and again, as with Lothars, Bloodstone, and Blink Dagger, its not going to work. Stygian followed by mines would be better, but thats impossible to predict if you ask me.

now for an overview of combos for techies.

vengeful spirit's nether swap + mines
tiny's toss + suicide
bane elemental's nightmare + suicide
potm's moonlight shadow + suicide (it works i tried that)
magnataur's reverse polarity + mines or suicide (it owns seriously)
rhasta's shackes + suicide (this owns early game more)

i've yet to try with naga siren's ultimate, but i reckon that one wont work, so... any more from you guys?

All of those work except possibly Nightmare. I don't know for sure because when I tried I think I just got excellent timing - but its a disable at any rate. Bane's Fiend's Grip would work also but the thing with that is they're dead anyway. I reckon Black Hole would be very dangerous.

theoretically, you could KS roshan by planting multiple ults and waiting for ur opponent to get him down to a reasonable HP for lasthitting, right?

this is a good strategy...this make me know how to use techies in a better way..thx man!!

Trying to kill Roshan with any kind of mines is a stupid stupid thing to try. I've seen and done it now. About a dozen mines takes off maybe 5-10% of his hp, which is not worth it. Statis Traps will work for the same amount as normal.

@1337!!!111
the keyword is "theoretically"

Correct. You could not kill Roshan from full hp... the mines would disapate before you had enough. Not mentioning your mana pool would simply curl up and die.

1. In the techies combo comment, you forgot meat hook+mine/suicide.
2. When planting mines in the forest, plant a stasis trap, should you run into a backdoorer/neutral creeper or two you can stun them so you can run.
3. Plant remote mines at low health towers of your side to prevent backdooring.
4. Stand at a place where you find most encounters occur. Click at the fountain of your opponent. Techies will travel via the quickest route(remember to make him stop when he gets to close to a tower), also the path which most enemies take. Plant mines along this route.
5. Never play techies in solo games. You need teammates to gank enemies in case they got a gem.
6. While roaming around the forest planting mines, plant sentry wards occasionally. This is to find enemy sentry wards, which you can destroy to clear the area for your mines.

Just a few things I thought I want to add. Good guide 10/10

@ Rambol = your comment is 10/10. Particularly 4 and 5. Need to try 4. Hmmhmm. Very nice.

One more thing:

Dazzle is not just a good ally because of his slow. You say that suicide can be useful up to level 12. In that case, his shallow grave will help you, not to mention that your hex and six second stun will help DPS type Dazzle.

^^^^^agreed

@ rambol & transfat = Shallow Grave will only speed Techies recovery time. Its not THAT great. No actual damage to an enemy, he isn't 'being killed' as I've said. And of course Techies' disables will help most DPS heroes... but another disable is always nice.

Great guide the only thing i would add is arcane ring it really helps with placing mines early on.

Gem of true sight == WAT THE HELL WILL U D AGAINST RANGE HERO??!!??
But suicide guide is the best.....
That last armour thing....Thanks fer that but how do u know that armour %??
i really want to know coz i always want to play goblin techies but my friends say that goblin = easy kill.

With ur guide i m fully confident that i can Kill/Piss my opponents Like hell............................

The best part of the guide was TO SAVE YOUR WINNING STREAK ...

YOU ARE THE BEST

@ nopenoname = Arcane Ring works well. I know that, its good, also for the additional armor. I'd get Guinsoo fir