Face-ful of Void
Created by jake-the-mus on 2007-02-03
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About the same build I use for Void except I normally buy either a bracer/wraith band so a stat boost before finishing treads.
i don't exactly agree on getting basher, from what i heard, cranium basher cancels out the chance for bash to activate and overwrites bonus damage lenght and chance, just like how mortred's crit gets overwirtten by buriza, im not sure about this but i gave you a 7
HOLY SH*T are you nuts? It stacks. Come on. Everyone knows that. Nice screenies
I don't play Void but my friend does and this is correct.
Mmm. I don't recommend getting bash early game. Yes, it is indeed good for farming, however it is unreliable since you have low AS at that time. Maxing out Back Track earlier is a big plus, since it gives you more survivability. Other than that it's nice.
Pretty good strategy.. permabash, especially on faceless, is ridiculously hard to beat. In my experience you don't really need buriza.. i actually like getting vlad's for the bonus 16% lifesteal, or sometimes i'll get MKB. Either way this will help out those noobs who constantly repick Faceless. Well done.
OMG mahn its like deja Vu of my strat!!!
Allthough jus one problem, You CANNOT have MoM in the late game. Through much experience if you would have MoM along with a Permabash also a crit., a hero with just a couple of blademails could kill you, and yes even with the life steal you would be killing yourself faster than the other guy. I suggest getting rid of the MoM once you have a butterfly and getting SnY or EoS for stats. Also wres the Hyperstone?! Dude you can't have permabash without the stone!!
Peaceout. FV owns!!!
Yeah I also forgot to say that with the frenzy on you would be taking more damage.
you should buy bracer in early game... anyway nice strat
Hi everyone thanks. Ok: @Donatboy: Dude it stacks of it stacks. @Shimrra_3: Thanks yeah you're right of course perma-bash stacks. @yuki: Yeah, well I got my first basher in mid game so It was ok for me in that game. @Charlotte: No, Never get MKB because the 0.1 sec stun overrides the 1 second stun thus screwing it up. @Faceless_void: Hey dude, yeah i read you're strats there nice and Hyperstones are great I've actually expierimented with some alternate builds since submitting this strat and instead of a buriza or butterfly I just bought 2 Hyperstones because the game had almost ended. It works well because you would probably kill them before you would even crit them lol. @noob: you can buy whatever items you want early game thats why I didnt state any starting items. Thanks guys and comment more if you wish
The way I play Faceless is similar to yours. I just use two different items:
S&Y instead of Buri
--> Movement speed of 401
--> Chance to get Maim
Vlad's instead of MoM, it's not an orb effect, so I have Bash (about 55% and additional 10% of maim)
However nice guide 9/10
@Gary: Yes I do sometimes sell my MoM late game and opt for vladmir's offering because you have enough ASPD late game so you can trade your first orb effect for S&Y.
nice guide. and btw nice beyond godlike streak xD
Hehee thanks, I was pretty proud considering it was my first time using him on Battle.net but i've practised with him many times since then.
First of all. Getting 2 bashers is overkill. consider getting 1 basher and a hyperstone instead, you want to max your attackspeed. (maybe perhaps 2 as the game goes on but dont prioritise hyperstone for like butterfly)
speaking of butterfly, did you know that it stacks with backtrack? so you have a 50% total evasion with faceless, so butterfly is a yes yes.
And dont get S&Y, you have bash and timewalk as chasing skills, that is sufficient, get MoM instead. this is how it's done:
1.activate frenzy (MoM)
2. timwalk in, get 2-4 hits (depending if the hero has a disable or if there are any disablers nearby.
3. cast ulti. (dont spend time now activating frenzy and then to hit the hero (you'll lose valuable seconds))
4. let friendly heroes position themselves strategically for a easy finish-off shall the hero survive.
Another thing, don't get MKB since the ministuns will cancel out the main bash stuns, however if you're lvl 25 with frenzy on and 2 hyperstones and a CB, the little wont matter
Ok.......Dude you just summed up my strat in a paragraph. You just said everything that's in my strat the item build and everything even the way to kill so dude if you have something to contribute then post a comment but if you wanna just say my strat again, don't.
@ dota allstar and jakethemus
this was also his FIRST BEYOND STREAK ON BNET and hes so proud. how they grow up fast
anywho nice strat, yes i did show jake teh faclessvoid but this was his and how well he did. gj jake
.......It doesn't actually matter. Even if I played this game now I'd still use this as the screenies, Cos it was such an epic game. (even though we lost). Now I have at least 5 beyond godlike streaks so shut up lawrence.
cool strategy very nice
Thanks Very much too me a while to complete, too.
Two bashers is much better than a hyperstone hyper stone cost to much for its effect
Really good and detailed strategy
good strat man i use the same strat in every game i always go like 14-0
Thanks guys for all your comments.
he does have his bash why should you buy a basher agen its better if he have S and Y together with butterfly for faster and many possibilities to bash the enemy
Well if you do the maths you'll reilise that more bash less attack speed (although you have plenty from the butterfly/hyperstone(s)) will bash more. Haveing just your skill just isn't enough.
Nice one!!.. now i can practice this hero.. everyone seems like they don't want this hero because it looks weak.. but i dont think its true.. thankz for the nice STRATEGY...
go PERMASTUN!!..
good strategy? nice
for me, i don't feel getting a basher.
a melee with a 25% of bash +70dmg is good enough, maxing the damge and attackspd is my build coz of chronosphere if you have a high atkspd+dmg you sure can kill a 2 hero
but this is sure a nice strategy no one will escape haha. btw basher don't cancel the bonus dmg but MKB cancels the time of stun
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Thanks very much, Yeah that's why I left the monkey king bar out for him definitly. And If you go a damage build and not permastun. I recommend Mjollnir, Buriza, Treads and any other items you might like.
Again 2 bashers is overkill!!! I suggest focusing more on damage for chronosphere. Y not buy MoM, 2 burizas, aegis and HoT or if ur a real PRO go with divine after aegis. with HoT u cn 1 on 1 easily with str base heros like barathrum or SK. try it folks. Godlike or Holyshit is not impossible. with divine rapier u can even 1 on 1 with roshan.
Dude....2 Buriza's? No. It's fine the way it is.
Rofl Jake....
WTH? Whos that?
I disagree about your two cranium bashers because for four reasons:
1. he already has a bash skill
2. waste of inventory slot (you'd better of getting hyperstone)
3. waste of money
4. it is already an overkill on faceless because even without the two cranium bashers you had an insane attack speed (assuming you had hyperstone), 25% bash, and had a chrono what more can you ask
Please stop commenting on getting two bashers! TRUST ME if you have actually played a game with faceless void where you reached level 25 and had those items in your inventory then you will see how good two bashers are. He already has good attack speed since The Butterfly gives +50% attack speed.
ive a different build. i use manta(coz illusions make use of passive skills and manta can burn away mana - which also damages) and buriza. Chronosphere, illusion then whack away... and dun forget butterfly!
NIce,i will give 8
You seem to *not* understand that 2 bashers are inferior to 2 hyperstones which are actually cheaper by around 2k, which is worth around 50 creep kills, despite the many objections given by the more knowledgeable amongst the commenters. Here's the mathcraft:
Basherx2(Bashing Chance):
(100-(.85 x 85 x .75))
= 45.8125% chance to bash
Hyperstonex2(Bashing Chance):
25 * 1 + (.55x2)
= 55% chance to bash
Additionally, I would like to point out that Hyperstone also increases DT's damage more than Bashers do.
additional Basher Damage
= 30x2
= 60
additional Hyperstone Damage
= .55 x 2 x FV's damage (around 100)
= 110
Bashers get owned. QED.
For me I get 2 hyperstones by level 11 or so then hunt- for my team and to win the game. I can already semi-permabash as well as deny the enemy team a great deal of time and level.
On the other hand, your methods are extremely poor when it comes to helping your team win the game in pushing. You rely on teammates to give you the time you need to bloom into a killer. This is actually extremely stupid. I don't know actually how the enemies let you farm up into a permabasher, and if so, why they did not stick together to prevent your ganks.
All in all, a mediocre guide. And I won't pretend that this unflattering commentary is more or less fueled by my irritation at your selfish comments on other guides that deserve more merit than your own.
RW.
Errr okay..... "dude" I have respected everyones input and comments. You saying that is kind of contradicting all of what people have said. And even if you have so much attack speed, It's not as important as chance to bash. You have a mask of madness to kill heroes, you don't need it on creeps. Please don't make such offensive comments and if you want to, go somewhere else.
COOOOOL
well that really worked man !!!
Thanks very much bro! At least some people appreciate hard work.
XC
I LOVE THE MAKEUP
Hehehehee thanks bro!
Excellent . i think u should ger an MKB instead of a butterfly and get a MoD ,power treads and ring of bascillius in the starting
Man i disagree with the 2 bashers.It is better you get another Buriza and change MoM with Satanic.Also You dont need Aegis cause you heve great escaping skill.It is smarter you make BKB so even if someone think of making Blademeals you can kill him without getting yourself half killed also
First of all, I'm the calcuator while yuki ain't here. Here's 2x basher chance along with bash skill (25 + 15/2 + 15/4 = 7.5 + 25 + 3.75 = 36.25% chance) But damage does not stack, here's why: [(70 damage for void's bash - 25% chance) and (25 damage for item bash - 22.5% chance). @jakethemus -> Remember, you are not making guides for pros. REMEMBER FOR BEGINNERS is the guides are for. For me, Just give me an H-stone, treads and B-fly I can own w/faceless. Beginners play very differently from us pros,
@pornostar: Dude no MKB at ALL for this hero, it cancels out his bash even if you don't buy any bashers. @shadowmaster: I don't care about the basher's BONUS damage, it becomes almost invisable late game, I care about the bash. You can't actually ever know which thing is bashing. Butterfly gives 50% extra attackspeed anyway so you can either get a hyperstone or a buriza, without the bfly you can manage 650 crits at level 25.
Oh sorry I thought you meant MKB, and about the aegis, THEY ARE NOT IN MY ITEM BUILD I only bought them in that game because if I died then our team had a large chance of losing. (and we did lose even though I didnt die)
Sange and Yasha is so neccessary for Faceless it isn't even funny... MoM will kill you early game. Treads Sange and yasha 2 Bashers MKB. Add... something, a butterfly, a hyperstone, linken's, depends on the enemies. I don't think you'll need to though.
Ever took a team in a chrono?Try MoM and 2 BattleFurry.OWNage
Great build! Same as mine
@Lord_of_draenor: NEVER a MKB with him it cancels the bash. Nuff Said.
nice guide..
Now this is what i call a muther fukin good guide. The clips are fukin nice to.
F***ing thanks mate....
Whats with ur gay jokes? LOL
ncie screenies... :D nice strat..
hey this is my first comment ever...
although im not a pro to judge ur build or anything but id like to say that the way u presented the whole thing was fun to read :)
Imba lol
NICE GUIDE!!!
9 outa 10!!!
most funny guide ever seen :D nice pics ;)
What can I say... I followed ur guide and owned my last game!! This is just great
maybe Buriza for one of the Bashers?
good stuff!!
very very nice
thx for your advice dude..alot of effort in it. I didnt know MoM could be that useful
and nice Godlike..funny how you can take photos while you play
LMAO. Thanks everyone oh and you can save the replay then when you watch it press "PrntScrn" on your keyboard then you paste it in paint.
nice guide .I THANK YOU
I THINK ANTO_FOUR IS RIGHT .2 HYPER STONE IS BETTER THAT 2 BASHER
Good strat. I approve.
i think ur both wrong 1 basher 1 hyper goodbye
no MKB on the item build?? with threads, MoM and MKB on habd..his owning...! then go for basher or butterfly next...that is how i play with this due...nice though!
Agree completely with yukiiiiiiino
Only one basher is required, coupled with 25 percent bash already 30% is really unnecessary. Back track is also a better choice early game as it can protect from ALL damage, even nukes! Bash shouldn't be relied on for harass and killing so early in game.
The new hood of defiance works well with this guy in early game and the spell reduction goes well with backtrack, this guide also helped me alot. good work
Void is funny
good on mid game too
nice strat! I watched someone play him with same items and they freakin' owned! he's one of the heroes that I fear mid and late game!
damn i owned in bnet yesterday with this guide, 20-0 until the other team all left the game, great guide
hmmmmm
well i dont totally agree with your strategy for facelss ...try this out next time...threads,MoM,butterfly,battlefury,crits,yasha,,,
if not u cant even stack 2 battlefuries,,which is jus imba for
this hero.,.,,crits r really important,,chainlightnin is absolutely uselss,mkb could pove troublesome.,,.! but with my first build, believ it or not i could take on 1 v 4.,,its imba!
nice guild ,,,,thanks a lot
just wondering, does the butterfly evasion stack with backtrack?? cuz i heard it doesnt
i don't know if it stacks but i know it making the backtrack from 25% to 50%
thats what i have know
#38 is wrong
2x Basher:
45,81%
2x Hyperstone:
52,5% : 0.25 * (1 + 0.55*2)
1x Hypersone + 1x Basher:
56,19% : (1-0.25)*(1-0.15)*(1+0.55)
hey dude! nice strat.. only you forgot about one thing- hyperstone, for you to call it a real permabash. u can swap the MoM for it, anyway you got the butterfly. i hope to see more of your strats for other heroes sooner..and don't forget the screenies.haha. tnx.
faceless rocks!
2 bashers, MoM, PT, buriza, butterfly = Godlike
it's really a nice guide... XD
item built is not okay 4 me.....coz it team game u need 2 kill as many as posible...so forget the bashers and make 2 battlefurries....i played that built many times and u can kill all team if u do right Chronosphere.....but if u want 2 have good 1vs1 hero bashers are right thing 2 do.....
2 battlefuries can be stack...and butterfly evasion is stack with backtrack
Hi everyone! To all those wondering about Backtrack and Evasion: Ok just to clear this up, umm yeah *Evasion* does not stack with *Evasion* E.g: Radience and Butterfly or 2 x Butterfly. But *Backtrack* is a seperate thing! (Even though it does exactly the same thing!) so *Backtrack* and *Evasion* DO STACK.
Thanks.
this is a nice strategy!!!!
Ok v. nice strategy m8, can i just say my items tht won me a 24-0 in a CLAN MATCH (CEGL) this is definately the best build close to yours. Ok you do know tht bash only stacks to 40% to 2 craniums is definately not a good idea (2nd one doesnt work) in order this is how u want to build:
*Power Treads
*Hyperstone (upgrade to Assult Cuirass if u want)
*Cranium Basher
*Mask of Madness
*2nd Hyperstone
*Monkey King Bar/Sange and Yasha/ Butterfly (just a dmg item butters is best for attack speed).
I think you will all find that these items will DESTROY your enemies.
to end i will say 1 word ATTACK SPEED!!
Hahaha N33B I played a game with you
Yeah for the last damage item hows Radience? And who are you man? Bnet name I'd love to know lol!!
It was a random pub but it was fun
1 hyperstone > 6 bashers, Bash chances stack diminishingly try this in single player game.
NICE STRAT DUDE !!!!!!!! YOU GOT ME A BEYOND GODLIKE STREAK!!!!! Please don't laugh at my username i made it when i was small
ANYWAZ BEAUTIFUL STRATEGY!!!!
really good strats owned alot of faces with it.
hmmm, good overall guide with nice screenies that explained a lot...10/10.
just one thing, u said low mana early game, yes thats "sorta" bad but everyone skilled Dark Terror user [and you] got his awesome 2 PASSIVES early game. so i dun think mana big problem. In fact, i dont think mana is a big problem in all stages of the game. cuz he uses those 2 skills not that much, ulti=long cooldown and TW=only in escaping and chasing so yea....
GOOD GUIDE! i pwned with it.
nice guide, only person i would consider getting treads instead of travels
i hav 3 suggestion 4 ur guide first instead of buying MoM get a hiperstone 2do buy treads no boots of travel and 3rd get a satanic u will be unbeatable
At first on darkterror Mask of madness
or Bash Which is good????
If im not wrong 2 Bashers give you a 16% chance to stun, with Time Lock it adds to 16+26 = 41%! and with MoM and Butterfly, opponents say goodbye, except of course, Tiny and players who buy blade mails or even Nerubian Assassin, because youll end up killing yourself.
just to clarify a few stuff:
evasion does not stack. but FV's backtrack and Specter's dispertion are different from a normal evasion so it will stack with other evasion.
to calculate the total evasion, use the formula 1-(1-A)*(1-B) where a is evasion from backtrack/dispersion and B is evasion from items
so FV with lvl 4 backtrack (25%) a bfly (30%) will have 47.5% evasion NOT 55%
as for bashes and crits:
Both critical strikes and bashes stack with diminishing returns, as according to the formula:
1 - ( 1 - A ) * ( 1 - B ) * ( 1 - C ) .... ( 1 - X ) = Chance to bash / critical strike
where A, B, C and so forth are the seperate chances for each item or skill that can bash / critical strike.
When calculating damage from critical strikes, if two occur at once, only the last critical strike skill or item you achieved will have effect. Skills are only counted as achieved when they are learnt for the first time.
When calculating bashes, it depends on whether you're a melee or ranged hero. It is universal though that if the bash time you should apply is less than the bash time the opponent currently has left, then no change in the bash time will be made.
Melee heroes' bashes stack fully, where if two bashes occur at once, the longest stun time from all of the bashes, and each and every seperate bash's damage will work. The damage is reduced by armour type spell resistance (and eliminated by magic immunity), but the stun is not blocked by magic immunity. The damage is counted as a seperate source, and does thus not affect lifesteal, nor is it affected in any way by criticals.
As for ranged heroes, if two bashes occur at once, only the bash time and damage from the last bash skill or item you got will work. The damage is hero type physical damage, that means it's not blockable by magic immunity and it's reduced by armour type hero resistance and armour value. The stun, however, is blockable by magic immunity. The damage is added as your normal damage, but will be skipped if a critical triggers after it. If the bash triggers after the critical, the damage will be added after the critical strike has multiplied the damage.
i got this from the mechanics section in dota-allstars.com
if you want to learn more, visit this thread.. contains lots of useful information
http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=34345
just to clarify a few stuff:
evasion does not stack. but FV's backtrack and Specter's dispertion are different from a normal evasion so it will stack with other evasion.
to calculate the total evasion, use the formula 1-(1-A)*(1-B) where a is evasion from backtrack/dispersion and B is evasion from items
so FV with lvl 4 backtrack (25%) a bfly (30%) will have 47.5% evasion NOT 55%
as for bashes and crits:
Both critical strikes and bashes stack with diminishing returns, as according to the formula:
1 - ( 1 - A ) * ( 1 - B ) * ( 1 - C ) .... ( 1 - X ) = Chance to bash / critical strike
where A, B, C and so forth are the seperate chances for each item or skill that can bash / critical strike.
When calculating damage from critical strikes, if two occur at once, only the last critical strike skill or item you achieved will have effect. Skills are only counted as achieved when they are learnt for the first time.
When calculating bashes, it depends on whether you're a melee or ranged hero. It is universal though that if the bash time you should apply is less than the bash time the opponent currently has left, then no change in the bash time will be made.
Melee heroes' bashes stack fully, where if two bashes occur at once, the longest stun time from all of the bashes, and each and every seperate bash's damage will work. The damage is reduced by armour type spell resistance (and eliminated by magic immunity), but the stun is not blocked by magic immunity. The damage is counted as a seperate source, and does thus not affect lifesteal, nor is it affected in any way by criticals.
As for ranged heroes, if two bashes occur at once, only the bash time and damage from the last bash skill or item you got will work. The damage is hero type physical damage, that means it's not blockable by magic immunity and it's reduced by armour type hero resistance and armour value. The stun, however, is blockable by magic immunity. The damage is added as your normal damage, but will be skipped if a critical triggers after it. If the bash triggers after the critical, the damage will be added after the critical strike has multiplied the damage.
i got this from the mechanics section in dota-allstars.com
if you want to learn more, visit this thread.. contains lots of useful information
http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=34345
almost like me
the butterfly rox with the 25% evasion + evading skill makes u untouchble
i usaly buy the new shield after the dual bash and MOM :)
nice guide but i dont thing Faceless Void is bad in early game becous he has good dammage in the beginning and with bash it would own easly the others and if not you can lvl.1 timewalk outta there :P
great guide. tried ur strategy right now and was beyond godlike in lategame. lost anyways because they destroyed our base xD. hes great at escaping and his stunlock is very effective in almost every 1on1 situation. thx for the guide
Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this hero is cool
Wow... two bashers... waste of money man... 1 is mor than enuf to pain your enemies. get a vanguard or heart instead! assault cuirass... better!
but not two bashers!
Nice startegy!!!
i think that your second basher isn't useful as the first, so i prefer a hyperstone, but...
PERFECT GUIDE! (for nbs, at least.. i'm not pro)
10/10
is this strat could work in tournaments?..like for 4on4..againts sven,jakiro,silencer and chen?..sentinels--->>>super fast play..
i do faceless void in tournaments..but i didn't really make him win with that line up of heroes in sentinel..but we do win when we are senti..fast game man..
Ok.... gots questions
I really dont like bashers... well i like them 1 on 1 but you do realize that if this is a team battle
Lets say 3 vs. 3 you might perma stun 1 guy but how about the other 3...??
so my question is is 2 bashers really needed in team battles
Cuz this is my item build for Facless
MOM,Treads/Bot, Butterfly, HOT, Optional burize
hmmm i dont know what to do...
the best hero en DOTA, there´s no need to get cranium basher, just S & Y , Butterfly and Buriza-do Kyanon
my item build for him is "Deso, one or two CB, threads, butterfly or hyperstone..and i the game..another good build for him is..MoM, threads, MKB..he will own anyone in the game..since we almost had the same item build..i will give 8/10 for the whole strategy..
i love u
this strategy is pretty good .but make sure that u solo and go for this strategy
or it doesn't work out well.i just owned a few fellas with this build and i loved it.void is one of my favorites.
when are they gonna make new heroes...i need to see new heroes icefrog :)
i tried this strategy it works!!!!!!!
all u need to do wen using faceless is concentrate on ur damage and attack spd... be sure to kill ur foes before ur chrono stops..
So you bought Bashers, and you are boasting for owning noobs. Great, now I would like to see an actual realistic guide instead of say "ok, now lina should be noob enough for me to kill her."
hmm... i think you might wanna change MoM with Satanic... also, add hyperstone
(if you kills alot and cash-flooding), works well 4 me...
nice, 7/10
IF YOU TIME WALK YOU ARE INVULNERABLE WHILE THE ANIMATION IS WORKING RIGHT?
lol three agies lol
I like this strat so much. You made the faceless void my favorite hero! I finally reached beyond godlike thanks to you!
Though, I do like messing around with the skill build, but that's just because I'm an idiot.
This hero is a real killer!!!
Darkterror(faceless void) is a chronoboy....
I wouldn't go for bashers.. every clan match I'm in they target anyone who gets them to make sure they don't permastun
nice strategy it was very enjoyable :lol
>>>bashers are not thebuild you must increase the dmg bec. u already had the crono and time walk for slowing and a 25 percent time lock for stunning and for fast killing like building critical
10 out of 10....i love it...i won games even 3 to 1 with him...great hero...
i like to use Power Treads, MOM, Assault Cuirass, and 3 BUTTERLIES!!!
if the enemy comes in a group, i'll normally cast chronosphere on them and kill the int hero
If u dont like this guide make u re own u dont know how hard is to make a good guide...
@bloo: I really dont like bashers... well i like them 1 on 1 but you do realize that if this is a team battle
Lets say 3 vs. 3 you might perma stun 1 guy but how about the other 3...??
hahaha other 3? 4v4 or 3v3 make u re mind...
lol...
well...nice strat. i tried ur item build and i owned!!! thx
25% chance to prevent all dmg + 30% evasion from butfly = 55% untouchable
huh backtrack also works on spells.
Faceless God Void
try using diffusal blade then manta style in your item build.
Purge after chronosphere in the early game or mid game..
then convert it to manta stlye in the late game..use it inside the chronosphere and activate MoM...OWNING!
Dude another awesome strategy for void as usual i always own with him.By the way two relaly awesome allies for void are Lich and Rylai both theyre ultis can wreck havoc for enemy heroes in the chronosphere.
Good guide, if you have two bashar your enemy will take pause unintentionally. The important thing is that void should try to acquire madness as soon as possible.
nc thing buriza para may crit mabilis pa umatake..
you know wat?
you try using 1 MoM and 2 BF
tis is a good team playa
jus try
No need to buy MoM...don't waste your money. i'm just buy sange yasha first, then 2 cranium basher and hyperstone. well, i prefer hyperstone than MoM...because MoM makes you are very easy to be killed...(20% damage takes)
i've been meaning to give this hero a try and this guide helped me alot. it got me kills and alot of respect(lol). the bashers, i consider are a must. i was thinking about getting the hyperstone but the butterfly and covered it fine. great guide liked it alot!!!!!!!!
i prefer MoM than SnY coz SnY doesnt really help! when i 1st try this hero i used SnY then i dont reallly ownd troll coz his fast as hell so betta get MoM for d permabash
PERFECT
Yo, THe two bashers really helped!
lol, great and hilarious guide 10/10
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SECOND TO RAZOR IS LIFESTEALER!!!!!! WAHAHAHAHA
nice!!
This hero is truely a good dominator in late game.
I really enjoy playing with your guide..
I get godlike streak just at lvl 11 bro!..
I give 10 out of 10!.. :lol
some comments:
- for early games, circlet would be very helpful, 2-3 of them (you don't even need bracers/wraithbands, just circlets
), since like other AGI hero, he has a very low HP at early, so he will take advantage from booster item ALOT,and circlet will help his HP and AGI, and two RoR won't help much either, esp if your opponents are heavy nukers like silencer/ viper. Like u said, one is enough, you can upgrade it into headress if you want to,or even buy RoH, pot will help also such as tango/bottle
- for the skill build, max backtrack ASAP will be good, since it's your weapon on defensing, and bash lvl 4 just to last hitting is a waste of SP IMO, since he's already had a good base damage, so bash lvl 1 is more than enough at early games.You don't think to FB your enemy on early game with lvl 4 bash, do you?
- for the items, like others had said before me, 2 bashers is just too wasted, since he already had cronos, 1 is more than enough, and you can straight rushing to eaglehorn (gives you more aspd and damage) to be upgraded into butter. Hyperstone also won't be much needed IMO until late game, since, again, you have cronos, and if you're playing team like 5 vs 5, you also have TEAMMATES. I prefer making another butter then a hyperstone.
Radiance also considerable . Actually i like this more then buri-za, but well, it's just me anyway. For MoM n PT< agree, don't forget TP though, for mobility.
- And who said that he's not a good teamplayer? His cronos are WAY SO GOOD for your team, the tactics are when facing big battle, time walk an opponent, then straight to cronos, this way, your allies won't get cronoed, and your enemies won't have time to react and ALL OF THEM GET STAY STILL, then you can let your AoE teammates finish them all. Yeah I know it has been written in the guide, but that's a KILLING strats, not TEAMWORKS strats, although its rather the same anyway
. That's why his best allies is AoE range heroes (since AoE melee heroes will get effected also by the chronos) such as lich / ezalor. A devastating damaged heroes can also be considerable as allies, such as rhasta/BC. Not mentioning that you also helps HIT them.
like u said in your guide, "make comments please!", so there, comments
Anyway, for the guide, i'll give it 8/10
I still consider it as a helpful guide
-Regards-
was doing a ih ar and i got thd and friend got facesless. faceless is awesome in team battles with thd you crono with the whole enemies team in the crono (3 or 4 is good to) and thd marcrophytes in the chono spere then db and ice path for the finisher.
GODLIKE mostlikey void will get kills but all heros come out with like 1/4 hp depending on stage of game or heros.
oh yea backtrack first your not going to be procing bash that much early game and not trying to kill heros early so stay alive with backtrack
Thats a very good guide....i owned ppl in the game and got a dbl kill
nice guide but to be honest only jack asses pick void
emm to be honest, i prefer burize rather than basher,fast kill,fast own
emm to be honest, i prefer burize rather than basher,fast kill,fast own
opss sory,double post
mkb is also nice although its 2k more expensive,i ususally resolve to bkb rather than basher , permastun isnt tht good ya know....
nice guide, love the makeup
Happy Fun Fun FACELESS!
Its sad wen ur godlike n ur teamates leave n its a 5on2 battle n all the enemies buy blademail. Ur killing urself.. =s happend to me... killd 3 but still have to go back to the fountain
y not go for a battlefury, armor cuirass and satanic instead of bashers n MoM? MoM kills u late game!
does basher stack?
I never thought about bashers,too buisy getting bfly early game
I first want to say that reading this strategy a while back set me up for owning with Void recently.
My build is alittle different - Void already has similar bash capability as any hero with 2 bashers, so I don't get any extra bash. MoM + Butterfly = GG. Radiance, because Void is an imba !@#!@ chaser late game, and 2 Burize, because the point is that once that Chrono is up, nothing inside of it will be once it's over...
8.5/10, because I disagree with more bash for Void (although I know it works very well too). Screenies are great, I love the trans makeup (j/k!)
One more comment - with MoM Butterfly (and no bash), I engaged Terror 3 times - only ONCE was he even able to get Sunder off, and then I bashed his full-health arse and got myself back up to 3/4 life + kill.
My build for void be treads(attack spped really imp),mom,battlefury especially wen there are lots of melee heroes around also u can farm the other equips much more easily and the mana regen part,butterfly and assault.. the other free slot would be for the roshan aegis.. i personally feel that with a butterfly ans assault u get almost perma bash. 2 bashers not required..
AHEM... Get BKB if you want to own int heroes earlier... Not really depending on chrono all tha time...
why not add a manta. they will get your nice passive skills and besides:
Chrono->mom->manta or any order....you'll surely get a kill
....and i wouldlike only one basher since you already have your own bash!!!
correztion no mom cuz i forgot thet it won't stak with manta
The best build is : tread , MOM, basher, basher, assault cuirass , butterfly.
with this build it's gg
from what i know, evasions dont stack and the stronger one will take place.
So backtrack wont stack with butterfly's evasion..
Permastun is quite good, but I was thinking about something else. My item build is:
Lvl 1-6
1. RoR
2. 2 bracer
3. Boots of Speed
3. chicken (for transport)
Lvl 6-11
1. MoM
2. RoR --> Ring of Health
3. 2 bracer
4. chicken
5. PT
11-16
1. Battle Fury
2. Sell the bracers for Vit. Booster
3. Hyperstone
4. PT
16-end of the game
1. 2 Battle Fury
2. Tarrasque
3. PT
4. Hyperstone
5. if you got more money, 1 more battle fury
I'm thinking about killing all the heroes in the chrono. So Gangbanging should be FV's fave scene, since with battle fury he can whack all the heros he wants. Battle Fury also helps you farming better. That's why I put it in the Lvl 11, so I can start saving up for items in the next level. I prefer BF to Manta since Manta is orb effect and the illusions only deal 40 % damage. Working 2 mantas will be difficult since manta doesn't provide cleaving attack.
Permastun is quite good, but I was thinking about something else. My item build is:
Lvl 1-6
1. RoR
2. 2 bracer
3. Boots of Speed
3. chicken (for transport)
Lvl 6-11
1. MoM
2. RoR --> Ring of Health
3. 2 bracer
4. chicken
5. PT
11-16
1. Battle Fury
2. Sell the bracers for Vit. Booster
3. Hyperstone
4. PT
16-end of the game
1. 2 Battle Fury
2. Tarrasque
3. PT
4. Hyperstone
5. if you got more money, 1 more battle fury
I'm thinking about killing all the heroes in the chrono. So Gangbanging should be FV's fave scene, since with battle fury he can whack all the heros he wants. Battle Fury also helps you farming better. That's why I put it in the Lvl 11, so I can start saving up for items in the next level. I prefer BF to Manta since Manta is orb effect and the illusions only deal 40 % damage. Working 2 mantas will be difficult since manta doesn't provide cleaving attack.
Sorry for the double posts. Oh I was mistaken. It wasn't bracers, but gauntlets.
how bout this build?
PowTreads
Battlefury
Battlefury
Butterfly
Buriza
MoM...
Yours is nice though...
thanks I pwnd with this tactics
Yeah..FV is one of d best late gamers in dota..I use him a lot of time n i own a lot too..Well..Ur strat is nice n gd..But usually here wat i hav at lvl 25..
1. MoM
2. PT
3. Butterfly
4. Cranium Basher
5. Butterfly
6. Battlefury
I own alot using dis..Usuali 20+ kills..
nice focus on getting backtrack..
backtrack is really good..
and also getting time walk only one time at early game..
i usually get, Threads, MoM, MKB, Butterfly for this guy, but this item build is also good,
you're a noob!!!
you should get 2 time walks first b4 hitting backtrack
so that would be bash, tw, bash,tw, then backtrack......
the item build is also bad.. you dont have to get 2 bashers.. get 1 mkb and 1 assault instead.. all the remaining items is correct anyway,......
you have to trust the 6 sec of chrono..
dont have 2 buy bashers
nice strategy dude but just hear me out try this item build first get 1.Power treads or Boots of travel(if 5vs5 u can for ex. kill 2 heroes mid then travel down and kill other:D)2.MoM (this is the perfect item for void cuz it helps u early game get fast kills and make more money)3.Basher(not twins but just buy only one)4.MKB(dude I know you will disagree but just try it once and you'll see)5.Basher(this time you'll buy another one)6.Butterfly (now your almost untouchable ull get like 55% miss and plus the speed and you dont even need a hyper
) cool strategy really.The pics are great just keep it so.. hope I hear from you soon
One thing i would add is to just buy the 2 you need for the bashers as early as possible. Voids low health can be hard to deal with early game, and the +6 str will help a lot.
good strategy(i was helped by this strategy a lot).Anyway,is there another character makeup
i dont think 2 bashers stack
but its good
The thing is that... Faceless Void already have Bash... So why get more? When you can buy Butterfly and mkb ? Dmg,agi and attack speed!
item suggestion...
power treads
2xbattle fury
MoM
Divine rapier
aegis if needed..
whacks all of the opponents inside the chrono hitting only one hero..^^
I don't think so, becuase if the team of your foes will be together to open a clash you will the target and if they do you have too low HP
ei, i know how to look at the map to see if enemies are missing.. and i always like to pair up wd dark seer for suport..^^
His build sucks, use mine.
Treads
Mom
2 bashers
Hyperstone
Bfly
I'm happy cause I own with void (25-1)
(stupid death early game almost messed me up)
But it didn't!
Cause i rock
im just reading this now and i notice its an older version so if i have time im gonna post my own void strategy but i gotta say its nice.personaly i wouldnt get the 2 cranium bashers i get mjolnir and assault currais because they have attackspeed and mjolnir has the chain lightning effect but otherwise love this guide and agree only way void dies is in permastun gank
ok srry forgot to mention how its older cuz now theres 6.48b so back then im not even sure if u could get mjolnir or assault currais but u cant buy aegis anymore and roshan is easier+ now ult is 165sec cooldown and freezes for 3/4/5 seconds but ya for the time i luv this guide and i disagree with everyone about the 2 bashers/2hyperstones/1'o'each. VOID OWNS SO MUCH ANY OF THOSE ARE FINE!!!
there is a problem with regards to ur beginning items and your skill build is such a waste.. for me, stout shield and lvl 1 backtrack will do the same as maxing it out. lvl time walk is the same as maxing it out. so, when i use FV, maxing bash 1st priority.
B3st 3v3r gu1d3
Th4nk Dud3
i dont make basher on void...it`s a waste of money... and 2 it`s a verry BAD ideea ... beacuse they don`t stack ... their chance is taken separete. make treads,mom,butterfly and cuiras...stunned all the time ... dont waste money on basher
i agree wid lost...
bashers= waste of money...
go for aspd and damage...
sugesting MoM and battlefury..
good for farming also in killing heroes especialy when 2 0r more heroes would be trapped in your chrono..^^
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Instead of one of the cranium bashers I think you could use the refresher orb so you can use the chronosphere twice(12 seconds)probably to little mana, havent tryed that yet. Anyway nice kils you got there
nice
nice
Power Tread, Mask of Madness, Butterfly , Hypersone = IMBA!
nice strat dude
i also use that build.. XD
Lol u just get a chicken and 4 tangoes instead of ring of regen.
then get mask of death
then boots of speed
then mom
then treads
then basher if u sux
then bfly
then buriza
then basher or satanic
LOL
yeh crits and bash run as different item effects (not joined together) so each bash has its own chance that has nothing rlly to do with the other bashing items/moves. just like crits hav their own effects that don't interfere with others, or so im told
galing naman ng gmit ng void
cool
Cranium is a JUNK...! After MoM go straight for buriza, duh...! Then Manta Style and Butterfly for the last touch ...
another enemy of void is panda. his evasion will stop your bashers like there were nothing. he can stop vodg one vs one. your item build is wrong.STUPID.
u think this character is good combo wit tormented soul?
you really do know how to own huh?!nice item build n strategy!!make some more..
Nice build, exactly the same as what I have.10/10
OMG these people who say that bashers suck....lol u dont know anyhing bout stacking then,i mean it's well know it STACKS just like vanguard,blade mail etc.
Anyway good strat,but it's a default one most ppl use this build it's just unstoppapble except maybe by lion ,nerubian assasin and ofc troll ,he's a better permabasher cuz his ulti gives im faster IAS ,but ur ulti can turn the tables ALWAYS
u know,i'd start out wid treads and MoM like u but the next big weapon is BATTLEFURY!!! i mean,wid MoM,this makes farming a HELL lot faster!!plus u can get triple kills if u trap a lot of heroes in ur sphere!! my final build would be MoM,treads,2 battlefury, and 2 butterfly!! trust me,it OWNs!!!!!!!!!!
the bashers give diminishing returns, so for 6k, you could go bfly which would actually increase your chance of a bash because of ias,
what the hell, whats with the 2 bashers in every guide. IF bashers are a must, geto ne. two gives 45%, one give 37% which is one in three chances, more than enough
Good but not perfect
I farm for perse first, then power treads, then MoM then battlefury. Go for Butterfly
hmm. nice guide.. but i prefer just none or one basher only then i replace it with manta... 3 void in a chronosphere seems good... but its only a suggestion.. hehe
you forget one of his best allies is Raijin the Thunderkeg It's combo Electric Chronosphere !
i give 8 !
you forget one of his best allies is Raijin the Thunderkeg It's combo Electric Chronosphere !
i give 8 !
Aww... For me, i replace the madness with an MKB... This is my Equips...
-Power Threads
-2 Cranium Bashers
-Butterfly
-MKB
-Buriza
Aww... For me, i replace the madness with an MKB... It is the uLtimate item for permabashers... 2 bashers and 1 MKB... OMG!!! Even Bradwardy and Levi can't move...
This is my Equips...
-Power Threads
-2 Cranium Bashers
-Butterfly
-MKB
-Buriza
This is my Equips...
-Power threads
-Hyperstone x2
-Eos
-Vladimir
-B. Furry
nice guide
Oh please...! Come on guys! B Fury??? What are you thinking about!!!! Faceful with 150% mana regen??????
WTH???WTF??? Please... Manta, Buterfly are the best. Skadi is okay, but cranium BF
???
like your strategy man especially the late game one he owns late game
i'd say
1 power treads
2 hyperstone
3 cramium basher
4 cramium basher
5 butterfly
6 battle fury
perma bash!!!unavoidable and due to hyperstone u can easily kill one hero in the 6 sec chrono time
i mean cranium basher
in one of the pics i saw 3 ages ....
is tht possible????
Pretty good guide, however I don't completely agree with your item guide. My item guide would go as follows. 1. Power Treads. The first main item I aim for as the extra movement speed is extremely important in escaping and is useful throughout the game. The +35% attack speed really helps early game when he still attacks relatively slowly. The second item I go for immediately after treads, is Mask of Madness. The life steal is great because you can then stay in the lane much longer without having to go heal, and Frenzy makes it much easier to kill heroes. The next item Butterfly, is by far the most important item for Void. Evasion DOES stack with Backtrack, giving him either 47.5% or 55% evasion, I'm not entirely sure how it is calculated. The +60 damage and attack speed enables Void to easily kill most heroes now and you will be able to kill Roshan by yourself and still have full health. By now you should begin to outdistance other heroes lvl wise and should be raking in the gold. I normally get Buriza next for the extra damage. After that, if the game lasts that long, I usually get another butterfly and maybe a Heart of Tarrasque for extra durability. In conclusion, MoM is indispensable and you can't go wrong by filling up your inventory with butterflies. Bashers are completely unnecessary as you attack fast enough that your 25% bash works find and you do plenty of damage. Other than your item build very good strategy. 8/10
another very bad enemy is tiny! i tried chronoing him and hi kept getting stunned coz of my MoM and hhis stun abilities when hit him.. so annoyed! lol so yea tiny is another bad hero 2 vs!
another very bad enemy is tiny! i tried chronoing him and hi kept getting stunned coz of my MoM and hhis stun abilities when hit him.. so annoyed! lol so yea tiny is another bad hero 2 vs!
)))))))))))))))))
nice scenario
I ALSO USE THE MASK OF MADNESS WHILE I HAVE MY ENEMYS IN THE CHRONOSHPERE. THATS A GOOD USE OF MASK OF MADNESS AND WITH 2 BASHERS AND BUTTERFLY AND ENEMY WONT COME OUT OF BASH LOL
Love your guide man, and your humor.
"Weird looking spotty cow thing, dead. (still has his latern)"
LOL!
Doing this strategy has helped me alot thank you
Dude, thats like totally awsome! But i recomend you cover the name of the person you killed.
For those who are having difficulties fighting Anti-melee hero like Tiny/Axe/Centaur or any character under Purist's GA.
Try the Battlefury and be a n00b. Hit the creeps and watch them take the damage from cleave. It should make them feel "WTF you n00b, you chrono and hit creeps, ha ha. What!? I died!???"
Alternatively, one word - HEX. 6 seconds is enough for ownage.
=)
this is great man,Thanks !
The way I play void depends on the enemies I face. i.e. when facing a range or int hero, I max backtrack and timewalk first. If facing a melee combatant, then I max bash and backtrack. As regards to the item build, let it be known that Mr. Void no longer need bashers. He is a natural permabasher. An additional 2 basher may seem to be costly, and does not really push a lot of damage. Mr. Void primarily relies on the items that he has to kill. He needs speed, damage, and immunity from nukers. I concur with you on the idea of using the treads and MoM. It compensates for speed. I suggest acquiring a quarterstaff. It is a cheap way of getting damage and speed at a low cost. For damage and farming, get crixalis. It is good for damage plus the crit plays an important role for extra damage and health gain for Mr. Void. To avoid getting nuked, get BKB. on the late game. Finish your crixalis into buriza. Now you only have the quarter staff. If the game stays longer, then you could acquire eaglehorn for butterfly. But I doubt if the game will stay that long. This build owns. You could try it for yourself for validation.
So the following are my item builds:
1. Treads of Agility
2. Mask of Madness
3. BkB
4. Buriza
5. Butterfly
6. Aegis
..
tsK..tsK... dUde why not get battle fury its the best item good for farming and killing purposes...
build up:
1.Power Threads
2.Battle fury
3.MoM
4.Butterfly
5.Buriza
6. depends on your opponent...
thats how it goes!! 2 bashers is good!! but hes already a permabash no need for bashers.. suggest max your damage and kill as much as u can!!
6/10
wow!! this is a good build... u can change ur basher to mkb instead more damage more pain!!!
thx for this amazing help for us, real n00bs...
i just have finish my game with faceless,and was confuse because i don't what aare the items for him,i just bought "cranium3x,threads,hyperstone and butter",,for the mid game i bought MOM,,but i sold it to buy hyperstone.is it okay?,,maybe 3xcrans is not quietly needed,,what good item should i buy to replace one of the cran?and one more thing,i think tah feceless just have a cheap lifepoints,do i have to buy an item to make his life bolder?
BTW,,i like your strat man! 8,5/10!
REply please!haha
i will try
something cool: butterfly's evasion does in fact stack with void's backtrack. so 55% to not take physical damage lol
@256 - They stack but at a diminishing rate of chance of 47.5% instead of 55%.
first of all..
how can a Faceless Void farm without a Battle fury(BF)..
i've used FV several times already..
everytime i use it..
i always own..
my item build up:
battle fury..
power treads..
maelstorm to mjolnir..
crystalis..
those items are in order..
first off..
after FV will get an BF he wouldnt have to worry about farming..
and after FV will get a mjolnir he doesnt have to worry in attackspeed/damage..
hope youll reply..
oh..
one more thing..
what does GG mean?
GG means good game...To me ta item build 4 this guide is pretty good if ur rich
i would rather go 4 treads mom hyperston then buriza an then assult curiass.But i never go with basher since its expensive an u pretty much dont need it since u attack so dam fast wit hyper an mom.And if the game drags on to long get butterfly an battlefury.Btw wen u get treads mom an hyper its usualy gg already
this hero can pawn a permastun-built troll,right?what r the best late game items to get and own troll???
bloodgang:
hy would you get both BF and Maelstrom, both of thoose is farming items. Bsides Maelstrom is orb, which rules out the MoM which is really needed to pwn inside chronosphere. And since the MoM is rather cheap you can easyli get both MoM and Butter which boost your ASPD approx the same as Mjollnir. Plus


